PLARIUM MUST ACT!! The Biggest Issue In Raid: Shadow Legends
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PLARIUM MUST ACT!! The Biggest Issue In Raid: Shadow Legends - Ігри
I just watched the teaser vid for Siege, and this may be it for me. I am the clan leader for a top 250 clan, and we are competitive in Hydra Clash & CVC. I honestly cannot handle another big time sink in this game, and I may just call it quits entirely if they don't fix the time issue immediately.
My clan is much smaller. We have only this week gotten a 1st in hydra and only this month routinely cleared UNM CB. These are notes of progress. I feel like we've finally gotten the hang of algebra and we are being asked to write a thesis on quantum mechanics with no study and with less than a week's notice. Even at this they are talking about multiple strongholds in the future. Nobody asked for this. Nobody has time for this. Nobody knows how to manage this with no tools or people with inside understanding of how this will work.
Agree top 500 clan it’s already causing issues in my clan. We need like 3 days prep and then 3 days of time to fight then a day of rewards.
relax people, you dont have to play the mode if you don't want to, i don't understand why people are mad about getting more rewards when you as a fully grown adult should be able to manage your time and priorities within the game
Bye 😊!!
@@Ceezy_yt You're not getting it. They are managing their time by saying this is likely why they will drop the game.
As for not playing this content if they don't want to, that might not be their decision to make if they wish to remain in a clan that requires them to invest time into this content.
What they're essentially saying is they are not likely to bother joining another clan that competes at a lower level when it would be more advantageous for them to drop the game all together.
The potential problem for Plarium will be determined by how many people agree with them, and do likewise.
This content is like placing a whole new game inside an already well established game, and adding prizes to it that will determine what level you will be able to compete at. As the game gets more involved and time intensive, the influx of new players, which up to this point have been able to make up for players that leave the game, will eventually begin to ebb.
Eventually the constant additions will hit a critical mass that are going to make the game less appealing to people. They can't add stuff every month forever and expect to maintain the popularity that they've enjoyed so far.
That's the issue that content creators are starting to address in their videos about this.
Plarium is great at adding new content. They do it every month. They give very little consideration to streamlining their content to make up for the constant additions.
insta battle everywhere is a must!
You know they’d make it fail half the time.. other games I play let up just spend the energy/key after a win for another win
Honestly, I’d love having Insta battles. But if we’re being real, it would kill one of the main components of this game. The whole reason people are even motivated to go for better champions is to unlock higher levels of content and to complete other content quicker. For example, seer for dungeon runs, poison explosions, gnut for speed running teams. If we make Insta battle a thing, it would kill the integrity of these op champions. Why would anyone care about a seer getting runs done quickly, when you could just use a slow 10 minute team, but Insta battle would make it instant anyway. I’m wondering how we can incorporate something similar to Insta battles without undermining one of the key parts of raid.
@@peanutbutter4166 but if you don’t have any of those champs you either need to drop a few floors or take the fails and loss of energy.. resulting in less points and resources
@@MikeB-nn4nh I get that too. But my point is excluding the op champions, imagine it takes you to do ig level 20 in 8 minutes because your team doesn’t have op champions and is slow and inefficient but 100% reliable. Then there’s someone who has op champs and can get it done in 50 seconds. Insta battle would make both teams equivalent which I don’t think is a good way to keep players interested and motivated towards improving their teams with better champions.
@@peanutbutter4166 insta battle would be same as hydra, chances of failed run are tyhe same because game just speeds up in background.
Biggest problem with tag team arena is that the devs listen to the CCs who said we needed more battles when it came out. They should double the rewards and cut the number of battles in half. Per refill and requirements per day.
We need proper chat inside game, not everyone use discord and other stuff.
True. I've never used Discord and have no plans to ever do so
no this is wrong waste of time and resources
YES = AGREE
I mean, we have chat but 85% of every single chat room is filled with bots trying to scam people..
@@Razer5542 Yes. It's out of control
The biggest concern should be if they are going to sell the items need to improve your base. If that happens, it will be dead on arrival.
of course they are, it's plarium
oyea... i wont even outrage, F that. let the krakens have whatevers in there, im not interested at this point
@@byronsmith3152 I don't think they will, that will be plain dumb haha
That's the key - looks way to complex, way to much time, clans are already stressed by CVC and Hydra, you add this, and people might be heading to a new game
this looks like a pain in the ass, if the rewards arent easy to get i'll probably stop playing.
