I agree on most issues you talked about. Build quality, fitment, small tank, need for a fuel controller, etc. My nearest dealer is 4 hours away. Luckily I know how to work on bikes. That being said, I love my Svart and will repair it as needed.
With these bikes, I think it’s pretty much mandatory you have at least some tools and mechanical skills. Otherwise you’ll never get to ride your bike, it’ll just be at the dealer constantly. Cheers. 👍🏽.
Just bought a Svartpilen 401. Appreciate your perspective on ownership. That said, "why you shouldn't buy one" is misleadingly alarmist. Since most of your headaches are based on either minor aesthetics or poor availability of Asian aftermarket bits, I feel confident I've made a solid choice. Interesting you bothered to fish for a few more horsepower instead of leaving it stock, seeing as you have other mega-high-horsepower choices in the garage. Anyway, thank you for the vid.
The point of this video was to bring attention to my personal experiences. What’s minor to you may not be minor to others. I am fortunate that I have the ability to fix this bike on my own because I have the space, tools, and knowledge (although I’m no expert). Not everybody has that option and not everybody has a dealer within a reasonable distance. I’m sure you’ve noticed there aren’t many Husq dealers and not all KTM dealers will service these. So just because I have other high horsepower options means I shouldn’t bother maximizing the performance of this Husqvarna? Not sure where you were going with that last statement. Appreciate the view and the comment, thanks.
I mean yeah you definitely click baited this. Also it seems that your opinion is based only on your experience and the way you do your video is as if it’s all or every there is to know To me it just like mid-low class handling and the wear you put on your bike. When it came to the to the esthetics especially Also compared to the 10-50-100 videos from new riders to old. Your mechanical issues are sparse after looking specifically into your claims… So yeah maybe here and there but literally one of the only videos with these claims is yours. With all others having honest reviews with 1 year plus or under . Having great reviews. Seems to me your video should be “my experience” not “don’t buy this” Super click bait and with looking up your claims seems a lack of integrity mixed with a shot at getting views as the only one to be like DONT BUY THIS. Especially since you have all that high tier vehicle option sitting around. Appreciate it if you want to be like hey here’s what to look for and my experience. But the video title and your method of explaining is and end all one. For the bike you’re talking about and the comparative videos of other UA-camrs. Thanks for the points (as I’m taking it) for red flags Just pointing out to you and others that there is a clear lack of integrity in my opinion here for the most of this particular video.
@ShabazzMuhammad-qx5ib So you don't like that I based an opinion on personal experience? This is in comparison to what? Basing an opinion on other's experience? LOL. If you had experience with these bikes you would know these aesthetic issues are common, you should read the rest of the comments in this video. My experience is not a unique one. You should also do more research on your own. Reddit is filled with similar issues with these bikes. Just because some UA-camr who was supplied a Vitpilen/Svartpilen for a week from Husqvarna to review says it's a great bike, doesn't mean it's problem free. When is the last time you saw a motorcycle reviewer give a bad review on a bike? Sorry man but you don't know what you are talking about. You reference a lack of integrity when I've clearly showed in this video where the problem areas are. It is on video... So you are forming an opinion based on anecdotes rather than a video where you are shown what the issues are.
@@metaldreams3595 Don't bother. Somebody like the original commenter will only tell you it's great to justify their purchase. They'll conveniently leave out the obvious issues with these. Doesn't mean they are a bad bike, but to say they are problem free is ridiculous. Then people will defer back to the fact that they've never seen a bad review for these bikes, but leave out the fact they've probably never seen a bad review on a bike. Seriously, on UA-cam when is the last time you've seen a bad review on a bike?
Some valid points for those who are thinking about buying one. And I like this guy. The price of these things. For the most unique motorcycle and coolest looking bike anyones dared to offer I cant believe we get it for the price we do. $5300 OTD right now for 2023s... But I have to mention...the fitment and cosmetic things hes pointing out...in my mind its really unfair almost ridiculous. I mean...what do people expect to get for the cheapest top tier name brand 400 you can buy? Im with him on somenof these things being annoying but just keep things in perspective folks. If those fitment issues are now important to you go look at other bikes fitment. If you look close youre gonna find issues for 300 cc bikes that cost $2000 more. Lastly, idk if none of them have experienced these things or they consider them to be kinda nothing to note but Ive watched a ton of videos and guys dont mention this stuff at all.
