Steam Deck VS Steam Controller (Hopium for Rambletan!)
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- As a trackpad-maximalist and an avid Steam Controller user, I'm very happy with the Steam Deck and hopeful for the future of Valve hardware and the inevitable Steam Controller II.
0:00 Introduction
1:42 Trackpad Precision
2:45 Pressure Sensitive Clicks
5:43 Mode Shifts
6:43 Miscellaneous Trackpad Rambling
8:19 Triggers
9:24 Bumpers
10:04 Feel and Build Quality
10:50 Back Buttons
12:25 SteamOS Controller Configurator
13:50 Default/Desktop Configurations
14:55 Importing Steam Controller Configs
15:52 Grips and How to Hold
17:55 Movement on the Left Trackpad
18:49 Capacitive Joystick Sensor
19:58 Steam Controller II
I'm slowly coming around to getting one. I still question how much I'd actually use it but I'm heading out of town next month for work so maybe... A guy at work has one so I finally was able to SEE one in the real world. It is a very nice piece of hardware.
you can't really get one anymore unless you spend a lot of money
I like the Deck controls so much I'll sometimes stream a game from my PC to the Deck while playing at my desk and use it as a normal controller.
@@44turnips Do you mean the Steam Controller? I have several of those. I'm referring to the Steam Deck.
Im dumb I thought you were talking about the steam controller not deck
I watched so much of your content when I first got my Steam Controller, so thank you! I love the Steam Deck controls. I haven't used the track pads as much as I wanted but that's because I haven't had as much time to dig into the interface and I haven't found a good game to play to utilize them. The controls feel natural to me for the most part.
It's such a shame they haven't released a v2 of the controller, I hope they do. It's a perfect companion to the Deck.
I feel like that is their goal tbh since if they just released a v2 controller before the deck then no one would be interested. They definitely waited to see how the deck would do first.
They said in interviews that they really want to make a V2
A year later and still no word sadly.
@@bland9876 Nice to know I'm not alone in this today :')
@@bland9876classic valve
8:40 In the configurator you can set a soft pull and a full pull function. That adds a haptic similar to the trackpad press and allows 2 actions from a trigger pull as well.
Yeah, I'm glad that feature is there and I've used it in some games, but having the physical feedback of a click at the end is worlds better for me and the functions I had mapped to it.
Great video. I have both the deck and controller as well. I'm excited to see more content from you if you're always going this in depth
Imo the steam controllers are amazing to use with the steam deck in docked mode. I have two and my kids use them for co-op games and honestly they're the best way to play mouse and keyboard games on the TV like Total War Warhammer 2 or Civ 6.
I hope they mak3 more because I wish to obtain one
I do this too, with the dongle it really is the best!
@@howdoichangemyprofilepictu9839 you can find steam controllers on ebay man. they're a little expensive but worth it. Also i really do think Valve will make a steam controller 2 to go with the deck and the dock.
I don't know who's idea was to put both trackpad and stick, but it was brilliant. You can easily play PC only games like Stalker, where mouse control is essential and won't work woth sticks. Yeah, it's not as comfortable as with mouse and keyboard, but still more comfortable than any other portable devices. I really enjoying it. I can aim more accurately and navigate in inventory without issues. And if you need less accurate input in games like Witcher, Elden Ring, GOW, Brutal legend, etc., you can use sticks instead. It just works. Now I want same controller for consoles. I hope Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo will notice this feature and add trackpads on their controller or make special verisons of their gamepads with trackpads.
Not to mention using gyro for aiming. Holy shit, I NEED gyro aiming if I ever want to use a controller for shooters now.
I hope they don't wait for a Steam Machine 2 to release a new controller. Docked experience will be pretty awkward if I have to maintain 2 sets of configs for every game.
You wont. Steam deck swaps everything for you. They call it controller emulation. I was seamlessly playing with the steam controller while docked and then with normal SD controls in handheld without any config. This also happens when you use other types of controllers like Xbox, PS and switch versions.
@@Minmataro718 That's nice. What happens to whatever is bound to the right stick when I'm using a Steam Controller, though?