Our clan died yesterday and I left the game due to this
The problem is they don't respect us, or our time they defile such a great game with beautiful art and cool mechanics.
So just like every other business ever? I think you have business and charity confused.
@@sunnydlite-t8b Im a whale idiot I support the business, but the fact remains its a time dump, wth does that have to do with my comment
@@sunnydlite-t8b furthermore it would be in a business best interest to not burnout or make their player base feel not appreciated , so learn context moron.
Yes background auto battles that run at a faster speed would be amazing already a feature in Infinate Magicraid. They also have a raid feature that lets you do your faction key in a second.
Need ability to have officer chat in game. This game already takes way to much time and as a guild leader this will just add to the burden.
YES
@ibu "...way to [too] much..."
Leaders need more control and knowledge to make this work. They also need more time than it's possible to give us to manage it if we have the control. Time is why I'm planning on dropping Plarium's Sparta and Stormfall soon. I'm my clan's leader and second strongest player and I don't have time to focus on this and have any balance in my life. No one asked for this game to become so complicated.
Simple solution for hydra make the same heads that start stay put the whole time. when they are decapitated whatever debuffs they had while decapitated when they come back they keep those debuffs and allow us to set each champs ai to target certain heads now you have a full auto friendly game mode
Yes please and let use save teams for each rotation so once you get it all dialed in you can come in like clan boss and hit auto battle and be done.
They need to update auto team set-up. For advanced use for example if champ has 50% or more heath don't heal, target champ with least buffs/most, target enemy leader only/ #2,3,4 ECT. Also allow us to have more teams
I run 2 different clans and I've already told everyone that it's their choice whether they want to do this or not. I don't care. No one will be booted for not participating. I might not even do it myself if it doesn't interest me.
I agree with that the game turns out like full time job i even slowed down on dayli missions i havent done all of them in 3-4 days and that 5 battles tag arena battles a day is brain hurt today i just forgot i even have to play the game bcs i get annoyed doing the same missions over and they take 2 hours a day
@zki "...dayli [daily] missions..."
Feel like daily missions is the smallest problem. I have them usually all done in 15-20 min. Arena takes a ton agree on that, doom tower, sintranos are probably the longest modes right now. And the amount of grinding on dungeons or training is insane.
@@Lawliet734Dos the tiepo boder u?
Raid is becoming a REAL MMO = you ever play a real MMO ? like WOW? time investment required to succeed ....otherwise go play CandyCrush.....just saying
@@priestguardian2587 dont talk when u dont know i have 3 years in raid
i am the only deputy in my clan and we are almost a full one
my leader said that this might start drama in the community and i agree with him
The game is spreading out to much towards group and guild play and not focusing on single player as much . Rewards should be able to be obtained from single player game just like what you would get in guild play .
You are exactly right! I've been clan leader of a level14 clan for a couple months as a fill-in for someone who didn't have time. I played Plarium's "Stormfall" and "Sparta" for 10 years, but am only nominally involved there because its more about pressing buttons for hours than anything enjoyable. This "upgrade" is totally unmanageable given I don't have access to what my players have available to them, we don't play on the same continent, and we don't have the ability to message each other in a meaningful way. The tools Plarium would have to give us to make this work don't exist. The fact that league resources needed for this don't seem to be restricted to a clan leader or his officers so if someone in my Polish and English speaking group uses them incorrectly I might have to cut good people that don't understand. Since this is a totally new dynamic I don't know who to trust or competency levels for this either. NOTHING ABOUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE FUN! If we falter out of the gates we could be screwed long-term repairing things instead of building up things. I work 3 twelve hour days a week IRL and if this drops during my work days I won't be able to do damage control either. Plarium needs to launch a new game rather than make such fundamental changes in what this game has always been about. It's primarily a private game of personal empire building where and when we have time.
"Hopefully the time issue is something Plarium has in the back of their mind". It must be very deep in the back of their mind, because people have been asking for time reduction improvements since before hydra was introduced, and not that much has changed in regards to time spent in game. They continue to add new game modes, but don't make any counters to the time spent they just add to the game. They don't need background dungeons, they just need to give auto completes for those.
