Josh, the titans were the Tennessee Oilers for 2 seasons in 97 and 98 and wore those unis. Tho I agree with you that it's no accident that they wore them vs the Texas
Your point on drafting Harrison Jr., Josh is the only reason I don't want him. Bc it bothers me that QJ has been so bad that we have to consider drafting Harrison and basically have to dang near give up on Johnston. This is why personally I prefer Bowers to Dave's point. The match-ups the security blanket. Plus like you guys have mentioned before all the better Chargers teams have had hall of fame level TEs.
Here's a few questions 1) do you think Sean P regrets not waiting a year for the Chargers job to open up? and on the other side of that coin, knowing who the Chargers draft last year with that 1st round pick . would you have given up that pick for Sean. i agree with Josh that SP has had a lot of highs and a lot of lows. so not sure he would have been that get of a pick as HC. 2) what percentages do you apply to WR'S VS the loss of Eric Bieniemy to KC's downfall on offence ? 3) would you guys get Matt Millen's Detroit lions flash backs if the chargers drafted 2 WR's in a row with their 1st round picks? 4) What are you guys thoughts on Daniel Jeremiah as a potential GM? on a side note, the other guy that was on everyone's "most wanted list" as HC (when the chargers chose to go with Staley,) Brian Daboll. has been almost just as bad as a failure in NY as Staley was in LA. keep up the great work . keep keeping it real and keep dropping truth bomb and most of all keep calling out the chargers and their incompetence.
Alex Singleton is pretty good too, he’s the Phillip Rivers trash talk of LBs. Gotta love it. In the first matchup he barked off in Herbert’s ear after a sack, never seen anyone do that before. We need some nasty guys on this team like that. When blood is in the water they go in for the kill. When the games close they throw dirt in the opponent’s face. Need a guy like Singleton but he’s a bronco so I want someone to make his lights go out when he sack Herbert and punks him lol
“Quentin Johnson is a bust” ..? ..and the sun is hot ..I would’ve fired Telesco on that alone ..Johnson looks aloof out there ..has brick hands and gives up on plays ..and he’s slow towards the ball ..Herbert is done with him bigly ..
If I were a starting qb, I'd be weary if I saw Stidham on my team. It's officially a trend now for Stidham to replace the starter at the end of the season due to an injury clauses...
They may have known what they were getting as a player in Wilson, but maybe not as a Person. I heard he turned into a Prima Donna when he went there. Payton wasn't having any of that. Keep Wilson ash on the bench and force him to retire. I heard Payton was virtually begging for that Chargers job and Spanos passed on him for Staley
The Russell Wilson situation is another example of the dangers of having corporate ownership of sports teams, and the NFL seems to be where that's the most prevalent. For all intents and purposes, Wal-Mart owns the Broncos. Another example of that is the fact that, for more than half a century, the Detroit Lions were basically a subsidiary of the Ford Motor Company when William Clay Ford owned the team. The New York Jets, another perennial non-contender, are another example of that, as they're owned by the head of the Johnson & Johnson pharm company. Now there have been exceptions to that, the most notable of which was the late co-founder of Microsoft, Paul Allen, who owned the Seattle Seahawks when they were perennial Super Bowl challengers under his ownership, making all three of their Super Bowl appearances during his tenure as the team's owner. Another exception was hotel magnate Barron Hilton, as it was while he owned the Chargers that they became the AFL's standard-bearer, winning five division titles in the six years he owned the team before being forced to sell it when he had to choose between the Chargers and the family hotel business. But Allen and Hilton are exceptions, and not the rule, when it comes to corporate leaders being owners of professional sports teams, because history tells us that, when corporate leaders become team owners, it means trouble, because they think of only one thing. How to make their franchise more profitable, and if it means not trying to win, then so be it.
