"They Were WRONG!" - Neil deGrasse Tyson In Heated Vaccine Debate With Patrick Bet-David
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In this short clip, Patrick Bet-David, Neil Tyson and Adam Sosnick talk about whether people should be forced to take the vaccine.
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A true man admits how little he truly knows. An idiot will work like mad for you to think he’s right, even when he’s not.
Hahahahha let me guess Pbd is right and the scientist is wrong. Of course!!! You sycophants are astonishing 😅😅
@@gerk7238 Yes, the celebrity scientist (who's paid to push a narrative) is not automatically right just because he's a scientist. 🤣 Also, you're deliberately mischaracterizing Arthur here, as he's not trying to flatter anyone. He made a vague statement and didn't even name any names.
It's obvious that YOU are presuming Neil to be, and recognizing Neil as, "the idiot working like mad to make you think he's right." Once again, it was a vague statement, no names mentioned, you filled in the blanks yourself. If you didn't think that to be true, you may have said, "I know, it's amazing how much of a true man and how humble Neil is in his knowledge, and that Patrick is like a con artist with his logical fallacies. Why the hell is he trying to convince us so hard? What does he have to gain? Does he really care about people that much, he's gotta convince us "for our own good," because we're just too dumb to understand.
We all know that's not true at this point though. Thanks for confirming it. 👍
@@gerk7238 well the scientist (astrophysicist) repeatedly claimed that it blocked transmission (get the shot to protect others), which is demonstrably false. So you’re choosing to believe the scientist because he’s a scientist (in a completely different field), regardless of the fallacies he’s spewing, yet WE are the sycophants??? What a good little media parroting sheep you are. Bless your heart.
Well said😊
@ge rk hahahaha, yeah, right? Because everyone knows scientists are never wrong.. hahahaha
“It’s easy to fool a man, but it’s nearly impossible to convince him he’s been fooled.” - Mark Twain
Love this!!!
Completely impossible if that man is the one fooling everyone.
AWESOME quote! That's why keep going deeper and deeper...
This guy is an idiot. It was TRIALS and those should be named as safe or sure as hell not mandated.
Lmao jokes on you this man is not being fooled. He is an actor and a shill he knows exactly what he is doing.
It's hard to win an argument against a smart person, it's impossible to win against a dumb one.
It’s amazing how people can’t understand this that come from the perspective of I am the only person that matters.
hahahahahaha
“It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
Exactly. All these podcasters getting views on vaccine denialism will never be able to accept that the science is clear that the vaccines are safe and effective.
Abiogenesis research included.
The irony of this comment
If enough money told him that the vaccine never harmed anyone he'd be screaming it. Personal greed over moral compass is what leads to this B.S.
@@marvinheemeyer6660 the Bible got it right. 👍
Neil is so smart that he thinks we're stupid. That's how smart he is
The summary of the last 2 years right there.
That's not intelligence. The intelligent person understands that for anything to be believable, it has to be consistent. There's been massive inconsistencies with the CHINA virus. Neil has never been a credible "scientist". He's a lobbyist.
Haha yes so smart
When people kiss your ass all day you tend to get an undeserved sense of entitlement.
and you are so naive to think you are smart. That´s how naive you are
the longer he blabbers the less confident his argument gets
why, are the words he’s using too big for you to understand?
@@jaironunez7470 did I mention anything about not understanding? Or is English your second language
That's because you don't understand science or how things work in the real world.
@@tbitv2035no need for you to mention anything about you not understanding. That part is obvious.
@@nicholashuff4198 I didn't mention not understanding first, or even comment on that, so maybe brush up on your reading comprehension. But by all means, enlighten me to the science. I'm curious as to how things work in your version of the "real world."
You can also make the same argument with people developing natural immunity after having Covid as to why people stopped dying. Along with the initial more lethal strain burned out.
No you can not.
@@dannydickylilly I just realized what kind of people are watching this video. Science deniers and cave people coming to see Neil talk about stuff over their heads. No use in trying to explain it to them.
Nope
@@dannydickylilly
Why not?
