KTM 790 Adventure R - 2019 - Test Ride and Review
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2019
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Finally, I had the chance to ride the new KTM 790 Adventure R. Unfortunately during my test ride the microphone of my helmet camera stop working in some stage, but at least I have some audio. I have to confess that KTM did a really good job with this model. It is powerful, light, aggressive, and probably ready to race as they said. The engine provides 95 H.P which is more than enough for travel, commute, dirt roads, or just for fun. The petrol tank is 20 l and the consumption is about 5 l per 100 km. With a few words, it is a great machine and I am sure it will bring many smiles to the new owner's faces. I personally do not really like the design. The power is way more than I need and the price is just too high. Reliability is still an issue, so I prefer to stay away from the brand. So my opinion is that it is a great bike to ride, but not to own and travel the world.
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Pavlin , you have my full respect for your honesty and integrity !
The only one I have!
I tested the 790 S, found it very fun to ride, was very close to buy it, and finally bought an Africa Twin standard with mechanical gearbox. I did not consider testing the R version, and I will probably never ask to test the new Africa Twin Adventure sports. I am 1m76 and I feel both the 790 R and the A.T Adventure Sports are too high for me. I could manage the extra high of those bikes on tarmac and without load, but please think what the situation will be with full load. Whatever you do, the cargo will higher the center of gravity. In both cases, KTM 790 and Africa Twin, I find the the cheaper versions (S and the standard A.T. respectively) better values for the money if the majority of the travel is on paved roads. Still they can pass sections of rugged trails if necessary.
The 790 S has the same engine and brakes as the R, it has a higher screen, it has rally mode if you want it, it has normal front fender, and it costs less.It has not the adjustable fork, but still the fork has good quality damping. I preferred to buy the A.T. because I found the KTM less stable than the A.T. (I experienced shimmy when I had to suddenly cut off the throttle in a bend), the engine is much less supple at low revs, which is bad on rainy days. I am just back from a 4200km summer tour 2-up with my wife from France to Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina and I will not say that the A.T. is the perfect touring bike, it is not. But at least it did the job acceptably. I will never spend the extra money to get the adventure sports, taller, heavier. In Europe at least, nobody really needs the extra fuel range of the bigger tank.
Then, all in all, I fully understand the opinion of Pavlin on the 790R and he must be thanked for his video. It makes sense to make a difference between real travel and the idyllic enduro-style kind of marketing advertised by KTM. This being said, if one likes this one surely can go for this KTM, wy not ? The sun shines for everybody, but better to know in advance what to expect.
I have one R and I have not issues at all doing 190 with those tires. No vibrations at all.
Thanks for the review.
A complete essential review from a rider to the riders around the world. Aha... 'Ready to Race'. Thanks Pavlin.
Thanks!
Hi, thank you for your always honest reviews. For this one would like to remind you a fact that I noticed on your video:
The R version you rode, apparently does not have the “standart” adjustable r suspension which have 24 cm of absorbing range/height but it has the 27 cm! “xtra something” wp shocks, which supposedly make what you rode even higher and installed but maybe not geometrically adjusted yet?
I wonder though, the extra r suspension how did you felt comfort wise compared to the s version?
Thanks a lot🖖
Another exallent video, it is nice to hear honest review from an experienced every day rider that has many years and mile under his belt not just trying to sell the brand. I fully respect and take your opinion into consideration as i am as well shopping for a new bike. Thank you
You are welcome anytime!
As always, Very nice video Pavlin. Would be great if you could find time/chance to review the standard version of 790 Adventure, since they claim it to be more road focussed. Thanks in anticipation.
I might do it later in the year.
Great content and a cool review mate👍
That’s motorcycle passion
Thanks!
Good job for testing ! Since this is an off road bike I really wanted to see you riding on dirt road. Your impression for dirt road and data for dirt road. This is very important. Maybe next time. Thank you.
Thanks Pavlin, I just bought one only paid 11,002 years old but like new. Your advice it’s good that the bike is not stable over 140 km/h. I really do beyond that anyway and if I want to go faster than that I would buy a sports bike.
I do find the engine very good but very noisy at idle as it does not seem very refined but it does work well. The stock seat is very hard for me to bikes a bit tall. I think most people will change the seat to a more comfortable one. I like the seat cover so I am going to cut out the form and put in softer foam for myself. When are you coming back to Ireland?