@@arroyocesar1988 Except for the fact that, if reports are true, this decision was made by the front office about 2 MONTHS ago. At the end of October, the Broncos front office had given him an ultimatum to either restructure his contract or get benched. Now I have no doubt there was animosity between Sean Payton and Russell Wilson that likely went back to when their teams were fierce NFC rivals a decade ago, and that Payton might have held a grudge against Wilson because of what happened those years back. But I believe this decision wasn't made by Payton, but rather by the front office, and Payton was simply following orders from higher up in the organization. Now I can understand wanting to give Stidham a shot to prove himself, and when he got a shot with the Raiders last year, he was very impressive at times, particularly against the 49ers, when he nearly upset one of the truly elite teams in the NFL, but the circumstances of this smell rotten, especially if reports of the front office effectively ordering Payton to bench Wilson, who's among the NFL leaders in TD passes and TD-to-INT ratio, if he didn't restructure his contract, are true.
Brother in Christ if we’re trading a rusher it has to be bosa not Mack… and I agree but we shouldn’t get 2 offensive players in round 1. We need Marv if he’s available or bowers, then we go Nate Wiggins out of Clemson. Wiggins>mid-aid
QJ would 100% think that the Chargers gave up on him if they drafted Harrison Jr. QJ clearly has a weak mental game, based on his comments about how much he appreciated Staley's pep talks. If you look around the league at the best receivers, they're the most confident dudes on the field (think about Keenan considering retiring because he wasnt starting his rookie year). They have to play like they're the best and no one can stop them. QJ plays like he's hoping the DBs will ease up a little so that he can get a participation ball at the end of the game. It's up to QJ to change that narrative, and he was given the opportunity on a silver platter this year. Sorry, dude, results speak for themselves.
I know we want Marvin Harrison jr. That most likely won’t happen so we want Brock Bowers. Honestly I would rather want Malik Nabers instead of Bowers. Kennan is getting older and Mike dub is injury prone. Johnston is a bust and Palmer is decent. I think we should keep Everett and get him more involved.
I don't think it matters. The NCAA is going to suspend him in 2024 and if he leaves for the NFL it doesn't hurt his reputation. Serving a 3rd suspension at Michigan isn't good.
Go watch Nate Wiggins tape, I think he’s CB1 over Kool Aide but picking either of them at 5-7 is way way too big of a reach. We have so many holes this draft needs to be BPA and get some blue chip players. Drafting for need and taking a CB at that premium of a pick is reckless. Those CB will probably go somewhere from 13-20. With our first pick I thinks it’s gonna be Bowers or Nabers. I honestly believe MHJ will be gone to ARZ.
Depends on , IF ARZ is still sold on Murray at QB ? He gets hurt a lot & has NOT shown much , when he is playing the last 2 to 3 years ? Another QB , might be , what they have in mind ? BUT , we will see ? Problem is , if ARZ passes on him , I see the Giants NOT doing so !
Keon Coleman will be a better pro reciever than Harrison Jr. People will see the freak nasty.. He is the freak athlete in the draft.. carried FSU with the run game.. Incredible would be a great fit for the chargers to replace Mike williams with more upside.
Russell Wilson WILL be remembered as the BEST NONE white QB & only 1 of 2 That have a ring , Warren Moon maybe NO # 2 , now , but to ME he's still NO # 1 for them ? , R. Cunningham , M . Vick , C . Newton , Le Mare Jackson , J. Hurts have DONE nothing , yet , ring wise & they just RUN to much & NEED to learn to pass , some YEAR !
@@robertd.7060 let me just say something to you when you want a team to have top 5 picks do you know what that mean? That mean you was the fifth worst team in the entire NFL that’s all I wanna say.
KC is a great team that will get fixed in a snap. Everyone else is a train wreck Donkies are F’ed and the Bolts and Raiders can upset great teams but are not a consistent team.
Too many people in Wilson's ear and probably his wife was the biggest yeller in his ear and head got way too big, thinking he was all that and better then everyone else. Thought he was going to build an empire in baseball etc...
Now I bet all three of you can't wait for them to get rid of Justin Herbert so they can get a way better quarterback since winning is the quarterback stat maybe we can get Denver to trade for him he's so bad it won't affect our team anyway right guys we don't need any more of those Justin Herbert 2 minute drive specials am I right😅
The reason why you draft Brock Bowers is to support Justin Herbert if you're not going to trade him to Chicago cuz he can't win games . But let's pretend like we keep Justin and give him one more chance in that case Brock Bowers is the best pick because a generational tight end helps the entire offense where would Rivers be without Antonio Gates where would Fouts be without Winslow
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Don’t sleep on Nabers, boys. I think he’s gonna have an amazing career. His burst is unreal. In and out of cuts.