1.Make tagteam arena a weekly quest fpr like 10 games
2. Cut hydra to rven 500 or even 300 turns
3. Make FW auto like CB as soon as you finished stage 21. Further make it into only 1 fight
4. 3 arena fight a day and maybe enable us to tick boxes on the 10 games that we can choice from to auto all those fights.
5. Remove hydra quest from daily
6. Let us sell gear direct from forge and from mailbox
i would like an EASY Mode for Sintranos.99% in our clan cannot even beat the normal stage, I made it to the 3rd key on hard this rotation for the 1st time ever (and i cannot find a team to even beat normal stage amius this rotation). I'm playing almost 3y now and got a good roster of champions...
and don't get me started on TTA - this is the most bullshit thing. I would not do it if not for the stupid Ramantu missions
We need:
1. Instant battles in the following areas:
a. Iron Twins stages that have been beaten
b. Potion Keep stages that have been beaten
c. Minotaur stages that have been beaten
d. Faction Crypts that have been 3 starred
e. Doom Tower bosses after the first successful run
2. More stages in the following areas:
a. Iron Twins stages 16-25
b. Potion Keep stages 21-25 with no Brew/Mystery Shard drops because that's stupid
c. Minotaur stages 16-25
d. Not sure if we're ready for hard Sand Devil/Phantom Shogun
e. I personally wouldn't mind if they increased the hard dungeon stages even though I can't beat Ice Golem 10 or FK 10 with no chances to have 5 star gear drops or rare gear drops
f. I'd love to see hard Faction Wars with a mythical as the final reward
3. Permanent super raids in the following areas:
a. Campaign
b. Iron Twins
c. Potion Keeps
d. Also increase the super raid from 2x resource investment to 3x or more.
4. Improvements to the various in game markets. These could all be combined into one market with different tabs.
a. Bastion > Market
a1. Market needs more than crap gear. Once I reach a certain level, I shouldn't be offered 3 star gear.
a2. Maybe have recent fragment summon champ fragments in there limited quantity per month.
b. Bastion > Guardian Ring > Token Trader
b1. Token Trader needs to rotate or have the ability to be refreshed.
b2. We can't unbind epics for Life Tokens.
b3. Token Trader needs to have epic champions as well.
c. Bastion > Altar of Souls > Mystic Market
d. Bastion > Altar of Souls > Soul Merchant
d1. Split Soul prices need to be reduced.
e. Clan > Clan Shop
f. Battle > Arena > Tag Team Arena > Bazaar
f1. Bazaar shouldn't be gated based on time or tier. If I have 120,000 Gold Bars, let me purchase 4 Sacred Shards. Might actually make me want to play the game mode.
5. Improvements to the gem mine. Let us upgrade it a bit more. Say maybe so it produces 25 gems/day. This amounts to 175 gems/week so people can reasonably double up Iron Twins on Sundays.
6. The 3x speed that we saw back when Iron Twins was being previewed.
a. Crank this number up to 10x for TTA. Like you said Scratch.
7. Regular champion buffs/rebalancing (I'm mad because I pulled Jingwon)
a. At least 1/month and if it they want to buff 8 champs, I'll wait 8 months.
8. Player limits in TTA are stupid. Remove them or make them based on the percentage of players. If they want a hard cap on the number of players in the highest tier, that's fine. But as it stands, It's hard to get to silver II sometimes without accidentally falling back into bronze IV.
9. Regarding mythicals
a. Altar of Souls wishlist for mythical souls
b. Faction Guardians for mythicals
c. More ways to acquire Primal Shards and/or Primal Quartz
c1. Primal Quartz could be added to the pool in the Bastion Market similar to how Ancient Shards pop up.
10. Wishful thinking:
a. Rare Empowerment
b. Removal of 5 star gear drops from the hardest content in the game
b1. Nightmare Hydra top chest can drop 5 star gear
b2. Hard Cursed City Amius can drop 5 star gear
c. Iron Twins rewards need to be reworked such that Immortal/Eternal Soul Essence is an additional drop similar to how Chaos Dust is an additional drop in Sand Devil.
11. Anything I missed?
You're basically asking Plarium to cut their profits in half
@@mncedisi2933 The only things here that would meaningfully affect their profit margins is the Gem Mine upgrades, more Primal Quartz acquisition, maybe Iron Twins drop rework, Split Soul prices, and not time gating the Bazaar.
Instant battles, bigger super raids, and more stages shouldn't affect their bottom line.