@@Eduardo-ig6qm you have to configure it separately. The "seamless with no configuration" only works if there are official configs available for all the different controller types that you use.
If there aren't, you have to rely on community configurations (which will usually be completely inconsistent between different controllers) or configure it all yourself.
@@Eduardo-ig6qm it positions itself to the pad. works pretty well this way.
Thank you. This video has answered several questions I've had about the Deck that most reviewers don't talk about.
I really hope they make a steam controller 2. I want a steam controller now but they’re over priced on eBay. I’m hitting myself for not buying it for $5 when it was on its final sale
Best review of the Steam Deck controller and the Steam Controller. Thanks!
Very informative video. I can't wait to start using my Steam Controller with the Steam Deck as well. I'm so excited to start playing those titles I haven't played in years! I don't currently have a PC powerful enough to play most of them, so I'm really hyped to getting my Steam Deck soon!
Also, you couldn't have chosen a better game on the Steam Deck for discussing the controls. I have been wondering if Halo would run on this thing (and how the controls might work). Thrilled to see everything seems to be running great! Was just a nice bonus in your video for me.
Great breakdown. I hope to see more videos from you. I'm newish to the steam ecosystems and I have a deck and a steam controller. I appreciate the in depth analysis.
Great video - never had the steam controller, but have the SD - I actually learned some stuff from you - thanks man! I dabble in FPS gaming on the SD but never really figured out how to map the trackpad + gyro and the rest to be proficient at aiming. My current setup is fine, but I might be missing something. Perhaps you could cover this in more detail in a future video? Subscribed!
Great info, bought a deck this week
if they made a steam controller with the body of the steam deck and an integrated keyboard where the screen is, and a larger user replaceable battery and dongle holder and usb c, that would be a neat idea!
I’d be interested in seeing a video on your preferred settings for the right trackpad for best control and precision for fps games! Good stuff!
They really could just make stickers for the trackpads.
I've seen trackpad covers that still allow for full trackpad functionality so there's no reason why someone can't make a sticker that gives you the cross indent on the trackpad, one that's removable and replacable even.
Yeah that's a good idea. I haven't seen anyone make something like that yet.
I really hope they make a second steam controller with the steam deck hardware! and the tech behind the steam deck
I have very large hands and i thoroughly enjoy the placement of the touch pads on the deck theyre in a great place. I am so excited to see how valve improves their ecosystem
Having picked up a Steam Controller after getting a Steam Deck, I immediately noticed how comparatively imprecise the Steam Controller's trackpads are.
The pressure sensitivity with clicks emulated by haptics was a genius improvement, with how the click point can be adjusted in software or even how the pad pressure can be mapped as a trigger.
I am thinking of attempting to map the left pad pressure to brake, to use the left trigger as a clutch pedal and the right pad as the manual shifter in a driving sim, for when I pick up such a game that supports this.
When emulating DS games on my Deck, I hold the device sideways and use the pad as the button cluster, which works surprisingly well and feels good too.
Instead of making the pad press even softer, you can make it activate on touch, which is as light as you can get.
When I played Vintage Story on Deck I used flickstick with gyro and navigated the interface by gyro mostly.
Referring to later in the video, I use both capacitive stick tops to control the gyro and shift the input mode, the latter for making the immersive mouse mode work.
I plan to re-create this layout for playing Better than Adventure!, which is a modification which has replaced Minecraft for me, for which I host a server.
After feeling them on Steam Controller I fully agree with the removal of the duel stage triggers, having them feel like linear key-switches with a hard bottom-out now feels much better to me.
I disagree with the Steam Controller feeling cheap, it's light but quality, aside from a sharp edge near the bumpers.
I have found that my Deck's plastics do get a tad oily, but it lacking glossy surfaces help.
What makes the Deck's back buttons amazing is that they work best by pushing up and can be used as a jump or spring/sneak modifier comfortably.
To me the new Steam Input interface is a massive upgrade, but this is from learning it first and generally being able to navigate these interfaces quickly.