Honest and to the point. Thanks for the review on this great looking bike
Thanks Geoff!
Great and honest review. Is 690 enduro r a better travel / adventure bike, when you put long miles. I have seen your review on the 701. However, I am still undivided 790!or 690. In term of price, handling and reliability.
The "shaking effect" is for the tyres...I had Karoo3's on my Vstrom and it was the same. 140km/h maximum speed. Great review and great motorcycle!
Could be. I haven't his on my bike TKC 80.
@@motorcycleadventures I think is because of the front tire pattern. Is completely the opposite in comparison of the rear tire....if you look at it seems that the front tire is mounted upside down....
Same experience, requires higher pressure to settle the speed wobble on my Huskie Terra
More likely to be the wheel size and massive mudguard.
I have similar tires on my vstrom, they're limited to 90 mph, about 140 kph. Although I have to say I've had them up there a couple times, and they felt pretty stable. Pavlin makes a good point about the high front fender, I could see that causing an issue, combined with the tires.
Like someone else stated, the tires on this thing, try high speed with better tires :-P Best mod i did on the bike was to get rid of the karoo3 :-P Love your honest opinion, you should take it offroad and try it on the trails also, there it will shine so much more. Here in Northern Europe I think this is the best bike money can buy in the ADV segment (new) if you see all the stock mods on this bike, the weight and engine... there is nothing else that can compare. And the best part, it is a great bike to ride, both on and off road :-D
Keep up the good work, nice to follow you channel. Cheers from Norway
Thanks for taking the time Thomas!
Once again, a very useful and good review Pavlin! Thanks. I have a 2010 Teneré and i'm also considering buying the AJP PR7 only for ride the TET trough europe. Could you consider making a review about it? Thanks.
I have heard about it and I will do it when I have the chance. We don't have dealer here and I cannot try it.
congrats for you passion and describing skills I admire highly all your work and dream to have opportunities like yours! thank you for all your knowledge and I hope to see you soon y south America and Colombia!
Thanks for taking the time Sebastian!
The speed of tires is limited to 160 km/h as you can see by the sticker left of the TFT display. So the high-speed shaking comes probably from the tires.
Flutter - high-speed wobbles are related to a combination of things interacting with Rake & Trail angles (and aerodynamic breakaway). KTM set the rake/trail aggressively for rapid turning in the sand and to veer away from potholes etc. Then user variables - Variable preload - Pavlan what was the pre-load setting on the rear shock for your test ride Pavlan? hard rear pre-load will make it flutter more because it effectively reduces rake - Variable rider kg - a heavier rider leaning forward compresses the forks and worsens the issue. Assume with 185cm Pavlan's weight with all his gear around 100kg and his sitting style forward (same as me) make the bike less stable at high speed - so light riders at 80kg are not going to experience the same issues. Next is aerodynamic break-away from mirrors and BarkBusters vs steering damper settings... high pressure zones infront of these form and break away. Small mirrors/guards are better.
The tested bike does not have the stock suspension. Probably not correctly set up, which explains the instability at speed.
Could be.
Bavlin,do u recommend this bike ? Will it be reliable ? For KTM is not known for reliability.
Wow acceleration is a thrill
Reliability never been the powerful side of KTM.
Thanks for the video! Waiting for the T 700....
My pleasure!
Instability is probably due to tires/high fender and agree bike is good but is it 15000€ good? Especially when for
There are many other options, the KTM is not the only one. As I said many times the bike is just a tool!
Perfect test mate!!
Thanks!
It’s a nice bike. I like the dashboard and the adjustable suspension.
It is beautiful motorcycle!
I was going to ask about this bike but you brought before I ask .!!
Good!
With respect Pavlin, no more music.
Okay
Hi Pavel, maybe these tires are not good for that type of speed? I got Bridgestone tw 42 and the handlebar goes kinda flamenco above 120/130 and the feeling is really unpleasant.
Could be
You don’t get that on your tenere with knobby tires ?
Besides thanks for your advices in the past, I’ve done my first 1700 km solo road trip and you were right about not expecting doing more than 300 km a day if I ride duo, my passenger would not stand the pain and I’m not even sure I would ^^ at least not on my bike.
Your reviews in oz were great that’s cool hear long terms owners about their bikes.
Good videos, but you did not use/ try the quickshifter..?
True
Pavlin my guess regarding high speed wobbles: the tires are not made for more than 160.
