Langdon Tactical Now Works on HK's
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Langdon Tactical is known for their work on the Beretta 92 platform. They managed to take an old school gun and bring into the modern era. The H&K P30 has been an awesome but always needed that little bit of extra work to bring it up to speed. When we heard Langdon was announcing their work on the P30 and P2000's.......this was good news. - Розваги
You won the internet for today with this intro and content. Thank you.
Haha we’ll take it
Sometimes his ideas pan out 😂😂
@@1911syndicate hey you can trade out the slide realease with the slide release from the saftey version
Poor Ernest, singlehandedly made Berettas popular again and ol 'Retta still won't send them the guns they need.
Good for the rest of us that he's branching out to other manufacturers.
FYI. Hk parts sells shortened slide lock/releases for both sides on p30.
You are slightly wrong, you can convert V3 (SA/DA) to V4 and V4.1 (Lem variants) you need to replace few parts (hammer, catch latch, control latch, clamping piece and some springs) but these are available either through HKParts or HK distributor.
Got my P30 V1 LEM from Langdon Tactical a few days ago. Mounted a Holosun 508T on it, and it's now my favorite tack driver.
I'm a huge fan of both the P30 series and the LEM trigger variants in particular. It's awesome that LTT has jumped into the aftermarket for them.
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I had issues in the beginning with the slide not locking back, but adjusted my grip and not a problem anymore. Just move your shooting hand thumb off to the side a little on the back of your support thumb. Or just buy the short slide release
This is awesome you guys!! Love the LEM/DASA Breakdown! I think Ernest is Svelt too - LMAO! Great video y'all. Thank you so much for checking these out.
Bro he’s svelt and ruggedly handsome 👊🏼
Just waiting for a P30L from them to come back in stock in LEM. I love my P30sk LEM, trigger IMO is much better than the DA/SA variant. Same weight break, but just feels cleaner/crisper right out of the box, makes a good aiwb gun. LT does some awesome work from what I've seen. Would be cool to have a full size version of my carry gun with a RDO on top.
BTW at 33:30 there's a super easy fix for the last round not locking back, I have the exact same issue. Ordered a shortened takedown/slide stop lever from HK Parts, popped the shortened lever in the gun in less than 15 seconds, problem solved. The right side slide stop lever can simply be removed. No need to cut it off!
As someone who has been carrying V3 (DA/SA) P30 and P30L as EDC since 2015...I too was plagued by the slide lever...the secret is buying the P30S shorter slide lever and installing on the V3 and V1 (LEM)...small change, but more room and the way it should be from factory (5 seconds once the slide is off). Just note even the short lever ridges are prominent and can with repeated draws the support thumb palm swell can get raw if a righty...the next step is to cut or chamfer the edge radius and radius which I haven't done. Really happy to see the P30 get the love and attention it deserves and I will upgrade my units.
So I sent my HK P30 LEM in to have the trigger upgraded. I went with the lightest trigger pull and the Grey Guns flat trigger. I am 💯 satisfied. This makes the P30 so much better. The trigger on this thing is excellent. Highly recommend. Also, the folks at Langdon Tactical are great. I got my gun back well before the stated wait times.
I just sent my 92a1 slide off yesterday and I'm already ready to get it back. Hopefully I get lucky like you and don't have to wait the full month
I have the P30SK in DA/SA from LTT, lightest hammer spring they offer and the Grey Guns trigger. I have to say I am mixed on it. I love flat triggers on my strikers, but the long (and it is still not what I would call “light”) DA first pull with the gray guns trigger is really tough for me. And I say that as someone who has a 92 from LTT and a p229 Legion from Sig. I do so much better in DA with those pistols. Don’t know if it’s the flat trigger or what, but I almost wish I had them leave the H&K trigger on it.
@@scooter5940 it’s funny you say that…after shooting it a lot more I agree. I wish I had kept the standard HK trigger instead of opting for the flat one.
I always come here first for HK content, then onto Teufelshund Tactical. Love your joint content.
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You can install the short slide release lever and it will help alleviate the slide not locking back problem.
