Love it when you do these test. Truly let’s me make an educated decision. Since most of us do not have a way to test them like this you doing this and letting us know is greatly appreciated. Plus I do find it interesting watching it. Thank you! ❤
Thank you so much for doing this. I’m new in freeze drying. I would like to make it a business eventually but boy finding the right company to buy wholesale Mylar bags is like whisking to win the lottery without even playing. So thank you so much once again
Great info!! I have tried to find this kind of test results so I can make the best possible choice for mylar bag purchases and never found a thing. This is so helpful. Thank you very much for all your efforts to perform these tests!
Thanks for the continued research, Phil -- awesome work. FWIW, I have long used packfreshusa and have found the 5mil work fine for items without sharp points, 7mil handles everything with no problems. Sharp points, for me, come from items such as pulled/shredded pork, loose pasta, or packaging corners. I have also encountered a roughly 5-7% defective rate in the 5mil bags (meaning with no sharp points or no particular reason, they will not hold a vacuum) apparently due to defective bag material. I encountered basically 0% defective rate with the 7mil bags. I totally switched over to the 7mil bags for the reasons above. One other note: when I vacuum product that is in a container with sharp corners (i.e., a small stiff cardboard box of some sort), I simply round the corners by slightly mashing the corners in on a desk top. This has solved any related puncture problems.
Hubby and I are catching up on your videos. Your inquiring, scientific mind is a treasure! Really happy to see your results as we had just received a large order of bags from Distribution Services. We were tempted to pat ourselves on the back for ordering them but knew we'd probably injure something and that we'd better save our joints and muscles for loading the freeze dryer. 😁 This info is especially pertinent since our Jan/Feb goal is to FD meats and eggs for long-term storage. (Nov/Dec was spent fulfilling requests from friends & family for holiday treats. Gained some new ideas/strategies doing so.) THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!
Wow! Thank you Mr. Phil for taking of your time and doing this test, and giving us the knowlage to make the right and educated decision, much appreciated. The 3 in 1 test was a real treat, i could not imagen the results using the 7.5 mil Mylar film in the 3 in 1 test, my guess over 26,000 grams.🤪. Once again Thank for you work.
I am brand new to FD with a new machine just sitting here waiting for me to figure out where to start and I'm about to place my first order that is over $650 worth sitting in my cart right now. And then while trying to swallow a cost like that I found your videos! I’m wondering if I should just wait for your test… we are excited to try the new FD but not sure we should do anything now until we first ensure the bags are tested by you. These videos are awesome! Thank you!!!
QUESTION: We've been using Distribution Services bags for our long-term storage (meats, eggs, main dishes) but have had problems with the bags sticking to our impulse sealer and needed to replace the fabric insert. We tried reducing the sealer setting down from Harvest Right's recommendation for their bags (8 --> 7 ) but still experienced some sticking of the bags to the impulse sealer's fabric which caused tiny unsealed gaps in the seal line. We actually had to quickly re-bag/seal in Harvest Right bags to save the contents of 4 trays of chicken/rice/veggie soup. The width of the Distribution Services bags, although wide, fits in the impulse sealer. It seems as though the problem stems from the compounds used to fabricate these heavy duty bags and what heat temp/duration is needed. Your input will be appreciated! THANKS!
Those bags are good, but are about the same width as the sealer and makes it more difficult to seal. I too have had them stick to the Teflon fabric. Try turning down the heat and holding the bar down a few seconds longer to allow the material to cool before raising the sealer's bar. A good seal should show the imprint of the fabric across the bag. Like me, it may be time to replace the Teflon fabric on my sealer.
You would need to adhesive all the Mylar layers together for it to work properly. I am sure the cost would be prohibitive... There are companies out there that manufacture genuine Mylar bags.
Love it when you do these test. Truly let’s me make an educated decision. Since most of us do not have a way to test them like this you doing this and letting us know is greatly appreciated. Plus I do find it interesting watching it. Thank you! ❤
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Thanks! Another great piece of research for us all!
Thank you so much for doing this. I’m new in freeze drying. I would like to make it a business eventually but boy finding the right company to buy wholesale Mylar bags is like whisking to win the lottery without even playing. So thank you so much once again
There's a lot of good and bad product out there.
Great info!! I have tried to find this kind of test results so I can make the best possible choice for mylar bag purchases and never found a thing. This is so helpful. Thank you very much for all your efforts to perform these tests!
Hope it's helpful
Such a great test to do and share with us. Cool tools!
Tools comes with age
You’ve got some of the best and know how to use them!
@@Philat4800feet My X was a reliability engineer and he never had "cool tools". He wasn't that handy either! LOL
@@pacearrow4620 My son-in-law was a NASA engineer and couldn't change his oil.