It lacks the clear overview but advanced settings are much easier to reach and the general lay-out makes more sense to me, opposing Nerrel's stance on it.
Now there is a way to change the default Desktop Configuration and you can use presets to set your own 'defaults' that are quick to switch to.
For me the Deck's ergonomics are near perfect after getting used to it and figuring out how to hold it.
A large part of this is letting it sit deeper in your palms and facing more forwards than you would expect from traditional controllers.
The design works but it's one of a kind so you have to ignore what you are used to from normal controllers.
Additionally, the Steam Deck can be used as a Steam Controller already, by running the Steam Link flatpak on it as a non-Steam app.
This approach is more reliable and flexible than using SteamOS's built-in steaming functionality and is how I use my Deck at my desktop.
great video, thanks!
great video thanks!
I don't have a steam deck, but I believe you can open the big picture mode in KDE, and then maybe you can set your desktop layout.
Also i believe you can open the desktop configuration page from the desktop settings menu
I've recently bought a steam controller and You almost prefecaly captured my feeling with using it so far, Also I didnt know the steam deck had those capasitive joy sticks very cool.
one thing i would like to see on a steam controller 2 are an aditional pair of bumpers (ie Flydigi Apex 2)
Digging the green!
around 14:50 you mentioned you can't change the controller configuration profile in desktop mode but you can, I changed it so the triggers are mouse clicks. not sure about in handheld mode though. great video!
What I meant was that you can't change the Desktop Config in Handheld Mode like you can do with the Steam Controller in Big Picture mode
Mode shifts do work. It took me a while to figure it out. there are some tutorials but not many. And you will still have to tinker. For many games I have to remap the alt button. Control sometimes give a problem as well. Good luck
Wow, great video. Now want to try stem deck just to feel this trackpads haptics and rich sensitive sticks. I really hope Valve realease Steam Controller 2 someday
I've had my Steam Deck for over a year now and I did not know that the trackpads were pressured sensitive like the buttons on a PlayStation 2 controller.
Perhaps a controversial opinion, but I feel like trackpads should have replaced right analog sticks years ago. First-person games have never felt good on controllers to me, no matter how many bandaids they try to throw at the problem like aim assist and such. It would also make porting mouse-heavy games to consoles much easier than it currently is.
Mapping the trackpad to a joystick that has haptic feed back can help with the positioning. It makes it feel a bit more like a directional input
Yeah I use the haptics when I map a joystick to the trackpad; for this game however I'm just using WASD on the trackpad with haptics on. It's still a bit harder to gauge the positioning of my thumb when using the pad on the Steam Deck compared to the Steam Controller because there are no physical indents like on the Steam Controller's left pad.
sounds like they combind the grip from the index controller with the touchpads from the steam controller to make a pressure sensitiv touchpad
I do miss the dual stage triggers on the steam deck because I used them a lot on the steam controller.
In FPS games that use one of the triggers for firing, I would map that trigger to only fire when I bottom out and hit the switch while the analog portion of the trigger would act like what some gaming mice have and call a "dpi clutch" to slow down the movement of the camera - so that I can flick the camera around faster, when I am NOT in a firefight, but when I am actually aiming at something, I'd have more precision.
you can map this same behavior to either half-pull or add a subcommand to fullpull that activates an action layer with lower sensitivity on the trackpad
you can mod the steam deck to have them! Someone made a 3d printed thing you install internally on the trigger that has a tactile switch, so you get that restistance and button clikc feel. Then in the steam input configurator you can emulate dual stage triggers in the software, usually this would suck as it feels very unresponsive but with the added tactile feel of the internal button you install it feels great
If you're in desktop mode Steam acts normally so you can still change the configuration but I haven't tested whether change big picture mode configuration changes the controls in game mode. Also if you do open big picture mode it opens window for some strange reason. Not like you're ever going to actually use it though.
I didn't really like the steam controller at first, but I never really played around with any custom configs. After having the steam deck for a while I'm definitely going to give it another try with what I learned using the deck. I do like the track pads on the deck and I hope if steam does a controller v2 they dont just ditch them
Yeah that's the thing, it needs to be configured. It is an amazing controller, but it isn't plug and play.
