I Watched Movies That LOST Over $100 MILLION!

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  • @Suspect_Green
    @Suspect_Green  10 місяців тому +98

    Hey guys, wanted to reupload this one as this is in line with my new format. Might move some of my older reviews over too. Or if you haven't seen this video yet, hope you like it!

    • @MichaelAnthonyPresents
      @MichaelAnthonyPresents 10 місяців тому +2

      Glad to see this is reuploaded. I was watching this video earlier today and midway through it, it said it was set to private lol

    • @t6kr958
      @t6kr958 10 місяців тому +1

      2:50 That stunt was incredible but I only just noticed that it wasn't one big stunt. It was 2 seperate shots so that they timing of the fall and the horse carriage didn't have to be perfect. You can just barely see the transition at 2:53 if you pay attention to the positioning of Geena Davis. Still really good though
      EDIT: Actually I just played it in slow motion and I'm not too sure if I'm right . Davis' hair in a couple of frames looks kinda cropped so It gives me the sense that it was cropped around Geena Davis and that's how they stitched together 2 different takes, although it's hard to tell, and considering it's an older movie then the stitching of the 2 sperate takes shouldn't look that good, so I could be wrong about all of this lol

    • @Suspect_Green
      @Suspect_Green  10 місяців тому +3

      @@t6kr958 Yeah, it does look like a transition in hindsight. But that's kinda even more impressive. Considering it was 1995. The kind of VFX to pull this transition off didn't exist really at the time. Kudos to the guys who worked on this scene! Cos I totally missed this uptil now.

    • @riripi4
      @riripi4 10 місяців тому

      Honestly, reuploads like this would give me an excuse to rewatch these goated videos so I'm all for it.

  • @alexc6784
    @alexc6784 6 місяців тому +91

    Check out the box office for the week Cutthroat Island was released.
    Toy Story, Jumanji, Heat, Father of the Bride, Casino, Golden Eye, Casino. That's more quality in a single week than we get now in 10 years.

    • @guarantweed
      @guarantweed 5 місяців тому +9

      Dang, no wonder it bombed. I like every single one of those movies. I also liked Cutthroat, but it would have been the bottom one on the list to go see with those movies. And I did, I saw Casino, Toy Story, Heat and Golden Eye in theaters. Man, the good old days.

    • @schizzo8959
      @schizzo8959 5 місяців тому +13

      Casino is so good it is on here twice.

    • @quercusquercus532
      @quercusquercus532 5 місяців тому +1

      Father of the Bride II - closer to Cutthroat Island than Toy Story, I think? Seems like the exception that proves the rule, though, cuz that's a hell of a list.

    • @alexc6784
      @alexc6784 5 місяців тому

      @@schizzo8959 yeah. Also Casino is good

    • @ssoory6343
      @ssoory6343 5 місяців тому +1

      The title seems to reflect its box office competition on release

  • @JOSH-lw2jv
    @JOSH-lw2jv 10 місяців тому +74

    Carolco Pictures going bankrupt because of *"Cutthroat Island"*
    also caused a $90 million movie that
    Sylvester Stallone was to star in get canned.
    That film was called *"ISOBAR",* which was to be directed by Roland Emmerich (after the 1st director Ridley Scott had
    left the project) and the monster FXs were to be done by Oscar-winning guru Rick Baker (after another FX legend H.R. Giger left the project).
    In that film, Stallone was to play a reluctant hero who goes up against a genetically-engineered monster plant with tentacles that got loose in a underground 5-story subway train en route from Los Angeles to Tokyo. Alongside Stallone, the cast includes Kim Basinger, Jim Belushi, screen legend Walter Matthau, and Michael Jeter.

    • @Suspect_Green
      @Suspect_Green  10 місяців тому +21

      Whoa! That's very interesting! Honestly, might make a video one day talking about cancelled projects. We on earth are in desperate need of that alternate reality tv boxset thing from Rick and Morty.

    • @KillFriskey
      @KillFriskey 10 місяців тому +8

      For the record, that was before Cutthroat that this was being pitched. Carolco and Stallone have a freakin' history of cancelled projects.
      You mentioned ISOBAR, but he was also attached to do a comedy about feuding neighbors where it would have been Stallone vs. John Candy and written AND directed by John Hughes and was going to begin production after he was done Curly Sue, but it never got off the ground.
      And then...there's GALE FORCE. described in the screenplay as "Die Hard in a hurricane" where Stallone played "an ex-Navy SEAL who has to fight against a group of modern pirates who attack a coastal town during a large, catastrophic hurricane". That went through many rewrites and was eventually bought by Carolco with Renny Harlin to direct, but he wanted creative control and in the long run, realizing that the budget was going to be way too high to figure out how to do some of the sequences, canned it 2 weeks before production started.
      It's okay though, because Stallone, Harlin, and crew moved on to another project. A little movie called CLIFFHANGER...which somehow was DOUBLE the budget of Gale Force, but according to sources, Tri-Star (among other distributors) was able to help with funding, which meant that Carolco didn't get much of the net profit, even though the movie was a smash ($255M worldwide).
      Yeah, no wonder they went out of business.