@Dteshome85 because what data supports this? I could say fairy's heal, everyone? It's just a valid with no supporting evidence.
Fun fact: Federal contractors who work 100% remote were still mandated to get vaccinated or lose their jobs.
I can confirm. Got an attorney and they left me the fuck alone
@@beautifully_scarred_lea you go girl
The fake vaccine card worked every time. I know more people without the shot then I do with it. They looked at the cards like a bouncer looking at an ID they didn’t care as long as it was a real issued card.
A lot of corporate employees too. Full work from home
“To promote a safe work place”. Crazy. They were pushing those doses for the shareholders.
Spoken like a dedicated soldier of the “Ministry of Truth.”
NdT has his goosestep down like a pro.
Holy shit it was enraging listening to him make up shit to justify his Pfizer allegiance
😄
So true
1984 read it asap!
If the strain evolved then why didn't we lower the enforcement accordingly? If the shot (not a vaccine) vaccine only helped me personally, not the larger group?
Ya it wasn't a vaccine, but for some reason calling it a vaccine is never labeled as misinformation. It was a 'leaky vaccine' meaning that it was very specific in the strain it was effective against....meaning basically that vaccinating everyone was in effect SELECTING for new strains. Whereas natural immunity has a broader immunity. Reading RFK jr's book "The Real Anthony Fauci", the first chapter demolishes all of Neil's arguments. Side note: Neil loves stats, I don't believe for a sec he doesn't know which states did better. Seems like something a scientist would look into but all of a sudden he is "mr.Oh I don't pay attention to such things, I just play a scientist on tv"
Instead of mandating a person to take the vaccine because of the risk of contaminating others, let anyone who fears being contaminated take the vaccine. Then everyone lives peacefully. That's how it worked out in Nigeria. Our old people weren't wiped out. Vaccination rate in Africa was 5% tops. The death or critical hospitalizations due to covid were almost non existent.
@alichefortune862 Sorry, that won't work because not everyone who needs protection can get vaccinated. Attach a government link to the data.
Because that is not how contagion works and your comparison is horrible, population density and transit between major cities in the us and nigeria is not even on the same chart.
Jfc this like seeing a lighthouse in a storm. Every comment is about how long he speaks. Is he not supposed to answer questions? Braincell lacking-brains abound
People in the hospitals died from the government mandated TREATMENT PROTOCOL. Remdesivir was KNOWN by our government to have killed EVERY AIDS patient that took it.
@@damp2269 kindly breakdown how contagion works in respect to population density and see your argument fall flat
The worst part of the whole situation imo, this kind of conversation wasn't even allowed when people were deciding to take the jab or not.
shouldn't that tell anyone with a brain something?
Exactly. And look at other countries that decided to go Vaccine-optional. Look at their spikes, their dips, and their stablization per capita and the timeline involved. And look at how it affected their economy. It's better to just go with herd immunity and allow folks to make their own decisions. Being "vaccinated" doesn't stop the spread of COVID. It's just a booster shot. You can contract it vaccinated or unvaccinated. It makes no difference to the rate that it's spread. So just get COVID and move on, if you're healthy and not elderly of course. I hope people remember the social experiment of control COVID was, and choose freedom of the individual first, and not authority.
@@charlespancamo9771 Most people don't have brains. They just do as they're told.
@@Landstalker1999it's genius isn't it friend, most are programmable empty vessels and the others have to waste our valuable time and our valuable calories explaining things to them like a man can't just "become"a woman and compete in womens sports without having a biological advantage. Well played
Do you think it happened because they weren't sure it is good or bad, or because they were 100% sure it's bad?
To breathe is good. Try to take away my breath and I will fight for it. You don't have to advertise to me breathing and show breathing dancing nurses.
I like how much Neil has historically complained about the imbalance of power that businesses have; But has no issue imposing that power on citizens within a country.
Yes, because he's a utter hypocrite
He is complete defender for the state
COVID vaccines are 'Capitalism', snowflake - private industry solving a problem and making money from the solution. But the people who got you vaccinated don't want you to support "Socialized Medicine"....