If that trackpad is anything like the one on the vive controller I would chuck that pos out the window lol
I just got one a few days ago, for FPS games it’s a no brainer if you like playing on docked mode; I’ll be honest I’ve been playing a DualShock controller on dock mode almost since I got my SD, and it’s a very decent and practical controller but IDK the steam controller just feels natural, it feels like an extension of the SD.
Wait if you use left track pad to move than what do you use the stick to?
Been using the Deck for about a month now, and I have fallen in love with the trackpads. In fact, I recently just bought a Steam controller. While I like the Steam controller, I can definitely feel a difference. I hope they make a Steam Controller v2 with the same back buttons as the Deck.
I would love a steam deck style controller.
I still bring my steam controller around in the hopes of using it more but it’s usually a high hope.
It works well with Valheim and a couple other games so far thanks to the community
I have owned my steam controller for over 5 years and think it's one of the best accessories for my pc, I remember the CAD puck mouse and rate the steam controller as just as game changing. I had no skepticism when getting my steam deck as to the control usability but I have one complaint. The L/R 3&4 buttons on the bottom back are sot suited for my hand when playing casually as in leaned back in a couch or in bed, and I used L/R 3 on the steam controller A LOT especially for driving games, so much so it took me years to play forza from the Microsoft store because I was so used to using them as shift paddles and Microsoft made it virtually impossible to use anything but an Xbox controller, So I just didn't play it until someone gifted me an Xbox controller, but that is a testament to the awesomeness of the steam controller. Alas, I can't use them as easily on the deck, maybe if I sit rigid all serious like, but if I want to do that I go sit at my desk. For me to hit those buttons comfortably I have to use a claw grip on the sides and I'm supporting the thing by its side edge in the middle of my hand so my thumb and fingers can move freely and it just feels awkward and lacks support, I get they had to find a middle ground with hand size and portability, and my hand size isn't middle ground I guess. Still love my Steam Deck but that one little thing dictates that I can't really play driving games on it natively without an external controller.
I'm another Steam Controller power user who has had the Deck for a while now. I still VASTLY prefer the Steam Controller over Neptune (the name of the built in controller on the Deck)... for many reasons. I'll not list them all though, to prevent this being an essay.
Suffice to say, I view Neptune as being several steps backwards from the Steam Controller in controller design as concessions for normies. Thats not an inherently bad thing and I do think that its better than the sony layout, but as an enthusiast who wants the unadulterated "dual trackpads as primary inputs" experience the Steam Controller remains king. I'd very much rather prop up the Deck on a table and bluetooth my sc to it versus using Neptune.
All the Deck has really done for me is confirm I still really want to see a SC v2 that retains the layout of v1 (the nice large round pads in their proper locations; the dual stage triggers) but has 2 more grip buttons that *squeeze* to activate and *NOT* push in to activate (I highly disagree with the Decks back buttons being objectively better) as well as all the under the hood tech spec improvements (newer higher specced gyro and trackpads, force sensing on the pads instead of the physical click, higher polling rate, capsense for the SINGLE left stick). Basically an actual v2 with improvements, not a full on re-imagining like the Neptune.
That's a good point about the squeeze vs push activation about the back buttons, I like both but I suppose that just comes down to preference.
I would love to see a proper trackpad-focused Steam Controller II from Valve, but I do think it's less likely than a controller that has perfect feature parity with the Deck- though making it affordable and comfortable to use with your hands closer together would be a challenge so who knows. A controller with swappable parts would be neat.
I wish Steam Controller fans were a large enough voice for Valve or a third party company to cater to and create another proper controller, but I'm just glad I like the Deck's controls and that the pads are fine for me.