Appreciate your perspective and I agree these bikes are very aesthetically unique and are offered at a very fair price. As I’ve alluded to many times before, there’s not another motorcycle in this category I would rather have. Now of course we have the RS457, but we haven’t really seen what those will truly be like. I will disagree that pointing out cosmetic issues is ridiculous. Of course we have to consider the price point, but it would be irresponsible for me to be aware of obvious flaws and just ignore them. It doesn’t mean an individual shouldn’t buy a Vitpilen because of the poor fit and finish. I point out what I see and leave it up to the viewer to make the determination as to whether they care enough to allow it to influence their purchasing decision. Beyond that point, how do we expect these products to get better if the owners don’t acknowledge and point out obvious fitment defects? As consumers we should expect the best product possible. Just because other owners don’t report these issues doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I clearly show in the video that there are obvious issues with the finishing on these bikes. I provide a visual so potential buyers can see what’s wrong with mine and decide for themselves if they care about that enough to not purchase one. Motorcycling is like many other hobbies where people have to justify their purchases. You’ll find in many hobbies people refuse to accept reality and won’t admit their purchase has some significant flaws. Now, that doesn’t mean an individual can’t enjoy their purchase despite its flaws. I’ve enjoyed this purchase very much, however, it’d be disingenuous for me to know about obvious issues with these bikes and just purposely not mention it. Thank you again for your perspective. Healthy and productive disagreement is a good thing and certainly helps others. If we all agreed on everything, we’d never improve.
Hi KY. The only changes I've made to my '22 Vit are mirror extenders and swingarm spools. The original mirrors are funky but I see them as part of the overall design, and, I haven't noticed that they are blurry. LED turn signals look better but I have some doubts about their visibility. It's probably a case of ignorance is bliss but I think my bike runs just fine, bone stock.
The LED turn signals are way more visible than the stock ones if you ever decide to change them down the road. Glad you are happy with yours! Everybody is just different. 😊.
@@ridewithKY It could be some LEDs are better than others. The ones on my previous bike were not very good and the ones on my friend's bike are not good.
I’m wondering if the housing also has something to do with it. You are right though, I’ve seen some LED turn signals that are not very visible. Generally these are aftermarket ones in my experience. Nice hearing from you George.
@@ridewithKY The ones on my bike were OEM, 2019 Honda CB300R. The ones on my friend's bike are definitely aftermarket. Although they're not LED the OEM ones on the Vit are definitely visible. I wonder why Husqvarna specified incandescent bulbs for the US while they're LED in other parts of the world. Cheers KY.
My understanding is because it’s required in the US due to DOT regs. That’s why you see a lot of bikes with incandescent only in the US and not anywhere else. Chalk it up to outdated gov regs.
I agree with the chain stretching (factory fitted chains are crap), the display issues also are common, the center panel on the fuel tank is bending due to too tight/loose screws. The engine stalls might be related to gas quality, go for super premium fuel and good gas stations.
Had the bike for a year, even tho it is not perfect, didnt have any engine/display issues, nor people I have met who have the same bike, so I would say you were not lucky : (
That’s awesome yours has been trouble free. I’m not so sure if it’s all just a matter of luck. The stalling and display issues have been well documented with these and are common unfortunately.
Most people have the stalling and display issue right out of the gate, it doesn’t seem as if it’s something that eventually develops. So if yours didn’t come with this issue, I think you are in the clear. 😊
Have to say my MY2018 seems to be holding up really well and fit and finish is fine…or what I’d expect of a moto of this price , believe me here in the UK the amount of Yamaha MT or Suzuki owners would kill for our build quality 😂😂 at a price point of course.. I’m from an off-road background so just see this a more road based Supermoto/Urban trail and I’m fine with it’s idiosyncratic nature.. It rides REALLY well, rides light and flickable which I really enjoy , my last bike was a KTM 690 duke and although I miss the power I would say the husky is on par handling wise, possibly not grip ( mines a Svartpilen) I’ve switched out parts for “performance “ parts but who am I kidding ..it’s 370 odd cc single .. I just thrash the tits of it everywhere and gets sooo many comments , whether negative or positive on its looks ..I don’t care ..it cost me 1900 quid !
Did you notice quality being better on older 401s? They were built in Mattighofen, Austria until about late 2019 I think and then production was moved to India to join the Duke 390. I have owned Indian made bikes before and they were OK but you could tell they were built down to a price
It seemed like the older 401’s had a little better fit and finish but of course the older 401’s had more mechanical issues. Mostly with head gaskets. The newer 401’s were better but there’s still some well documented cases of head gasket issues with the later 401’s.
Interesting POV, complaint about some issues but not willing to take it to dealer and leave it there fox all fixes. Since dude is braging having other bike and cars. Yea, I agree that if you bought it you want to use it. But still..
