Did you have to connect the motor leads to the board as it shows in the instructions? I also have the ultra stryfe internals and i am kinda stuck on what to do
If you can fit this system into a stryfe, then you can turn said ultimastryfe into a perfect nerf flywheel blaster. I found an AUG kit for the strife on NF strike. It's abysmally cool. link: www.nfstrike.com/p/XSW-3D-Printing-A-UG-Appearence-Modificaton-Kit-With-XSW-Fully-Automatic-Kit-For-Nerf-Styfe-Grey-Noctilucence-Cut-Grip-Version_2481984.html
@@WalcomS7 so what you are saying is that you separeted the reving and the pusher just by not conecting it as intndended and than shoter it to the rev swich? So basicly you skipped the dual stage trigger?
Very much like my rapidstrike.. They are great in battle. High powered springer hits like a truck. These hit like a slightly smaller truck.. Or lots of trucks when on burst or full auto lol.
Bruh, an FDL-2+ electronics kit is 229. Call it 245 with filament. You're at 235 here before body kits and you do absolutely zero soldering with an FDL kit.
Completely viable if you have a printer, if you don't that gets a bit more problematic. Also way easier/cheaper on this build if you use the Stryfe like god intended and you're not some idiot doing things that shouldn't be done because they can.
That's also true, in fact the only thing I had to physically do with the Bex Blaster kit was extend the negative on the knob because I wanted it in the grip. Wiring wise it was a really easy thing, in fact if I was doing this in a Stryfe it would have been dead simple and only taken an hour or so. But I hate myself, so I make things complicated.
As the maker of the ultra cage shown here I would not expect Super high fps with the barrel it has ... the cage comes with different options. One for accuracy like this one and no Intergrated barrel for more fps
That barrel is much narrower .. to improve accuracy .. so if you remove the 3d printed barrel and REPLACE it with the "inserts" you'll get more FPS ...BUT you also added a barrel to it which hurts the FPS... It's all about what you want... if you are limited to 150 FPS .. you might as well have the barrel insert.. ALSO there is a large number of different wheels with different crushes .. that will obviously affect FPS.. and dart damage. Here is my thingi www.thingiverse.com/thing:3029346
To be fair, if you added up the hours it took you to build this blaster and paid yourself a wage for that time and then added the parts cost, would it come close to the FDL price?
It's gorgeous! And that sound, ohhh, it's glorious! And it's painted clear! Where is the 4,000 views we're looking for? I also like the "Ultamerlin" name, it has a nice ring to it.
I wonder if the flywheels would grab the darts better at high speed if you waxed them. Has anyone ever tried that? Like just a plain old emergency stick candle, and just lightly chalk the wheels
Bit late of a reply, but there's one major reason - anything adhered or attached to a flywheel that isn't part of it alone will fly off in operation. The edge of a 33mm diameter flywheel (stock) spinning at 30,000 RPM experiences around 17,000 g's of radial acceleration - anything to improve grip will have plenty of trouble staying on. It's an idea that's been explored early on (with plasti-dipping wheels, for example), and it hasn't stuck - pun intended. That said, a layer of melted foam does build-up along flywheels that does eventually boost velocity. Considering a flywheel material that just generates more friction may also be something to consider. That said, the flywheel must always at least slip a little bit relative to the dart. Much smarter people than I such as Ryan from MTB have also went over this years ago: www.dropbox.com/s/99zm16941jmui58/Flywheel%20Physics.pdf
I call mine the UltraSword. But mine is a step up from this with single trigger. (No reving required) and dual stage trigger.. mind you no ammo counter but for me they are pointless. And hay you can see through the blaster
This particular grip is designed with the Vector kit in mind, it's pretty comfortable. Way better than a vertical foregrip for my tastes, but I would have enjoyed an angled grip more.
