Redesigning Blacksmith Guillotine Tool
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- In this video, I show my progress with redesigning my guillotine tool.
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Thanks. Glen
I really appreciate you showing us the process, it feels like I learn more when you are developing a process rather than just demonstrating a tried and tested technique. Thanks Glen.
Making a video of me experimenting like this also helps me learn quicker. Lots of good comments...
I like watching the inventive process.
Glad to have you along. Still need to make adjustments to this.
Glen, very nice job on the new design. Just a suggestion for the short upper die problem. Just cut a half moon notch on the top die holder of the tool for a little area to use a a finger grab area for the upper die. Nice job as always with all your videos. TP
This is a really good idea. I'm exploring options and like yours the best. Thanks for sharing.
Nice design change, I think the pipe idea will work great. You could weld on a striker face to the short top die to add length. Thank you for sharing your tool.
I've been using this new design with pipe guides. The dies are a bit sloppy but it's working fine. I'd rather not add to the tool since I'm trying to save weight. And so I may even do a total redesign from this. Still scratching my head...
I like the new design of the guillotine tool. Looks like something I could fabricate myself and that's why I like your channel so much .
This is definitely something a lot of folks could make. The hard part that I've found is getting the measurements all just right, especially since I'm doing this with saving weight in mind. But the cutting/pasting parts are very doable. Thanks for being a Patreon supporter, etc.
I recommend hot filing the inside of your pipe guides. its what i did when i home brewed 3 guides myself. keep up the great work.
I was thinking similar hot rasping would sort that out in seconds.
Good idea. Someone else recommended a vinegar bath to remove scale but hot filing is also a good option which could remove more than just scale. Thanks.
I appreciate the good suggestions.
I’ve heard you mention Mr. Hodges and other supporters several times in the past. From a deadbeat viewer too poor to help... thank you for keeping GS Tongs up and running.
Watching and commenting is support enough. It's not necessary to donate to watch. Thanks for sticking around the channel.
Always enjoy your thought processes and learn from you!
Glad to have you watching.
Gotta love those moments where you look at something and think, "Oh yeah... I'm a blacksmith." Happens all the time.
I have those moments too but with me, it's more in a questions form - Am I a blacksmith?!
First off, been watching and lurking for quite a while. I've always enjoyed just how clean and refined all of your work is. Thank you for sharing and keep making all the goodness!
I like how you say you've been "lurking". I think I do the same with a lot of UA-cam channels I watch. Thanks for your support.
A great, simple to make guilllotine-tool. Yours and Mark Aspery are for me the winning ones. Lots of crappy ones for sale and expencive. Kind regards Blacksmith Filip Ponseele
I appreciate your support. I still need to do some thinking on this but feel I'm going in the right direction with this redesign. Thanks.
try a vinegar soak for 24hrs after youve forged the pipe to shape, you may remove enough scale that the dies will fit.
Just removing that scale can make a big difference. Thanks for sharing.
Im a bit conserned with the tool bending. I managed to bend my guillotine tool to an unusable state. Personally i would go back to the oldest design to combat that and would just pay more for shipping. Your gilloteen tool is by far the cheapest ive seen and comes with dyes so i dont think itle be too bad on the customers. I am also conserned with mushrooming and recomend lengthening the top fuller a bit.
I'm sorry to know of your trouble and thanks for your input.
You could just drift them over a bolster plate, that will allow more of the drift to get in. Maybe also run a file a few times on the inside?
I thought about that but need the bolster to be just the right size so as not to have surrounding steel get sucked in and deformed. But a good idea for sure. Thanks.
Maybe flip your pipe blanks over as you drift and drift from both directions like a hammer eye.
It's not obvious but I was doing that. I just need to tweak this a bit but in the meantime, the milled guides are the way to go. Thanks.
You could also relieve the corners of the guides with a dremel tool.
I didn't think of that - a good idea. Let's see where this goes. Thanks.
If the top die was an inch wider than the bottom die, you could raise it with the workpiece and slide the workpiece into position, freeing up the hand you were using to raise it. Try it.
A good idea. But I also have to consider weight with this tool so it's tricky balancing act. I'll see what I can do. Thanks.
Heard about a big train crash in Taiwan this morning, and my first thought was "I hope Glen and his family are safe!"
We are all fine. Thanks for your concern. Wish you and yours the best as well.
@@gstongs Thanks Glen, good to hear!
Good work as always. We featured this video in our homemade tools forum this week :)
I love mine - thank you Glen!
I appreciate your business and comment. Thanks.
Need to improve the drift a little, even if it means making a specific shaped one with slightly larger corners to more replicate the machined tool shape to get better corner clearance. Then you don't need to relieve the die corners. Thanks Glen.
Yes, exactly spot on advice. And I also need to consider how the pipes expand and shrink when going from hot to cold. Thanks.
very creative. looks good.
So far so good with this design. Thanks for watching.
the yellow flakes coming off of the pipe make me think there's zinc in the pipe. be careful
Either zinc or paint coated on the pipe. Looks more like zinc though some paint does look like that when heated. Either way not good .