It is not from the tires.
Pavlin, I had the same issue with my old mic so I suggest you those "Purple Panda Lavalier Microphone Kit".
They works perfectly for high-speed videos and comes with all the cables for different type of cameras. Included the one for the gopro Usb Dongle that you have to use for Hero7.
You won't have any more mic noises.
The Panda is fine, I have it already. I was testing another mic.
Yamaha Tenere 700 or KTM 790 Adventure R?
The new 700 Tenere and the 790 KTM brings back sanity to the scene. most of the ADV motorcycle owners don't need 100+ H.P and 220+Kg monsters. it's way too much for 99.99% of riders. I'll wait 1-2 years to see if the 790 will is reliable and than will buy used one. thanks for the honest reviews!
You are welcome anytime!
Pavlin, this bike did not have the standard XPLOR suspension , but the higher conevalve XPLOR PRO from the Ktm 790 adventure rally.
This is very strange.
It is specifically for offroad and not the offroad/onroad compromise of the 790 R.
I have the 790 adventure R and it doesn’t wobble on the karoo3.
Even my old Yamaha behave way better on that speed.
😄👍🏻. Mine is super stable at high speed.
Hi all its out of topic, but i need advice-help!! I have keeway 125cc 2018 motorcycle😂 and i had it for only a year, now when i lets say go in steep hill or in turn in 3rd gear(i know i shouldnt) it makes squeek like sound its hard to describe but im sure it comes from clutch and bike seems like it dies nearly. What should i do. Anyone any thoughts? I have warranty but im interested what my dealer could say.. please i know its not the best one and its made in china but i still love it😂🤘🏼🤘🏼
I want to know about Ride comfort , Suspension stiffness and that Alien Headlight .
Riding comfort is great.
Thanks for the overview and the honest opinion you have shared. This bike in Bulgaria can be yours for around 23k leva, which is 12-13k euros from the official reseller. However, In the same category we have Yamaha 700 Te nere, which should land for as little as 9500 euros. If you can get your hands on the Yamaha and do a side comparison with the KTM that would be amazing! Cheers!
I will do it in some stage...
The KLR650 has a high front fender too, but it is stable at freeway speeds and does not shake. I am sure that your experience with the mighty KLR confirms that, Pavlin.
Well... I never rode the KLR with 160. The KTM is stable intill 140-150km/h.
@@motorcycleadventures Hypermotard and desert sled don't shake at high speed. But, yes, high fender is usually a stupid idea on adventure bikes.
To adjust the windscreen you need to open one screw in the middle of the screen. Then you can have two positions.
Good to know, thanks!
Nice Review, Thanks.
My pleasure!
I have the same front wobble at speeds 150kmh and above. My 790 is on TKC80s. Will see if a Scotts dampener can address that problem.
Good to know
hellow friend . do you think ktm is strong enought like your xt660z can go 100000km?
My Yamaha has 140,000km already. I cannot say anything about the KTM.
i see. im looking for a twinsylinder bike strong like xt660z. i had a ktm1050adv, i had 30000km on it. i ride to Tibet . on that trip i had a start issue and i was scared .so i sold it. i like ktm1090r and bmw f800gs adventure very mucn. i want to know witch one is strong like your xt660z. thank you .im a biker from China. welcome to ride China . thank you!!!
The instability was due to the tires. I had the same problem at high speed, but once I replaced them the problem went away. The windscreen is two position adjustable. I'd assume the standard R model is less than the version with the Rally suspension. Cheers
Could be, bad for Karoo!
Great to get your honest first opinion Pavlin, KTM reliability, dealer network and the odd fuel tank design is enough to keep me on the Africa Twin! Thank you.
Agree with your decision!
That's why I bought my Africa Twin Adventure Sports this Year !
I want to make a adventure trip to Vladivostok and reliability is most important.
Also the Africa Twin looks way better
Yeah--reliability is number one for me. And though I would spring for one of these if I knew the reliability was Japanese levels--I just don't know that. I bought a new VStrom 650, pound for pound best bike for the money for the riding I do. And extremely reliable. But I do have a crush on KTM 1290 ADV....
