I got one with spirit of claw and spirit of inmost light, it just gets constant needle refresh and I use the lightning slide aspect. I finally broke the chains of being a solo player ⛓️💥
Regular Necrotic Grips has an increasing damage poison that the bond doesnt have, so not exactly the same. Build works either way though. Tried it w my roll of Necrotic and Star Eaters. Pretty juiced.
So would you trade necrotic grip only for a class item with stareater and necro or is there something else viable? I dont want to miss the extra dmg from the original Exotic for something less
It does not work exactly the same. Necrotic grips add a scaling poison that increases the longer it ticks. Which is what makes them OP. The spirit of the necrotic does not add the scaling damage to the best of my knowledge and testing. With this build your base poison dealt from thorn, and your poison from melee should be exactly the same. Essentially using one of them with zero affect. I tried this out as necro + star eater was one of the first ones I got to drop. Basically, you can run whatever you're running you just don't have to use thorn if you don't want to. I run this exact build , but instead I use electric surge instead of helion. 3 Electric surges that poison everything they jolt. It clears rooms and is so much fun to play.
7:24 i would avoid triple same armor mods in many cases since there are heavy diminishing returns. you get +10% / +3% / +2% meele back respectively on orb pickup. maybe HP on orb pickup instead.
Try out Necrochasm, its precision explosion proccs necrotics perk also after being hit by the explosion bodyshots procc Necrochasms cursed thrall. It shredds entire rooms after its catalyst rework, i can assure you its satisfying XD
i have a variant of this build with exo: necro and swarmers, weavers call and feed the void. i like it because it spawns threadlings. it unravels and spawns more tangles.
Spirit of Synthoceps should be another good option right? It seemed like extra charges was the main goal, but I'd think extra melee damage (I presume with the Song of Flame melee too) should be pretty good
Agreed. I run a build similar to the one in the video, but with Nova Bomb, Vortex Grenades and Facet of Dominance with void specific artifact perks as well as Necrocasm. The cursed thrall explosion usually pops whatever tangles I have on the field, having threadlings scouring about laying waste to any stragglers not consumed in the already mindless add clear provided by the rest of the build.
Necrotic grip has the damage increase on the poison ticks, so its definitely not the same as on the bond. In PvE, the damage of Poison ramps up every tick with the damage increases compounding together: • 2nd-14th ticks each deal 3.5585 more damage compared to the one before • 15th tick deals 9.705 more damage than the 14th • 16th-19th ticks each deal 14.234 more damage than the one before This is an insane amount of damage difference on the poison imo. Non the less, not a bad build though
Yooo same it combines two strand builds into one. I use threadling grenades and devour gets them back so fast and I'm also spreading poison and unravel which create threadlings cause tangles. Its insane for crowd control.
I got necrotic plus syntho, it’s hard to tell if the surrounded damage stacks on spread because everything just dies so quickly but for just the normal arcane needles I’m hitting around 80/100k
@@bradshaw1996 sry not sure anymore, kinda stopped playing after act 1 ended, probs not coming back, I’ve still got it stored but I just ended up using getaway artists because they are so easy to build. Unless they have been nerfed in which case another reason why I won’t come back.
The extra arcane needle doesn't make too much difference, I'd rate Starfire higher as radiant now counts as "empowered" and with facet of Dawn+Radiant Orbs, you're going to have it up all the time. This and vortex grenade+facet of dominance works so much better with this season's artifact because you'll be adding weaken & overshield to the mix and recharging your abilities with "Shieldcrush"
Unfortunately not true, empowered is a well or empowering rift. This imo renders starfire useless as you cant use well with prismatic and standing in a emp rift on the field is about as silly as using a glaive
I think it’s a good way to promote the idea of those millions of players and (whoever watches this vid) to maybe go look for one. It’s not easy of course but things this cool come with some work.
Necro and Syntho is the roll i have, and i recommend using lightning surge, because it increases the damage and spreads the poison
“With new prismatic we can’t suspend enemies” *Laughs in Mataiodoxia*
I got one with spirit of claw and spirit of inmost light, it just gets constant needle refresh and I use the lightning slide aspect. I finally broke the chains of being a solo player ⛓️💥
Regular Necrotic Grips has an increasing damage poison that the bond doesnt have, so not exactly the same. Build works either way though. Tried it w my roll of Necrotic and Star Eaters. Pretty juiced.
With that the trade off is def worth on nova bomb, makes a more viable dps warlock
@@altzard6170 needlestorm isnt far behind
So would you trade necrotic grip only for a class item with stareater and necro or is there something else viable? I dont want to miss the extra dmg from the original Exotic for something less
@Xeno037 I think the extra damage from star eaters is worth the loss of increasing poison tick damage so I will probably keep using the class item.
Came to the comments cause I was thinking the same thing, just run regular necrotics, the damage and overall experience will be way better.
Spirit of Star eater on the second column with song of flame is incredible
Yep got that with necrotic
@@AzrealJlucky man. that’s the exact roll I’m looking for
I have this exact roll and didn't bother to think about it. Might try Thorn or Osteo... even though I don't use either
@@xlightlessx7778 thorn surprisingly feels good however guns like graviton especially with nezaracs sin is fucking mental
just got my spirit of necrotic and spirit of the swarm, this thing SLAPS.
It does not work exactly the same. Necrotic grips add a scaling poison that increases the longer it ticks. Which is what makes them OP.