I'm a clan leader, and I've been leaving feedback to plarium about this. The game takes up too much time, and now we're going to have another huge content that will take even more time. I'm probably just going to quit. The game already takes up way more time than I want to spend.
Welcome to Live service MMOs...Have you ever played World of Warcraft or and real MMO ? Raid is crossing into that and all require a time sink to succeed.. If you still want a Casual game mode = there are a lot of want to be Raid games out there that will require less time......just pointing out the obvious
I expect this to be for farming cash & time from vet players. Plarium is in a crunch to maximize funds from their existing player base. As we learned from the quarterly financial report & because Aristocrat are looking to sell Plarium. They have also proven over & over that they don't know how to make a good matching system.
The chat system needs all their attention. Now.
Currently on the line of quitting the game for now i'm just doing doom tower and twins and that's it, no farming no leveling no gearing no arena no daily. From when i started played Wor to now where i almost achieved everything i'm more than happy to open game cause i know i can get all the daily stuff in 30min cause there we have the possibility to run 2 battles at the same time 1 in the background and one you have to wacth and it save a lot of time. Sadly Plarium can't see that releasing more and more stuff instead of working and enchant the content we already got it's making the game more and more sad and annoying
It's hard enough as an average player to meet requirements in my clan now i got this rubbish to deal with, i Hate PvP in general now its going to affect my clan standing
Great suggestions. I'd also like to see a multi battle creature in arena/tag arena allowing us to run the entire page of opponents.
I blame the complaints about not having much end game players complains before about not being competitive enough it is overwhelming on time already
@ *Scratch, hi, i think so. I have the same opinion, plarium should remake and change raid, so that we could minimize the normal raid window, in order to start playing the siege mode!*
*otherwise, you(every player in the world) will never be able to reach any levels, or make progress, because you must choose what to play!*
*Raid with cb, hydra, dungeons, or the new siege mode!*
*It could take years, to make nameable progress in the siege mode!*
*You are right, Scratch, plarium should change that, to be able to play both modes, otherwise the raid community will splitted and seperated into 2 classes or groups. The one group are the players who play only siege, and invest their time only there, and the other group will be the players, who play dungeons, cb, hydra, who are farming champs and artifacts! But raid, and its community should be one, only one, the community, not 2 different!*
It hasn't even started yet and I'm overwhelmed. If plarium thinks this a good idea they should start taking the short bus to work!!!!! I'm so irritated 😡
In a few games of the past, one of my reasons for leaving was because my clan was demanding participation. I gave it a few weeks, hated it, found another game without set times and participation demands. Could have 5 battles every day and 7 days a week. Could not take any days off. I would scream about the f*** game was NOT my job! I gave the war battles a chance. I hated it. Left. Wound up here a few games later. I am proud to say that those companies went under as most players did what I did. At one point in this game, I went about 1 1/2 years without playing in the arena. I still do not like anything involving arena. I am in normal arena cat 5, rarely try to win tag team - 5 a day by entering tag team arena and stop battling immediately. I exit it and take my 3 losses. I resent being forced to play arena every day. but I like the bonuses. So, I do whatever Im forced to do daily. My attitude comes from Evil Willow in Buffy Vampire Slayer, “ BORED NOW!”
But I really enjoy other parts of the game.
and fight had to war in 3 battles
to have more qol, instant battle for fw, minatour, potion keeps, cb (being it 1 key or 2 keys, not just restricted to 1key, because many ppl cant do 1 key still), or even hydra, with these instant battles, it will save us way much time daily to do them, fw is taking me like 4-8 mins per run depends on which factions it is. unm cb is taking me 20mins per key for 2 keys, and hydra is taking me 1hr+- per key too. these r crazy time spending, hence, sometimes i just ignore the missions when lacking of time
i agree, i dont do everything anymore there is to much & i wont be putting anymore time into this game
I think farming live arena would be better and faster if we adjusted the loss from 3 to 2 instead in gold and make the bots not take the whole entire clock to make a single move.
I can’t do more time for this game?!? This Clan Siege is a game by itself .
They should fix the game first
YES make the runs in the background while we are free to do other things in the game. TIME, TIME!!!! SAVE ME TIME PLEASE!!
A lot of players will leave and there's nothing that can be done to fix that. They don't have the time.
The moment it becomes apparent that casual players aren't going to invest the needed effort into this, and clan leaders start throwing them out of their clans, they'll drop the game out of discouragement.