💯 correct about mag release... paddle > button
Love your work guys, keep it up. Do a video on upgrading or customizing HK's. I'm an avid fan of the USP series!!!!
USP you say? Give us a couple days
I just got my Langdon P30L v3 going optic shopping today I havent run it yet but drying firing I feel the difference I have about 2000 rounds through my regular p30
As someone who has a P30L and a P30SK, you can tell Chris that the SK is a very fun little gun. Definitely worth it
Hell yeah James gonna snag one fairly soon I think 👊🏼
I have a p30sk for everyday carry and love it! I also have a vp9 but need to get me a p30 or p30l or both.
Love the hammer fired guns better.
@@anthonyreddy2834 yeah I plan on getting a SK myself and sending it to Langdon. You’re liking that SK yeah?
Yes love the sk, was waiting for someone to mill for a red dot
@@anthonyreddy2834 and Langdon delivered 👊🏼
I'm very glad they sooped up the p30. What a cool piece.
Walked into a LGS yesterday and they had a DASA LTT P30SK. It was very difficult to not purchase it but I already have a standard P30SK. The moment I find a LTT P30 with a RMR cut it will becoming home with me. I cannot stress how good the trigger felt on that P30SK, it was other worldly and it helps that my standard carry is a P30SK so it was a great point of reference.
Honestly probably easier to get if you just order it from Langdon. We’ve got a channel sponsor named Piece of Mind guns. He had a few in recently. Call him
Thank you for this video it's nice to hear that as a left-handed user, one of the big companies thought of us.
I have a P2000 which I purchased because the trigger is much better than the stock P30. The grips not so much! The P30 trigger I found to be very mushy. A trigger job and red dot cut sounds very appealing! I'll have to strongly consider the Langdon P30!
You can go DA/SA to LEM on a P30. Just not the other way.
I rarely felt as perfect a grip interface as the P30 vs any of my other pistols. Alas, because the DA trigger pull and the subsequent trigger reset was really subpar (i.e. horrible) for my needs, I had to reluctantly let it go. Also at the time, Red Dot optic cut options were null/few and far between. I replaced the P30 with other Polymer frame DA/SA "compacts": CGW CZ P07's and LTT Beretta PX4's.
This may change your mind
A Langdon Beretta PX4 trigger is miles ahead of any factory HK trigger. It would be interesting to see how much the HK could be improved.
I was looking for a polymer DA/SA this spring and picked the PX4CC over the P30 over the superior trigger and half as expensive mags. I'd been carrying a 92 or Glock for the last 3 years, and love LTT/Beretta, but have always had a soft spot for HKs so it was a hard choice.
@@noah.s95 yes Beretta's factory DA/SA is significantly better than the P30 v3 (DASA), the v1 LEM however is a whole other story. What made me sell my Px4 Compact was the slide mounted safety. I even tried the flatter stealth style and I just could not like it. I wish Beretta made the Px4 compact in the DAO variant.
@@billassande7628 I change all my Berettas to decock only where the slide mounted position is actually perfect.
I did the gray guns flat trigger and short reset on my v1 light lem p30 myself, while it was very tedious to do it was well worth it. Those two changes alone made it a fantastic trigger, i can only imagine how much better it would feel with everything high polished as i didnt go that far. Whenever they become available a p30l with red dot cut from ltt is definitely on the list.
The models with a manual safety have a shorter slide stop that help one achieve slide lock on an empty mag. It's not much but it's enough plus it's a factory part.
Just ordered one! Langdon T. P30L LEM gray guns flat trigger with short reset and extra light trigger based on your recommendations Thanks Boys!!! Its my home defense gun soon.I already own a VP9.
Sweet!
Never really been interested in HK, but LTT works magic and I love the 92 again thanks to Ernest. HK may interest me some now thanks to LTT.
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Speaking on holsters I kinda screwed up with my APX A1 because i didn't find a compatible holster before I bought the gun, and come to find out pretty much no one makes a light bearing holster, or even a regular holster, for the A1. I did, however, buy an A0 (Beretta retroactively refers to the APX as the A0 to differentiate it from the A1) grip and swap it out (good news is I wanted an OD grip anyways) and now I have an A0 compatible holster coming for my Italian mutt.