Dang you just explained women
Even he has a mini tyrannt living in his head. Under the right conditions, he too, could round up people he thinks are low information.
PS- this is America. There is NO social contract that says a few guys in DC get to tell me what to do with my personal health.
Let's say you go to a restaurant. While you are placing your order, the person who will be making your food is taking a shit. The law says he must wash his hands before returning to the kitchen. Did "a few guys in DC" just violate his rights by telling him what to do with his personal health? Or is the idea to protect you from getting sick by him? I'm not looking to start a fight, nor did I support a full-on vaccine mandate for everyone. I'm saying there's a broader picture to consider when deciding who needed to be vaccinated for the safety of others.
I bet you had your kids vaccinated for school without hesitating.
@@brianschehl8534you give up your rights for "safety" we have been warned about this and it is happening
I still think this man (Tyson) exemplifies my Dad's favorite saying, "You can have all book smarts in the World, and still not have the sense God gave a pissant."
Pat might be the best interviewer ever. He is so good at not taking it personally and waiting for the right time to insert his points.
He should have asked Tyson what the speed of science was. None of my scientist friends seem to know.
Facts
100%, you can learn how to be a better communicator just watching him. Ha
Pat did awesome this Neil guy talks over everyone that interviewed him
I’m willing to be part of a social contract where both parties are held responsible for the truth, aren’t benefitting financially, and don’t practice deception.
Well said! 🙏
Amen!!
ok cave man
@@mgoogleuser8011 ok “m google user” bot
Then you sir have never been to McDonald's
Crazy, UA-cam still censors FACTS on this subject
Yup! Lawsuits are being WON, and they are still trying to convince people that it’s “safe and effective” unbelievable!
They should never be able to force us to put anything in our bodies never
They've always done it. You just didn't have a problem with it until your political party decided it was bad.
@@jlb9210what are you on about? I'm not a member of a political party and knew right away not to take the heart attack juice. It's a common sense thing. Not a political thing. Most people I associate with is an independent ( critical thinker) and all of them refused to take it. None died by the way. Maybe you misunderstood the reason people didn't want it. I'm not at all surprised.
@@jlb9210 apparently you seem to think big pharma, and big government give a fuck about you or your health. wake the fuck up, its insulting how complacent you are.
Nobody was forced to take the vaccine. Everyone had a choice. If the choice was not a good choice, they still had a choice.
Irony. “One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong.” Neil on his Master Class about science…
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
He is WRONG. Dead wrong
@arsonwars you are a failure as a human
What my dad would call a "Highly Educated Idiot" 😄
Can you explain where he is wrong?
Admitting your wrong is the hardest thing a person can do and some will never do it.
Remember when all the MAGAs laughed at Fauci for saying we could have a million Americans dead of Covid?
Still waiting on that apology.
@@sthubbins4038 Remember when all the flu deaths disappeared during COVID? Who are all the MAGA's?
It’s destroying this country. There was a time when Americans knew how to deal with being wrong. Those days are gone.
You're*
Is this why Trump never admits he is wrong?? lol
I didn’t know the social contract was based on what scientists tell us.
LoL
Where is the social contract in the Constitution? This guy is literally making shit up. What happened to my body my choice?
Contract is an agreement between two or more parties. A mandate is an entirely different animal.
@@jongarcia982 Article 36 (3) of our Constitution emphasizes the obligation to protect the national health of the nation by stipulating that “all citizens are protected by the state in relation to health.” This means that the right to health as a social fundamental right is the most important aspect of health rights
The Steven Segal of science
Seagal is much heavier, he's also a much better at martial arts than Neil has ever been at thinking
Indeed! What a joker!
@@atois2521 He’s an entertainer. He’s a “celebrity scientist”. The dude literally is a clown. He’s the autistic kid who grows up wanting to be an astronaut so you let him go on a test ride rocket and for the rest of his life he tells people he’s been to the moon. 😂
😂For the win, the Seagal of science!😅
@@JosephHurtsellerslol y'allare so jealous of Black people it's comical.