Ok. Your “Poor Man’s FDL” claim had me incredibly curious, so I did some shopping. Here are the results: The following prices are for unassembled “kits” of blasters Your “Poor Man’s FDL” as listed and shipped (to me) costs $343.70. An actual FDL 2+ kit with mag release lever (cause I’m spoiled and fancy) shipped (again to me for consistency) costs $321.00 So.....a “Poor Man’s FDL” is actually the FDL 2+ in this comparison. The thing is, it goes further than that... In this video you brought up how difficult this blaster was to assemble in great length. Assuming that is true because you are a quite skilled modder (that isn’t sarcasm. You make great blasters. Don’t take this criticism as me trying to take that from you :) ), the average consumer looking to build a $300+ blaster would be muuuuuch better off making an FDL 2+, right? In the end, you made a great blaster, but I believe you are wrong in calling it a “Poor Man’s FDL” in every foreseeable capacity. A comparable FDL is cheaper and easier to make. The only reason yours was cheaper is because you have the privilege of being a UA-camr and getting a discount because of that.
The problem you have here is that you're completely ignoring the fact that both the Flywheel cage and the Select Fire kit will drop into a Stryfe in about an hour with about 40 minutes of that being cutting with a hobby knife and only soldering two points: the battery connectors for both drop-in kits. So you have the Stryfe, which you probably already own, the Select Fire kit, and the Brushless Setup which would cost you around 200$ in parts (135 or so for the loom and 65 or so for the kit depending on what Lightake is doing that day because their prices jump like crazy) unless you're buying one of the new Stryfes at full-retail and would be completely solid. *I* made this significantly harder by putting this into a Swordfish (which, again, isn't really that much more than a Stryfe at retail but you should already have said Stryfe) and adding the body kit stuff into the price is completely unfair as well as the FDL doesn't come with anything special cosmetically either. The main point of the video was on the fact that you can pick up the brushless setup and the select fire kit, drop it into a Stryfe (a blaster that looks infinitely better IMO than the FDL 2+/X), and get similar results (high velocity, adjustable velocity, select-fire, adjustable rate of fire, ammo counting, volt meter and alarm, more stuff I probably don't remember). In fact, this kit is apparently supposed to hit harder than an FDL but I was unable to verify that because of the problem I was having getting traction on the darts. The other point was that I'm a colossal idiot who wastes time and energy doing things that shouldn't be done because he thinks he can, and I just honestly wanted a completely unique Swordfish out there. TL:DR Use a Stryfe instead of a swordfish and the build makes more sense as a poor-mans FDL, and don't count the cosmetic furniture because it's not like the FDL includes body kits, stocks, and grips in it's pricing.
The aesthetic stuff doesn’t really add much to the price, and if we are comparing buying a Stryfe shell and a swordfish body these days it’s pretty even, but I’ll drop $10 on that too. On bare bones vs. bare bones with that into account you’ve saved maybe $20 or $30 on two blasters that are right at the $300 range. I get where you’re going, but that’s just not a “Poor mans” anything in this hobby. I’d hope we can agree on that.
Why are we not comparing this to the FDL 3? That's what I was comparing it to in this video, which is $409. The drop-in brushless kit with a V6 selectfire kit pre-wired is $230 from Bex Blasters, and you most likely already own the Stryfe it goes into which is the same form-factor of the FDL 3. You then also have access to all of the other parts that work on the Stryfe, while having similar performance and features. That was the entire point I was making about it being a poor-man's FDL. It's not the same (the FDL has more features and a much better UI than this thing ever will), but it's comparable on the field for a far cheaper build.
I didn’t compare it to anything but the 2+ because that’s the only fair gauging point of the blaster in question here. At this point you’re comparing a $230 parts kit to a completely finished and ready to go blaster, which isn’t fair to either side of this debate. I’m comparing the necessary kits to achieve finished blasters and eliminating those variables because in the end that is the only fair gauging point. With all of that now behind us, I still stand at the benefit being marginal ($20-30) and neither complete system being suitable for anyone in “Poor Man’s” status. As for performance, that would be a rather fun one to test. Do you happen to have an FDL to compare it to in a follow up video? If not I’ll go ahead and make an UltraStryfe and compare them. This whole thing was initially sparked by intrigue, and still is. I, like you, am looking for the most bang for my (and many other’s) buck.
