Meta Knight Should Be Top Tier. What's Stopping Him? | Character Crisis

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  • Опубліковано 25 гру 2024

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  • @RufioTheThird
    @RufioTheThird Рік тому +57

    I'm so happy I found this video. I absolutely love the idea of this series, such a fun concept.
    I love this channel and can't look forward to more of this after I watch your previous Character Crisis videos. Such a comforting series that feels so sincere which is content I've really missed. It really celebrates all fighters in this game that serves as a love letter to something you like first and content second which is something I always try and look for

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +7

      I'm so happy it resonated with you so much! I've been wanting to make content about smash for years but never had an idea I was happy with until now. Here's to the next 70 characters!

    • @RufioTheThird
      @RufioTheThird Рік тому

      *I can't wait
      (Man, I wish you could edit pinned comments. Oh, and BTW, Dr. Mario hype)

    • @RufioTheThird
      @RufioTheThird Рік тому

      @@TuesdayTastic It's a fantastic idea for a Smash series, and I'm happy you find enjoyment in what you make, man. Here's to the future of Character Crisis!

  • @oathstar18
    @oathstar18 Рік тому +42

    When Brawl came out I mained MK without knowing he was broken, so when a friend and I went to a tournament and was told MK was banned, I knew I was screwed. Now many years later I now know he was indeed broken lol.

  • @thomas1pharma
    @thomas1pharma Рік тому +69

    I didnt notice that your character moves his mouth until now lmao

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +20

      It's new technology haha, this is the first video in which I started doing that.

    • @thegreenrobby7402
      @thegreenrobby7402 Рік тому +7

      There's definitely an upgrade in your production quality starting with this video, and the mouth thing is just one part of it

  • @benross9174
    @benross9174 Рік тому +46

    MK is mostly held back by a really linear neutral, in my opinion. A lot of chraracters can just play around/cover his grounded options like dash grab/DA, and keep MK out forever/outbox him. He is also very inconcistent, as his combos are both character and percent specific, and at mid percents he is just not that scary of a character that generally has to work a lot harder to win neutral. Very tough character to solo main, although there are MUs he is great in, like heavies, most swordies, and especially floaty characters. Very strong CP character/anti meta threat, but pretty complex for a secondary. Great comain though

    • @ax8914
      @ax8914 Рік тому +4

      imo mk players should use more of his other tools in neutral (dtilt fair nair etc.) and play more patiently with the character because he definitely has tools in neutral

    • @benross9174
      @benross9174 Рік тому +3

      @@ax8914 yeh for sure, dtilt is relly good, but if DA is outspaced dtilt isnt gonna cut it. Thts why he has to whiff punish to function. He struggles a lot to get in, and is forced to be super patient to function

    • @RNGuice
      @RNGuice Рік тому +1

      @@benross9174That really sucks man😭
      Meta Knight was originally intended way back in the dawn of his introduction to be a sort of glass cannon rush down character . Unfortunately the smash team didn’t know of all the things that he could do on BOTH sides of that coin, from keeping himself alive longer through hitstun canceling, one of the best overall recoveries in smash history, a move that has priority over almost everything, a tiny sword that’s a little too disjointed, ledge regrabbing, and a system that doesn’t promote combos for anybody but like five maybe six characters. Then moving into smash 4 they had an entirely different development team. And they didn’t know what the hell Meta Knight was supposed to be, all they knew was that he was broken and needed to be nerfed. So ever since smash 4 we’ve been stuck with a broken (like little mac, not Kazuya) character.

    • @benross9174
      @benross9174 Рік тому +2

      @@RNGuice I mean he is still pretty good, has some meta relevant einning MUs as well like ROB and Min Min. He does feel like a shadow of his former self ofc, but he’s not bad

    • @RNGuice
      @RNGuice Рік тому +1

      @@benross9174 I do wish he was better though

  • @dragonsswarm1987
    @dragonsswarm1987 Рік тому +14

    I've mostly played Ridley in the few times I've played smash ultimate, so this series seems like a good overview of the characters I would be interested in trying out.

  • @LuigiXP
    @LuigiXP Рік тому +7

    Great video as always! I always thought Meta Knight was a fun character but hes too complex for me too play often also I love how Palutena's hair turned gray because of the green screen lol anyways great video

  • @austinhyer9274
    @austinhyer9274 Рік тому +3

    Keep this up man! Love the series!

  • @omurice2447
    @omurice2447 Рік тому +4

    WAIT THE MOUTH MOVES IN THE PNG HERE AS WELL??
    Awesome vid as always! Being able to drop by the streams watch MK grow was a lot of fun.