Neil should have saved us all the time and just said what he means: "Other people don't know how to think, but I do."
He’s a scientist so you have to believe him.
Neil deGrasse is wrong. We all know that the vacine only protects the recipient.
@@noisearchitect well thats what they always said in the past. It protects the recipient.
It's easier to fool someone than get them to admit they've been fooled.
Facts
Also the smartest people can craft many logics to preserve their bias.
How does that apply here?
Surprising considering the scientific method is to be rigorously skeptical trying to constantly prove things wrong, to make them more valid as a result. Meanwhile scientists buy the news harder than anyone i know.
See religion.
There is an entire system in place, and we ignored it.
Required to protect the protected by getting the protection that didn't protect the protected in the first place
I don’t trust anyone who goes from 0-100 when even slightly pressed and still doesn’t directly answer the question.
yeah too bad PBD couldn't answer what is to be done about someone who is risking others by not getting vaccinated..
@@artie218 stop it don’t make me laugh 😂
Liberalism is a mental disorder where emotions rule.
Hes a narcissist
I guess you don't realize that even the vaccinated risk passing covid to both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. The scientists didn't know it at the time, because hardly any studies done, but some highly qualified virologists were saying that it was a likely risk but they were censored and ridiculed. Some even warned that the vaccine could cause many variants to evolve. How can we listen to the science when the science is censored?
I never understood people that claim they read the science and start off the argument that it wasn’t tested.
It wasn't tested... enough. And, well, the results are right there. Fact of the matter is, the human body is such a complex construct that it's borderline impossible to test any vaccine against all possible permutations of that body. But, with just three quarters of a year of testing, you've barely begun scratching the surface of the number of possible permutations. Heck, from one individual body to the next, you can have such wildly different reactions to even more basic compounds that, well... what is perfectly healthy for one individual is actually lethal to another. Peanut allergies? How about lactose intolerance? And on and on and on.
And people genuinely thought that three quarters of a year of testing a vaccine was enough? It's... unrealistic. The malaria vaccine took 40+ years to develop. That is the sort of timescale which is more realistic with vaccines. Heck, we've been trying to create an HIV vaccine for decades as well by now and, well... no dice yet. Really... the SARS-2 (COVID) vaccines just weren't tested. That really just is the long and short of it. By numbers alone, the number of people or bodies they could have tested it on pales in comparison to the number of people that the vaccines were rolled out to (the entire human population). Divide one by the other and, well, the result is approaching zero. So, yeah, mathematically it remained untested before being rolled out.
It’s hysterically funny that Tyson thought that Mary’s first name was Typhoid!🤣😶
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain
This quote is more true than might seem at first glance. I happened to be at a workplace where I encountered some people who were like this and after a long time of being provoked, I snapped, got dragged down to their level and yeah, they then beat me with experience because the behavior they displayed in an attempt to win, I honestly find it still hard to believe adults are capable such absurd and embarrassingly stupid, non-sensicel and brash behavior to get their way.
Like really, this quote is an interesting food for thought, but if you're forced to actually experience every word of it. Few things in life are as soul crushing as this.
Oh and I might add my own variation from this experience - "Never let stupid people know you're smarter than them, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."
Neil is obviously not the stupid one, ever!
kina virus released to fk up the elections...millions dead, billion+ with heart/organ issues...evil know no bounds, 100% intentionally released...just to get one man out of office, one man they could not buy/control....Godless people will always create hell !!!
@@paddaman2003
Good one. Seriously though, he shouldn't speak scientifically beyond astronomy. He's ridiculous
@@pbot6593 he's a scientist!
Sadly with each passing day we can see the impact this awful policy has had on the UK. Tied up in red tape and tariffs with lower GDP than before the pandemic whilst the others in the G7, including Italy, are above. The lower GDP means we do not have the headroom to pay our way in the world and must resort to borrowing.Whilst there are rich people in the UK; a great many of us are poor and now we are poorer still. What steps can we take to generate more income during quantitative adjustment?I can't afford my hard-earned £600k savings to turn to dust
Well, the top players and pros have exclusive information and data paths that are not disclosed to the public. Knowing the strategies to use during this time is one thing and having the right information to execute them successfully is another.