Amazing that DA/SA has to be explained. The Walther P99 AS is the striker fired version of HK’s LEM; load the gun and the trigger pull is super light SA, but press the decocker, and it’s DA heavy for “safe” carry. Many just can’t get either the Walther or HK LEM concept.
I have both. I must say it is an awesome feature. Even though the P99 is being retired it is still my favorite of all my strikers. I am a big fan of the P30 but I am considering getting the Langdon upgrades.
The only way I figured out the LEM trigger on my P2000 9 mm was while firing it. After a round is fired you don’t have to let the trigger out all the way to reset to fire again. You can fire faster and stay on target.
He rubbed it on his belly-I’m sold
Add the shorter SK slide release levers. They are lower profile and less long. Having said that.
The P30 series is only lacking a red dot, full height grip texture and better placed slide release levers. This is where the Walther PDP/PPQ series outshines the P30 series. Having shot over 3,000 rounds through my P30L LEM, the OG Wick Stick. The only real complaint is the half grip height texture.
While the PDP/PPQ is quite snappy for 9mm, it is very light weight and returns to zero like a race gun. Jedenfalls sind Deutsche Waffen am besten.
If you jump on hk parts, they have a shorter version of the slide catch (i believe it was for the DA/SA model with a safety). If just a shorter stop isn't what you're looking for, the SK catches are slimmer and shorter.
Chris needs it.
@@1911syndicate i grabbed both and the SK were just to small for my liking. I have XL to XXL large hands for reference. The beautiful thing about the p30 is we're able to tune the gun for our hands.
Few years ago I bought a P30L LEM and sent it to Gray Guns for the SRT and nickel coated internals. Guess all I'm missing now is the red dot.
picked one of these up for a steal and ran an x300t on it. didn't feel right. switched to a tlr 7a and WOW. perfect faux gas pedal, never accidentally release the slide on end of mag. now about that holster...
Easy content to enjoy really good hosts that are very entertaining to watch and listen to
Appreciate that!
Very kind of you to say and thank you for pickin up what we are puttin down
I love this gun and have about a 1000 rounds through it with no issues ehat so ever. I do get a little bit of hammer bite on my dominant hand due to my higher grip or the way I grip tjis gun. Otherwise I’m definitely more accurate with it than just about any other handgun I shot. Can’t explain why exactly but that super light LEM just feels good snd it’s very soft recoiling gun.
Like your video guys I also HAVE a HK USP .45 COMPACT AND 2 P-30 THE V3 AND THE V-1 LEM BUT IN .40 IM VERY INTERESTED IN Those RED DOT SIGHTS..
Ernest figured out long ago , it’s not wise to put all your eggs in one basket.
I’ve got one of his LTT 1301 , AWESOME!
Cool video thanks. I really liked the music for the intro.
Crispy kills it as always
I have a video on the lefty slide lock. I put a P30 S slide lock on the P30 LEM which is a little shorter and cured the problem with no dremel.
I’m waiting on them to work not he safety variants as I bought the one with the safety option bc it was what was available for a decent price
You can outright remove the slide release on the right side so you wouldn’t have to dremel. Take the slide off and just rotate the release clockwise. It comes right out.
Lol too late
As a lefty I would have liked to see some close ups of what you ment about shaving the slide release and the prefrence of the LEM for left handed over the decock feature.
This is one of your most intriguing videos yet. Great job!
Langdon is the best. The Langdon PX4 is AMAZING. I am sure he worked his magic on these HKs too. But the price? A grand with no options. Not even an optic cut.
The UMP was never as good as its peers in its price class (Super annoying recoil impulse, sights were OK, trigger just OK too.)
A lot was fixed with the P30. But still not up to it's peers. The fact that it is hammer fired gives it such advantages though. A hammer fired system means the hammer is part of the locking mechanism. The trigger also just has to be tripped in a hammer system, not drag the striker through its final stages.
The LEM system is also intriguing.
I would never buy any of the base HK pistols. Sig, Walther, S&W, Even the Bersa TPR give equal performance. But that Langdon P30 all decked out should be able to run with any carry pistol.