  • @RobertGunn
    @RobertGunn Рік тому +2

    This is a great way to start my Tuesday mornings!! Thank you!

  • @afternoonz1126
    @afternoonz1126 Рік тому +15

    Watching your combo I really do think that you could main MK! Being able to already do some of those shows you can click with him with the time!

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for the encouragement! Meta Knight is definitely the kind of character I could see working for me as long as I put in the time.

  • @happymaster3290
    @happymaster3290 8 місяців тому +2

    4:36 the reason that hit is you teleported Into the fighter you were pushed forward but still hit because of where you should've been

  • @jamielikesbread
    @jamielikesbread 3 місяці тому

    the irony of entering another tournament to get your revenge as META KNIGHT is honestly what makes this video for me

  • @hudsonfoster456
    @hudsonfoster456 Рік тому +1

    I didn’t even realize that you only had 2k subs until looked at the views and sub count on this video. Keep up the good work man! I hope by the end of the series you have around 50k subs.

  • @exo_vvlpine
    @exo_vvlpine Рік тому +5

    I can't believe you made me a meta knight believer
    Glad to see my first main in smash 4 getting his video
    keep the good work ❤

  • @Torchy0033
    @Torchy0033 Рік тому +1

    Like the combo video!

  • @bixielikesbloons
    @bixielikesbloons Рік тому +1

    Yo I made it into the video. GGs from malfunky, loved the video. Keep up the good work!

  • @darklight1171
    @darklight1171 Рік тому +1

    Ive mained meta knight for years from brawl to 4 but than didnt buy ultimate a year later not even touching the past games so the rust was alot and the difference felt weird but im back in a meta knight server and will reach way beyond what i was before! (Also amazing video and you didnt do bad at all for being inexperienced👍)

  • @AndrewAJT
    @AndrewAJT 6 місяців тому +1

    Good series

  • @DuyuCoyote
    @DuyuCoyote Рік тому +1

    Here's a suggestion. A slept on character that can dominate in the right hands. 2213 Mii Swordfighter. Shuriken, Gale Stab, Stone Scabbard, Power Thrust. You will run into some of the same things ridley struggles with but I find 2213 MiiSF edges out with more options against that pressure. Good luck.

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому

      He was on the latest poll (lost to Dr. Mario though). Looking forward to trying him out someday.

  • @dirt_dert_durt
    @dirt_dert_durt Рік тому

    Increasing character awareness is an excellent service, especially in a fighting game with as huge a cast as Smash. I'd personally like to see you take on more Heavies

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +1

      Heavies are going to be very interesting to play since I'll probably do well with them given that they are easier to pick up compared to the average character.

  • @keeshuunedited5678
    @keeshuunedited5678 Рік тому +1

    Love Meta Knight. He was the character I wanted in Smash the most all the way back in Melee. He used to be one of my worst characters, now he's one of my best. He's just so unique!
    All that said, it took me a long time to realize why top level players don't use him much:
    - Too much effort for what you get out of him. Important for not draining your mental stamina in long tournaments. There are other characters that can do what he does more consistently, easily, and in some cases even better. One of my favorite matchups in Smash is Meta Knight vs Pikachu. They both have a lot in common. Lots of disjoints, tiny, fast, absurd recoveries, up air combos, randomly extremely powerful options and they both want to get early KOs off-stage. Though Pikachu just feels like a character that can adapt to new situations better, and t-jolt lets him more easily force things. I might be a bit biased though, since the best player I know moves like ESAM with Pikachu, and I might also be going "Pikachu is mr potential" with the little bit of time I've put into Pikachu out of curiosity.
    - Primary game plan is rather linear. In general you can overwhelm most people with Meta Knight's speed an disjoints, but going up against the best of the best that I can attack, it feels like you're kinda getting stuck into bait & punish strats where the opponent is dictating the pace of the match the whole time. I just woke up so it's kinda hard for me to describe that despite him having all the traditional qualities of a top tier, his kit just doesn't work well enough together like other characters do, and I feel like he's the only character like that off the top of my head in the roster.
    Still going to use the heck out of Meta Knight though because he is so fun to play, and everyone tells me that they love fighting my Meta Knight. Just the existence of dimensional cape adds an extra mental stack on the opponent sorta like having Samus's fully charged charge shot available at any moment the second the opponent forgets about the move, and I get addicted to characters that have a way to induce some sort of "fear" or things for the opponent to be cautious of.
    Also there are some matchups that just feel absurdly easy with Meta Knight ,even though when I look at matchup charts he's pretty even across the board.

  • @9Skrate
    @9Skrate Рік тому +1

    hahaha GGs Tuesday, those sets were so great... Looks like I got a new rival

  • @EmiDelta
    @EmiDelta Рік тому +4

    You should do Robin next
    ..wait.. who?