    • @JOSH-lw2jv
      @JOSH-lw2jv 10 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@KillFriskey
      Stallone must've like the *"Gale Force"* story that it almost became *"RAMBO 4",* before we got the final version in 2008. In that story, John J. Rambo was
      to return to his home town and meets his brother who is Sheriff, but he gets kicked out due to his involvement in Vietnam and the first 3 films. But then he comes back in order to save his brother from escaping criminals he put
      in jail who plan to kill him. Also, this was to take place during a big hurricane.

    • @zmr3352
      @zmr3352 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Suspect_Green There's a lot of interesting cancelled projects to talk about. The channel, Supervoid Cinema, talks about a lot of cancelled projects.

    • @brenyatta
      @brenyatta 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Suspect_GreenYou could fill that entire video with JUST recent Warner Bros movies, if you wanted to 😅

  • @aliceosako792
    @aliceosako792 9 місяців тому +85

    One thing about _The 13th Warrior_ is that it is a 'realistic' adaptation of _Beowulf_ (where Grendel is actually a tribe of raiders), combined with the memoirs of the real life 10th century world traveler ibn Fadlan.
    No, seriously. If you aren't aware of that, the whole film makes no sense.
    I'm not sure how much sense it makes if you do know it, but it does help. It's an OK film, if I remember well enough, but confusing as hell as it is.

    • @sychuan3729
      @sychuan3729 9 місяців тому +9

      It has perfect sense without knowing this. Btw, I'v read Beowulf and never seen connection, until I found it in web. Most of movies he discusses here are pretty good. They bombed becouse of over top budget and competition with some other movies.

    • @TimL-nr4hr
      @TimL-nr4hr 6 місяців тому +8

      About halfway through the movie, I was "hey, this is Beauwolf!" but from the perspective of a guy who is just traveling with them.

    • @Pietje_Piraat
      @Pietje_Piraat 6 місяців тому +3

      Them raiders where the last tribe of Neanderthals

    • @AlyrArkhon
      @AlyrArkhon 6 місяців тому +3

      Yes, there are some scenes directly from Beowulf, and there are really cool shots (the fire snake for example), but on the other side this is a "we have Seven samurai at home, with vikings", with horrible historical inacurracies and neanderthals. As a teenager I liked it. But now I see why it failed.

    • @sychuan3729
      @sychuan3729 6 місяців тому +3

      @@AlyrArkhon Ir failed becouse of extremly big budget and nothing more. Seven Samurais aren't historicaly accurate as well. And for example loved by everybody "Dances with Wolves" is historicaly simply disgusting

  • @enriqueperalta6059
    @enriqueperalta6059 5 місяців тому +32

    Oh man. Right at the start. Gena Davis was a known name and she had made the underated "Long Kiss Goodnight" where she played an assassin. There is a lot of context missing from this take just due to age.

    • @EmeraldCityVideo
      @EmeraldCityVideo 5 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, that was my thinking. He’s too young to remember Fletch 😂

    • @frankieffbaby
      @frankieffbaby 5 місяців тому +3

      Long kiss goodnight came out after cutthroat island

    • @enriqueperalta6059
      @enriqueperalta6059 5 місяців тому +1

      @@frankieffbaby yeah I forgot. They were just a year apart.

    • @williambryan3346
      @williambryan3346 5 місяців тому +4

      Don’t forget, Geena Davis (correct spelling) had already established herself on the big screen in The Fly (1986), Thelma & Louise (1991), and A League of Their Own (1992).

    • @shadowleon659
      @shadowleon659 4 місяці тому +1

      The Long Kiss Goodnight is easily Renny Harlin's best film to date.

  • @Maxwel_Rodrigues
    @Maxwel_Rodrigues 6 місяців тому +33

    To be fair, The 13th Warrior and The Sixth Sense share the same distributor (Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures were owned by Disney), so it was stupid to release the films on the same weekend

  • @JurassicLion2049
    @JurassicLion2049 10 місяців тому +24

    Return of the King aka The Unusual Suspect. Welcome back man. Youve always been my favorite guy on UA-cam.

  • @TheGoddamnJefe
    @TheGoddamnJefe 6 місяців тому +20

    Thelma and Louise solidified Gena Davis as a top star in the 90’s. Even before that film, she was very well known. She was a big draw at the time. Also, Frank Langella is an absolute legend. Look up his other work, he is a fantastic actor deserving of his recognition.

  • @3DSage
    @3DSage 5 місяців тому +9

    5:06 Ace Ventura, Goldeneye, Heat, Casino, Jumanji, and Toy Story! Holy cow what a crazy good year for movies!

    • @guarantweed
      @guarantweed 5 місяців тому +2

      And they wonder why movies don't make money anymore. It's not just streaming, if they put out movies like then today, people would go see them.

  • @HerrDeutschBlood
    @HerrDeutschBlood 10 місяців тому +38

    My problem with The Lone Ranger was that Tonto was pretty much the main focus of the movie and the lone ranger just took a back seat to him, which I found off putting seeing that the title suggests that we would see more of the Lone Ranger. If they really wanted people to know that the movie would be centered around Depp’s character, it probably should have been called “Lone Ranger: The Ballad of Tonto” or something.

    • @jasonblalock4429
      @jasonblalock4429 6 місяців тому +10

      Not to mention how blatantly they tried to turn Tonto into Jack Sparrow Mk II. The entire reasoning behind the movie seemed to have been "Gore Verbinski + Depp Being Weird == $$$$" because it was really atrocious casting from any other POV.