@Clara Lynn How can I touch base with CASEY? what are her services like? is she verifiable? do you think she can help me, I live in Canada.
Why don't you look for more work, rather than sitting on your ass complaining on UA-cam comments. A lot of people seem to figure it out, I'm sure you could to if you put some effort towards it.
Amazing how Brexit doesn't get ANY blame for the UK's economy being worse than other European countries' economies. It's almost like you actively ignore the single biggest voluntary stupid decision of the UK's economy in the last century to blame...*checks notes* preventing millions of deaths. News flash: dead people can't contribute to the economy.
I have yet to hear an answer to the great quesion of "If it works, why is you taking it not good enough for you."
Cos it's a virus. Viruses do what viruses do, they mutate.
How do you know it works? It wasnt working in animal trials for 10 years. They brought the experiment to humans despite that; despite knowing it had 20+ adverse conditions, despite it just being gene therapy and not not a traditional RNA vaccine and for only one spike protein. On top of that they tried to fudge data that showed the mortality of the placebo was actually better than those who took the shot. Thats just some of the digging to learn of all the shortcomings of a failed shot, but thats exactly the stuff they tried to hide and wanted to hide for 75 years so that you could simply bow down and buy the rhetoric and slogan of Safe and Effective so you could be just like the lab rats. You guys bought it hook line and sinker without questioning anything. This is the same kind of thinking that went into panic to buy up all the toilet paper i the country instantly. Think before you act. Not everything is as advertised.
The answer to this is widely known, and there are three main reasons:
1. Generally, the only way to stop a significant virus outbreak is for most of the population to gain immunity. There are calculations done during outbreaks to determine the percentage of the population needed to have immunity in order to beat the virus. Without immunity, we sometimes see diseases like measles resurface and spread when a lot of people don’t get vaccinated.
2. Some people who are immunocompromised or have other medical conditions cannot get vaccinated, so we can help protect them by reducing spreadability.
3. Two vaccinated people are much less likely to infect one another than one vaccinated person because vaccines are not 100% effective.
@@metapotamuswhy do you believe this? Look 4 years later after this. It was all a farce for something bigger to come. Why would you believe and put your trust in anyone on such aa high level with little information? This is forcing
I'd love to see a conversation with Elon and Neil about vaccines...
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong.”
Great comment
PERFECT
Neil is not listening to his own advice. Science should be open to questions on vaccine safety. Instead, Fauci and his minions squelched any questions about the safety of the vaccines.
The ironic thing is when laymen use this quote against people who are actually highly educated.
@@Notorious1441 Education is no measure of intelligence... Tyson is the poster boy for this atm.
I saw a lot of these “trials” volunteers getting severely sick and was then completely ignored by the “scientists” that got them to volunteer in the first place
Yeah, because people were drinking alcohol!!
I used to think he was a scientist, now I know he's a political hack!
Oh shut up, you didn't see a damn thing
They werent real trials since they werent double blind. Anyone who knows anything about hypothesis testing knows that if a study isnt double blind, then it isnt a reliable study. Neil is willing to bend best practices to shill for the pharma companies. He probably got a few million from them.
@@kateanderson8384 true. What good is the scientific method if you dont use it?
Exactly! Like the twelve year old that is now in a wheelchair with a feeding tube. Garbage morals shaking a finger in your face..bs.
Hospitals were too busy making tick-tock videos in the Empty facilities.
It takes 3 to 6 months just to get approval for something as simple as a colour change to tablets. A protocol change is min 6 months.
"if you want to live on the beach unvaccinated, that's fine" -Neil
But Neil forgets that people were barred from going to the beach and some were arrested for doing it.
I think he said that because he understands how powerful vitamin D & Salt water is though he never openly admit it in regard to cv-19. Those are the real reasons people were banned from the beach. Two powerful immune boosters.
Get him!!!!