Wow, makes me think. Is it a better premium carry pistol than the Staccato?
I’ve heard their Px4 is amazing. Which is interesting to me since that’s not a gun I’ve ever considered
Great review. Bought a P30L with the very light trigger last night.
Congrats
Intro song got me into the right Daft Punk / Das Sound Machine vibe for HK goodness. Thanks for the continued great content
Daft punk rules the world
Got my p30sk the other day from LTT. Only wish is that they would offer NP3 coating like Grayguns. Other than that this has become my preferred carry firearm.
I am a left handed shooter I have a love/ hate relationship with the lem trigger I have it in my hk45 an p30L
Then have the p30sk with DA/SA an safety decoker then the usp45 DA/SA but carry a vp9 everyday because have more rounds through that
But I think I am starting to prefer DA/SA action guns myself
I HAVE DA/SA for my day to day I work work in different areas at are 100 miles for home and it work for me and I carrying it more that my Sig P365 LX, it a great gun to ccw but My H&K p30 is so good to carry for the job I have to to do going store to store in the state i work (Florida) a red Free states. And I I all used the gun for gym carry.
It's pretty awesome to see LEM resurgence with the help of LTT and Wright
LEM is that little known secret
Sweeeeeet !!! I’ve been waiting for this moment for a long long time. Love me some P30!
Yeah, the decocker is annoying lefty, but I still got the DA/SA/ next one will probably be an LEM though, and then another DA/SA but with the manual safety. that safety should make the slide lock issue go away since the safety models have shorter slide levers and the safety can be used as a thumb rest.
Would love to afford getting my p30 l worked up on its a v3 but still want the GrayGuns srt and trigger and eventually a p30 lem variant. Had a p2000 lem and p30sk I had to sell and iit sucked to day the least.
I'm biased too... Hell of a combo, doesn't get much better 🔥
I’m shocked that Sig, CZ and Beretta haven’t tried to copy or mimic the LEM trigger. It’s truly a game changer in hammer fired pistol technology.
Just a guess, but there don’t seem to be a whole lot of development dollars going into hammer fired anything these days.
I carry my HK P30 sks locked and cocked. There is absolutely no need to DA this pistola! With the manual safety coming off on the draw, (it's a flippin' thumb move while grabbing your grip), I'm hosing single action all day long. I got the slide milled specifically for the Holosun 407K, 6 MOA dot. Deep set, No Plate. The dot is instantaneously accessible and the thing is a flippin' laser death beam out to 25 yds.
Somebody should mention that there are shorter slide releases for the p30 with the safety. this is to make more space for the safety lever. you might be able to find this part standalone. not too expensive
Just got my order in to LTT looking forward to having my p30sk customize. Thanks for the informative video 🤘🏾🇺🇸
How do you like it?
@@TengoUnGatoEnLosPantelones Its awesome highly recommend it.
Thanks for the great video.
I would also like to see a show on silenced home defence weapons and subsonic choices.
Been considering picking one up played with one yesterday at my lgs and the da/sa version felt super goofy decocking compared to my px4 and 92x ltt might be going lem because of that.
I'm with Chris, I really want an SK LEM. My 1st handgun (1998) was a USP45 , 2nd a Stainless USP match45 3rd HK45 compact tactical and last is a vp9 longslide. P30SK will just round out the collection nicely
I think I’ll be getting a SK even if they don’t do any LEM work to them. But I hope they do 😉
P30sk v1 (LEM) is a bad ass carry pistol. I strongly recommend getting some of the 13rd mags for it. Between these and the 10rd mags it covers 99% of my year round carry needs.
@@billassande7628 glad to hear you’re diggin that cause I plan on getting a SK and having Langdon do some work to it if they ever get into the SK lineup
@@Chrisblau they do work on the SK models, only the optic mount is unavailable.
@@Chrisblau per the website they aren't working on the "S" or safety equipped models. Everything else in the P30 and P2000 series is a go.
Another great review guys. Didn’t like the PX4 or the 92 all that much-until I tried (and purchased) the Langdon versions. This could make me check out the HKP30. Beyond LEM and extra light any other recs?
Nah man just a ton of ammo and training haha. It s great gun I am really happy with how these turned out.