Definitely wasn’t bragging about having other bikes and cars. But I’ll definitely brag about being able to spell. Not everybody has time to take their bike to the dealer every other week. Some owners may not even have a dealer within a few hours of their residence. There are also many instances where you may not be able to get an appointment at your local dealer for weeks/months. Regardless, the point is to bring light to these issues and let the viewer decide how they would handle it should their experience be the same.
Haha. Great video - thanks for pointing out all the things to keep an eye on here. Appreciate the experience and effort to share with us. I just picked up my first bike - a new to me 2023 Svartpilen with 114 miles on it. Right out of the gate, had overheating issues. The bike temp would max out after about 15 minutes of riding. Spent a few hours “fixing” the coolant system & dealing with the thermostat. Ended up deleting the thermostat, and now it is working/running fine. PITA on a new bike, but kinda cool that I could fix it on my own without going to the dealer 2 hrs away.
Awesome man. Glad the video proved helpful to you. Enjoy that Svartpilen, they are great bikes although of course they have their flaws. Glad you were able to fix the coolant system on your own. Part of the beauty of these bikes is the simplicity. It’s very easy to work on these bikes with limited knowledge of mechanics and limited tools. Cheers man, ride safe.
@@ridewithKY For sure - of all the things that could go wrong, a little thermostat delete definitely leans toward the “I can fix it myself” side of the scale.
I didn't notice cosmetic issues, 2021 svartpilen. However, I also had chain issues you mentioned. Also easily spent a thousand+ dollars for mods, to get it to a point it was daily commutable. Each part was $100+, but they were all aftermarket, so its sunk cost. Oil changes are super frequent 1.5k miles. I do lot of miles, so that might be the issue. Anyway, I got a bigger bike as a commuter, since I felt like I'm pushing this little bike too hard with my commutes. It is a fun bike though and its been a good experience.
Interesting you haven’t noticed any cosmetic issues. Unless my memory is failing me, I think every Vit/Svart I’ve ever seen has had poor fitment with the fairings. However, glad yours seems to be solid and well fitting. I know what you mean when you say these bikes feel like they are huffing and puffing a bit when commuting at further distances. First time I took my Vit on the freeway, I immediately knew there’s no way I could commute with this bike in stock form. Keeping up with CA traffic, the bike was almost redlined lol. Overall fun bikes but very far from perfect. Appreciate you sharing. Thanks.
I mean yeah you definitely click baited this. Also it seems that your opinion is based only on your experience and the way you do your video is as if it’s all or every there is to know To me it just like mid-low class handling and the wear you put on your bike. When it came to the to the esthetics especially Also compared to the 10-50-100 videos from new riders to old. Your mechanical issues are sparse after looking specifically into your claims… So yeah maybe here and there but literally one of the only videos with these claims is yours. With all others having honest reviews with 1 year plus or under . Having great reviews. Seems to me your video should be “my experience” not “don’t buy this” Super click bait and with looking up your claims seems a lack of integrity mixed with a shot at getting views as the only one to be like DONT BUY THIS. Especially since you have all that high tier vehicle option sitting around. Appreciate it if you want to be like hey here’s what to look for and my experience. But the video title and your method of explaining is and end all one. For the bike you’re talking about and the comparative videos of other UA-camrs. Thanks for the points (as I’m taking it) for red flags Just pointing out to you and others that there is a clear lack of integrity in my opinion here for the most of this particular video.
If you don’t just do the most expensive purchase option like most people don’t. You’re sitting well under 7k… you’re the absolute first person from CA who said that. Expressing it’s for you particularly is imperative. Misleading and discouraging many new or interested riders right out the gate. Because again your tone, title , and wordage are very “I know what I’m talking about this happens with most if not all of them guys. Every has this happen no it’s not just my specific one or a few I see them all the time.” You’d probably be maybe near that 7k by doing everything you said needs to get done. Also just your opinion as many many many other videos express 1/2 what you are saying is needed. Who actually are mechanics and or avid riders like you. Again you are a big spending sounding rider as you make it sound. Again this is a very misleading video for people who aren’t in your shoes. Ending it with this is my opinion and I’m not telling what to do. When you probably should have started with that. Instead doing just that until the end. Without taking responsibility for possibly unreasonable expectations or purchasing choices you’ve made by choice or had to make because where you live. Recognizing throughout the video it’s your experience and why. It’s just feel’s misleading and frustrating , your method for this video. Respectfully. Hope you do it differently next time. All the best.