    • @frommatorav1
      @frommatorav1 5 місяців тому

      After seeing this video, an even more accurate title, "Lone Ranger: Being Tonto's Bitch"
      I was a fan of Lone Ranger as a little kid but as a 35 year old man, the previews did nothing to make me want to see it. I also didn't like Tonto being played by Johnny Depp. Add the over 2 and a half hour runtime and it was a hard pass. I missed it at the theaters and still haven't seen it. This review only validates that choice.

  • @jbwuzhere6819
    @jbwuzhere6819 5 місяців тому +14

    The 13th Warrior is an excellent adventure with slight horror overtones. Actually, THAT'S why there are so many lowly lit scenes in the movie, to maintain the advantage created by mystery (the lack of knowledge breeds fear). Banderas' character, despite being an educated man, also falls prey to the simple fear of the unknown. The film moves along quite well once the essential parties are all assembled. An underrated action saga.

    • @RonJohn63
      @RonJohn63 5 місяців тому

      Films are _VISUAL MEDIA._ Visual media requires light, so we can see it.

    • @jbwuzhere6819
      @jbwuzhere6819 5 місяців тому +1

      @@RonJohn63 profound

  • @RandomTrinidadian
    @RandomTrinidadian 6 місяців тому +22

    Motal Engines was a movie i could not take seriously at all.
    Cities hunting others cities to eat them for resources, by wasting more resources to catch them.
    I mean really?

    • @Boglinas
      @Boglinas 5 місяців тому +2

      Why are people against the idea of those cities? :D Its based of a kids book series and yes - those stupid cities are dying because they are running out of ways to survive. Its the same as question why people in zombie movies are unable to reform a decent society. Not the best example but some movie ideas should be to analyzed.

    • @OrlandoFloyd-gh2lq
      @OrlandoFloyd-gh2lq 5 місяців тому +1

      In the books it makes sense

    • @glennhubbard5008
      @glennhubbard5008 4 місяці тому

      Agreed. Weird.

  • @uselessDM
    @uselessDM 6 місяців тому +16

    Remember when they tried to make Taylor Kitsch and Armie Hammer into big action stars? Oh, and Jai Courtney as well. They tried so hard with him.

    • @taste_is_sweet
      @taste_is_sweet 5 місяців тому +1

      Armie Hammer was fantastic in Man From U.N.C.L.E, though.

  • @diogogomes3238
    @diogogomes3238 6 місяців тому +7

    Cutthroat Island and the 13th warrior are both fucking awesome, and its sad they dont make movies like that anymore. Fun action / adventure movies. 90s were full of them

  • @jasonblalock4429
    @jasonblalock4429 6 місяців тому +26

    Another issue with Lone Ranger is that it perpetuated a really annoying trend: making origin story movies about popular characters that only let them become the character at the very end. I didn't like being forced to sit through 2 hours of fluff, and then only get 20 minutes of the awesome Lone Rangering that I had paid money to see.
    Let's bring back the 90s standard where the hero is born by the end of the first act. Or better yet, in the prologue.

    • @ASpaceOstrich
      @ASpaceOstrich 5 місяців тому +3

      This is a perfect criticism of this trend. Origin stories need to tell the heroes first outing, not what created the hero. Batman starting out as Batman is interesting. Bruce Wayne before he becomes Batman is less interesting.

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 5 місяців тому

      Nah. Nothing wrong with origin stories. Wrong opinion.

    • @dante_0962
      @dante_0962 5 місяців тому +2

      @@jesseowenvillamor6348that’s not what the person talking about.

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 5 місяців тому

      @@dante_0962 Yes, it is.

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 10 місяців тому +79

    Just gonna say it, The 13th Warrior is a legit good movie. It's got solid acting, some seriously tense scenes and it's pretty awesome to watch. Especially love the scene where the vikings start out speaking more Nordic language which Ackmad can't understand, yet slowly as he starts to understand it, English is added in up until they are speaking English, showing he finally understands the language. It's simple but brillaint.

    • @Arphemius
      @Arphemius 10 місяців тому +6

      It's a fun scene, but it really makes no sense at all. You can't just learn a language in one evening by just watching people speak, you would have no frame of reference to what they're even saying.
      13th Warrior is great though.

    • @thefanwithoutaface8105
      @thefanwithoutaface8105 10 місяців тому +16

      @@Arphemius I believe the implication is that he does it gradually, over a long period of time as obviously traveling from where they were to where they were going took a while.

    • @jsurovy
      @jsurovy 9 місяців тому +11

      Agreed, 13th Warrior is a really good movie.

    • @lachazaroony
      @lachazaroony 9 місяців тому +9

      @@ArphemiusThey show it changing from day to night, weather changes etc. Its never implied he learns it overnight.

    • @bobthegrinch
      @bobthegrinch 9 місяців тому +9

      I've always liked the 13th Warrior.

  • @Ra-zor
    @Ra-zor 3 місяці тому +1

    Actually just spit my coffee out at 14:35 with your introduction to the Lone Ranger with you holding your hands up to your eyes shouting Hi-Yo Silver Away!. Caught me totally of guard, cracked me up!.