Nope just the trigger and red dot cut
There's a reason why John wick used the P30L in the first movie. It's quite a fantastic firearm.
P2000sk lem on layaway still, don’t want a red dot cut but maybe the trigger job although maybe risky for cc I dunno. (I’m a sucker for subcompacts want a 509c, and maybe even g26).
Grey guns SRT+CDMA 4.1 conversion=chef's kiss
I wish i could get my p30 slide milled but both of my slides have the deep pocket cut inside the rear of the slide that wont allow them to be 😭
Huge LTT Fan (Beretta 92X LTT Compact) & Huge HK Fan, (7) HK in the collection VP9 Gray, VP9 Black, VP9 Tactical, VP9 Long Slide Kit, VP40, P2000, P30SK V3💥💥💥
& HUGE Fan of Gray Guns 💪
You guys rock 🪨
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I wish they would come out with an Acro plate for it.
Can you supply the Holster models etc. where you guys bought them please. I like them! P
Picked up a used p30s v1 about two years ago, no box, 2012 lightly shot- installed gray guns short reset and 11# spring and mepro sights… amazing shooter, very accurate.
Aesthetically, I just can’t see myself putting a dot on it.
Very sweet recoiling pistol with super Spider-Man ergos.
Great video every time 🔥🔥
Thanks dude
Which trigger shoe is preferred - the factory or Gray Guns? The GG flat shoe looks kinda out of place for a DA-SA or LEM type trigger.
Hk parts has a short slide release level for $40 that may solve that con you two mentioned.
Love my LTT SK. So much so I am now shopping for a LTT 30 or 30L. Just can’t decide which to get.
Get the “L” smoother recoil impulse.
I love my P30L. And now I need a USP 9!
Yes you do
I need one as well
That holster is 🔥!!
Mmm hmm
Who knew this gun LEM version has the same exact trigger as a Taurus g3. The play before wall and re-strike feature is the exact same trigger “Guntubers” hate about Taurus, in the Hk it’s innovative
If you decock with your right hand while putting your thumb in support on the hammer, you can actually decock silently. I prefer the hammer not hitting hard on other components.
My hk45 elm I had the issue of hitting slide stop, put a shorter (believe its the p2000?) stop on it and no more issues. HK parts sells a shortened p30 slide stop. May work? Hoping to bank some overtime to afford one of these, my hk45 is my favorite non 1911 45, the p30 kind of tickles my pickle.
I’m not surprised by the P30 from Langdon. I’m not discounting what they do at all. Anything from Langdon is incredible!!!
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Nice video fellas
Can you link the holster for the p30L hoster/wml/rds. Thanks guys
We need a follow up on the hk p30L….. I can only watch this video so many times 😅
The LEM is pretty much the firearm equivalent of Excel…god’s greatest gift to man
Just sent a USP slide off to them for milling. Waiting for P30L lem to be back in stock and my CC will heat up again.
Sick!!!
Now I do not feel bad as I am not the only one who can never keep the slide to lock back on empty mag with my p30. I love this gun but my grip in relation to the slide release is on this weapon does not allow this to happen, ever. I cannot undo the same grip I have had for decades to accommodate the p30, I wish I could but after more than a thousand rounds, it just frustrates me that I can never keep the slide to stay locked back after my last round.
What's the reasoning for as a lefty using your trigger finger for the slide release (shaving off the right side slide release) or reverse (which you say may not be possible) for righty? Why not just use your thumb?
You can put a LEM in a DA/SA
Just not the other way around. Can leave or remove the decocker; I would suggest removing it as you may inadvertently decock your LEM and have a heavy first trigger pull.
Right. It’s not advised which I why I didn’t bring that up
@@1911syndicate fair enough.
I have the hk p2000. love the size its perfect for edc. threw on a tlr7 light. swapped da/sa for 4.1 LEM with short reset kit. Also you need the thin slide releases, (this takes away the slide lock issue. I had the same issue before switching these out), hk 45 mag release is another must for the p2k. i-dot milling job from wright armory with holosun 508t on top. 10 lb hammer spring. its a tack driver, reduced LEM pre travel with the 4.1, 1/3 shorter reset with theGG srt kit. 3.5 lb ish consistent pull. 17 rd p30 mag with x grip spacer. love it.