You should probably do a little more research as well as look at some of the comments for this video. You’ll find that my experience is not a unique one. Also, if you ever look at one of these bikes in person you’ll also confirm my same findings as well. Not sure how sharing my experience displays a lack of integrity or is misleading. Lol. You might need to get out on 2 wheels a little more so you can relax. It’s just an informational video, no need for personal attacks. Take care.
Been watching your videos because I’m considering getting a 401. Lifelong car guy but never had a bike. Really enjoying your content and perspectives! The garage is awesome. Would love to see some Vantage content!
Thanks so much for watching. The 401’s are great as long as you know what you are getting. If you are a lifelong car guy, then fixing any quirk that arises with these 401’s shouldn’t be an issue. Appreciate the compliment regarding the garage and they’ll probably be some vantage content in the future. Anyways, thanks for the views and if you have any further questions about 401’s, please feel free to ask!
Awesome. You will enjoy it just as I’ve enjoyed mine. There’s a few things that come up with these but I don’t think they are severe enough to take away from the ownership experience. Thank you for watching.
@@ridewithKY for a guy returning to a bike after 20yrs, I was conflicted between the Conti 650 GT and the Vitpilen. The Vitpilen won out in the end because I value upskilling myself as a rider first. With a good set of sliders (Oggy knobs still a thing?) I think it will make a great bike for skidpan sessions and rider training/track courses. … While a concurrently but patiently build a conti 865 GT 😂
Where I am living, I have to spend close to 8000 USD to get this new after tax and registration. I was already on the fence but these issues really turn me off. Why spend 8k when most countries sell these bikes around 7k
Yeah that’s up there a little bit. Figure you are at $8000 plus you have to put a little bit into these bikes, in my opinion, to really make them they way they should be. Another thing to consider is if you can work on this bike yourself or not. Silly things like having to adjust the chain all the time gets pretty annoying if you can’t easily do that yourself at home. I enjoy the 401, but I also have the space, tools, and knowledge to fix it when little things go wrong. If I had to go to the dealer everytime I had an issue, I don’t think I would enjoy my ownership experience near as much.
I also have the same Ergo seat and had the same issue with you regarding the emblem not being fully inserted. In my case, it was due to the pinched cover material between the emblem and seat - specifically the gap between emblem and a post like structure from the seat. If you clear the seat cover material around that area, you can fully insert the emblem so that it can be fully latched. Hopefully my explanation makes sense!
Now am scared of getting this bike, my dealership only have 1 of this bike 😢 and a couple of RC 390 for $4400 BN on sale with add-ons free, now leaning towards. I just need a budget starter
This is my first bike. I gotta say I have loved riding it but all of these issues are indeed common. Part of me thinks I still would have gotten the bike even knowing what I know now. It is an absolute blast to ride!
To be honest the RC390’s have similar issues so I don’t think you are gaining anything by going with the RC390. However, if the RC390 is a better deal because it comes with whatever add ons they are including, I would understand that decision completely. These Vit’s are great to ride but potential owners should know it’s very possible you’ll have to deal with issues here and there.
These 373’s are known for head gasket failure. However, to expand on that it’s not really the head gasket that’s the issue. It’s poor finishing on the deck surface and the head that makes it push the gasket. The newer 373’s are better but it can still be an issue sometimes.
You gain about 1000 rpm or so. For me when I’m cruising on the freeway at 75-80, my tach is at 6800-7000 instead of 7800-8000. Of course these numbers are approximate as I don’t even know if our displays are accurate. It does make a considerable difference however. You of course lose some low speed snap, but these bikes won’t win any races anyways regardless of the gearing. Mine will still pull up the front wheel if I chop the throttle in first, no clutch.
I agree on most issues you talked about. Build quality, fitment, small tank, need for a fuel controller, etc.
My nearest dealer is 4 hours away. Luckily I know how to work on bikes.
That being said, I love my Svart and will repair it as needed.
A very respectable and honest response. Thanks for watching and keep enjoying that Svart.
With these bikes, I think it’s pretty much mandatory you have at least some tools and mechanical skills. Otherwise you’ll never get to ride your bike, it’ll just be at the dealer constantly. Cheers. 👍🏽.
I've got about the same mileage as yours on my '22. Luckily I've only had to do an oil change so far. Knock on wood...
Haha! Hope it stays that way for you. But sounds like you are covered either way seeing as you have some knowledge of how to work on motorcycles.