The spirit of the necrotic does not add the scaling damage to the best of my knowledge and testing. With this build your base poison dealt from thorn, and your poison from melee should be exactly the same. Essentially using one of them with zero affect.
I tried this out as necro + star eater was one of the first ones I got to drop. Basically, you can run whatever you're running you just don't have to use thorn if you don't want to.
I run this exact build , but instead I use electric surge instead of helion. 3 Electric surges that poison everything they jolt. It clears rooms and is so much fun to play.
7:24 i would avoid triple same armor mods in many cases since there are heavy diminishing returns.
you get +10% / +3% / +2% meele back respectively on orb pickup. maybe HP on orb pickup instead.
Try out Necrochasm, its precision explosion proccs necrotics perk also after being hit by the explosion bodyshots procc Necrochasms cursed thrall. It shredds entire rooms after its catalyst rework, i can assure you its satisfying XD
Good call! will definitely try it
i have a variant of this build with exo: necro and swarmers, weavers call and feed the void. i like it because it spawns threadlings. it unravels and spawns more tangles.
ive got this one aswell! mind dropping the dim link so i can take a look at it?
Swarm only makes threadlings from destroying tangles off the exotic trait for the bond not unravel
@@dzehliono8320 yes i know
@@dzehliono8320 u should read weavers call tho :D
Spirit of Synthoceps should be another good option right? It seemed like extra charges was the main goal, but I'd think extra melee damage (I presume with the Song of Flame melee too) should be pretty good
Hope so, as that is the roll I had drop last night!
I got necrotic/swarmers roll which synergizes better than I expected
Agreed. I run a build similar to the one in the video, but with Nova Bomb, Vortex Grenades and Facet of Dominance with void specific artifact perks as well as Necrocasm. The cursed thrall explosion usually pops whatever tangles I have on the field, having threadlings scouring about laying waste to any stragglers not consumed in the already mindless add clear provided by the rest of the build.
I wished with prismatic I had the one strand aspect where I can absorb my grenade. The builds I could have done with this.
Necrotic grip has the damage increase on the poison ticks, so its definitely not the same as on the bond.
In PvE, the damage of Poison ramps up every tick with the damage increases compounding together:
• 2nd-14th ticks each deal 3.5585 more damage compared to the one before
• 15th tick deals 9.705 more damage than the 14th
• 16th-19th ticks each deal 14.234 more damage than the one before
This is an insane amount of damage difference on the poison imo. Non the less, not a bad build though
This strand build was my favorite and I just got the exact bond so gonna have fun.
swapping helion for the arc chain lighting aspect is my go too
Ive been a little different with how i set up my warlock.
I set up a killer suspend build on Prismatic Warlock.
I personally got my hands into a Necrotic/Swarmers roll, I'm loving it so far
Yooo same it combines two strand builds into one. I use threadling grenades and devour gets them back so fast and I'm also spreading poison and unravel which create threadlings cause tangles. Its insane for crowd control.
I got necrotic plus syntho, it’s hard to tell if the surrounded damage stacks on spread because everything just dies so quickly but for just the normal arcane needles I’m hitting around 80/100k
I want that combo too, but for a lightning surge melee build.
Do you use the same mods & fragments in this video, just got that roll today
@@bradshaw1996 sry not sure anymore, kinda stopped playing after act 1 ended, probs not coming back, I’ve still got it stored but I just ended up using getaway artists because they are so easy to build. Unless they have been nerfed in which case another reason why I won’t come back.
@@thapotatonater827 yes they nerfed it, the arc soul does not restore grenade energy on hit anymore.
1 view in 26 seconds bro didn't fall off
The og is the boss killer but the class one is great for just mauling the room
I got the necrotic and star eater roll for my second drop. Lucky af lol.
What kinda build u use then?
Not sure is 33% more melee charges is worth it. So many better options.
bungie sitting back with their finger on the nerf button
Isnt the max for arcane needle always 3
Nope, look at the footage. I have 3 charges and then the 1 charged. Equals 4 melee’s its pretty cool
Claws of ahamkara do work with arcane needle, though for a long time I also thought they didn't
does the necrotic on bond give ae bonus on weapons of sorrow
Yes
The extra arcane needle doesn't make too much difference, I'd rate Starfire higher as radiant now counts as "empowered" and with facet of Dawn+Radiant Orbs, you're going to have it up all the time. This and vortex grenade+facet of dominance works so much better with this season's artifact because you'll be adding weaken & overshield to the mix and recharging your abilities with "Shieldcrush"
Radiant counts as empowered??? I have the necrotic / star fire roll too
Really I didn't see anything about it. Are you sure.
But no?? It's only the rift
Unfortunately not true, empowered is a well or empowering rift. This imo renders starfire useless as you cant use well with prismatic and standing in a emp rift on the field is about as silly as using a glaive
It'd be so cool if that was true, looking to farm it this weekend and would love for it to be changed to include radiant and friends
What about the millions of players who don’t have exotic class items!
I think it’s a good way to promote the idea of those millions of players and (whoever watches this vid) to maybe go look for one. It’s not easy of course but things this cool come with some work.
This add clear would be great for hunters
This is literally only available on Warlock what are you talking about
I have with syntho but it doesn’t stack but it does kill 5 on a flag with one lightning strike 😂
Syntho is better on literally every aspect... dmg, output, rotation, downtime etc
Sucks i don't have any luck
I got lucky with this roll as my first lol
Lets go!
🔥🔥🔥💗🔥 have it
lmao i got this roll and deleted it