If I could buy an FDL 3 as a kit I probably would have, I really hope that's a thing coming, until then this is the only thing I could compare it to because the FDL 2+/X is kind of an ugly duckling that isn't compatible with a whole lot and a lot of people would take this form factor and pay more over an FDL 2s design. I guess I should have been more specific and said Poor man's FDL 3, I figured it was implied. I again don't have an FDL myself, but Brett/Luke/Gloria do and I should be able to get some kind of comparison video and hopefully figure out why mine hits about the same FPS at half-speed than it does at full-speed. That being said, I've fired an FDL 2X at max velocity (I just heard the 3 has a higher velocity but Brett says it's 170 as he just unloaded the thing at full velocity into himself point blank to see how much it hurts) and this is just as much. I'm not getting the 200-220 FPS advertised by the kit, but I feel like I've done something wrong... like a stick the damned kit in the wrong blaster. Benefit compared to those as well was the rev trigger, which you can see I made sure this build had over the FDL 2 (I have been told the FDL 3 has a programmable rev trigger of some type). I will definitely compare both, as that's something the community needs to know. The UltraStryfe is the exact thing this is based off of I believe, just with the added brains from the V6 Kit to make it function similarly to an FDL.
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Up next, hopefully built-in Chronobarrel and LEDs.
Did you have to connect the motor leads to the board as it shows in the instructions?
I also have the ultra stryfe internals and i am kinda stuck on what to do
@@jakobjakobsson8126 Negative. Those were completely unused.
If you can fit this system into a stryfe, then you can turn said ultimastryfe into a perfect nerf flywheel blaster. I found an AUG kit for the strife on NF strike. It's abysmally cool.
link:
www.nfstrike.com/p/XSW-3D-Printing-A-UG-Appearence-Modificaton-Kit-With-XSW-Fully-Automatic-Kit-For-Nerf-Styfe-Grey-Noctilucence-Cut-Grip-Version_2481984.html
Can’t wait to see l.e.d’s in this monster!
@@WalcomS7 so what you are saying is that you separeted the reving and the pusher just by not conecting it as intndended and than shoter it to the rev swich?
So basicly you skipped the dual stage trigger?
OH MY WALRUS! That is amazing!
Very much like my rapidstrike.. They are great in battle. High powered springer hits like a truck. These hit like a slightly smaller truck.. Or lots of trucks when on burst or full auto lol.
I know my next flywheel build now. This is absolutely incredible.
very Drac-esq title, but this build actually earned its label. Very nice build
Your enthusiasm makes your videos fun to watch. When you have fun your viewers tend to have fun.
Bruh, an FDL-2+ electronics kit is 229. Call it 245 with filament. You're at 235 here before body kits and you do absolutely zero soldering with an FDL kit.
Completely viable if you have a printer, if you don't that gets a bit more problematic. Also way easier/cheaper on this build if you use the Stryfe like god intended and you're not some idiot doing things that shouldn't be done because they can.
There is no soldering for the drop-in kit. If you want selectfire, it is an option.
That's also true, in fact the only thing I had to physically do with the Bex Blaster kit was extend the negative on the knob because I wanted it in the grip. Wiring wise it was a really easy thing, in fact if I was doing this in a Stryfe it would have been dead simple and only taken an hour or so.
But I hate myself, so I make things complicated.
*obligitory “girls girls stop fighting your both pretty” comment*
pls lower the price of your blasters
Oooh
Call it "Man O' war"
Just to stick with the whole sealife vibe
I've been waiting for this video. I'm so excited that I'm commenting while the ad is playing.
As the maker of the ultra cage shown here I would not expect Super high fps with the barrel it has ... the cage comes with different options. One for accuracy like this one and no Intergrated barrel for more fps
Wait, if I remove the barrel I'll get higher FPS?