Just bought a Svartpilen 401. Appreciate your perspective on ownership. That said, "why you shouldn't buy one" is misleadingly alarmist. Since most of your headaches are based on either minor aesthetics or poor availability of Asian aftermarket bits, I feel confident I've made a solid choice. Interesting you bothered to fish for a few more horsepower instead of leaving it stock, seeing as you have other mega-high-horsepower choices in the garage. Anyway, thank you for the vid.
The point of this video was to bring attention to my personal experiences. What’s minor to you may not be minor to others. I am fortunate that I have the ability to fix this bike on my own because I have the space, tools, and knowledge (although I’m no expert). Not everybody has that option and not everybody has a dealer within a reasonable distance. I’m sure you’ve noticed there aren’t many Husq dealers and not all KTM dealers will service these.
So just because I have other high horsepower options means I shouldn’t bother maximizing the performance of this Husqvarna? Not sure where you were going with that last statement.
Appreciate the view and the comment, thanks.
So? It's been 6 months. Hows your Svartpilen?
I mean yeah you definitely click baited this. Also it seems that your opinion is based only on your experience and the way you do your video is as if it’s all or every there is to know
To me it just like mid-low class handling and the wear you put on your bike.
When it came to the to the esthetics especially
Also compared to the 10-50-100 videos from new riders to old. Your mechanical issues are sparse after looking specifically into your claims…
So yeah maybe here and there but literally one of the only videos with these claims is yours. With all others having honest reviews with 1 year plus or under . Having great reviews.
Seems to me your video should be “my experience” not “don’t buy this”
Super click bait and with looking up your claims seems a lack of integrity mixed with a shot at getting views as the only one to be like DONT BUY THIS. Especially since you have all that high tier vehicle option sitting around.
Appreciate it if you want to be like hey here’s what to look for and my experience. But the video title and your method of explaining is and end all one. For the bike you’re talking about and the comparative videos of other UA-camrs.
Thanks for the points (as I’m taking it) for red flags
Just pointing out to you and others that there is a clear lack of integrity in my opinion here for the most of this particular video.
@ShabazzMuhammad-qx5ib So you don't like that I based an opinion on personal experience? This is in comparison to what? Basing an opinion on other's experience? LOL.
If you had experience with these bikes you would know these aesthetic issues are common, you should read the rest of the comments in this video. My experience is not a unique one.
You should also do more research on your own. Reddit is filled with similar issues with these bikes. Just because some UA-camr who was supplied a Vitpilen/Svartpilen for a week from Husqvarna to review says it's a great bike, doesn't mean it's problem free. When is the last time you saw a motorcycle reviewer give a bad review on a bike?
Sorry man but you don't know what you are talking about. You reference a lack of integrity when I've clearly showed in this video where the problem areas are. It is on video... So you are forming an opinion based on anecdotes rather than a video where you are shown what the issues are.
@@metaldreams3595 Don't bother. Somebody like the original commenter will only tell you it's great to justify their purchase. They'll conveniently leave out the obvious issues with these. Doesn't mean they are a bad bike, but to say they are problem free is ridiculous. Then people will defer back to the fact that they've never seen a bad review for these bikes, but leave out the fact they've probably never seen a bad review on a bike. Seriously, on UA-cam when is the last time you've seen a bad review on a bike?
Some valid points for those who are thinking about buying one.
And I like this guy.
The price of these things. For the most unique motorcycle and coolest looking bike anyones dared to offer I cant believe we get it for the price we do. $5300 OTD right now for 2023s...
But I have to mention...the fitment and cosmetic things hes pointing out...in my mind its really unfair almost ridiculous.
I mean...what do people expect to get for the cheapest top tier name brand 400 you can buy? Im with him on somenof these things being annoying but just keep things in perspective folks. If those fitment issues are now important to you go look at other bikes fitment. If you look close youre gonna find issues for 300 cc bikes that cost $2000 more.
Lastly, idk if none of them have experienced these things or they consider them to be kinda nothing to note but Ive watched a ton of videos and guys dont mention this stuff at all.
Appreciate your perspective and I agree these bikes are very aesthetically unique and are offered at a very fair price. As I’ve alluded to many times before, there’s not another motorcycle in this category I would rather have. Now of course we have the RS457, but we haven’t really seen what those will truly be like.
I will disagree that pointing out cosmetic issues is ridiculous. Of course we have to consider the price point, but it would be irresponsible for me to be aware of obvious flaws and just ignore them. It doesn’t mean an individual shouldn’t buy a Vitpilen because of the poor fit and finish. I point out what I see and leave it up to the viewer to make the determination as to whether they care enough to allow it to influence their purchasing decision. Beyond that point, how do we expect these products to get better if the owners don’t acknowledge and point out obvious fitment defects? As consumers we should expect the best product possible.