  • @bpe-music
    @bpe-music 6 місяців тому +17

    The 13th Warrior still ruled, even though it was meddled heavily.
    It would be cool if we ever got a proper John McTiernan's directors cut of it (preferably with Jerry Goldsmith's awesome score fitted in), but this is sadly a pipe dream...

    • @goukeban6197
      @goukeban6197 5 місяців тому +2

      We were so fucking spoiled in the 90s that movies that were critically panned back then would be considered refreshing gems now.

  • @frozen2golden
    @frozen2golden 5 місяців тому +9

    You don't see Geena Davis as an action star?! Have you not seen Long Kiss Goodnight?! She's the original Milla Jovovich and Angelina Jolie

  • @NewSuperAvenger
    @NewSuperAvenger 6 місяців тому +8

    Two things to mention:
    1. 13th Warrior was originally called Eaters of the Dead and was scenes were reshot by Michael Crichton himself.
    2. John Carter was originally called John Carter of Mars.

  • @thefanwithoutaface8105
    @thefanwithoutaface8105 10 місяців тому +25

    0:55 Update this to include Dial of Destiny and The Marvels,

    • @Suspect_Green
      @Suspect_Green  10 місяців тому +10

      Haha, yeah; 2023 was full of bombs. Made this a bit too early!

    • @thefanwithoutaface8105
      @thefanwithoutaface8105 10 місяців тому +7

      @@Suspect_Green Yup, 2023 had more bombs than WWII. Hell the Marvels didn't even make back it's production budget, which when you factor marketing and everything else, means the movie likely lost Disney $300 + Million.

    • @Egurius3
      @Egurius3 10 місяців тому +6

      In 2023 there was also: The Flash, Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, Shazam: Fury of the Gods. Overall superhero films flopped last year with the exception of Across the Spider-Verse. Mission Impossible 7 also flopped, which surprised me.

    • @peterfrank3365
      @peterfrank3365 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Egurius3 'Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3' was probably the only $200+ million budgeted movie that was successful in 2023.

    • @pepijn23
      @pepijn23 4 місяці тому +1

      @@thefanwithoutaface8105Make a sequel to this video.

  • @Cmatsoukis
    @Cmatsoukis 5 місяців тому +9

    13th warrior is a more realistic telling of Beowulf

  • @oobrocks
    @oobrocks 5 місяців тому +9

    I’ve read there’s tons of people that will agree with my opinion: John Carter is way above average (just short of great imo). The cast is wonderful, the story is good and we get to c where the money was spent. Unlike most critics I c a different main problem; this film’ s budget was simply way too high. The movie "John Carter," released in 2012, had an estimated production budget of around $250 million. Despite the significant investment, the film underperformed at the box office. It brought in approximately $284 million worldwide, which includes both domestic and international gross revenues.
    However, due to the high production and marketing costs, "John Carter" is considered a financial disappointment

    • @jackgilchrist
      @jackgilchrist Місяць тому +1

      I think it is a fantastic movie. It seems a lot of people disagree, given the ratings on RT and IMDb, but whatever. After the crap that's been pushed out over the last few years, maybe people ahould give it a second look. They might have a different perspective now (unfortunately it requires a rental or a sub to Disney+).
      I agree about the budget issues, though. It was a risk and it didn't pay off.
      I'm not sure how many people in 2012 even knew who Edgar Rice Burroughs is, let alone John Carter, so that might have been part of it as well. If you have an original or not widely known story, you gotta market the crap out of it, and I don't remember them doing that.

    • @oobrocks
      @oobrocks Місяць тому

      @ many people in our camp, too

  • @rnickolasjones
    @rnickolasjones 5 місяців тому +7

    And yet...John Carter still feels like a better movie than what's getting spit out from Disney in '23 and '24. Ugh. Sad.

  • @randomstranger3671
    @randomstranger3671 10 місяців тому +16

    This was one of my favorite videos from you, hope this re-upload get you great views

  • @the_mightylicker1944
    @the_mightylicker1944 10 місяців тому +4

    I remember watching this when it came out but happily watch it again, your content really enjoyable :)

  • @blupunk01
    @blupunk01 5 місяців тому +6

    Look, I know I'm probably considerably older than the average viewer of this video, but it's a little disturbing to see Matthew Modine the star of of one of the greatest war films of all time Full Metal Jacket reduced to "that guy you might remember from Stranger Things."

    • @quercusquercus532
      @quercusquercus532 5 місяців тому

      If I were placing bets, I would've guessed the Batman one. But then, I always thought the star of Full Metal Jacket was R. Lee Ermey.

  • @kuribayashi84
    @kuribayashi84 3 місяці тому +1

    _The 13th Warrior_ is a hidden gem, and I will die on the hill defending this movie.
    Knowing about its absolutely chaotic production makes me apprechiate the fact that it still turned out so well... and made me curious about John McTiernans' original, supposedly much darker, "Eaters of the Dead"-cut.

  • @SigEpBlue
    @SigEpBlue 9 місяців тому +11

    I'm surprised Heaven's Gate didn't even make the list. That's the Michael Cimino project that cost United Artists ~$40 million in 1980, which is ~$125 million in 2020.

    • @Briaaanz
      @Briaaanz 5 місяців тому +3

      But he would have to see it to review it and i think it's impossible to actually do that and stay awake the entire time

    • @Derpy1969
      @Derpy1969 5 місяців тому

      That’s the challenge!