I'd have to say much of what you talked about on the KTM I'd agree with! I live in upstate NY and finding a KTM dealership is like looking for a needle in a hay stack! I do have one dealership close by but they're so small they don't carry any street bikes and as far as ADV bikes, I don't even think they carry those either just strictly motocross bikes! One thing I really don't like about the KTM is the positioning of the gas reservoirs on the side of the bike next to the engine, that's a ticking time bomb in my eye's! Yes it a great idea to lower the center of gravity on the machine but geez that a risky move on KTM's part! I'll stay with my Africa Twin any day of the week! Thanks again for sharing your thoughts!
Well.. I don't like the tank idea either, but the time will show us.
review honda crf 450L if you find one and that shake of handle might be because of high mudguard
I will, when I have the chance.
Nice review, thanks! If you have time, you can check the new Triumph 1200 Scrambler XE. Same wight, 90 PS, same price, but lot more Nm. Very nice bike for tall guys like you. One con: no windscreen at factory
Thanks for taking the time! I might do it later in the year.
I have a problem. I need two bikes with different capabilities and do not want a lot of compromises. I am considering a two bike solution for my riding needs but there are cost and space issues. To address my needs I am considering buying the KTM 890R and leaving it in that configuration for off road use. For long road rides I will have the following additional equipment I will switch out: An extra set of wheels with road biased tires, a lower, more comfortable heated seat and a taller windscreen. I might also add the lower front fender. The benefit is I save the garage space with one bike and lower overall cost than two bikes. I retain the R version's superior suspension and off road capability and would be able to ride comfortably on road as well. Easy to switch the equipment I listed and that changes the character of the bike. IMO, KTM should offer a package oriented around solving the problem with limited cost and equipment They would probably sell more bikes with an optional package like I described. My problem is not unique. In the meantime, I will solve the problem myself. The benefit of two bikes is they are ready for immediate use as they sit in the garage and I still have a bike to ride if one is in the shop. Of course, the garage space issue is still there and the higher initial cost and cost to maintain two bikes. I am leaning toward one bike with the additional equipment.
Thanks for sharing!
Sweet! A demo bike with Xplor Pro suspension 👍
Cool!
It looks like a Super moto in its dimensions/stance rather than a duel sport adventure bike , looks very low ground clearance.
Great video and review
More ground clearance than the tenere 700, and suspension travel.
@@jimenagulla9081 I like how the 660 Tenere stands
Fair comment Pavlin
The wind screen is adjustable (have to remove screws) 2 settings..
High speed wobble! is down to tyres but most of the big Adv bikes are prone to this.
You would probably prefer the Rd base model.
The selling point for the R model is it’s ability off road, there’s nothing in its class that can touch it.
You can see by my comments that I own one and I’m a KTM enthusiast... but I agree about your cost £ comments..
My bike is at the dealers with broken clutch, needs a engine rebuild to remove debris materials 🙈
KTM are not covering it by warranty as they say it’s Bike abuse off Rd Bill cost £1,800
Well... it is a nice piece of technology, but as I said in not my type of bike.
Thanks again. Always look forward to your reviews. It is a very good looking bike, but it is not for me - too much power and I would worry about the instability up top. I would probably never get to top, but wouldn't want to deal with it if I did. The price - Wow, too much for me. Maybe the 690 would work for me, but I think I would prefer an adventure bike down around 600 cc with maybe 50 HP, but I digress. Thanks again.
You are welcome anytime!
Get a klr650, proven platform, with around 50hp, and cheap
Looking fwd to you testing the Yamaha T7. No electronics!!
Me either
When do you think you will be riding the new T7✊️👊✊️👊
When I have the chance!
I am not a fan of the tank design. It also seems to me that the rubber tank protector does not fit very well.
Agree! I don't like it either.
You should try out and do a review on the Moto Guzzi V85. Retro looking, air cooled v twin, drive shaft ( should be pretty reliable not a lot of stuff to brake). It is more like a touring motorcycle + dirt roads, no serious off-roading but it sure is the best looking motorcycle in a while from this segment.
Продължавай все така с хубавите видеота.
I have zero interest to this bike - zero! Забрави го тоя морално остарял слон!
Е бих го нарекъл различен. Хубаво е че се правят различни концепции, в този сегмент е единствен такъв..
Слон, ми 20кг е по- тежък от ктм790аd и е 20кг по- лек от 1200gs ad и е общо взето колкото една Африка, сухо тегло това. Не е особено тежък имайки предвид конкуренцията.
Е не е xr650 в никакъв случай хаха.