What do you mean by the back buttons are better? Sure there's two more but they're clearly worse. With the controller they're really easy to click wherever you want to click them from right at the very edge to just off the very center of the back but with the deck it's significantly more difficult to click them on the edge to the point where I've made a concious effort to change where I press them. I've seen several other people make this complain about the decks back buttons as well they're just not as well positioned to lever onto the actual button making it a lot easier just to press over the button rather than use the paddles.
I just press them on the backplate instead of the grips and they're perfect
@@fapman4878 Yeah that works, it's just a little disapointing that it dosn't work anywhere on the paddles like with the controller.
Sorry to hear that. My experience with them has only been positive; it probably just comes down to our different hands and different grips.
@@TheAkashicTraveller FYI the French guy at valve (Pierre loupe) said in a interview that that was intentional to avoid accidental clicks while holding onto the grips, it takes some getting used to pressing with your finger tips but it works nicely for me.
You actually can change the desktop configuration, you just need to open Steam and edit the desktop configuration through Big Picture Mode as you would on PC.
Editing the BPM controls unfortunately doesn't change the Gaming Model setup as I would've loved to edit them to have the trackpad be a touch type dpad.
Good point; it's a bit of a hack but I'm glad it's possible. Hopefully Valve will make a way to configure it from the default Steam OS interface.
You don't have to put it in big picture mode, you just open Steam in desktop mode, go into controller settings, and desktop configuration is an option 👍
How'd you pair this to the deck?
you can mod your steam deck to have dual stage triggers BTW!!! There's a 3d printed thing someone have done that adds a tactile switch at the bottom of the trigger press. It does nothing of course beyond adding a point of resistance and a tactile feel, but in the software you can "emulate" dual stage triggers, it just sucks since there's not feedback, which is fixed by the mod
is playing fps games on the deck easier without the gyro a better experince than other handhelds?
Very underrated Hardware!
I am VERY impressed with the Steam Deck's trackpads, not ever having used a Steam Controller (or any other good trackpads really). On the first day I booted into desktop mode while installing games and was amazed at how precise I could be, while also being able to flick the mouse to anywhere I wanted with the trackball mode. I had heard of the trackball mode but never expected it to work so well and intuitively.
On the second day I set up Dota 2 with Steam Input, and I didn't even touch the mouse control, I left the trackpad on the default settings (the same as in desktop) because it works so well by default.
On the third day I set up some FPS games, starting with easy ones like HL2. Again, I was floored the second I started using the trackpad. I quickly changed some settings to make it work better for me (disabled trackball mode, enabled acceleration high, raised the sensitivity in general) and within minutes I was doing precise flicks onto targets. In an hour I was already better at aiming with the trackpad, than I am with joysticks after months of practice. Absolutely unbelievable!
I then went hardcore and tried TF2 and Quake Live. It was more to test movement than aim, since you need to be able to rocket jump in both and strafe-jump in Quake. Quake was surprisingly easy to convert to Steam Deck, all I really had to change was use the DPad (bound to WASD) for movement instead of the joystick (strafe-jumping is a lot harder with the joystick). TF2 was another story and I eventually resorted to using the joystick with a really high sensitivity for rocket jumping and the trackpad for normal aiming, which I think is still a testament to the versatility the Steam Deck offers you. All the extra inputs it has over the Steam Controller definitely come in handy in more complex games. I wouldn't have been able to set up TF2 like this on the SC since it doesn't have a second joystick on the right. And don't even get me started on Dota 2 - I created a monster config with basically everything mapped, including basically useless fluff... not a single input was left unused.
The only input which I don't use is the gyro I guess, since I find it a bit hard to use on a handheld where the screen is attached to the controller (makes seeing the screen a bit hard and disorienting when you're tilting it all over the place). But I guess the fact that I can use the trackpad WITHOUT help from the gyro is just another testament to how good it is.
Valve really knocked it out of the park with the Steam Deck, especially the comfort and ergonomics, and the abundance and variety of inputs (I was even impressed with the screen after preparing for the worst). I really hope they never pander to the normie masses and get rid of the trackpads on future Steam Decks for size and weight reductions, because I'll go into a rage and 911 Valve HQ.