That barrel is much narrower .. to improve accuracy .. so if you remove the 3d printed barrel and REPLACE it with the "inserts" you'll get more FPS ...BUT you also added a barrel to it which hurts the FPS... It's all about what you want... if you are limited to 150 FPS .. you might as well have the barrel insert.. ALSO there is a large number of different wheels with different crushes .. that will obviously affect FPS.. and dart damage.
Here is my thingi
www.thingiverse.com/thing:3029346
0:06 - 0:08, it sounds like a Dyson vacuum
To be fair, if you added up the hours it took you to build this blaster and paid yourself a wage for that time and then added the parts cost, would it come close to the FDL price?
If I did this in a stryfe it would take less than an hour. To build it into the Swordfish? Whole different story.
Saw the first ten seconds and the video is already perfect.
When is the doubled up version of the swordfish coming? XD a transparent deleter with led-work would be amazeballs
The Marlin, perhaps?
I’m definitely glad I have one of these
It's gorgeous! And that sound, ohhh, it's glorious! And it's painted clear! Where is the 4,000 views we're looking for? I also like the "Ultamerlin" name, it has a nice ring to it.
that swordfish is a P90,vector and honeybadger in one whole thing
looks cooler then the Ghost Ops thing
So fricking cool. Great work Cameron!
I will not get over the amount of snap fires
I wonder if the flywheels would grab the darts better at high speed if you waxed them. Has anyone ever tried that? Like just a plain old emergency stick candle, and just lightly chalk the wheels
Bit late of a reply, but there's one major reason - anything adhered or attached to a flywheel that isn't part of it alone will fly off in operation. The edge of a 33mm diameter flywheel (stock) spinning at 30,000 RPM experiences around 17,000 g's of radial acceleration - anything to improve grip will have plenty of trouble staying on. It's an idea that's been explored early on (with plasti-dipping wheels, for example), and it hasn't stuck - pun intended.
That said, a layer of melted foam does build-up along flywheels that does eventually boost velocity. Considering a flywheel material that just generates more friction may also be something to consider.
That said, the flywheel must always at least slip a little bit relative to the dart. Much smarter people than I such as Ryan from MTB have also went over this years ago: www.dropbox.com/s/99zm16941jmui58/Flywheel%20Physics.pdf
One word.
Spectac-u-friggin-awesome.
That... that thing is spectacular, gLORIOUS, U L T I M A T E !
It was nice to see Walcom this happy.
Since it's a fish: Catch Of The Day or Holy Mackerel
The ghost Leviathan that's what you should name it
BISCUITOOO! love the hat Walcom and your videos are always entertaining!
Sir, your muzzle break is on upside-down.
i think Ghostfish is a great name
Best Swordfish build on youtube! Question though - where is the muzzle break from?
The ghost of the ultamastryfe
Anywhere else you can find this select-fire kit now? The link in the description gives me error 404 :(
This is what a walruses looks like when they cry tears of joy
You know. The movie swordfish. So hot
When I heard the reviving of the motors at the start all I thought about was Ronaldo saying “suiiiiiii”
I call mine the UltraSword. But mine is a step up from this with single trigger. (No reving required) and dual stage trigger.. mind you no ammo counter but for me they are pointless. And hay you can see through the blaster
I don't even like flywheel blasters that much, but this made me pee my pants it's so cool. (I mean this figuratively)
Well done and excellent job dude
injection molded Worker brushless cages when? I'd so buy an injection molded Rayven cage, be so much easier than most other options.
That first ten seconds made me giggle.
El Pescadito, UltimaFish, Baby Shark Doo Doo Doo Doo Do Ok Ill Stop But Seriously, El Pescadito Is A Great Name LoL.
So what happened? Is he making these cage setup or no?
TKS.