Plarium is great at adding to the game. They're awful at streamlining the game.
Also the mounting complexity of the game will discourage new players from getting invested.
I think this whole thing was a rush job. It's like putting a whole different game inside an already well established game and then going, "Okay, guys. Your level of progression is now determined heavily by how you do in this new subgame content. Good luck, oh, and btw, don't forget to do your hydra and regular clan boss keys!"
They need quick battles like demon lord for different areas depending on how fast your best time is for said stage.
Anything with a key needs to change, faction wars, doom tower, iron twins, etc.
I will run it every day, let me run it once, use all keys and be done.
Really tired of running the same crap. It's different with dungeons, I get it.
Anything with keys, one run, use all keys.
It looks really neat, I just see it causing even more problems among clans, now you gotta perform well in both hydra clash & pvp in order to stay in decent clan on top of the time issue. I feel it might push casual and newer players away from clans.
my biggest issue is the waiting, so much time waiting for this and that. if when i have time, and i do everything i look and oh i have to wait 6 hours for dungeon divers which i could do now or knock some out now, but i wont be home in 6 hours, ill be at work so i cant touch it til tonight.
the constant waiting for events and such is whats really killing me, theres nothing i dislike more than getting a 500 energy from daily login or DT or whatever it may be and theres no events to use it on,. and i cant farm some sand devil because ill need it for yet another fusion dungeon divers or one of the million champ trainings.
as im typing this im thinking, if i have to watch these same 5 people spend 3 minutse in this ice golem hard run one more time i may go insane. i get it, i dont need to see it anymore. it goes very similar every time. i would literally put them on auto at this point and sit in the main screen so i dont have to see it or think about it.
also live arena, the times for live arena suck for me. why do they not rotate? maybe shift them an hour or two forward every now and again. i dont want to get home from work and think 'oh no i HAVE TO do my live arena, or whatever, i'd rather not do it. as it is, it's do my hour or so's worth of dailies then whatever monotonous thing i have to do i've done every day a million times already.
i already went through the effort to make these teams work, watching them work the first 3 times was enough. thank you, the following few thousand have gotten very draining. very, very draining.
They could do that lvl 100 can do 10x runs on dungeons and instants in potionkeeps and all campaign battles. Also auto completes on doomtowers once completed on the same rotation etc. Just those meaningless parts where fast teams arent built. Maybe even arenas could be instant like normal and 3v3
RNG is even taking several tries
Great idea for backgound dungeons and tta. Not much different from instant dungeons.
They have done some recent things to lower the time requirement in the game.
- They made the bosses in 3 tough dungeons easier. So less time to kill them. Did not really help my account save time, but it did help many people save some time.
- They gave us Wixwell, allowing people to 1 key all the CB stages (more than doubling most CB damage). This gave me 30-45 minutes per day. Even for end game accounts, this helped clans more easily take down the CB without having to babysit the stages to ensure they were taken down at the end of the day.
But they need to do more. The Clan Wars does look to be a lot of work. Hero Wars had a similar setup with a lot of time required by the leaders.
Would help if they put out an easy to acquire hound for Shy'ek that allows you to easily put together an auto hydra team.
Recruiting in this game sucks ass it in itself is burning then adding this, and cvc, and hydra cool to have stuff for clans to do but stuff like this is also toxic to clans
Good video skratch, It shows you are still in touch with the game.never thought of the minimize,very good idea.
Fabulous video Skratch im having to ditch fusions to cope with the game (close to 100 lego and opening 8cb chest daily its a no brainer unless all cc say S TIER) its the clicking grind (68yrs) that is making it so tough even with Rsl Helper Instant battles and being able to minimize runs to even up grade gear and champs would me huge a must in my mind.
Yeah it's a job that doesn't pay you can cost you money take up a lot of your time and it's supposed to be fun😢
So what is your conclusion? Don't do it!
There should also be an option to opt out if your clan is not ready to do siege.
Hey Skratch nice content as always. Keep it up!
I already find myself in a lack of time on the game. And i'm sure this new game mode will not help to it.
I hope you read this comment as i put quite some time into this. And i'm sure alot of members in the community will agree with me on these tips.
But yeah heres some of my tips to make the game more efficiently and less time consuming.
to save up time: Give faction wars an auto complete button:
If you beat a stage without losing a single champion '3stars a stage' that should unlock the stage auto completion.