Actually, I’m going to double down. Nabers is gonna have a better career than MHJ. Write that down.
Love Nabers. He’s a baller! Definitely wouldn’t be upset if the Chargers took him.
I agree.
Hey Koolaid! Guarantee that's what his dad had in mind when he was named.
Josh, the titans were the Tennessee Oilers for 2 seasons in 97 and 98 and wore those unis. Tho I agree with you that it's no accident that they wore them vs the Texas
Hello Larry , Curly & Moe !
I'd take Bowers over Harrison as well. Reason being Star WR come along almost every draft. Bowers in a once In a generation guy.
Dave is right. Ryan Leaf’s 2nd start was at Vanderbilt Stadium vs the Tennessee Oilers.
Hit a 4 spot to night. Had 5 on Clev, over, 1 anytime TD B. Hall, and over 1.5 td passes Flacco. 5 got me 70
Your point on drafting Harrison Jr., Josh is the only reason I don't want him. Bc it bothers me that QJ has been so bad that we have to consider drafting Harrison and basically have to dang near give up on Johnston. This is why personally I prefer Bowers to Dave's point. The match-ups the security blanket. Plus like you guys have mentioned before all the better Chargers teams have had hall of fame level TEs.
These podcasts are way too short
Thank you, Mark. That's very nice.
@davepalet of course it's must see TV wish my dad was a Chargers fan so I could have him watch.
I 1000 % , agree !
Here's a few questions
1) do you think Sean P regrets not waiting a year for the Chargers job to open up? and on the other side of that coin, knowing who the Chargers draft last year with that 1st round pick . would you have given up that pick for Sean.
i agree with Josh that SP has had a lot of highs and a lot of lows. so not sure he would have been that get of a pick as HC.
2) what percentages do you apply to WR'S VS the loss of Eric Bieniemy to KC's downfall on offence ?
3) would you guys get Matt Millen's Detroit lions flash backs if the chargers drafted 2 WR's in a row with their 1st round picks?
4) What are you guys thoughts on Daniel Jeremiah as a potential GM?
on a side note, the other guy that was on everyone's "most wanted list" as HC (when the chargers chose to go with Staley,) Brian Daboll. has been almost just as bad as a failure in NY as Staley was in LA.
keep up the great work . keep keeping it real and keep dropping truth bomb and most of all keep calling out the chargers and their incompetence.
I could see NE picking him up and letting Maye sit behind him for a couple of years. Pitt is also a good call... he could still be a decent stopgap.
That would be funny to think Future, Ciara, and Russel Wilson in the same city. If Wilson went to the Falcons. 😅
Alex Singleton is pretty good too, he’s the Phillip Rivers trash talk of LBs. Gotta love it. In the first matchup he barked off in Herbert’s ear after a sack, never seen anyone do that before. We need some nasty guys on this team like that. When blood is in the water they go in for the kill. When the games close they throw dirt in the opponent’s face. Need a guy like Singleton but he’s a bronco so I want someone to make his lights go out when he sack Herbert and punks him lol
Harrison or Bowers. All day every day and twice on Sunday.
How do you feel about Nabers or Coleman?
“Quentin Johnson is a bust” ..? ..and the sun is hot ..I would’ve fired Telesco on that alone ..Johnson looks aloof out there ..has brick hands and gives up on plays ..and he’s slow towards the ball ..Herbert is done with him bigly ..
If I were a starting qb, I'd be weary if I saw Stidham on my team. It's officially a trend now for Stidham to replace the starter at the end of the season due to an injury clauses...
After shllacking of broncos by dolphins sean payton said="that was hard to watch" as if he didn't coach that debacle. Zero accountability
Who's the worst Chargers draft pick ??? L English or Q Johnston ??? ( Both 1st rounders)
Damn that Larry English. He looked great in a t-shirt and shorts but terrible in an NFL uniform.