I have the 790 r with std tires and can cruise at 180 km/h with no issue. Stable over 200 km/h. Check tire pressure and wheel balancing.
Could be, but I did not expect from brand new, test bike, to behave like that. If I was about to buy on that day I will definitely say No!
Modified suspension (not stock) and probably poorly set up on this tested bike.
I would love to see the same test but with the Teneré 700. ;-)
I will do it as soon I have the chance.
@@motorcycleadventures heya I hace a brand new T7 un my house... In South Spain, you Are invited todo test it!!! Mate!
@@motorcycleadventures me too waiting for you Realworld Reviews Brother
Favlin When will you test the Yamaha Tenera 700
Soon
It didn't seem to use up too much fork travel under braking. I find off-road oriented bikes a bit strange on road.
Depends from what skills you have and what normally you ride, but road bike will be always better.
Thks.
At 7:39 you said off road riding is forbidden? I live in BC, Canada, that seems so ridiculous, but I've never been to Europe.
Enjoy your freedom until you can!
@@motorcycleadventures all off road is forbidden or just for test bikes?
Completely agree with you.
Tanks Sujoy!
Great Video Pavlin, totally honest and open review, as an owner of this very bike i agree with everything youve said although i can not comment of the speed wobbles you experienced at 140 km plus. as you know here in Australia thats way above the limit :))) but id say that is mostly down to the tyres they have chosen as standard equipment, as far as the price is concerned it is way over priced and a huge stretch for the average guy on the street, the new tenere will put a massive dent into the sales of the 790 adventure.
i love my bike but geesh it hurt getting her ...
Enjoy you new toy!
I changed the tyres on my 790 and pushed 200kph without a wobble. Although I'd rarely be over 120kph.
@@trevormealiff1420 Tyres are next on the list, ill wear these down a bit first having already spent a large amount on the bike and the few extras i ordered with it .
@@jpsautomotive4207 I changed to the Anakee adventure tyres and travelled down to the Pyrenees for some off-roading. Apart from the road noise, the Anakee were great on the road and ok on dry lanes etc. but any mud or wet grass they were useless. There is no perfect tyre I guess. I'm going to do the Stans next spring and not sure what tyres I will use. I've a mate in OZ that also has a 790 r. Enjoy :)
in psychology class they say the higher the price of an item gets the lower the rating towards the product gets. Because when you pay a lot you rise your expectation and therefore give a lower rating but here I have to agree with you the bike should not shake at speeds especially with a theme like ready to race and than yes ready to race until 140km
Agree
I also found the 790AR unstable at speeds of around 160. I'm sure, as has been said by others, that it's down to the tyres, and maybe, in part, to the hight front mudguard. There's a sticker that warns against speeds over 160. The tyres should be more road orientated and the non-R mudguard can be fitted. Also, the non-R screen can be used.
True
I've been waiting for your review of this bike Pavlin
I have this bike and already did 10000 km on it - I had some other issues, but the bike was perfectly stable at more than 170
But also my ktm even though the model is the same 790 Adventure R,
to my surprise has a different suspension than yours - just like on the photos on ktm website.
Hm...even more confused!
Minor detail but not sure I like that exposed chain at the foot. Some riders still wear boots with laces - that could catch you out.
I'm waiting for when you will seat on a Tenere 700. I hope to jump on it end of the year or next year
Whatever is possible...
Did you choose correct mode?
For comfortable highway cursing I think you need to be in correct mode...
Modes have nothing to do with handling.
I can curse on the highway in any mode, goddammit!
Pavlin, I’m guessing the bike is probably unstable at high speed because the wheels were not balanced. Did you notice if there were any wheel weights on the rims (especially the front)?
You brought up an interesting point about it being worth the extra money over it’s competitors, I hadn’t thought about it in those terms before. Up until now I guess I only saw the bike as a lighter weight adventure bike to my BMW R1200 GSA.
I have a 2016 KTM 500 EXC that is nearing the completion of being heavily modified for long distance dual sport adventure riding, I guess I will leave well enough alone.
I have a 2003 BMW F650 Dakar bike that needs to be modified for real off road use and I believe this will eventually become a very capable adventure bike as well.
I don't think that the problem could be the balance, it is barn new bike.