Hey there love this video! But could I ask what model safari land holster that is?
I don’t remember the model. It was modded by RDR Gear
I would be interested in a P30 T OR.
Man I been looking at this gun today and now you make video about it haha
its a sign dude. buy it.
@@Chrisblau I ordered HK P30L with Lem trigger.
@@Awesome_1789 hell yeah dude. Welcome to the dark side
Run the slimmer slide release. Think mines from a p2000 irc
Who does the Graffiti? USP Expert 9mm 18 round Jet Funnel mags are the GOAT HK mags. They are steel then polymer coated. Absolute tanks.
Which optics ready HK P30 holsters are shown at 02:18 in the video? Been looking for one for a while
Jeff is a wizard with safari land holsters
He actually is
The Gandalf of Kydex if you will.
@@1911syndicate Which Safariland holsters are you guys using? And how well does the retention work? I know that Safariland does not make an optics ready holster for the P30 or P30L unfortunately
This may have the best breakdown of the different trigger variants of the P30 series and how they differ from the USP series.
Damn is it confusing but I feel Jake nailed it also. That’s the third time he explained it to me and it finally clicked but that’s to be expected.
Thank ya.
@@Chrisblau I feel like I explain it everytime I find an LEM variant at a gun shop.
@@billassande7628 it is a tad confusing but hey 🤷🏼♂️ once you get it. You get it in multiple ways.
Great video. I noticed that you have an interesting grip...do you shoot revolvers a lot? I'm interested in knowing more about the grip...does it help with speed or accuracy? Cheers!
I do not shooters revolvers very much. Honestly not sure what it is in my grip you spotted
Sorry I was confused when I was watching the shooting sequences...i was thinking you were right handed but you are left handed shooter...too much turkey I guess :-)@@1911syndicate
Jake you are thinking of the German GSG 9 which are not really homeland they fall under a counter terrorism unit which is on par with the KSK and majority of them are ex-KSK.
Hk does have an optics cut on their pistols stock and it’s only on the VP9 or the VP9 L
Aj that’s must’ve been it
@@1911syndicate the history of the GSG 9 is pretty interesting, all started during the German Olympics held in Germany duh in the 90s. It’s kinda interesting how the GIGN, GSG 9, and Spetsnaz are all considered to be anti terrorism not homeland security. We do in fact have an anti terrorism unit but it falls in DOHS more so with FBI, CIA, secret service, US marshals, and coast guard those are CAT, HRT, SRS, SOG, and MSRT.
CAT- counter assault team (secret service)
SOG- special operations group (us marshals)
HRT- hostage rescue team (FBI)
SAC- special activities center (CIA)
MSRT- Maritime security response team (coast guard falls under DOHS) MSST is the military tier 1 unit of the coast guard
SAC is a paramilitary unit of the CIA that compose of mostly ex- special forces/SOF, they play a lot of roles with HRT.
HRT is the top second of the chain for counter terrorism (majority of them are ex-special forces/SOF they have been to Afghanistan as well with delta force.
CAT is the cream of the crop when it comes to counter terrorism these are the guys that are the first to react if it occurs.
SOG is by far the only counter terrorism that consist of mostly SWAT units and some ex-special forces/SOF and it’s the only one that doesn’t require special operations or special forces experience, it requires at least 5 years of SWAT and 3 years of US marshals. If you are thinking that the test is a cake walk think again, their accuracy test is no joke and your groups has to be tight like at least a 1 1/2 in group at 25 yards. Yeah SOG is no joke at all.
Sorry about this long information but it’s a rabbit hole and it’s interesting
The USP series has a harsh environment coating on the slide, barrel and internals. Some kind of coating that penetrated the metal to make everything very corrosion resistant Does the P30s have this as well or no? No one ever talks about this. Also the USP barrels are like Ordnance/Cannon grade, is that the same in the p30s?
So how does that red dot cut compare to the slide replacement kit from H&K that is cut for a red dot plate?
Haven’t played with that kit