RYAN Leaf , by far ! But , later on we did good in the Vick trade ! So GLAD , they didn't want him !
@robertd.7060 True , But that wasn't the question 🤔 Right about the trade 👍
They may have known what they were getting as a player in Wilson, but maybe not as a Person. I heard he turned into a Prima Donna when he went there. Payton wasn't having any of that. Keep Wilson ash on the bench and force him to retire.
I heard Payton was virtually begging for that Chargers job and Spanos passed on him for Staley
I would love to know how that situation between Payton and Spanos went.
The Russell Wilson situation is another example of the dangers of having corporate ownership of sports teams, and the NFL seems to be where that's the most prevalent. For all intents and purposes, Wal-Mart owns the Broncos. Another example of that is the fact that, for more than half a century, the Detroit Lions were basically a subsidiary of the Ford Motor Company when William Clay Ford owned the team. The New York Jets, another perennial non-contender, are another example of that, as they're owned by the head of the Johnson & Johnson pharm company.
Now there have been exceptions to that, the most notable of which was the late co-founder of Microsoft, Paul Allen, who owned the Seattle Seahawks when they were perennial Super Bowl challengers under his ownership, making all three of their Super Bowl appearances during his tenure as the team's owner. Another exception was hotel magnate Barron Hilton, as it was while he owned the Chargers that they became the AFL's standard-bearer, winning five division titles in the six years he owned the team before being forced to sell it when he had to choose between the Chargers and the family hotel business.
But Allen and Hilton are exceptions, and not the rule, when it comes to corporate leaders being owners of professional sports teams, because history tells us that, when corporate leaders become team owners, it means trouble, because they think of only one thing. How to make their franchise more profitable, and if it means not trying to win, then so be it.
Interesting
Idk I think it's just another example of what happens when a head coach doesn't get to pick his QB lol
@@arroyocesar1988 Except for the fact that, if reports are true, this decision was made by the front office about 2 MONTHS ago. At the end of October, the Broncos front office had given him an ultimatum to either restructure his contract or get benched. Now I have no doubt there was animosity between Sean Payton and Russell Wilson that likely went back to when their teams were fierce NFC rivals a decade ago, and that Payton might have held a grudge against Wilson because of what happened those years back. But I believe this decision wasn't made by Payton, but rather by the front office, and Payton was simply following orders from higher up in the organization.
Now I can understand wanting to give Stidham a shot to prove himself, and when he got a shot with the Raiders last year, he was very impressive at times, particularly against the 49ers, when he nearly upset one of the truly elite teams in the NFL, but the circumstances of this smell rotten, especially if reports of the front office effectively ordering Payton to bench Wilson, who's among the NFL leaders in TD passes and TD-to-INT ratio, if he didn't restructure his contract, are true.
If joe Flacco makes an afc championship appearance is he rated higher all time than Russell Wilson ?
After Selecting Marvin Harrison Jr, trade Khalil Mack, allen or Williams together for a chance to get bowers or kool aid
Brother in Christ if we’re trading a rusher it has to be bosa not Mack… and I agree but we shouldn’t get 2 offensive players in round 1. We need Marv if he’s available or bowers, then we go Nate Wiggins out of Clemson. Wiggins>mid-aid
However I doubt a team would give us a first for those 2 we would have to maybe throw in some future picks
Kyler Murray for Russ both could use a chage of scenery.
Any team with a good defense is a threat ..and unfortunately all 3 teams in the AFC West have better defenses than the Bolts ..
Leave Mario alone!!!😂
QJ would 100% think that the Chargers gave up on him if they drafted Harrison Jr. QJ clearly has a weak mental game, based on his comments about how much he appreciated Staley's pep talks. If you look around the league at the best receivers, they're the most confident dudes on the field (think about Keenan considering retiring because he wasnt starting his rookie year). They have to play like they're the best and no one can stop them. QJ plays like he's hoping the DBs will ease up a little so that he can get a participation ball at the end of the game. It's up to QJ to change that narrative, and he was given the opportunity on a silver platter this year. Sorry, dude, results speak for themselves.
