I've had my Paragon cover for a year locking mechanism is different on mine there is no long tube or handles to pull so your rails are usable I love it those tri-fold ones with the rubber the rubber rots out and then the material itself starts to delaminat its two pieces glued together. This is one solid piece of aluminum that has bent on both sides with return bends heavy gauge aluminum. Only a couple drops of water during heavy rainstorms just like John said, awesome cover and I'm a Aircraft sheet metal fabricator.
Glad to hear it, thanks for sharing! The model shown here is our new Limited HDx design that has the updated lock rods and some other functionality like mulit-loc!
I have this exact cover on my tundra (2017)... and after 5 years I HATE it, definitely going back to a soft rolling cover. 1) it leaks water at nearly every seam. 2) the rails overhang into the bed, and you have to be super careful not to bang them up. 3) It rattles like crazy when its folded up - especially bad if you try to roll down the back window... but it does look nice, and it is semi easy to remove the folding cover.
This is what happens when UA-camrs get things for free and have to promote expensive garbage. Imo Get a soft top Gator or Tyger Tonneau cover for about $230‐$250 with no water leaks when raining or in the car wash for way cheaper.
Great video, thanks Jon! Ended up getting the Limited HDx as well for my 23’ SR5 TRD OR. Definitely think the pros outweigh the cons and would recommend the Peragon cover, especially if you need to remove the cover all the way and don’t want to drill into your truck for the cover install. I have noticed more water in the bed than I’d like, but I don’t think any tonneau will totally prevent water unless it’s a cover that goes over the edges of the bed.
Kinda surprised with how much water it let in the bed. Granted it’s not a lot overall, but one of the reasons people buy bed covers is to keep the weather out, as well as security. Years ago when I bought my old used Silverado it came with a hard lift up tonneau cover one piece and that obviously didn’t leak as it kind of wrapped the bed sides. I like the ones like here as they roll up or fold up, but I’m thinking maybe you have a warranty issue with the water being let in. Maybe the gasket/rubber on the sides of the cover? It does look great on the Tundra though that’s a fact!! Great video as usual appreciate it brotha! God bless~
Thanks. Maybe then. We will see what Peragon says. But I mean, nowhere on their site from what I see says they are water proof. Tbh is was barely any water and people are commenting like it was a flood in the bed lol. Still dryer then if I didn’t have the cover. Thanks for watching man! I appreciate
@@TRDJon oh yeah you’re right, I agree that’s not much at all and most came in when you opened the tailgate lol I don’t think any claim “weather tight”. I’d just look at that area where it’s dripping down from & see if anything looks off, probably not honestly as it’s really not much water. The right combination of rain and wind and it’s gonna get inside. Outside of those that wrap the bed and people buy the ones like this paragon because you almost can’t tell there’s a cover at all. My 15 F2FIDDY I traded on my 21 T4R ORP didn’t have any cover just the spray liner and when I’d drive off after a rain it sounded like a pool emptying with all the water leaving the bed lol this is almost nonexistent really.
@@KendrasEdge757 We do have customers that experience zero water intrusion but the cover is not designed to be 100% waterproof (no retractable cover is). The level of leaking can vary based on installation and general variances in trucks and climates but this installation look good and sets a realistic expectation of what you can expect!
I’ve had a $230 Gator X soft roll up tonneau cover on my truck the past 3 years and not a drop of water gets into the bed even at the car wash. Sure it’s not as secure as a hard tonneau but it’s done a lot better than a lot of the pricier covers out there.
@@TRDJonIt also looks great and works extremely well for the price! I'm sorry, but most us common folk will be looking for a bargain and something with great quality. I understand you have a UA-cam channel, and you get things for free. But alot of your audience wants something with great quality along with great functionality and price. You earned what you get, but please help the common folk 🙏
@@TRDJon well that and it’s affordable, it doesn’t rattle driving along, it doesn’t take up bed space since it rolls up out of the way, it’s light so doesn’t add much weight, and has held up to snow/ice, dust-storms, and 100+ degree weather. Only con is it’s not as secure as a hard tonneau so I don’t keep anything valuable in the bed.