Excellent. Thank you for this video.
Thanks Phil, superb information we can all use!
Glad it was helpful
So informative. Thank you so much
Phil you are providing this community with a great service, I appreciate your research, knowledge and humor please keep it up.
More to come
I am very grateful for these tests - very informative. Thank you!!
Thanks for the continued research, Phil -- awesome work. FWIW, I have long used packfreshusa and have found the 5mil work fine for items without sharp points, 7mil handles everything with no problems. Sharp points, for me, come from items such as pulled/shredded pork, loose pasta, or packaging corners. I have also encountered a roughly 5-7% defective rate in the 5mil bags (meaning with no sharp points or no particular reason, they will not hold a vacuum) apparently due to defective bag material. I encountered basically 0% defective rate with the 7mil bags. I totally switched over to the 7mil bags for the reasons above. One other note: when I vacuum product that is in a container with sharp corners (i.e., a small stiff cardboard box of some sort), I simply round the corners by slightly mashing the corners in on a desk top. This has solved any related puncture problems.
Agreed. Good information.
06:08 - Puncture results of different brands/bags
08:37 - Results from other materials
Hubby and I are catching up on your videos. Your inquiring, scientific mind is a treasure! Really happy to see your results as we had just received a large order of bags from Distribution Services. We were tempted to pat ourselves on the back for ordering them but knew we'd probably injure something and that we'd better save our joints and muscles for loading the freeze dryer. 😁
This info is especially pertinent since our Jan/Feb goal is to FD meats and eggs for long-term storage. (Nov/Dec was spent fulfilling requests from friends & family for holiday treats. Gained some new ideas/strategies doing so.) THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!
I just wish Distribution Services' bags were a little more narrow.
Great info
Wow! Thank you Mr. Phil for taking of your time and doing this test, and giving us the knowlage to make the right and educated decision, much appreciated. The 3 in 1 test was a real treat, i could not imagen the results using the 7.5 mil Mylar film in the 3 in 1 test, my guess over 26,000 grams.🤪. Once again Thank for you work.
Kind words
Excellent! TY
I am loving all your videos! Very helpful. Can you tell me if you will be testing PackFreshUSA bags and oxygen absorbers?
Soon
I am brand new to FD with a new machine just sitting here waiting for me to figure out where to start and I'm about to place my first order that is over $650 worth sitting in my cart right now. And then while trying to swallow a cost like that I found your videos! I’m wondering if I should just wait for your test… we are excited to try the new FD but not sure we should do anything now until we first ensure the bags are tested by you. These videos are awesome! Thank you!!!
@@pamelamerrell2045 If you watch the Walmart video, towards the end, I compare several suppliers against each other.
QUESTION: We've been using Distribution Services bags for our long-term storage (meats, eggs, main dishes) but have had problems with the bags sticking to our impulse sealer and needed to replace the fabric insert. We tried reducing the sealer setting down from Harvest Right's recommendation for their bags (8 --> 7 ) but still experienced some sticking of the bags to the impulse sealer's fabric which caused tiny unsealed gaps in the seal line.
We actually had to quickly re-bag/seal in Harvest Right bags to save the contents of 4 trays of chicken/rice/veggie soup. The width of the Distribution Services bags, although wide, fits in the impulse sealer. It seems as though the problem stems from the compounds used to fabricate these heavy duty bags and what heat temp/duration is needed. Your input will be appreciated! THANKS!
Those bags are good, but are about the same width as the sealer and makes it more difficult to seal. I too have had them stick to the Teflon fabric. Try turning down the heat and holding the bar down a few seconds longer to allow the material to cool before raising the sealer's bar. A good seal should show the imprint of the fabric across the bag. Like me, it may be time to replace the Teflon fabric on my sealer.
What would you choose discount mylar or pack fresh
The cheaper of the two at current pricing and shipping.
Where does one purchase the DuPont Mylar material? Can one use the material to make their own bags? How does it rank in price?
You would need to adhesive all the Mylar layers together for it to work properly. I am sure the cost would be prohibitive... There are companies out there that manufacture genuine Mylar bags.
Agreed. The current bags on the market work well. They just shouldn't call it Mylar. A good polyester bags would be fine.
Don't buy from Wal-Mart. More to come.
@@Philat4800feet Thank you and look forward to hearing about your findings.
Is it ok to buy used food grade buckets and clean them very throughly and reused them to put mylar bags in
I don't see any problem with that.
Any one have recommendations on gusseted mylar bags vs non gusseted
Either way. In my burst testing it doesn't make a difference.