So freaking awesome...now get biggz to make clear trigger and pusher and parts lol
It's the afishionado
Sexiest swordfish on the site o.o
Maybe...Moby Stryfe?
the swordfish is basically a prophecy but its the stryfe version
Ghost Walrus for your consideration for name
What about: ‘The FD-Leter’ ^^(couldn’t resist... love the FDL though... no disrespect)
Oh crap it’s the Screamin swordfish
V6 select kit that much better than the previous kits?
Great job buddy just Awesome
My vote is for S7 Ghost-Walrus.
With how hard and fast it hits what better a name than Blitzkrieg?
I don't know if I would have went with the Vector mag well and P90 foregrip, but it doesn't look too bad.
This particular grip is designed with the Vector kit in mind, it's pretty comfortable. Way better than a vertical foregrip for my tastes, but I would have enjoyed an angled grip more.
Omg this is brutal
This is such an amazing build. Will this be your new primary?
Call it the Nerf Shark
You should name it the Cuttlefish
We need a swordfish Springer.
Worker Prophecy R
Is this your new deleter??
No, I can turn the deleter's ROF up more. That's why I'm building a second one.
Is that mmbn music in the background?
The ghost reaper
Ok. Your “Poor Man’s FDL” claim had me incredibly curious, so I did some shopping. Here are the results:
The following prices are for unassembled “kits” of blasters
Your “Poor Man’s FDL” as listed and shipped (to me) costs $343.70.
An actual FDL 2+ kit with mag release lever (cause I’m spoiled and fancy) shipped (again to me for consistency) costs $321.00
So.....a “Poor Man’s FDL” is actually the FDL 2+ in this comparison. The thing is, it goes further than that...
In this video you brought up how difficult this blaster was to assemble in great length. Assuming that is true because you are a quite skilled modder (that isn’t sarcasm. You make great blasters. Don’t take this criticism as me trying to take that from you :) ), the average consumer looking to build a $300+ blaster would be muuuuuch better off making an FDL 2+, right?
In the end, you made a great blaster, but I believe you are wrong in calling it a “Poor Man’s FDL” in every foreseeable capacity. A comparable FDL is cheaper and easier to make. The only reason yours was cheaper is because you have the privilege of being a UA-camr and getting a discount because of that.
The problem you have here is that you're completely ignoring the fact that both the Flywheel cage and the Select Fire kit will drop into a Stryfe in about an hour with about 40 minutes of that being cutting with a hobby knife and only soldering two points: the battery connectors for both drop-in kits. So you have the Stryfe, which you probably already own, the Select Fire kit, and the Brushless Setup which would cost you around 200$ in parts (135 or so for the loom and 65 or so for the kit depending on what Lightake is doing that day because their prices jump like crazy) unless you're buying one of the new Stryfes at full-retail and would be completely solid. *I* made this significantly harder by putting this into a Swordfish (which, again, isn't really that much more than a Stryfe at retail but you should already have said Stryfe) and adding the body kit stuff into the price is completely unfair as well as the FDL doesn't come with anything special cosmetically either.
The main point of the video was on the fact that you can pick up the brushless setup and the select fire kit, drop it into a Stryfe (a blaster that looks infinitely better IMO than the FDL 2+/X), and get similar results (high velocity, adjustable velocity, select-fire, adjustable rate of fire, ammo counting, volt meter and alarm, more stuff I probably don't remember). In fact, this kit is apparently supposed to hit harder than an FDL but I was unable to verify that because of the problem I was having getting traction on the darts. The other point was that I'm a colossal idiot who wastes time and energy doing things that shouldn't be done because he thinks he can, and I just honestly wanted a completely unique Swordfish out there.
TL:DR Use a Stryfe instead of a swordfish and the build makes more sense as a poor-mans FDL, and don't count the cosmetic furniture because it's not like the FDL includes body kits, stocks, and grips in it's pricing.
The aesthetic stuff doesn’t really add much to the price, and if we are comparing buying a Stryfe shell and a swordfish body these days it’s pretty even, but I’ll drop $10 on that too.
On bare bones vs. bare bones with that into account you’ve saved maybe $20 or $30 on two blasters that are right at the $300 range.