Auto completion: to instantly complete these battle without having to watch it go all over every single time.
Thats a big time cost for me completing every stage for 10-15 minute runs for example. take the same idea as recently applied in clanboss and implement it here.
Clanboss should even have auto run battle if you didnt complete the clanboss at the max key.
Alot of people have 2 key teams, or are still working on getting to this 1key team.
Me for example i have a clanboss team hitting like 60million damage on ultranightmare clanboss.
Working to get it to 1key still. It takes 50 minutes for this one run to end. and another 50 for my second run.
While i know for sure it will always hit 2 key this is almost 2 hours just to run clanboss whilst i'm unable to do anything else.
Why make it so people like me have to spend a long time while its just simple to put 'auto run battle button'
if we lose damage on it so be it. But give us the option to auto run/auto complete the battle. By ticking on 'auto run'
Can also add this to Hydra. Ofcourse Hydra is rng and it takes a long time and most likely should be ran manual. But currently i think it just takes too much time.
Doomtower: if you completed a boss once make it so you can auto complete the boss without taking more time then needed since you proved you can beat it once. You surely can do it again.
For example i run bommal at 20 minutes runs with lady annabelle. I'm certain the team works but having to do battles that lasts this long is just a pain really.
I'd run bommal 5 times whilst i'm asleep in the background on my phone. But this is 100minutes running bommal.
If you completed all rooms of normal doomtower/hard doomtower make it so you can just press auto complete stages daily or something since you proved you can do it.
Theres more rotations yes so make people complete all the rotations and then unlock it or anything like that. 'doomtower rooms take up to 10-20 minutes a room for me sometimes. 'running on auto' currently on hardmode doomtower.
But thats just super long and makes me wanna give up on the game mode or run lower stages not pushing up higher. Like earlier mentioned 'auto play battle' if your team can make it through just finish the battle directly. Dnt take 20 minutes just to preview an auto runned battle.
I spend like 3 hours in game actively playing and i have my laptop running over 6 hours in the background if not more just to complete everything every day.
Thats like a job.
I wish there was something to shorten up the daily activities to the point where you are finished with daily stuff within half an houre. And can enjoy the rest of the game in stages you want to be playing.
Currently i'm not even running live arena because i dnt find the time to do any of those battles because of all the other things to do.
At this moment its starting to feel more like 'i have to do this' more then 'i want to do this'. And thats not what a game should feel like.
I really still love the game but theres alot of these changes that could make the game feel alot more enjoyable.
I hope plarium reads this and decides to implement some of these ideas into the game.
From what I've seen in the pre-view video of siege mode, it is going to be three things, a whale and kraken fest, extremely toxic, and pretty difficult to play. I will probably not participate in the game mode, and I think this might wreck clans.
Hydra should go to 500 total turns. Get that shit over with! Lower tag team coins but double the rewards!
Plarian needs to beef up our options for team presets. We cannot succesfully maximize dmg when using auto battle because the team preset is very LIMITED. Expand the preset commands will ultimately save time and allow players to get the same score as if they are manually doing CB/dungeons. Solves many issues involving time.
I think they´ve done a great job on this. I agree though that it looks like it´s going to take a lot of time in a game that´s already a lot to keep track of. Smart to take some pointers from Clash of Clans that´s a hugely popular game even 12 years after it´s release. I still play it daily, to be honest.
We need auto skip battle features, at least for faction war and doom tower.
besides the top clans in raid i doubt the majority of clans that are more casual will take part in this new game mod like my clan for example unfortanly it always come back to time as you put it which i dont have time to be hours upon hours on raid to get everything done once raid also begin to sell the new currencies for the new game mode in shop i bet even more clans wont participate or even leave the game...your content creators or ppl who got always time to play raid can get things done in a decent time but for us everyday normal joe who got 9 to 5 jobs family ect this grind and complexcity in raid is going overboared and to far
I legit bought a PS5 and now have very little desire to play the game outside of clan boss
there looks like each clan will have to field 60 or 90 teams, each person probably will only be able to do 2 or 3... and you can probably only use each hero once... so, there will be much strategy in which clan members get assigned to where...
If you play this to the max yes. 99% of clans will not. Can not. The organisation of this will literally require people to do this full time lol.