I know we want Marvin Harrison jr. That most likely won’t happen so we want Brock Bowers. Honestly I would rather want Malik Nabers instead of Bowers. Kennan is getting older and Mike dub is injury prone. Johnston is a bust and Palmer is decent. I think we should keep Everett and get him more involved.
Do we think if Harbaugh wins a national title or loses to Bama? What favors Harbaugh's chances to be our HC for the Chargers.
I don't think it matters. The NCAA is going to suspend him in 2024 and if he leaves for the NFL it doesn't hurt his reputation. Serving a 3rd suspension at Michigan isn't good.
@@davepalet appreciate that insight 🙏🏿. Commence Harbaugh Watch 2024!
Go watch Nate Wiggins tape, I think he’s CB1 over Kool Aide but picking either of them at 5-7 is way way too big of a reach. We have so many holes this draft needs to be BPA and get some blue chip players. Drafting for need and taking a CB at that premium of a pick is reckless. Those CB will probably go somewhere from 13-20. With our first pick I thinks it’s gonna be Bowers or Nabers. I honestly believe MHJ will be gone to ARZ.
I’m with you on drafting a corner with the first pick. I would prefer Naber, MHJ or Bowers. Who do you believe is the best non-QB in the draft?
Depends on , IF ARZ is still sold on Murray at QB ? He gets hurt a lot & has NOT shown much , when he is playing the last 2 to 3 years ? Another QB , might be , what they have in mind ? BUT , we will see ? Problem is , if ARZ passes on him , I see the Giants NOT doing so !
Keon Coleman will be a better pro reciever than Harrison Jr. People will see the freak nasty.. He is the freak athlete in the draft.. carried FSU with the run game.. Incredible would be a great fit for the chargers to replace Mike williams with more upside.
He's a dog
Russell Wilson WILL be remembered as the BEST NONE white QB & only 1 of 2 That have a ring , Warren Moon maybe NO # 2 , now , but to ME he's still NO # 1 for them ? , R. Cunningham , M . Vick , C . Newton , Le Mare Jackson , J. Hurts have DONE nothing , yet , ring wise & they just RUN to much & NEED to learn to pass , some YEAR !
CHARGERS 23 Broncos 20
I hope, NOT ! As a Chargers fan, do NOT F#CK this draft order up !
@@robertd.7060 let me just say something to you when you want a team to have top 5 picks do you know what that mean? That mean you was the fifth worst team in the entire NFL that’s all I wanna say.
KC is a great team that will get fixed in a snap. Everyone else is a train wreck Donkies are F’ed and the Bolts and Raiders can upset great teams but are not a consistent team.
Dave Josh Mario wow 41 42 35 against our defense not problem I want bolt city to have show Monday after the game I want see your faces let’s goooo
Chargers need to get rid of Bosa and hire me
Too many people in Wilson's ear and probably his wife was the biggest yeller in his ear and head got way too big, thinking he was all that and better then everyone else. Thought he was going to build an empire in baseball etc...
Now I bet all three of you can't wait for them to get rid of Justin Herbert so they can get a way better quarterback since winning is the quarterback stat maybe we can get Denver to trade for him he's so bad it won't affect our team anyway right guys we don't need any more of those Justin Herbert 2 minute drive specials am I right😅
So let me get this straight Dave Kyler Murray is not that bad but Justin Herbert should be traded to Chicago because he can't win games
The reason why you draft Brock Bowers is to support Justin Herbert if you're not going to trade him to Chicago cuz he can't win games . But let's pretend like we keep Justin and give him one more chance in that case Brock Bowers is the best pick because a generational tight end helps the entire offense where would Rivers be without Antonio Gates where would Fouts be without Winslow
We've all said we're Justin Herbert fans. We want him to be clutch and stop getting his passes knocked down. We've never said he's not a franchise QB.
Watch MH Jr. Not impressed. Speed yes. Hands no! Alligator arms just like QJ.
What has chargers done since manning left?
Moved to LA
Manning left ??? What ???
Josh stop it bama QB NOT BETTER THEN JJ YOU WILL SEE ON MONDAY YOU WILL BE CRAYING 😢WITH DAVE
stop lien on rus bozo