I didn't want a soft cover. I was looking at this anyways. It is an expensive truck in the first place. So I wanted a better product on the truck. Anyone can achieve anything in like. Don't put yourself in the common folk corner for your whole life. If you want something, work hard for it.
Was going to get this initially but I preferred the lower profile on the BAKflip MX4. This is definitely cool in that you can remove it though. FYI with my BAKflip on a 5.5" bed there is zero water intrusion even in heavy rain, not even a drop. Thanks for sharing TRD JON.
Of course! No worries at all! I like that fully removable aspect because I use my truck a lot with our real estate stuff and I don’t leave items in it all the time either. I was just glad it didn’t leak at all while driving which was nice. Glad that backflip is great for ya!
@omarawas2161 wait until that MX4 starts to deteriorate and gets back all over anything it touches. Mines only a year old and ruined a hoodie and a mattress. Zero help from Bak to replace it.
@@brysonhollar Interesting, perhaps you might've gotten a defective cover? Mine still looks and works like it did when I put it on over a year ago now! No signs of wear at all on mine.
My diamond back truck bed cover is rated to haul 1600 lbs and I now have it so that it is 99.9% water proof. Paid $2200 though 😅 soooo I definitely think the Peragon is a really solid choice for most. I just wanted to keep my inner bed bone dry and still be able to haul anything on top. The decked system sounds great (In theory) but it also feels like you sacrifice a lot of useable space just for the decked system itself.
I looked into the diamond back and the overland aspect of it is awesome. Super rugged but doesn’t seem like you get a lot of access to the bed that I would prefer to have.
@@TRDJonya that is the biggest downside for sure. They did just release a new variant that I believe is called the switchback that folds up, but then you lose the very impressive 1600lb load rating. I want to say the new variant is rated for 400 lbs. also your tonneau cover is way easier to [ completely] remove if necessary
Thanks for the video! I like how easy it is to remove. Unfortunately, removing access to the bed cleats is a major drawback for me. Glad it works well for you, though
As soon as I saw you demo the removal of the cover, I immediately thought of that first con you brought up. Super slick design but yeah the cover folding downwards ruins it for me unfortunately.
For sure. That’s the cone of going down with it. Didn’t even think about it till I had something in the way. Lucky I have bed liner so boxes won’t slide
Another simple fix is an adjustable cargo bar to prevent load shift when you don't need to utilize all of the bed space or a cargo hook to pull items forward when you do. This cover was designed to be as flexible and maintain as much bed space as possible which is why we opted against a mounted canister that would reserve the space needed to retract. Definitely important to understand how you want to use your bed and what features are most important to you!
Thanks for showing this nice Tonneau bed cover that costs $1000 for the Tacoma. I think I'll be sticking with my $200 Tyger Tonneau cover for now. Appreciate the video and wish i could afford it. Great video Jon!
@TRDJon I'm actually happy with my Tonneau cover as of the past 4 years. It does everything I need and doesn't leak in rain or in the car wash, plus it looks 🔥. It's a soft top but works great for the price of $200. I'd like to see more budget friendly after-market products on your channel that are good quality and budget friendly for us regular people? Regardless, I support you and your channel. 💯
I cover everything here from budget to expensive and I have been for over 5 years. I like giving options when I can. This just so happened to be the cover I was personally looking at and then Peragon agreedeto send it out anyway as I had mentioned. So it was a win win. Are there more affordable optons? Yea, of course. Even Peragon has 3 price points too. Just wanna leave options available for people.
I haven’t had a bed cover before and was wondering how this system compares to the top of the line backflip? These are the 2 that I will be choosing from for my pro tundra, that is supposed to be here in a month. I appreciate any feedback that you guys could give me
I can’t speak for the backflip as I haven’t tried that system yet. However that being said, I’d personally choose one that retains most of my bed and also doesn’t block my window when opened.
I had one on a Ram Truck a few years ago and it literally fell apart. It had sealed bearings on the ends, they would fall off. Then when you retracted it, it would get crooked and jam up. Rattled and flopped around. It got so bad, I had to remove it. Perhaps they improved it but when I saw you twist it to remove it I had bad flashbacks.