What a great post, hope plarium listen because you say what I feel, so close to burn out after years of playing
I didn’t bother to build teams for cursed city and now this, the game is becoming extremely time consuming just to finish the basics we need time saving shortcuts
Hit it right on the nail. Background dungeon running should be the NEW META!!!!!
This is exactly what I said to HH and Ash and mtgjedi this is a terrible idea to time consuming and a whale and kraken fest. Plarium take care of the other issues in game then make more issues. But plarium is ass backwards!!!! I'm so in burnt out mode and I might take a lil vacation from raid and maybe pay more attention to dragonheir. seriously 😒
They just need to add quick multi battles in the dungeons. I think they should have shareable replays of battles too.
this is more of a planning and not so much in the moment input but it still gives me "the west" vibes and I really miss that game.
We need instant completion on Dungeons, Hydra, Factions wars and Doom Tower.
It really feels like "difficult to understand but impossible to master" type of content. In one way its a good thing, it will keep the major clans busy for a considerable amount of time.
And heres the thing. I dont think its gonna take so much time. Prep fase you set up bonuses and all that BS and after you just setup defense team in one place as a player and I think that's it for defense. Then you just attacking when you can. But I might be wrong, time will tell.
As complex as it is, you don't have to quit the game, just play the areas that you want to play, as scratch said, there are top clans that don't do hydra clash, just do what you want
Reducing the time it takes to do dailys and advanced quests need done asap. then we have time to do other stuff.
Scratch, my suggestion Plarium needs to do to reduce time in game is make Hydra clash based off of just one of your three weekly keys
Auto dungeons and campaign would help a bit
Will the new currency’s be whaleable,thus will be the main factor I look at. If it is I’m out. If it’s play time I’ll try it.
new game mode puts Raid to a real MMO....time investment needed here if your clan wants to win.. I like it and already ONLY play Raid on my PC and deputy of my clan so going to help out.....Raid or Die
Theres a just another silver sink and time sink, two biggest broblems.
Honeslty for me it's not even the time its more of the champions we got to use I don't got more than 3 squads to fight also faction requirements can't do any at all maybe fight with just 1 or 2 champs plus my clan got 12 people that r over lvl 45 so I'm screwed 🤣
I'm incredibly upset with this clan wars. Not only is is a TON of work for the entire clan, and the Clan leaders. Lots of communications and strategizing. But there's still so much in the game that needs to be fixed! From Tag arena (Tag Silver 2 and facing teams of all MYTHICAL CHAMPS. I got screen shots) to spending an entire day in Minotaur farming masteries, to being paired against freaking KRAKENS in CvC where 1 person literally wins the entire CvC by themselves, even if their clan joined ours and faced him combined. To the ever increasing amount of work for Fusions now with multiple dungeon divers, training, summoning and more.
Agree on everything. My clan has decided to play clan wars totally casual and without any strategizing, coordination or organisation. Clan leaders said they are not up for doing it serious. They fear the communication, the time requirement, the drama.
They need to make the communication between clan members better
I think hydra clash, cvc, fusions, clan wars all need to be in a rotation like shard 2x summons and never need to overlap. It’d remove how much you feel the need to sink your time and then give time to prepare for other things. We don’t need to be constantly staring at our phones, we have lives. The median age for raid players is in the 30’s and we all have jobs and lives. Get with your player base plarium.
Scratch I think there is one major flaw I havent seen anyone talk about being able to see our clans rosters . Very hard to do strategy when you have to rely on communication from your clan mates, some span different time zones work different schedules etc. I applaud Plarium for a new feel and complexity to the game but the communication and strategy piece will be very tough. You also hit on something important this game mode will not be fun if a clan loses 2-3 matches out of the gate with having to rebuild buidlings
Here's a question, How are you gonna be able to do this and a fusion at the same time?
You will need more commitment to the game mate! Hope you are not planning anything else in your life! 🙂
Hydra and tag team are the biggest issue. Let me pick multiple teams to auto thru in tag and give me better AI or AI that i can setup for hydra so i can do auto in actual full auto......and get rid of random changing heads outside of maybe the last difficulty.
Imagine vs MAD who are pvp focused, you would just concede straight away, and then the power creep grows week/month on month…
And new currency’s coming is ridiculous … I get it but you’re right, it’s like a full time job.
Unless they’re looking to going the Esports World Cup with actual rewards, they’re milking a dry cow
There is far more wrong with 3v3 than just the amount of time it takes - the ranking, progression and tier system are still a complete mess.