But it's ok for dirty homeless to roam around the beach vax or not
@@V_ii wtf. He did not say it for that reason. He said it because of the space between people. He LITERALLY explained it in this vid.
The banning was due to the mostly gathering of groups while at the beach and during the travelling that might increase infected individuals you come across with! Don't take it out of context! If you own your own beach with no one around that's what Neil meant to say!
I've seen very few people that are more in love with their own opinion this man loves the sound of his own voice
He's the host he should be allowed to speak all he wants.
@@Esus4Hack reply
@@Esus4 uh....op was referring to Neil lmfao
@@DEV3N87 okey dokey
chortle snort guffaw
I'd like to know his source on the statistics for college graduates versus high school graduates versus doctoral graduates. Because my family and I had the vaccine and no one was asked their education level or how many years of college we may or may not have finished.
It might be a poll.
Why is covid 19 gone so quickly as it came on? No one is really focusing on it now. People want to choose and live their lives
Living is hard enough 😢😢😢
Tyson didnt sell out, he was always propped up exactly because he follows the narrative
Just like bill nye
Yeah. He’s always been a sellout
@@spicemarine1884 I know right, I can't believe how many people believe Nye and Tyson's Darwinian evolution.
@@spicemarine1884 Bill Nye and his bowtie is on their own level.
He shits on the legacy of Carl Sagan.
He is right I don't want to "take the virus", he said the silent part out loud!
Yeah, they had trials, they did not however have double blinds and they were extremely short term trials. They were for all intents and purposes, untested.....this man is supposed to be a scientist
If you read the research papers you’ll see that they did have a double blind test, a large part of clinical trials in general unfortunately is actually just setting up trials, finding volunteers, limited resources etc. the trials for covid was fast tracked meaning more resources, priority and multiple clinical phases occurring at the same time which is a risk for the volunteers but they signed knowing the risk. mRNA vaccines is not a new technology, we have very fast and accurate genomic techniques and covid-19 was similar to past viruses and the antigens was identified quickly, another thing to add is that even if something does have negative side effects which surprise is everything it essentially goes benefit-risk assessment (common practice in science and is why scientists should not control government) If anything covid highlighted how quickly science can achieve something with unlimited resources which is sad, think of how each time we go to war MASSIVE technological advancements are made.
@@ciantiernan6494thank you, sir. So sad that people continue to drink the Kool aid. None of the "reasons" behind anti-vaxx opinions came about until AFTER it was heavily politicized. But that's how humans operate. They form their opinions based on EMOTION, then seek justification afterward.
@@ciantiernan6494or it was planned ahead of time. You assume trust with all this. I don't know why you assume truth.
@@user-lo4np1bs1r i have no idea what your comment has to do this conversation but if I’m right in my response then of course it was planned ahead of time, it’s called pandemic preparedness….Theres departments solely dedicated to this. The same idea is applied to everything. If something goes wrong you have procedures to follow, think of what you do In work if something fails or goes wrong, work doesn’t stop a plan is already prepared albeit might not be perfect but it’s something. I want objective truth and science is a hell of a way to find objective truths. I assume trust because of the objective truth backing behind it.
@@ciantiernan6494 You assume people to do good, that isn't logical. You assuming every procedure is done under scrutiny you never witness. You put alot of faith in people without realizing it.
Better questions would have been “was it tested for autoimmune issues”, “was it proven that the spike protein stays at the site of injection “, “ was it proven that you couldn’t pass covid on if you got it” , was it proven there is no impact on the heart”
Spot on , it's the only interview that I felt let down by Patrick, hes normally brilliant at taking apart stories that dont add up
Neil Tyson is an astrophysicist, not an immunologist. Being a scientist, he has no trouble deferring to the expertise of actual medical researchers and professionals, instead of feigning knowledge where he has none.
The goal was to reduce death. Unfortunately the virus kept mutating and what was true for earlier cocid strains isn't true for the newer mutations. But go ahead and ask these questions about contracting covid. Everything has risk
@@tobyforstater7046 That's why there's boosters. Try again.
@@tobyforstater7046 except it was never tested for this and sold as having been.