  • @Kruhn
    @Kruhn 5 місяців тому +3

    The William Tell Overture was associated with The Lone Ranger for a long time, so using it in the Disney movie is a callback or fan service. There is also a 1980s movie The Legend of the Lone Ranger. That one was also a flop, making a little over $12 million on a budget of $18 million.

  • @LargeMick23
    @LargeMick23 9 місяців тому +32

    "How did Geena Davis get cast in an action movie... oh she was married to the director!" Yeah, who she met on the set of "The Long Kiss Goodnight" one of the best action movies of the 90's. To just say she was knobbing the director is reductive. They'd made a very good movie together and wanted to make another.

    • @georgeabrahams4076
      @georgeabrahams4076 6 місяців тому +6

      The Long Kiss Goodnight was made AFTER Cutthroat Island. He the film didn't perform as well, since Davis and Harlin's star power was hurt by that film. Shane Black literally blame it on them

    • @BrahemeDays-g5r
      @BrahemeDays-g5r 6 місяців тому

      Nah, she was banging the director. If she wasn't giving it up I bet he woulda cast a younger baby who would.

    • @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas
      @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas 5 місяців тому +4

      George is correct. Reny and Geena independently financed Long Kiss Goodnight because Cutthroat Island bombed so hard they couldn't find work.

  • @jsurovy
    @jsurovy 9 місяців тому +4

    I think John Carter (of Mars) is a really great movie. It suffers from adaptation. I highly recommend it for people who haven't seen it.

  • @System_Sega
    @System_Sega 6 місяців тому +6

    4:03 Matthew Modine from Stranger Things? I would of gone with Full Metal Jacket Myself.

    • @beejls
      @beejls 6 місяців тому

      Play younger people are more likely to know stranger things.

  • @padraigdon1657
    @padraigdon1657 10 місяців тому +5

    Nice Your back Ross since your my favourite UA-camr!
    May I suggest for future video like TV adaptations that are faithful or better like Percy Jackson, The Last of us, Reacher & maybe upcoming ATLA Netflix series that could be good? :)

  • @scottjackson1420
    @scottjackson1420 5 місяців тому +2

    I watched John Carter. Box office be damned, I was entertained.
    I think I read the first source material novel. I only read the first one of the series of Edgar Rice Burroughs books.

  • @RolandDeschain1
    @RolandDeschain1 5 місяців тому +1

    CRUSADES is one of the greatest unproduced screenplays ever.
    It would be much easier to make it today. Back then Verhoeven was set to build a big chunk of ancient Jerusalem for real, and the reported budget was around $140 million. Not to mention it was extremely violent and had many scenes of raype. In fact, from what I recall the main personality trait of the villain was that each time the story goes back to him he's ravaging some poor lass.
    That'd be the first thing taken out of the script if it were attempted today. And, quite frankly, the film would be better for its removal.

  • @MrGadfly772
    @MrGadfly772 9 місяців тому +10

    I notice that Disney was responsible for some pretty big failures.

  • @hapticflapjack
    @hapticflapjack 5 місяців тому +2

    Mortal Engines is a spectacularly good series of young adult / fantasy books - it doesn't quite work on screen but some of that spirit of the books is there.

  • @theDane70
    @theDane70 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s my first time watching your channel, great work and funny

  • @derworfnet
    @derworfnet 10 місяців тому +8

    I watched all of these movies except _The Lone Ranger_ and... I enjoyed the hell out of _John Carter,_ had a good time with _Cutthroat Island_ (even though it is pretty clunky), LOVED _The 13th Warrior_ (I'd go so far as to consider it a hidden gem)... and _Mortal Engines_ was fine - it was the Visuals and the Worldbuilding (of an admittedly batshit insane world) that did it for me.
    There is one constant through these films though: The high quality of their musical Scores. _13th Warrior_ (by Jerry Goldsmith), _John Carter_ (Michael Giacchino) and *especially* _Cutthroat Island_ (John Debney) are *amazing.*

    • @geraldmartin7703
      @geraldmartin7703 6 місяців тому

      One of my favorite scores is Goldsmith's for "Supergirl", a lesser bomb.

  • @goukeban6197
    @goukeban6197 5 місяців тому +2

    I haven't watched Cutthroat Island since I was a teen, but I remember it being a pretty fun swashbucking adventure, so it perplexes me that it flopped so hard.

  • @nopewmopan
    @nopewmopan 5 місяців тому +3

    13th Warrior is Beowulf. Original epic. Given a Michael Crichton treatment.

  • @Derpy1969
    @Derpy1969 5 місяців тому +2

    “I’ve been swimming in raw sewage. I love it.” 4:47

  • @blupunk01
    @blupunk01 5 місяців тому +2

    One other thing, you might want to look up actual box office results. The Princess Bride was not a film seen in the theater by a whole lot of "boys" or anybody else for that matter. While it didn't lose a ton of money like the movies in this video, it was generally considered a box office disappointment only earning $30.9 million against a $16 million budget (as a rule of thumb, once you factor in promotion and distribution costs, a movie needs to earn three times its base production cost to really be financially successful). It only became widely popular later on home video and cable and is not a good example of a film that got people to the theater.