  • @trongtran8951
    @trongtran8951 11 місяців тому +1

    9:15 using this stage as green screen. Smart lol.

  • @crispydrag00n77
    @crispydrag00n77 4 години тому

    Abadango was so fun to watch play this guy! Idk if I spelled it right.

  • @helm8830
    @helm8830 Рік тому

    Great vid loved it

  • @pooking7i631
    @pooking7i631 Рік тому +2

    fun fact: Mattbro (the ganondorf you lost to) has beaten Sparg0 before, so theres nothing to feel bad about.

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому

      I knew he was good but had no idea he beat Sparg0 dang

  • @georgelongcoal1117
    @georgelongcoal1117 11 місяців тому

    This is great!

  • @GiantCaliber
    @GiantCaliber Рік тому +3

    The Kirby casualties are… alarmingly high…

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +1

      Can't let that lazy kirby keep getting away with it

  • @D3NPC
    @D3NPC 8 місяців тому +1

    As soon as I saw the thumbnail I said "NOT AGAIN"

  • @PabulousPablo
    @PabulousPablo 3 місяці тому +1

    Leo brought back the Meta Knight and beat Doramigi with Meta Knight. Hopefully he's able to show this character's true potential.

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  3 місяці тому +2

      I was watching those games last night and was saying "I wasn't wrong for believing in Meta Knight!" I was also saying "That's my goat" a lot haha

  • @Vermillion808
    @Vermillion808 Рік тому +1

    MK has
    - maybe the strongest disadvantage state in the game
    - practically ZERO LAG
    - large combo tree
    - good ledge game
    His problem is his super linear neutral that he's forced to stay in and his lack of any real range (except for d-tilt) and his main moves being only active for 1-2 frames.
    He's part of the Counterpick meta due to him actually countering meta relevant chars.

    • @aidenawe9359
      @aidenawe9359 Рік тому

      Strongest disadvantage state, best recovery in the game. Your right on the rest of them.

    • @Vermillion808
      @Vermillion808 Рік тому

      @@aidenawe9359 he does not have the best recovery in the game, that would be pika as he is protected 100% with high priority large hotboxes and doesn't need to expend his jump offstage to get back to ledge.

    • @aidenawe9359
      @aidenawe9359 Рік тому

      @@Vermillion808 what about Pichu? Meta Knight is one of the best recovery in the game. I forgot about Pikachu.

  • @jmcalcy69
    @jmcalcy69 Рік тому

    MK was the first character I ever played when Brawl, my first smash game, came out

  • @Sh1v3rIZAE
    @Sh1v3rIZAE Рік тому

    I think people just outright forget that Meta Knight has 6 jumps, a frame 2 airdodge, a teleport move with only 18 frames of endlag (which can finish in the air mind you.) A frame 10 move that can be used to evade most of the cast online, even if you don't hit them with the move, and a frame 4 dair that's spammable with a frame 6 dair that's also spammable depending on where you go to camp. Then of course he can always use side b to reverse condor someone for trying to edgeguard him recklessly as a callout.
    The issue with most Meta Knight players competitively is they play him like he's Fox, he's not. He's far from it. You got all sorts of Luigi players camping, you got Kazuyas sitting in the corner like they just dealt with an abusive parent, and Falcos doing everything but playing the game, and Lucario players quite literally doing everything but playing the game, but then the MOMENT it's Meta Knight's time to play defensively it's like every notable Meta Knight player just shuts their brain off and goes full QP Bowser mode. With all due respect, western Meta Knights especially, even Bonk! seem to be autistically obsessed with just hitting dash attack into bridge/ladder, then just seem to shrug their shoulders once they inevitably drop the combo during a game. Not to say it's all they do in neutral, and I get why they go for bridges/ladders (aggressively speaking bridges and ladders is all Meta Knight has outside of maybe edgeguarding) but they definitely seem to play the game like they're trying to clip some random 7 year old on QP.
    The reason why I'm suggesting playing lame here sometimes is because some MUs he just can't win unless the opponent just randomly chooses to be bad. Meta Knight, when played defensively, perfectly, could in my opinion be THE BEST character in the game. Sure, we have other Multi-Jump characters with higher air speed, but it doesn't matter as they don't have the other options that MK has. Once Jigglypuff burns all of her jumps, she becomes very predictable, and her being so light makes her explode for making a single mistake, and the floatiness ironically makes her easier to hit sometimes because she can't rely on camping in the same spots MK can. Pit, while I think his camping can be really good, is a sitting duck once his "Stay back" breaks. Ridley and DeDeDe are just way too fat to work obviously. And Banjo can camp, but it's more on the zoning side and even then it's adaptable.
    Sure Meta Knight is a fastfaller, but he also has the best recovery game in the game, especially for camping. Every character in the game has places they just outright can't hit, Meta Knight can abuse this by "blindspotting" the opponent. For example, Min Min is REALLY annoying to fight until you just stay in the air on Kalos. Sure, Fox is fast, but his range is non-existent. Sure, the Belmonts are very annoying to fight, until you realize they have very linear attacks. On top of that hitting the ground faster is ironically a good thing, as it leads into more jumps (6 of his jumps burn 7 seconds each time he does it.) Then you of course never know if he's going to land normally, land with a FFAD, or simply spam DC to get out of the way. If the MK is crazy they could go for Mach in neutral
    Meta Knight players just seem to be completely throwing this out of the window while other character mains for the most part don't give a damn about how people see how they play (Look at Sonic and Samus players,) I just don't get it.