They banned me from the game chat how do they expect me to talk to my clan mates
Are they not doing away with cvc for this??
They just need to put in more quick battles for faction wars and dungeons stages you have already cleared.
They wouldn't do it for dungeons as there would be no reason to build a faster team, supports would rule. Dragon & IG hard 10 would be a joke, make your 30 minute support only flawless team and now I insta battle my 55 autos.
Hydra and tag team arena are the problem.
@@aelinstue9431 would that matter tho ? the main focus for plarium on the game is everything except dungeons. It would mean nothing for plarium if people didnt have to build speed teams for dungeons.
The biggest issue is that Plarium keeps refusing to increase the base energy that everybody has... Followed by Sintranos being way too overtuned..
Don't get how increasing enery would make things better in any way. Actually they have to do the opposite. Reduce playtime, reduce keys, reduce energy, reduce stuff that has to be done. Otherwise people will not participate in game modes that need thinking and even more time spend.
Time is a big factor. Just to do all of the daily stuff can take a couple hours sometimes if you don't have super fast teams. Nevermind doing fusions where many have to just set their phones aside and hope they have enough multi battles. Tag arena is actually a big factor in me thinking about quitting recently. I've been stuck on the same Ramantu mission for months now and the RNG just is not in my favor. Earlier today I had a match where practically everything I did went wrong, debuffs didn't land couldn't kill enemy. Challenged them again and the same team wiped the floor with them because things actually landed when they were supposed to. I am not a fan of PVP in general. This does not interest me at all. I am kind of dreading it as Raid likes to tie PVE content to PVP modes, I'm wondering how they will do it with this one.
Definately a problem. In my clan only 30% play hydra weekly. Unless we pay a manager there is no way we will be able to properly play the new clanwars mode.
And if we do try, I can already tell you it's foing to rip apart many clans and create a LOT of bad blood. We lost because X didn't play well, or didn't play at all e.g. haha
There is already three pvp modes, normal arena, 3v3 and live arena. Like holy moly. I already only pick off single champ defense in normal arena, cant get into S3 to advance my ramantu mission and am pretty much never available for live(i hate pvp so dont do it anyways), sobya sure put in another time sink of PVP. Good job Plarium. Auto complete would be a nice start.
The game has definately grown too much. I start to forget playing stuff since it is just too much. Droped a lot in Live Arena because I simply forgot it existed lol
Ya this is probably gonna kill my clan. We have been hanging on by a thread between constantly losing Personal Rewards CvC and only getting Hydra Clash rewards 50% of the time. We lose players every time we don't win. Fewer and fewer new players are waiting to fill the ranks.
They should remove hydra clash and normal CvC and put those rewards in this game mode
What kind of rewards are they gonna give us for doing all that ?
Not sure yet, they only showed the new Legendary Hero.
I am certain they will eventually sell those two ressources with premium gems and/or packs. This is Plarium after all....
we just have to make days 48 hours long
Please, for the love of God, will plarium please implement these changes just as you said Skrach...WE NEED instant battles in the dead zones. Having 2watch the same runs over and over and over and over, never ending just isn't fun anymore.
Like being able to improve on a separate dungeon that say some of us are not doing se well on simultaneously just makes so much sense.
If its not too much to ask, just let people choose their next legendary even just once or twice a year.
So many wanted champs, just been waiting years, still haven't got, its so long. By the time I get some of them, they are not even as relevant anymore.
4 years still no poison exploder, no warlord, no umiko, or krisia, I get we can't have them all but if just once or twice a year we could select a Champ our team is missing.
Or even optional fusions let people go back and select a different champion they actually need instead of this possible dog lord, which is just as lively to end up as being completely trash.
This game needs a rehall.
Also, filter for the fastest gear or highest damage set.
Thank goodness for HH optimiser. Otherwise, we'll all be screwed but come on Plarium this is getting ridiculous.
how tf can u coordinate with people from different timezones? and it looks so complex and they havent showed rewards for a reason probably
You have to face reality: Most people don't want to coordinate. It is going to be a pain to even try.
They need to slow this shit down I haven’t even cleared cruised city yet damn! This is going to tear clans apart hydra is already bad about that
If I wanted huge CvC - PvP mode, i'd go play a strategy wargame. If this is going to be as huge as it looks, it is time to call it quits. Too intense, too much time.