@@TRDJon When it folds up and then you unclip the right side and then pull/twist the left side to get it out of the track. Mine would do that from the tail gate if it wasn't perfectly retracted. It would come out of the tracks. It lasted about 3 years. It was nice at the beginning but steadily began deteriorating. This was about 8 years ago, so hopefully they have improved the design and longevity. Keep up the hard work!
@NitroZ19 ahhhh gotcha. Yea that wouldn’t like the rails or something came miss aligned unfortunately. This HDx is new some maybe it answered a lot of them problems.
@NitroZ19 that is not a common problem and it sounds like you may have had a significant alignment issue. If you still have the cover our team would be happy to help you diagnose the issue!
You can drive with the cover open and should not hear very much rattling. We do recommend loosely wrapping your pull strap around the panels to secure them when driving with the cover open.
Thanks man but what would be say a common size 33 or 34 or 35 to use on an 18”? Sorry for sounding so clueless but I’m looking for the exact thing like 285/75/18 etc. hope this makes sense.
@@TRDJon thanks I'm looking right now not sure if I wanna go something like the backflip or with this paragon cover. I'm just not sure imma feel like putting this on anytime soon since the accident I was in my shoulders are jacked up and my dad doesn't have much time to help lol and the local place don't carry this brand so IDK do you still highly recommend it.
Bought my second cheapo Tyga cover on Amazon for less than $200. Just as easy and I don't care what happens to it because I can buy another one for $200... Probably 5x or more cheaper than that one
You better tie down your load from sliding forward. Instant collapse of all the panels. You can't plan things to remove the panels. You don't know when and where you might need it.
they are complete junk, take this down dude. had it on my 18, nearly got me to buy the new Sequoia. leaks like a siv and all your stuff in there that “stays dry” will rust out.
So a cardboard box with rust out? A pack of Gatorade will rust out? It all depends on how well you install it. I've had zero issues with it at all in the first month. Just calling it how it is. Sorry if you had a bad experience man.
This video convinced me not to get one! Doesn’t keep out enough water, and the way it collapses really limits what you can put in the front of the bed and it’ll prevent you from opening the cover. Huge disappointment.
Check it out here: www.peragon.com/
CODE: TRDJON15 (Good for Platinum and HDx)
I've had my Paragon cover for a year locking mechanism is different on mine there is no long tube or handles to pull so your rails are usable I love it those tri-fold ones with the rubber the rubber rots out and then the material itself starts to delaminat its two pieces glued together. This is one solid piece of aluminum that has bent on both sides with return bends heavy gauge aluminum. Only a couple drops of water during heavy rainstorms just like John said, awesome cover and I'm a Aircraft sheet metal fabricator.
Glad to hear it, thanks for sharing! The model shown here is our new Limited HDx design that has the updated lock rods and some other functionality like mulit-loc!
I have this exact cover on my tundra (2017)... and after 5 years I HATE it, definitely going back to a soft rolling cover. 1) it leaks water at nearly every seam. 2) the rails overhang into the bed, and you have to be super careful not to bang them up. 3) It rattles like crazy when its folded up - especially bad if you try to roll down the back window... but it does look nice, and it is semi easy to remove the folding cover.
Oh yea I’d bet it would rattle like crazy. That’s why I’d just take it off if I was needing my bed.
This is what happens when UA-camrs get things for free and have to promote expensive garbage. Imo Get a soft top Gator or Tyger Tonneau cover for about $230‐$250 with no water leaks when raining or in the car wash for way cheaper.
I just bought mine for our trip from Texas to Destin! 🤣 I haven’t installed it yet but looking forward to it!
Hope you enjoy it!
Great video, thanks Jon! Ended up getting the Limited HDx as well for my 23’ SR5 TRD OR. Definitely think the pros outweigh the cons and would recommend the Peragon cover, especially if you need to remove the cover all the way and don’t want to drill into your truck for the cover install. I have noticed more water in the bed than I’d like, but I don’t think any tonneau will totally prevent water unless it’s a cover that goes over the edges of the bed.
Exactly. For what the cover is and how its put into place on the rails, I feel it actually does pretty good.
Great review, I been pretty close to pull the trigger a few times but knowing now that you will loose the side raíl is a dealbreaker for me.