I get where you’re going, but that’s just not a “Poor mans” anything in this hobby. I’d hope we can agree on that.
Why are we not comparing this to the FDL 3? That's what I was comparing it to in this video, which is $409. The drop-in brushless kit with a V6 selectfire kit pre-wired is $230 from Bex Blasters, and you most likely already own the Stryfe it goes into which is the same form-factor of the FDL 3. You then also have access to all of the other parts that work on the Stryfe, while having similar performance and features. That was the entire point I was making about it being a poor-man's FDL. It's not the same (the FDL has more features and a much better UI than this thing ever will), but it's comparable on the field for a far cheaper build.
I didn’t compare it to anything but the 2+ because that’s the only fair gauging point of the blaster in question here.
At this point you’re comparing a $230 parts kit to a completely finished and ready to go blaster, which isn’t fair to either side of this debate.
I’m comparing the necessary kits to achieve finished blasters and eliminating those variables because in the end that is the only fair gauging point.
With all of that now behind us, I still stand at the benefit being marginal ($20-30) and neither complete system being suitable for anyone in “Poor Man’s” status.
As for performance, that would be a rather fun one to test. Do you happen to have an FDL to compare it to in a follow up video? If not I’ll go ahead and make an UltraStryfe and compare them.
This whole thing was initially sparked by intrigue, and still is. I, like you, am looking for the most bang for my (and many other’s) buck.
If I could buy an FDL 3 as a kit I probably would have, I really hope that's a thing coming, until then this is the only thing I could compare it to because the FDL 2+/X is kind of an ugly duckling that isn't compatible with a whole lot and a lot of people would take this form factor and pay more over an FDL 2s design.
I guess I should have been more specific and said Poor man's FDL 3, I figured it was implied. I again don't have an FDL myself, but Brett/Luke/Gloria do and I should be able to get some kind of comparison video and hopefully figure out why mine hits about the same FPS at half-speed than it does at full-speed. That being said, I've fired an FDL 2X at max velocity (I just heard the 3 has a higher velocity but Brett says it's 170 as he just unloaded the thing at full velocity into himself point blank to see how much it hurts) and this is just as much. I'm not getting the 200-220 FPS advertised by the kit, but I feel like I've done something wrong... like a stick the damned kit in the wrong blaster. Benefit compared to those as well was the rev trigger, which you can see I made sure this build had over the FDL 2 (I have been told the FDL 3 has a programmable rev trigger of some type).
I will definitely compare both, as that's something the community needs to know. The UltraStryfe is the exact thing this is based off of I believe, just with the added brains from the V6 Kit to make it function similarly to an FDL.
The lightsaber fish
How about Sharkbait?
OC Nerf Sharkbait! Ohh ah hah!
I've been looking for the barrel attachment, I can't find It. can you help me?
It's a custom one I got from Foamblast.
It's a jolt reskin
I'd call it The Sea Hag
Realy cool!
How much did it cost in total
Idk, just get a jolt if you want people to flinch. 99% of people flinch when you point one at them
A lot of free time and snapfires
has anyone put rubber on flywheels to get better traction
*doesn't expect to be impressed*
gaesaeki...
Make one that’s trans blue with trans orange accents like the barrel, rails, etc.
It reminds me of the vector
"Devilfish." Call it the "Devilfish."
Ultima's Ghost
This is epic, I would prefer this much more than the FDL
cool it hits at GIGGITY Err3!
Wow half a deleter :)
Marlinium Falcon
Who knew more stryfes but then agains a stryfe is awesome!!!
Splinter because Sam Fisher in splinter cell lol
I’m mad that I can’t build a brushless anything
That is an ultimate kriss vector
Dye it pink for paint job
Frickin hell
TermiNarwhal :D
Ghostfire
!name The Hollow
Specter marlin 1.0
Woah
Relax dudee
The Nerf Vector
Holly Berry
Man that thing is dope! Except that funky weird foregrip thing. That thing is ugly as f***
Frost Bane
Woh