  • @nopewmopan
    @nopewmopan 5 місяців тому +1

    Previous video i watched was your Ecks Vs Sever review. I notice you mentioned Battlefield Earth there and Love Ranger here. Barry Pepper can't catch a break.

  • @jamesreese7111
    @jamesreese7111 9 місяців тому +14

    Sadly, these movies are better than 95% of the movies Hollywood has made in the last 8 years, but I like a lot of movies that I know are bad. Different strokes for different folks Lol. Reny Harlin also directed Gina Davis in The long kiss goodnight. It's a really good spy thriller with Samuel L. Jackson. He said in an interview that the character Mitch from long kiss is the favorite role he's ever played and the interview was on the Tonight show with Jimmy Fallon 5 yrs ago. It's one of my favorite Christmas movies. The lone Rangers biggest problem was it treated Tonto as the main character and they got criticized for Johnny Depp playing a Native American. Great video!

  • @bocagoodtimes1460
    @bocagoodtimes1460 5 місяців тому +4

    Damn….13th Warrior was just fine……how could it have lost that much money…….what did they spend it on?

  • @StickNik
    @StickNik 10 місяців тому +4

    2:35 - I hear good things about Long Kiss Goodnight.

    • @spencerbookman2523
      @spencerbookman2523 6 місяців тому

      It's Renny Harlin's best movie, by far, and about the only one that's worth watching, IMHO.

  • @davidsavage5630
    @davidsavage5630 5 місяців тому +2

    John Carter, The Lone Ranger and Mortal Engines are all actually pretty great. Flop doesn't = bad. Not always..

  • @CSXIV
    @CSXIV 5 місяців тому +1

    I saw "The Thirteenth Warrior" in the theater and it was decent. Someone else mentioned this, but the story was intended as a realistic Beowulf, with the tribe being Grendel. It seemed like Michael Critchton was trying to do to Beowulf what Mary Renault did with Thesius in "The King Must Die."
    And I bring that up because, before seeing this movie, I had been assigned to read "The King Must Die" and immediately recognized what they were trying to do.

  • @thisithis
    @thisithis 6 місяців тому +3

    The thing with Gina Davis in Cutthroat Island is that she and the Director did a previous film with Samuel L Jackson that made money, The Long Kiss Good Night.

    • @KeyDash753
      @KeyDash753 5 місяців тому

      The Long Kiss Goodnight was released a year after Cutthroat Island. And it's awesome, leaves no doubt Geena Davis can play an action star. Shane Black script, so that helped too.

  • @superblakefilms
    @superblakefilms 10 місяців тому +1

    Loving the new format! Keep it up!!!

  • @Patryk-eddsworld
    @Patryk-eddsworld 11 днів тому +2

    Lone ranger is honestly a great movie

  • @bradentwidwell7955
    @bradentwidwell7955 7 місяців тому +5

    You do know that Renny Harlin also did Prison, Nightmare On Elm Street 4 and Deep Blue Sea. Just thought I'd help you out in that area. He's not that too terrible of a director he's had admittedly bumps in his road

  • @Maxwel_Rodrigues
    @Maxwel_Rodrigues 6 місяців тому +2

    18:30 Gore Verbinski directing a bloathed 2h30m movie with a average script? That's his filmography in a nutshell

  • @BH-98
    @BH-98 10 місяців тому +2

    Considering how many bombs their were last year I'd be interested in a sequel to this video covering films like the flash, dial of destiny, the marvels, etc.

    • @Suspect_Green
      @Suspect_Green  10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, originally I actually had more films included in the script (talking about films like Waterworld, Mars Needs Moms and Battleship). Might do a sequel to this if it does well here :)

  • @rolig9303
    @rolig9303 10 місяців тому +1

    I welcome a good reupload,
    keep em comin
    i like rewatchin!

  • @benjamincopelin3795
    @benjamincopelin3795 10 місяців тому +1

    I would love to see him revisit the topic of video game movies and talk about the most successful ones and why they resonated with people, particularly with fans.

  • @airspeedmph
    @airspeedmph 5 місяців тому +2

    I really liked The 13th Warrior, Mortal machines got me with its stunning steampunk setting, and John Carter I've been told so many times that is awful that in the end I actually enjoyed it a lot.

  • @seanrosenau2088
    @seanrosenau2088 5 місяців тому +2

    How did Gena Davis end up as the lead in an action film? Probably because she's 6 foot 2. She's a freaking amazon.

  • @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas
    @PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas 5 місяців тому +1

    Nice video but there have been at least 5 movies in the past 18 months that have lost > 200m. The Marvels, Dial of Destiny, The Flash, Lightyear, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning, Shazam 2 to name a few.

  • @jackfriend4u
    @jackfriend4u 5 місяців тому +1

    on the other hand, the trillions spent on military wear that hopefully never gets used is one situation where the best thing for it to also do is Never Bomb! Bad (or at least money losing) films rarely kill anyone, but I'd much rather have them in my world than planet destroyers!

  • @geraldohanna1209
    @geraldohanna1209 5 місяців тому +1

    Great Video, Sir

  • @donavonzerbest9530
    @donavonzerbest9530 9 місяців тому +2

    Im so glad you made the Nick Valentine joke, that was my first thought

  • @AmityvilleFan
    @AmityvilleFan 6 місяців тому +2

    13th Warrior is good for a mid-budget movie.
    That it cost that massive of a budget made me laugh when I heared it the first time, it was that shocking.