Motorcycle Adventures Yes I know it’s a brand new bike but just like my brand new 500 EXC everything was fine out of the showroom below 90 km but above that the bike shook so violently I thought I was going kill my self. It took me some time from searching the internet to finally find that other riders had similar experiences. It was a lack of tire balance. When you think about it there are only three things that can effect a bikes stability 1. Suspension 2. Steering head bearing 3. Wheel balance.
I don’t think that you are so overweight that the suspension couldn’t handle your weight. KTM’s are notorious for the lack of grease in their steering head bearings but a brand new test ride shouldn’t have any effect, which leaves wheel balance. I will be my dollars 💵 against your donuts 🍩 that is what was wrong with your test bike.
I will say that it was the high fender and probably wrong sag.
Must be nice riding through all that forest and not have to watch out for kangaroos!
absolutely Sean!
Perfect motorcycle and even better reviewer! Thanks for this review Pavlin. I've got a question: Did you feel any wind turbulence when riding around 90 - 100 km/h? Is it less or more comfortable than the windshield on your Yamaha? Thanks 😊
In fact it is way way worse than my Yamaha even with the stock short screen. It is terrible!
Wow is that a demo? It has the xplor pro suspenion. I think thats about €4000.
Confirmed. It says "pro" at 3:58. you test rode and aftermarket suspension. Supposed to be better than standard and about 20mm more travel. Same goes to the shocks. Thats xplor pro too.
Pavlin I'm really surprised that almost all the brands let you test their best pruducts,eccept the one you are the best ambassador of. I mean, you have been almost everywere with your Tenere 660: is it possible that there is no dealer somewhere to let you test the new Tenere 700? Maybe Yam is afraid of your proverbial honesty? I don't think so, but there must be some kind of reason... Ciao!
The dealer in Berlin still haven't bike for test ride. I will do it as soon I can.
@@motorcycleadventures Understood. Thank you for answering and to know that there is not a "conspiracy" behind it..You know, as an Italian, sometimes I'm into this thoughts way too much!😀. Bye and ride safe , my friend.
Der Preis aktuell liegt bei 11200€, verkauft sich wohl nicht sehr gut wenn man die Motorrad-Neuzulassungen anschaut. Wünschte der Preis der T7 würde fallen, aber die haben ja jetzt noch launch in US plus Canada und alle warten auf ihre bikes. Denke das sie im Moment genug Nachfrage haben um den Preis noch zu halten.
I went for the 1290 SAS as a road-focused sports tourer, I don't think the 790 is good value. If I'm riding off-road I prefer something like a WR250R
Agree
It's too bad that you can only ride one bike at a time......for both worlds, I'll take the 790R. ....
mld That’s easy. You take the Super Adventure with an Enduro bike in the luggage. Engine in the top box, wheel in each side case and just strap the frame on the side. Perfect solution.
Hi Pavlin! Remember me? I bought a bike finally. Klr650 gen1 Good to know that my bike has the same highway capabilities as this ktm!:)
True in many ways...
I had a 2003 klr650 and it's not the same, not even close, the 790R has so much more power and carves the twisties, the 790R is only unstable above 95mph which is much faster than what I would want to ride a truly dirt capable Adventure bike.also a different tire would make a world of difference.
@@jimenagulla9081 My friend, that is why i put a smile at the end of my sentence. And i was only referring to being unstable at speeds above what i would ride in a straight line on the highway with any bike!
Great bike but built for performance. That puts it in a very high price bracket. For remote traveling I think that Yamaha got it right with the T700. No frills and hopefully great reliability.
Exactly my opinion.
I am lucky enough to have ridden the new T7 Tenere. The handling , braking and engine gearbox combination are fantastic, and more than enough to travel with. And a big step up from my xt660z. Although for me Tenere is enough for me. I can live with the 16litre tank, but the pillion accommodation is not good, and most of my travels are with the good lady now.
Plus it's ie less than 9000 sterling here.
I will have to wait for the more pillion friendly version. But for solo travel I think it will take a lot of beating.
Happy travels.
I believe that the new Tenere will be perfect for me, but I will wait to ride it first.
@@motorcycleadventures you won't be disappointed. The height for me was a problem. But I'm 5'9" and 12 stone. Have lowered my 660. The only other thing is I think the tyres are still not tubeless. I would prefer no tubes. And there is no standard rack.
@@motorcycleadventures at 190kmh the tenere 700 is perfectly stable
Good to know! I believe that the shaking is because of the high fender. Enjoy your new toy!