Just because other owners don’t report these issues doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I clearly show in the video that there are obvious issues with the finishing on these bikes. I provide a visual so potential buyers can see what’s wrong with mine and decide for themselves if they care about that enough to not purchase one. Motorcycling is like many other hobbies where people have to justify their purchases. You’ll find in many hobbies people refuse to accept reality and won’t admit their purchase has some significant flaws. Now, that doesn’t mean an individual can’t enjoy their purchase despite its flaws. I’ve enjoyed this purchase very much, however, it’d be disingenuous for me to know about obvious issues with these bikes and just purposely not mention it.
Thank you again for your perspective. Healthy and productive disagreement is a good thing and certainly helps others. If we all agreed on everything, we’d never improve.
Hi KY. The only changes I've made to my '22 Vit are mirror extenders and swingarm spools. The original mirrors are funky but I see them as part of the overall design, and, I haven't noticed that they are blurry. LED turn signals look better but I have some doubts about their visibility. It's probably a case of ignorance is bliss but I think my bike runs just fine, bone stock.
The LED turn signals are way more visible than the stock ones if you ever decide to change them down the road.
Glad you are happy with yours! Everybody is just different. 😊.
@@ridewithKY It could be some LEDs are better than others. The ones on my previous bike were not very good and the ones on my friend's bike are not good.
I’m wondering if the housing also has something to do with it. You are right though, I’ve seen some LED turn signals that are not very visible. Generally these are aftermarket ones in my experience.
Nice hearing from you George.
@@ridewithKY The ones on my bike were OEM, 2019 Honda CB300R. The ones on my friend's bike are definitely aftermarket.
Although they're not LED the OEM ones on the Vit are definitely visible. I wonder why Husqvarna specified incandescent bulbs for the US while they're LED in other parts of the world. Cheers KY.
My understanding is because it’s required in the US due to DOT regs. That’s why you see a lot of bikes with incandescent only in the US and not anywhere else. Chalk it up to outdated gov regs.
I agree with the chain stretching (factory fitted chains are crap), the display issues also are common, the center panel on the fuel tank is bending due to too tight/loose screws. The engine stalls might be related to gas quality, go for super premium fuel and good gas stations.
Had the bike for a year, even tho it is not perfect, didnt have any engine/display issues, nor people I have met who have the same bike, so I would say you were not lucky : (
That’s awesome yours has been trouble free. I’m not so sure if it’s all just a matter of luck. The stalling and display issues have been well documented with these and are common unfortunately.
@@ridewithKY I see, hope mine stays the same 🥲
Most people have the stalling and display issue right out of the gate, it doesn’t seem as if it’s something that eventually develops. So if yours didn’t come with this issue, I think you are in the clear. 😊
Have to say my MY2018 seems to be holding up really well and fit and finish is fine…or what I’d expect of a moto of this price , believe me here in the UK the amount of Yamaha MT or Suzuki owners would kill for our build quality 😂😂 at a price point of course..
I’m from an off-road background so just see this a more road based Supermoto/Urban trail and I’m fine with it’s idiosyncratic nature..
It rides REALLY well, rides light and flickable which I really enjoy , my last bike was a KTM 690 duke and although I miss the power I would say the husky is on par handling wise, possibly not grip ( mines a Svartpilen)
I’ve switched out parts for “performance “ parts but who am I kidding ..it’s 370 odd cc single ..
I just thrash the tits of it everywhere and gets sooo many comments , whether negative or positive on its looks ..I don’t care ..it cost me 1900 quid !
2018 models were still built in Austria, the following year it was moved to India. The bike in the video is 2022.
Did you notice quality being better on older 401s? They were built in Mattighofen, Austria until about late 2019 I think and then production was moved to India to join the Duke 390. I have owned Indian made bikes before and they were OK but you could tell they were built down to a price
It seemed like the older 401’s had a little better fit and finish but of course the older 401’s had more mechanical issues. Mostly with head gaskets. The newer 401’s were better but there’s still some well documented cases of head gasket issues with the later 401’s.
Interesting POV, complaint about some issues but not willing to take it to dealer and leave it there fox all fixes. Since dude is braging having other bike and cars. Yea, I agree that if you bought it you want to use it. But still..
Definitely wasn’t bragging about having other bikes and cars. But I’ll definitely brag about being able to spell.