Glad I could help
Kinda surprised with how much water it let in the bed. Granted it’s not a lot overall, but one of the reasons people buy bed covers is to keep the weather out, as well as security. Years ago when I bought my old used Silverado it came with a hard lift up tonneau cover one piece and that obviously didn’t leak as it kind of wrapped the bed sides. I like the ones like here as they roll up or fold up, but I’m thinking maybe you have a warranty issue with the water being let in. Maybe the gasket/rubber on the sides of the cover? It does look great on the Tundra though that’s a fact!! Great video as usual appreciate it brotha!
God bless~
Thanks. Maybe then. We will see what Peragon says. But I mean, nowhere on their site from what I see says they are water proof. Tbh is was barely any water and people are commenting like it was a flood in the bed lol. Still dryer then if I didn’t have the cover.
Thanks for watching man! I appreciate
@@TRDJon oh yeah you’re right, I agree that’s not much at all and most came in when you opened the tailgate lol I don’t think any claim “weather tight”. I’d just look at that area where it’s dripping down from & see if anything looks off, probably not honestly as it’s really not much water. The right combination of rain and wind and it’s gonna get inside. Outside of those that wrap the bed and people buy the ones like this paragon because you almost can’t tell there’s a cover at all. My 15 F2FIDDY I traded on my 21 T4R ORP didn’t have any cover just the spray liner and when I’d drive off after a rain it sounded like a pool emptying with all the water leaving the bed lol this is almost nonexistent really.
@@KendrasEdge757 We do have customers that experience zero water intrusion but the cover is not designed to be 100% waterproof (no retractable cover is). The level of leaking can vary based on installation and general variances in trucks and climates but this installation look good and sets a realistic expectation of what you can expect!
I’ve had a $230 Gator X soft roll up tonneau cover on my truck the past 3 years and not a drop of water gets into the bed even at the car wash. Sure it’s not as secure as a hard tonneau but it’s done a lot better than a lot of the pricier covers out there.
I mean if water is you only concern then you can’t beat that
@@TRDJonIt also looks great and works extremely well for the price! I'm sorry, but most us common folk will be looking for a bargain and something with great quality. I understand you have a UA-cam channel, and you get things for free. But alot of your audience wants something with great quality along with great functionality and price. You earned what you get, but please help the common folk 🙏
@@TRDJon well that and it’s affordable, it doesn’t rattle driving along, it doesn’t take up bed space since it rolls up out of the way, it’s light so doesn’t add much weight, and has held up to snow/ice, dust-storms, and 100+ degree weather. Only con is it’s not as secure as a hard tonneau so I don’t keep anything valuable in the bed.
Can't beat it for the price, thats for sure.
I didn't want a soft cover. I was looking at this anyways. It is an expensive truck in the first place. So I wanted a better product on the truck. Anyone can achieve anything in like. Don't put yourself in the common folk corner for your whole life. If you want something, work hard for it.
Was going to get this initially but I preferred the lower profile on the BAKflip MX4. This is definitely cool in that you can remove it though.
FYI with my BAKflip on a 5.5" bed there is zero water intrusion even in heavy rain, not even a drop. Thanks for sharing TRD JON.
Of course! No worries at all! I like that fully removable aspect because I use my truck a lot with our real estate stuff and I don’t leave items in it all the time either. I was just glad it didn’t leak at all while driving which was nice. Glad that backflip is great for ya!
@omarawas2161 wait until that MX4 starts to deteriorate and gets back all over anything it touches. Mines only a year old and ruined a hoodie and a mattress. Zero help from Bak to replace it.
@@brysonhollar
Interesting, perhaps you might've gotten a defective cover? Mine still looks and works like it did when I put it on over a year ago now! No signs of wear at all on mine.
My diamond back truck bed cover is rated to haul 1600 lbs and I now have it so that it is 99.9% water proof. Paid $2200 though 😅 soooo I definitely think the Peragon is a really solid choice for most. I just wanted to keep my inner bed bone dry and still be able to haul anything on top. The decked system sounds great (In theory) but it also feels like you sacrifice a lot of useable space just for the decked system itself.