Your point about gyro is true for sure. It is a bit awkward on a handheld, but on a separate controller like a steam controller, gyro is amazing.
The square track-pads bother me. Seeing the prototypes with big beautiful round trackpads breaks my heart.
Yeah me too, it's a retrograde step. Let's hope Steam Controller II is announced soon, I'll be playing docked a lot.
I thought they would bother me too but once I tried it it didn't matter to me so much.
In those positions it wouldn’t make sense to have circle ones, the guys at valve wanted to maximize the usable space basically and square is the ideal shape to achieve that.
I've been playing with my Steam deck but I haven't actually played any first person shooters so I can't really say yet.
From the few times of messed around with the trackpad it seems like it's too easy to accidentally press it.
Why vavle won't add keyboard to make it like a laptop which like win max 2 did
for the next controller they should replace the 4 buttons on the front the xyab with a joystick so we have two then put the buttons around so between the joysticks one up and one down and one to each side of the joysticks then allso another set of buttons on the back of the controller like it is on the steam deck
I hope they make a Microsoft Duke of controllers for the steam controller 2. I want every single aspect of the steam decks controls to be mirrored onto the new version, same layout and buttons. Basically a steam deck without a screen and computer with a Bluetooth controller function. With one addition, either adaptive triggers like Dual Sense or dual stage triggers like the Steam Controller 1. That's my wishlist.
Edit: I wouldn't even mind if they added volume buttons lol. That would be a legendary feature that no one else would think of.
Agreed. That plus a headphone jack for voicechat like on the Xbox One controller.
whenever ineeded a click and drag action i would enable the gyro while click is maintained therefore i drag by moving my controller
Battery life was on another level with the steam controller.
You can actually change the desktop configuration. You just have to open up steam on desktop and go to controller settings and then desktop controls. I don't think you can do it for game mode menus but at least the desktop can be made better
For me personally the steam deck trackpads have an uncomfortable position. When I use it for more than 20 minutes my hand starts hurting. I like using the trackpad way more than the stick for a lot of games but the position is just too awkward. I don't have a steam controller but I really wanna try one to see if that's better.
I wish the trackpad and stick were switched on the SD.
The problem with the double click triggers is for most games, that is not useful and may present a problem with accidental clicking plus, is a thing that could go bad inside of the controller over time faster than the other options. Though many people would be okay with buying the replacement, opening up their steam deck, and fixing it; valve wanted to sell the steam deck to everyone from casual gamers to pc gamers with thousands of dollars spent on their steam accounts. From a business stand point the steam controller sold abysmally, with valve having to sell of their supply for 5 dollars because of how bad it sold. Also valve did get sued because of some of the functions so maybe they just wanted to forget some things. .
Its nice to hear some love for steam controller. As a couch pc gamer. Steam controller makes perfect sense. Maybe I can still find one...
Can’t wait for Valve to release a new Steam Controller. They have such room for improvements in a next gen Steam controller. And the fact that the price of controllers has sky rocketed, there’s now a market for advanced controllers like this.
As stated in the video just remove the screen and connect the two halfs together for the Steam Controller version 2.0.
out a skin on those pads, mine already getting shiny spot like a laptop track pad does
The only real annoying thing is that if you want to play the same game docked and undocked you have to keep changing the sensitivity cuz the pads are different.
Did you painted the green part? Looks neat 😮
Yeah, I spray painted the glossy parts of the controller. I'm gonna do it with my other Steam Controllers too and have a full set of multi-colored ones
@@jdedwards9208dude im about to buy one next weekend, you should do a video painting one so we could try it as well; do you use a special kind of spray? It looks sick
Cam you try to upload gameplay of you gaming with the steam deck using the trackpads ?. No one is really doing this well, they all use very low sensitivity and don't do it well.
i still have mine .. i play left 4 dead 2 with it for fun.. an how i can use my controller it self like crosshair is the coolest thing they ever did ...then i play call of duty world of war with it an my god i got so emerged cause once again i get to use the whole controller like a real gun or crosshair.. i really dont understand why so many people downed it.. but from what i see its actually one of the best controllers ever made... if you really see what you can do with it youll see what im talking about ..