Not everybody has time to take their bike to the dealer every other week. Some owners may not even have a dealer within a few hours of their residence. There are also many instances where you may not be able to get an appointment at your local dealer for weeks/months. Regardless, the point is to bring light to these issues and let the viewer decide how they would handle it should their experience be the same.
Haha. Great video - thanks for pointing out all the things to keep an eye on here. Appreciate the experience and effort to share with us.
I just picked up my first bike - a new to me 2023 Svartpilen with 114 miles on it. Right out of the gate, had overheating issues. The bike temp would max out after about 15 minutes of riding.
Spent a few hours “fixing” the coolant system & dealing with the thermostat. Ended up deleting the thermostat, and now it is working/running fine.
PITA on a new bike, but kinda cool that I could fix it on my own without going to the dealer 2 hrs away.
Awesome man. Glad the video proved helpful to you.
Enjoy that Svartpilen, they are great bikes although of course they have their flaws.
Glad you were able to fix the coolant system on your own. Part of the beauty of these bikes is the simplicity. It’s very easy to work on these bikes with limited knowledge of mechanics and limited tools.
Cheers man, ride safe.
@@ridewithKY For sure - of all the things that could go wrong, a little thermostat delete definitely leans toward the “I can fix it myself” side of the scale.
I didn't notice cosmetic issues, 2021 svartpilen. However, I also had chain issues you mentioned. Also easily spent a thousand+ dollars for mods, to get it to a point it was daily commutable. Each part was $100+, but they were all aftermarket, so its sunk cost.
Oil changes are super frequent 1.5k miles. I do lot of miles, so that might be the issue. Anyway, I got a bigger bike as a commuter, since I felt like I'm pushing this little bike too hard with my commutes. It is a fun bike though and its been a good experience.
Interesting you haven’t noticed any cosmetic issues. Unless my memory is failing me, I think every Vit/Svart I’ve ever seen has had poor fitment with the fairings. However, glad yours seems to be solid and well fitting.
I know what you mean when you say these bikes feel like they are huffing and puffing a bit when commuting at further distances. First time I took my Vit on the freeway, I immediately knew there’s no way I could commute with this bike in stock form. Keeping up with CA traffic, the bike was almost redlined lol.
Overall fun bikes but very far from perfect. Appreciate you sharing. Thanks.
I mean yeah you definitely click baited this. Also it seems that your opinion is based only on your experience and the way you do your video is as if it’s all or every there is to know
To me it just like mid-low class handling and the wear you put on your bike.
When it came to the to the esthetics especially
Also compared to the 10-50-100 videos from new riders to old. Your mechanical issues are sparse after looking specifically into your claims…
So yeah maybe here and there but literally one of the only videos with these claims is yours. With all others having honest reviews with 1 year plus or under . Having great reviews.
Seems to me your video should be “my experience” not “don’t buy this”
Super click bait and with looking up your claims seems a lack of integrity mixed with a shot at getting views as the only one to be like DONT BUY THIS. Especially since you have all that high tier vehicle option sitting around.
Appreciate it if you want to be like hey here’s what to look for and my experience. But the video title and your method of explaining is and end all one. For the bike you’re talking about and the comparative videos of other UA-camrs.
Thanks for the points (as I’m taking it) for red flags
Just pointing out to you and others that there is a clear lack of integrity in my opinion here for the most of this particular video.
If you don’t just do the most expensive purchase option like most people don’t. You’re sitting well under 7k… you’re the absolute first person from CA who said that.
Expressing it’s for you particularly is imperative. Misleading and discouraging many new or interested riders right out the gate. Because again your tone, title , and wordage are very “I know what I’m talking about this happens with most if not all of them guys. Every has this happen no it’s not just my specific one or a few I see them all the time.”
You’d probably be maybe near that 7k by doing everything you said needs to get done.
Also just your opinion as many many many other videos express 1/2 what you are saying is needed.
Who actually are mechanics and or avid riders like you.
Again you are a big spending sounding rider as you make it sound.
Again this is a very misleading video for people who aren’t in your shoes.
Ending it with this is my opinion and I’m not telling what to do. When you probably should have started with that. Instead doing just that until the end.
Without taking responsibility for possibly unreasonable expectations or purchasing choices you’ve made by choice or had to make because where you live. Recognizing throughout the video it’s your experience and why.
It’s just feel’s misleading and frustrating , your method for this video. Respectfully. Hope you do it differently next time.
All the best.
You should probably do a little more research as well as look at some of the comments for this video. You’ll find that my experience is not a unique one. Also, if you ever look at one of these bikes in person you’ll also confirm my same findings as well.