  • @thedullohanvids
    @thedullohanvids 2 місяці тому

    John Carter was also hurt by it playing on a lot of sci fi tropes that have gotten pretty old from over use if I remember. Which was really a shame because the book it is based on created a lot of them in the first place.

  • @jackdavids2723
    @jackdavids2723 17 днів тому

    to be fair, the 13th warrior is based on a historical narrative not mere fantasy, but that doesn't mean it had to be dull.

  • @josephnash2081
    @josephnash2081 9 місяців тому +12

    A Princess of Mars was published in 1912 and not 1917.

  • @KellicTiger
    @KellicTiger 6 місяців тому +1

    You need to, if you haven't already, go over the movies in the last decade that went to streaming that REALLY should have gone to the big screen. I was floored at how good Prey was and that it went direct to streaming. WTF!?!? There are plenty of other examples of movies that really should have gotten a theatrical release but didn't.

  • @ASpaceOstrich
    @ASpaceOstrich 9 місяців тому +2

    Mortal Engines is based on a book from 2001. I'm guessing they butchered it in adaptation.

  • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
    @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 6 місяців тому +2

    Cuthroat Island isn't bad to me but it's one of those movies where you can tell somethign isn't right about it and you can't really explain why. It FEELS like a late 80s/early 90s movie with how it doesn't care to be realistic and eembraces the whimsy of it but it honestly feels IMCOMPLETE. I like Gina Davis but I think the problem was it didn't have the sort of timed feeling as Pirate of the Caribean had in that the characters DID feel like they came from that time period and it played well to the movie's tone and setting. Cutthroat Island felt too stagey, like the settings were there but most of the actors still acted like they were from California in the 90s coming off a lunch break from a highend sandwhich shop. It had no spice despite having an interesting story.
    And on John Carter, there is a bit more detail on the name changes. For the Princess thing, it wasn't just a matter of boys not wanting to see it, Disney thought that adding Princess would result in people feeling bait and swtiched as they would EXPECT a Disney Princess film but instead get a sci-fi movie instead that is nothing like the brand they were building up with the Princesses. And on Mars, it was actually due to the failure of 'Mars Needs Moms' a year prior to John Carter. Disney was worried that people seeeing Mars in the title would make them think it was a sequel to that train wreck or that no movie with 'Mars' could ever work (Remember 'Mission to Mars').
    Frankly, even with the niche audience it had, Disney could have banked in on this being another Edgar Rice Burroughs book given that Tarzan was actually GROWING in popularity AFTER the movie had hit home video and the series was still in syndication. If they made it more clear they were adapting more Edgar Rice Burroughs work, they could have had something considering that while people know Tarzan, dipping their toes in his other works is worth it. Hell, I want to get into them given just how much there is and his other stories deserve some spotlight even with how popular Tarzan is as a whole.

  • @markpage9886
    @markpage9886 5 місяців тому

    John Carter was actually a direct inspiration for Superman. Siegel and Shuster made Earth the primitive backwater with the lighter gravity, instead of Mars. You hit the nail on the head when you pointed out that Carter's rip-offs are better known that the source material (See Elric vs The Witcher), making Carter appear dated and shopworn.

  • @JuliusBriggs
    @JuliusBriggs 10 місяців тому +2

    btw what do you do to make your greenscreen look sooo crisp
    it's very well done I must say

    • @Suspect_Green
      @Suspect_Green  10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks! Honestly, I feel I need improvement on the lighting (gonna work on this when I make the move to a garage which I'm renovating atm). But to remove the green, I use tools in After Effects like keylight, key cleaner and advanced spill suppressor. Sometimes I also use the refine soft matte tool. Sorry, if you don't use AE, that'll make no sense. But it's how I do it :)

    • @JuliusBriggs
      @JuliusBriggs 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Suspect_Green As I thought proper lighting is a big aspect
      AE certainly does the trick so maybe I should think about getting that down the line
      Thx mate

  • @mikeshaffer4912
    @mikeshaffer4912 4 місяці тому

    A friend of mine, Ashley, has walk on parts in the beginnings of The Lone Ranger Disney movie. She said Johnny Depp was really sweet to the rest of the cast.

  • @xppdm
    @xppdm 5 місяців тому +2

    Mortal engines is an amazing movie.

  • @aerwyna2511
    @aerwyna2511 19 днів тому

    8:55 I watched mortal engines and absolutely don’t remember this character

  • @gwenwalravens8030
    @gwenwalravens8030 5 місяців тому

    17:31 Is this the inspiration for the Rise of Skywalker? It makes sense, sorta, in the Lone Ranger because Tonto would know nature and its landscapes.

  • @sargonsblackgrandfather2072
    @sargonsblackgrandfather2072 9 місяців тому +2

    Titan AE was really good. John Carter was also really good never understood the hate it got

  • @garrick3727
    @garrick3727 4 місяці тому

    I like 13th Warrior but it shares something with the film that outcompeted it at the box office, the Sixth Sense: it only works as a film the first time you see it because the story is heavily dependent on the mystery. Once you know what is happening, repeat viewings are far worse. Another great example of this is Barton Fink. It's one of my favorite films, but it's only good the first time you see it, when you don't know what's about to happen.