  • @zora2532
    @zora2532 3 місяці тому

    UA-cam is trying to tell us something

  • @tarded_4
    @tarded_4 Рік тому

    Hold up, I just realized Only of Tuesdays only uploads on tuesdays!

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +1

      That's the gimmick haha now you know when to watch my channel

    • @tarded_4
      @tarded_4 Рік тому

      That’s nice to know

  • @willemgloudemans1442
    @willemgloudemans1442 Рік тому

    Maybe it's just me, but I get the feeling your voice sounds different in this compared to other videos? Were you using a different set-up?
    edit: this isn't meant as a judgement, I just noticed

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +2

      I was using a different setup and I was recovering from a cold

  • @stun7884
    @stun7884 Рік тому +1

    Wait, did the mouth always move? If it did then thats wild

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +1

      It's new as of this video. Do you think it's a good change?

    • @stun7884
      @stun7884 Рік тому

      @@TuesdayTastic yeah, I think it looks really cool. It's the little things like that that makes me see how your content gets better with every episode

  • @danielhansen9011
    @danielhansen9011 Рік тому +1

    I miss his brawl iteration

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому

      If every character was as broken as Meta Knight in Brawl it would have made for a very cool and degenerate game.

  • @nameme270
    @nameme270 Рік тому +2

    yo can you please try ice climbers next

  • @thunderd7904
    @thunderd7904 Рік тому +1

    Can I make a tiny suggestion? It looks really weird when your guy opens his mouth. I’d just leave it in its normal position when you’re talking when it’s on screen

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому

      Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to get the opinion of more people before making a decision.

  • @EeweepPickle-pg7gl
    @EeweepPickle-pg7gl 5 місяців тому

    Abadongo got 5th at smash factor 8 with mk

  • @kinzietheostrichman
    @kinzietheostrichman 8 місяців тому

    I really think that eventually MK will just be better luigi

  • @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
    @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 Рік тому +1

    I really hope ultimate manages to persist. There’s still so much more to explore with the characters.
    Also… why are we calling Leo the best ultimate player of all time? This game hasn’t been out nearly long enough for that title to mean anything.

    • @blank_ivysaur
      @blank_ivysaur Рік тому

      Because he went 2 years without placing under 2nd at an event. No one will ever match that in ult’s lifespan

    • @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
      @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 Рік тому

      @@blank_ivysaur Huh. So are there smashers from earlier games with that kind of record?

    • @blank_ivysaur
      @blank_ivysaur Рік тому

      @@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 zer0 back in smash 4 went about 2 years without placing lower than 2nd and holds the longest win streak of anyone in history at 56 events.

  • @RNGuice
    @RNGuice Рік тому

    If you like meta knight then you might like Kazuya

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому

      I've already made a video about Kazuya actually! He was really hard to learn at first but if I'm being honest he's become one of my most played characters since making the video.

  • @俺は誰でもない
    @俺は誰でもない 11 місяців тому

    Sadly meta knight suffers from being over nerfed because of brawl

  • @turt4046
    @turt4046 Рік тому +1

    You should try robin next, gotta be one of the most underrated characters in competitive

    • @TuesdayTastic
      @TuesdayTastic  Рік тому +1

      I have a friend who mains Robin and is consistently getting top 8 at our locals. Robin is lowkey really good.

    • @turt4046
      @turt4046 Рік тому

      That's nice to have someone to learn from whenever you do end up playing robin. Il be sure to vote for him on the poll.

  • @rpepero4774
    @rpepero4774 10 місяців тому

    sorry but this isn't very accurate. his neutral is what holds him back, and it isn't very tricky. he's very linear in neutral, and it holds him back in many cases. His back air isn't as strong as you make it out to be, and you're overhyping dimensional cape way too much.