Not sure how sharing my experience displays a lack of integrity or is misleading. Lol. You might need to get out on 2 wheels a little more so you can relax. It’s just an informational video, no need for personal attacks. Take care.
Been watching your videos because I’m considering getting a 401. Lifelong car guy but never had a bike. Really enjoying your content and perspectives! The garage is awesome. Would love to see some Vantage content!
Thanks so much for watching. The 401’s are great as long as you know what you are getting. If you are a lifelong car guy, then fixing any quirk that arises with these 401’s shouldn’t be an issue.
Appreciate the compliment regarding the garage and they’ll probably be some vantage content in the future.
Anyways, thanks for the views and if you have any further questions about 401’s, please feel free to ask!
I bought a 2020 vitpilen 701 as my first motorcycle. I absolutely love it!
Awesome man. The 701 is a great bike.
My dealer is perfect. There was an issue with the battery and they took care of it while I was drinking coffee.
Awesome. Glad you had a good experience with your dealer.
Just bought one, great video as a reference for things to keep an eye out for.
Awesome. You will enjoy it just as I’ve enjoyed mine. There’s a few things that come up with these but I don’t think they are severe enough to take away from the ownership experience. Thank you for watching.
@@ridewithKY for a guy returning to a bike after 20yrs, I was conflicted between the Conti 650 GT and the Vitpilen.
The Vitpilen won out in the end because I value upskilling myself as a rider first. With a good set of sliders (Oggy knobs still a thing?) I think it will make a great bike for skidpan sessions and rider training/track courses.
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While a concurrently but patiently build a conti 865 GT 😂
Where I am living, I have to spend close to 8000 USD to get this new after tax and registration. I was already on the fence but these issues really turn me off. Why spend 8k when most countries sell these bikes around 7k
Yeah that’s up there a little bit. Figure you are at $8000 plus you have to put a little bit into these bikes, in my opinion, to really make them they way they should be.
Another thing to consider is if you can work on this bike yourself or not. Silly things like having to adjust the chain all the time gets pretty annoying if you can’t easily do that yourself at home. I enjoy the 401, but I also have the space, tools, and knowledge to fix it when little things go wrong. If I had to go to the dealer everytime I had an issue, I don’t think I would enjoy my ownership experience near as much.
Where in America?
I also have the same Ergo seat and had the same issue with you regarding the emblem not being fully inserted. In my case, it was due to the pinched cover material between the emblem and seat - specifically the gap between emblem and a post like structure from the seat. If you clear the seat cover material around that area, you can fully insert the emblem so that it can be fully latched. Hopefully my explanation makes sense!
Appreciate that suggestion. I will give that a try. Thank you!
You can see a glass as being half full or half empty.
Yes, you can.
Now am scared of getting this bike, my dealership only have 1 of this bike 😢 and a couple of RC 390 for $4400 BN on sale with add-ons free, now leaning towards. I just need a budget starter
This is my first bike. I gotta say I have loved riding it but all of these issues are indeed common. Part of me thinks I still would have gotten the bike even knowing what I know now. It is an absolute blast to ride!
To be honest the RC390’s have similar issues so I don’t think you are gaining anything by going with the RC390. However, if the RC390 is a better deal because it comes with whatever add ons they are including, I would understand that decision completely. These Vit’s are great to ride but potential owners should know it’s very possible you’ll have to deal with issues here and there.
I agree with hybridher0. Lots of issues but still would rather have this than an R3, CBR, Ninja, Royal Enfield, etc.
Very handy info, cheers!
Appreciate you watching. Thank you!
I heard something about blowing gaskets
These 373’s are known for head gasket failure. However, to expand on that it’s not really the head gasket that’s the issue. It’s poor finishing on the deck surface and the head that makes it push the gasket. The newer 373’s are better but it can still be an issue sometimes.
You’re right!😂
What’s the speed difference with the new front sprocket? I’m looking to buy a used svart and will definitely be riding on the freeways
You gain about 1000 rpm or so. For me when I’m cruising on the freeway at 75-80, my tach is at 6800-7000 instead of 7800-8000. Of course these numbers are approximate as I don’t even know if our displays are accurate. It does make a considerable difference however. You of course lose some low speed snap, but these bikes won’t win any races anyways regardless of the gearing. Mine will still pull up the front wheel if I chop the throttle in first, no clutch.
@@ridewithKY awesome. Thanks for the info!
No problem!
All the parts are made in China for sure.
Isn't it illegal to decat the bike? are you not worried about a fine?
No, not worried.