  • @HolySilverStrike
    @HolySilverStrike 10 місяців тому +5

    I liked the 13th warrior. Good alright show.

  • @JP-1990
    @JP-1990 4 місяці тому

    You know what I think wouldve greatly improved The Lone Ranger?
    A warmer color pallette.

  • @anthonystrocks247
    @anthonystrocks247 6 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic video!

  • @scottjackson1420
    @scottjackson1420 5 місяців тому

    13th Warrior? My God, I saw that as a new release in the theater! I forgot it existed!

  • @pop-culturecinephile8144
    @pop-culturecinephile8144 10 місяців тому +1

    Can you talk about bad movies that were surprisingly successful? And include that some sequels were canceled but some kept coming in. An example of the sequels being canceled was the last Airbender movie.

  • @JoshtheBackwoodsStoryteller
    @JoshtheBackwoodsStoryteller 5 місяців тому +3

    I don't think the Lone Ranger was that bad. It's like, come on people; it's a Western movie! What did you expect going in? Same thing can be said about Cowboys and Aliens.

  • @pkvanderzee6226
    @pkvanderzee6226 6 місяців тому +2

    Mortal engines grossed 83.7 million against a budget of 100 million..They did not loose a 100 million but still this has to hurt financiely

    • @kaibricturner8836
      @kaibricturner8836 6 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely! But even if they made 100 million at the box office it still wouldn’t be enough to fund any future projects. They’d just make back their own budget and not a huge profit. The best way is make a high quality film with a fair and steady budget and watch it grow after its release. That way if it fails then the backlash won’t be as severe.

    • @alexc6784
      @alexc6784 6 місяців тому +2

      Production budget is only half of total budget and gross is double net so yeah, it's easily lost 100M

  • @dynaman7329
    @dynaman7329 10 місяців тому +1

    Could you do a video on early crossover films?

  • @doro626
    @doro626 5 місяців тому

    My friend, his wife and I rented 13th Warrior. They were all excited because it was based on the Grendel poem or something. I was bored to tears. The best part was when we got to teh finale, the DVD was scratched so bad the movie stopped playing. I was able to buff it out with toothpaste and save the day ( they saw enough of the ending to feel satisfied). I only remember one scene from that entire movie.

  • @jamesanthony8438
    @jamesanthony8438 5 місяців тому

    I really enjoyed "Cutthroat Island" but always hated the Mid-Western American accents. Beautiful sets, locations and costumes with a wonderful score... that let us down because no one knew how to do accents.

  • @scottjackson1420
    @scottjackson1420 5 місяців тому

    Gina Davis as an action hero is FAR from farfetched. You should watch The Long Kiss Goodnight from 1996, starring Geena and Samuel L. Jackson. Very entertaining.

  • @Power5
    @Power5 5 місяців тому +1

    John Carter was a very good movie in my opinion. It was a typical unlikely hero battles the big bad plot but enjoyable.

  • @madmark1957
    @madmark1957 5 місяців тому

    The year after Cutthroat Island Geena Davis starred in the action movie The Long Kiss Goodnight with Samuel L Jackson. The 13th Warrior was simply Beowulf reworked.

  • @PictureHouseCinema
    @PictureHouseCinema 5 місяців тому

    Cutthroat island was good enough, just came at the wrong time. We have a 35mm print in our archive. The Lone Ranger was also fun. When the train thing kicks off it's brilliant.

  • @ZeZwede
    @ZeZwede 4 місяці тому

    Always thought Cutthroat was at least an OK pirate adventure movie, unsure why it bombed so ahrd. the box office list makes it look like it had rough competition. 13th warrior i know have a lot of fans but it might be more niche for sure.

  • @georgeford3687
    @georgeford3687 5 місяців тому

    When I see Davis I always think of Dottie of League of their Own. It was only three years earlier.

  • @historygirl6732
    @historygirl6732 5 місяців тому

    I agree with your sentiments on Mortal Engines and how they bungled it by turning it into basically Star Wars by the end. The source material written by Philip Reeves is leagues better, to the point where it's kind of insulting to see how much the movie mangled the characters, plot, and themes.

  • @RolandDeschain1
    @RolandDeschain1 5 місяців тому

    I read a draft of the screenplay for THE 13TH WARRIOR and there is more in there with Buliwyf. He seems to be the main focus of the story. No doubt it would have been changed to turn the focus on Banderas.

  • @Autotrope
    @Autotrope 10 місяців тому

    Hey I used to watch your videos years ago but i think it was a different channel name. You were really good.

    • @Suspect_Green
      @Suspect_Green  10 місяців тому

      Yeah, I had to move channel recently as UA-cam demonetized it. Had a long hiatus, but I'm back making reviews; hope you stick around! :)

  • @intergalactic92
    @intergalactic92 10 місяців тому +3

    I said it the previous time you uploaded this, but I’ll say it again: I liked Mortal Engines.
    I do get why it bombed. Frankly there was no effort made in marketing it, at all, that and the book it’s adapting is fairly obscure. And it is fairly generic and confused about the setting.

    • @geraldmartin7703
      @geraldmartin7703 6 місяців тому

      "Mortal Engines" suggests it's about robots.

  • @1983aw
    @1983aw 5 місяців тому

    2:35 long kiss goodnight is amazing. So it makes since.