I need them to make another version of the steam controller, maybe with a dpad, because Its my only gripe.
Does the Steam Deck have WiFi-Direct?
Im just waiting for a steam controller v2, at this point i really love the controller, but i have fait it will arrive sooner than later
thanks to UA-cam recommendation, I get to see the rare Steam controller fan, what the hell. It's not a good controller but the innovation is there, I guess.
I want a Steam Controller 2 :(
Can i connect a steam controller to a steam deck without the usb dongle ?
Yep, the Steam Controller has bluetooth
Wait.... the steam controller has gyro??? lol I've had two since day one and never knew 🤣
I have 3 of them, 1 of them is broken. If they released a new version I would buy it without question.
I'm gonna get this controller I'm sick of Stick
I'm gonna test this controller on Apex Legends but it's gonna take me awhile to figure out configuration
I'm same way with steam controller since they got rid of steam controller I would hope they stick with track pads I believe these the best things that could happen.
This paired with gyro controls would be perfect
someone send this video to valve!!!
I want a steam controller 2 that's just a steam deck with rumble and no screen. Also make the touchpads 16:10 instead of square.
imagine connecting the decks and playing in lag. that would be insane
Is that you Nerrel?
I know it’s you cause of your voice
the trackpad looks like something mobile fps pros would like
non superfisual reviews like this is a far cry on utube
Sucks they where sold out when I try to buy them for 5😅
It’s just conect and play?
Yeah, the Steam Controller has Bluetooth
i have my steam controller on the coffee table in front of me right now, they were difficult to get in Australia and now the deck even more so. valve hates the ATO after that tax dispute so we are shunned !
i don't really want a deck anyway i have a GPD win mini the top spec one, but i would like a steam controller version 2 in the deck layout with two sticks two pads.
i think people would buy that !
Whats gonna happen when it breaks?
When the Steam Controller breaks? I've got a couple backups for now. One of them makes a cameo appearance at 9:43
@@jdedwards9208 oh ok cool.. I hope they make a version 2 for you. So stupid about the law suit thing.
@@BTMaverick707 sadly valve never revisit their hardware projects
The only thing i dont like the steam deck is the buttons in the right, i wish the trackpad was on the top instead on the middle, my finger hurts after 30 mins of playing fps, and i used to play pubg mobile on phones
It would be cool if we could just use the deck as a controller, and boom, steam controller 2.
but I think right now the only way is through steam link, wich ads latency and stuff. That's a shame.
I wish trackpads would click with me but they just don't. is something genetically wrong with me?
Hmm yeah maybe you should get your DNA sequenced. In the middle ages the Finnish people had a hard time using the Steam Controller.
woah somewone actually made the steam controller sexy
They need to make the Steam Deck without the Screen and the powerful AMD components
Why Steam controller die? I thought this controller is very good for gpd win max 2
I know that trackpads are superior to sticks in just about every FPS game, EXCEPT Halo MCC.
The aim assist you get with a gamepad in that game is basically aimbot and you'd be crazy not to abuse that.
Yeah that's true.
Welp guess im getting a steam controller
If you can still find one.
Best of luck to ya though.
No matter what I do I just can’t get used to the steam controller. It’s a struggle finding something for each game. Other than games like wasteland 3 I just can’t get it right
i own a steamdeck and legion go i gjust need to buy a steam controller yes yes i gave a LCS
They should remove the screen and computer inside and sell Steam Deck as a controller
I WOULD LIKE FOR. YOU TO SEND ME YOUR STEAM DECK TO TEST IT OUT FOR A WEEK THANK YOU 🤠☺️
why would he do that?
I gotcha, send me your address
@@shishsquared could I borrow it next
Yeah, good luck playing fortnite or cod on it, it's the same as playing on laptop trackpad
I've played Fortnite with the Steam Controller and it's perfectly fine; just as good as using a mouse. It's a lot better than using a laptop trackpad because of its trackball emulation and gyroscope.
Lol it's not even close