I've taken note of that and will be careful with that unknown pipe. Thanks.
I purchased black carbon steel pipe - no zinc but definitely paint. I will be cautious with this. Thanks.
I like the tool.. I kinda wished I had an anvil with a hole...
If it were me, I d like to see a retainer for the lower die.
A set screw or welded nub, a punched in dimple.. something to retain the lower die as you pick it up, and not have it fly out....
I could see in a more calculated fabricating movements of an item, the need for a full anvil face or to revert to use of tool and just to pick up the set and out goes the bottom tool flying about, loosing your heat. hopefully not in a critical moment....
Your points are well taken. I'm happy enough with what this is for the price but I may also do a total redesign and incorporate ideas like yours. We'll see...
Hi Glen, maybe get a single oversized die made to shape the pipe around
I agree, that way when it cools and shrinks itwill fit
Yes, this is a good idea. I'm still fumbling around with this - we'll see... Thanks.
I'll see what I can do. Thanks.
It’s a very good.
Hello, be careful with those pipes they look galvanized and the fumes can cause metal fever when you take to much of it, some blacksmiths got really sick of it, even died, but great video !
They don’t look galvanized.
@@jackshadow325thank you, but the yellow color when he first put it out of the forge look like it, but if it's not the better. The piece of information to retain was never use galvanized steel in a forge with little ventilation.
I don' think the pipe in the video contains zinc but I'm being careful. I bought new pipe that is just carbon steel. Thanks.
I'd think if you did the initial shaping of the pipe guides, your machine shop when mill them to final dimension for a fraction of the cost of milling the entire thing
He could probably make a broach out of the die steel by annealing, cutting notches in the sides, and hardening/tempering.
This did cross my mind and is something I might explore. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Someone else mentioned a broach. I have thinking to do... Thanks.
the fiirst pipe didnt work because the metal shrinks as it cools , so even tho your drift fits in the finished product wont
Yes, so I may oversize the piece that I'm using to get the pipes to proper shape and size. More experimenting needed.... Thanks.
Looks like there was zinc on that pipe. Not good.
The new pipe I have is carbon steel, no zinc. The pieces I used in this video were scrap and I'm not sure. Thanks for pointing that out.
Man oh man if you only had a fly press. I know you love tai pei... And i am sure the stock for tongs is crazy cheap there, but surely coming home to America would benefit you business-wise as far as shipping costs and product availability
Since steel is a traded commodity, prices are very similar in different countries. I would love a fly press and if/when I have space, I will get one. And yes, being in the US would benefit me greatly in some ways. Once the wife is ready, we'll move back. Thanks.
Hi Glen. Have been on your website and what you do is art👍. Can I buy since I live in Denmark. Lars
This is from his website: I will ship to anywhere in the world with the shipping rates being the same as for US customers (since I myself am overseas).
Hi and yes, if the shipping is not suspended, I will send to anywhere. Thanks for watching and for checking out my website.
Thanks for the help.
Хорошая работа ! Звук удара по наковальне глухой и мне интересно из какого металла она сделана ? Привет из России !
Сбоку у него магнит стоит,он звук гасит.В
одном ролике он показывал.
@@Hood-serg Спасибо ! буду ролик искать - интересно устройство
My anvil is made from 4145 steel. It has a dull sound because I have magnets attached to lessen the ringing. Thanks.
Perfectly said. Thanks.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
what radius is the DOM -OD ? they both look very creative designed tools ..great video Glen
Why not just use square or some other profile tube and weld 2 peaces to the third?
I did try square tube in the past. Maybe I need to revisit that. Thanks.
Great stuff!!!
Love the design, How do I order one?
Ordering is as simple as emailing me - glen03@earthlink.net
Never mind, I found your website.
OK and thanks.
@@gstongs Can you send me the price of this guillotine set? pintoblades@yahoo.com
Thanks!
Have you considered purchasing or making a broach to cut the internals of the pipe?
Someone else mentioned this but I'm not sure how that would work - used hot or cold? I need to explore this. Thanks.
@@gstongs Take a look a this ua-cam.com/video/7n1r5XfVkyk/v-deo.html or this ua-cam.com/video/e26kCaPjX8E/v-deo.html pretty sure it is what you need. A well constructed broach could be driven with a heavy hammer but a cheap ebay press would have than enough force.
is this the style you are currently selling? Your site shows a different style.
Hi, I've changed my guillotine (fullering) tool style to what you see on my website. But I can still make this style here if you're interested. Email me if you would like more info. Thanks and Merry Christmas. Glen: gstongs@gmail.com
What do you use for die material?
1050 medium carbon steel. Thanks.
Why couldn't a person add washers under the bottom die to make it taller
Its pronounced "gilloteen" not "geeoteen", the letter L is'nt silent!
it is in the French pronunciation.
The American pronunciation (and French) drop the L sound whereas the British keep the L. Thanks for watching and sharing.
Yes, and American English ('Merica) don't pronounce the L sound.
What was the pipe size?
Very lazy smithng.....