I looked into the diamond back and the overland aspect of it is awesome. Super rugged but doesn’t seem like you get a lot of access to the bed that I would prefer to have.
@@TRDJonya that is the biggest downside for sure. They did just release a new variant that I believe is called the switchback that folds up, but then you lose the very impressive 1600lb load rating. I want to say the new variant is rated for 400 lbs. also your tonneau cover is way easier to [ completely] remove if necessary
Thanks for the video! I like how easy it is to remove. Unfortunately, removing access to the bed cleats is a major drawback for me. Glad it works well for you, though
I have some hooks from charvonia that will work on it for me but the OEM won’t.
I have been waiting for this video, and your con's confirmed I can not used the bed rails. bummer. I like the Peragon brand the most.
I have a solution which I will show in future videos. But yes, rail tie down is gone.
For the price it would have been nice to see it completely seal the bed. Trifolds like bakflip keeps all the water out.
Yea but they aren’t all the way removable and block your window. I’d rather have a little bit of water and keep my bed since I use it with my truck
Just ordered mine im going to try to adapt it to fit with my chase racks
As soon as I saw you demo the removal of the cover, I immediately thought of that first con you brought up. Super slick design but yeah the cover folding downwards ruins it for me unfortunately.
For sure. That’s the cone of going down with it. Didn’t even think about it till I had something in the way. Lucky I have bed liner so boxes won’t slide
Another simple fix is an adjustable cargo bar to prevent load shift when you don't need to utilize all of the bed space or a cargo hook to pull items forward when you do. This cover was designed to be as flexible and maintain as much bed space as possible which is why we opted against a mounted canister that would reserve the space needed to retract. Definitely important to understand how you want to use your bed and what features are most important to you!
Who sprayed the bed liner for that truck? I can not get any company to spray one in my Tundra since it's composite. RHINO will not touch it.
had a few different tonneaus. by far, the driest (no water EVER) is - Truxedo Sentry CT Tonneau Cover
Thanks for showing this nice Tonneau bed cover that costs $1000 for the Tacoma. I think I'll be sticking with my $200 Tyger Tonneau cover for now. Appreciate the video and wish i could afford it. Great video Jon!
No worries man! Something to upgrade to in the future then!
@TRDJon I'm actually happy with my Tonneau cover as of the past 4 years. It does everything I need and doesn't leak in rain or in the car wash, plus it looks 🔥. It's a soft top but works great for the price of $200. I'd like to see more budget friendly after-market products on your channel that are good quality and budget friendly for us regular people? Regardless, I support you and your channel. 💯
I cover everything here from budget to expensive and I have been for over 5 years. I like giving options when I can. This just so happened to be the cover I was personally looking at and then Peragon agreedeto send it out anyway as I had mentioned. So it was a win win. Are there more affordable optons? Yea, of course. Even Peragon has 3 price points too. Just wanna leave options available for people.
Awesome thank you for your video, great tutorial. 🍺
No problem 👍
great video sir...any rattling on high speeds or bumps? had a retractable that rattled like a bag of spanners on the trails and it drove me nut
Not that I hear with it.
i would buy this if the flaps fold upward instead of in the bed
Thanks for the reviews
Glad you like them!
I haven’t had a bed cover before and was wondering how this system compares to the top of the line backflip? These are the 2 that I will be choosing from for my pro tundra, that is supposed to be here in a month. I appreciate any feedback that you guys could give me
I can’t speak for the backflip as I haven’t tried that system yet. However that being said, I’d personally choose one that retains most of my bed and also doesn’t block my window when opened.
Hows it work when covered with snow or ice?
Can it handle 4 feet of snow and ice without collapsing. Or is this for California and Florida residents only.
I had one on a Ram Truck a few years ago and it literally fell apart. It had sealed bearings on the ends, they would fall off. Then when you retracted it, it would get crooked and jam up. Rattled and flopped around. It got so bad, I had to remove it. Perhaps they improved it but when I saw you twist it to remove it I had bad flashbacks.
Twist to remove? Not sure what that means. But that stinks man. I’ll be doing more reviews on it over time so we will see how it holds up.