@@motorcycleadventures I have the 1190R with the low fender, it's also unstable at high speed...
Gastank makes sense for low centre of gravity but it's sad you almost don't see the engine. For my taste the headlight is beautiful.
Different people, different taste...
Put the price aside, the KTM 790 adventure is the best in class bike. If you want the second-best bike then buy something cheaper, that doesn't mean that it isn't a great bike, it just means that it is not number one!
I will agree that it's the best in the terms of performance and suspension, but these are the last things I am looking for. For me the simplicity and reliability are always priority and KTM fail with both. Good bike, but not for me.
I agree with mld.
"Number one" is a question of individual priorities.
T700 next if you can. Please compare these two bikes.
I will when I have the chance
@@motorcycleadventures Perhaps it's not matter of chance : in Belgium, it is possible to try the T700 for one hour... after meeting with the importer.
This bike is built for off-road use. The real test will be off-road. The price is just ridiculous. But what we are expect when manufacturers asking almost £3000 for an electric mountain bike. I also think to ride this bike high speed on a motorway the tires must be changed. About the video, THANKS for being Honest as you always do. Now I going to jump on my bicycle what I got free from my friend, I will make some engine noise like sound with my mouth, and I will imagine I'm riding that KTM.
Whatever makes you happy just do it!
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Please, test the Moto Guzzi V85TT....
It's really so good!!!
Regards
Not my type of bike, but I might do it.
High front fenders are not made for speed over 80-85 mph, that's why the Honda Africa Twin and the Yamaha T7 and the KTM1290 Adv. R all have low fenders.
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Well done Pavlin - for adventure riders, l would safe too expensive & too sophisticated - not my choice either
Agree
That high speed weave may be down to aerodynamics of those petrol tanks,
Every boxer I've owned (450cc_1100cc) did the same at high speed, shame because that engine appears almost to good for the whole bike.
No it is not. The S version has the same bike but totally different behavior.
Are Dampers worth for adventure bike's.
It has actually.
@@motorcycleadventures I mean Dampers on a Adventure Bike ( After market Dampers if the bike doesn't have by Sock ) not about this bike any other bike .
@@motorcycleadventures If it has dampers then , why does it vibrate so much on highway ??? (dampers are supposed to reduce vibrations and improve stability , riding experience for the rider .)
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BMW 850 Gs or KTM Adventure R,, I will be doing 30-40% off road in Colombia, South America
What? This bike cannot travel faster than my almost 20 year old XT? With this, the comfortable zone is also up to 120. You can go faster, but it ves wobbly at 140-150. No fun (not that I enjoy highway that much anyway). But at that price...Maybe the fender has something to do with it? Other question: When will you try the new Yam Tenere? It looks really exciting...but some people may be disappointed...not much playing with the display...hehe.
The bike is not made for high speed anyway... I will try the new Tenere when I had the chance. They said September her in Berlin.
@@motorcycleadventures Yeah, that's right, KTM has better offerings on this field. 95 horsies still is a lot. But the acceleration is fabulous.
I have heard of issues with ktm. Reliability problems, high service costs high cost of purchase. Others will know better than me. I am going to be taking the first course for a license in the next month or so. I have been researching the bike I want to ride around Australia. It is surprising to me that that bike seems to be The Suzuki DR650 se. Surprising because the design is from 1990 I think. So for this segment at least, no improvement in bikes for almost 30 years. That is crazy.
I second you on the fuel tank design. I don't like the looks of it. Maybe I am a traditional motorcyclist. I like to see the engine in it's full naked glory. I understand the function to bring the centre of gravity lower, but maybe there could be better ways to do and still make it look good.
Agree, but...
Please try yamaha tenere 700
I will, when I have the chance.
Perhaps a change of tyres would cure the high speed handling.
Could be
In Australia the 790 costs $24,000 ride away and the new Yamaha 700 will be approx $6000 cheaper. There are already rider reports of minor build problems such as leaking TFT screen, oil leaks, faulty brake light and peeling decals. To be continued
The reliability never been the powerful side of the KTM family!
Good looking beauty
In summary, too much money for a bike that tank slaps going beyond 90 to 100 mph. Yes, those are very high speeds, but the bike can do it, so it had better do it safe. Thank you for your honesty!
My pleasure!
hello sir, how tall are you ?
185cm
@@motorcycleadventures thanks sir ;-)