@@TRDJon When it folds up and then you unclip the right side and then pull/twist the left side to get it out of the track. Mine would do that from the tail gate if it wasn't perfectly retracted. It would come out of the tracks. It lasted about 3 years. It was nice at the beginning but steadily began deteriorating. This was about 8 years ago, so hopefully they have improved the design and longevity. Keep up the hard work!
@NitroZ19 ahhhh gotcha. Yea that wouldn’t like the rails or something came miss aligned unfortunately. This HDx is new some maybe it answered a lot of them problems.
@NitroZ19 that is not a common problem and it sounds like you may have had a significant alignment issue. If you still have the cover our team would be happy to help you diagnose the issue!
If you put something at the beginning of the bed! It doesn't close well! or does it just happen to me?
correct
@TRDJon, great product review. After hearing it open and close, how quiet was it while driving over different road conditions?
I never drove with it open as one sure that would rattle like crazy. Closed it was perfectly fine
You can drive with the cover open and should not hear very much rattling. We do recommend loosely wrapping your pull strap around the panels to secure them when driving with the cover open.
Great video. What tire size would you suggest for 18” and a 20” wheel with this same lift
35" at most honestly.
Thanks man but what would be say a common size 33 or 34 or 35 to use on an 18”? Sorry for sounding so clueless but I’m looking for the exact thing like 285/75/18 etc. hope this makes sense.
Will this gonna work with the Decked drawers system?
I don't think it will due to how that cover folds down.
@@TRDJon yea. Thats my concern. I thought maybe you had both installed. Only thing is to check by measurement.
Yea cuz like a box slid its way up front and I couldn't open it up all the way. So that is a slight con of the system
Great vid Jon
Thanks!
So Retrax or Paragon? Pick @jon 😅
I’ve never used retrax. But idk choose the option that gave me the most of my bed for utility
Hello, it sounds like thin sheet metal does it rattle while driving and can it hold weight on top of it
Not it doesn't while driving.
Where does the water go that’s sitting on the top when you open it?
It would go inside if you opened it with water on top.
Is your truck a 5.5 or 6.5
6.5
I might of missed this but did you have to do any drilling or does it go right on the factory rails?
No drilling at all.
@@TRDJon thanks I'm looking right now not sure if I wanna go something like the backflip or with this paragon cover. I'm just not sure imma feel like putting this on anytime soon since the accident I was in my shoulders are jacked up and my dad doesn't have much time to help lol and the local place don't carry this brand so IDK do you still highly recommend it.
Backflip may be a bit easier from what i've seen.
Why have a truck over a van? Im from europe and dont really have a truck culture like the US, so just curious.
Towing. Hauling. A truck in the USA is like you family car
Bought my second cheapo Tyga cover on Amazon for less than $200. Just as easy and I don't care what happens to it because I can buy another one for $200... Probably 5x or more cheaper than that one
Nice! Glad you enjoy it.
How would u compare this one to the Oem Toyota one ?
OEM has had recalls so there is that lol.
I'd probably pick this over oem.
I really don' t like the peragon, I'd rather go back to a backflip. Mostly the difficulty to open when it's loaded.
Depends on what you use your truck for. For me it’s great
You better tie down your load from sliding forward. Instant collapse of all the panels.
You can't plan things to remove the panels. You don't know when and where you might need it.
Is that the long bed ?
The 6.5’ yes
they are complete junk, take this down dude. had it on my 18, nearly got me to buy the new Sequoia. leaks like a siv and all your stuff in there that “stays dry” will rust out.
So a cardboard box with rust out? A pack of Gatorade will rust out? It all depends on how well you install it. I've had zero issues with it at all in the first month. Just calling it how it is. Sorry if you had a bad experience man.
This video convinced me not to get one! Doesn’t keep out enough water, and the way it collapses really limits what you can put in the front of the bed and it’ll prevent you from opening the cover. Huge disappointment.
Way too flimsy. A slight damage and nothing will line up.
Worst bed cover I ever bought
Care to give insight or just leave a comment with no context?
What makes you say that? It can help me if you explain why I am thinking to get one.
Still nothing huh.....lol
Best one I’ve ever had, and I’ve had every style.
He has no reason.
Do you have to open the tail gate to open the cover?
No But it helps.
I just installed mine last weekend.