I didn’t think I could be a bigger fan of PBD than I already was, and yet, the amount of respect I have for such professionalism is inexplicable.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
im under the belief that neither the vaccine nor the virus are as harmful as both sides led us to believe.
Pundits and demagogues on both sides of the spectrum have a vested interest in keeping their followers afraid and hateful towards the opposing side.
Covid has been a blessing for these people! without covid, or the fear of vaccines, many of these pundits would lose thousands or millions of followers.
Pat is one of them. It’s all a cynical ploy for clicks, views and likes on BOTH sides.
PB & J is the best !
Sure is a great interviewer.
But he's been this anti vaccine , kinda right wing " truther " shit.
Today, he repeatedly felt he raised a Trump card, and Neil wonderfully explained that there was nothing he mentioned that was up for debate. These are facts based on the data available .
Neil can you show me where the “Social Construct” part is in the Constitution? Or do I need to be a Scientist with special Scientific Eyes to find it?
A social contract? I haven’t signed any contract.
Start by looking up the definition of social contract. When you think you said something smart...
@biggy3rd you're wasting your breath on these people bro
@@biggy3rdThere is no social contract, Tyson lied.
Ever here of an unwritten rule. It's kind of like having common sense. 😊@maxstrike3022
Do you work in a hospital or nursing home. ???
Tested is not relevant if the test isn’t scored. 9 months isn’t long enough for an accurate scoring as evidenced by the 4 year scoring’s evaluation that would never have allowed it to be released. The truth matters no matter how it’s opposed.
I feel like PBD is not only a very smart man, he’s an honest man confident enough in who he is to politely listen, even when it’s apparent to him that his guest is being less than honest or forthcoming with the truth.
lol that's sooo true
And OJ is not a murderer.
I like when NdG wanted to link alcohol consumption to heart disease and then realized it could be used to argue against lockdown measures. He backed right out of that one! Great job here by PBD - when a charlatan is speaking - let them speak. His hands were shaking like crazy...
Were that true, there would be no increase in deaths of people below drinking age....spoilers..
@@alandockrill4924 exactly.
Well PBD was suggesting that it was due to the vaccine, yet Neil listed all the other things it could be and PBD agreed, so I'm not sure how you say Neil looked bad in that exchange, instead of PBD.
@@pj256 Patrick said it COUlD be due to the vaccine. The vaccine shill said impossible.
Timestamp?
Why would an employer fire you if everyone else in the same work place is vaccinated? If the vaccine was indeed effective, how would you be putting them at risk?
It’s not the same if it’s a hospital. In the military, people live in barracks where airborne diseases spread quickly.
It’s great to question your actions. It’s not great to risk others lives because you’re still questioning.🧐
This guy found his hill and we all are watching him die on it. I love the internet.
😂😂😂
We all he croaks soon too. 😂😂😂.. have a good night neil grass Tyson 🍗
Neil when he’s speaking and someone tries to interject a fact: “Let me finish.” “Hold on.”
Neil when someone else is speaking and he disagrees: “No no no no no!”
He's a true TWATWAFFFLE
Well that's because his opponent is arguing in bad faith. Neil listens to and responds directly to accusations the host presents. But every time Neil counters with his own argument or accusation the host just completely ignores it and moves on to the next subject. So it's obvious that either the host is completely ignorant and doesn't know what he's talking about therefore he cannot mount a rebuttal, or he's arguing in bad faith just spouting off talking points to get a rise out of his audience and overwhelm Neil. The ladder is a common strategy employed by the right, because it takes 10 times the effort to disprove something than it takes to make the accusation in the first place. So their end goal is to just exhaust you through an endless series of time wasting exercises until you get annoyed and they can claim victory when you exit the conversation
@@ticenits1926 sounds like you are describing exactly what Tyson did? what exactly about his arguments was enough data and proof for you to take it harder from the daddy government? listened three times to this argument so far and have yet to hear Tyson make a relevant case that does not ignore the OBVIOUS fallacies of the method we used to get here. he is pretending we didn't break science here. he knows he took part in it. look up the vaccines we rushed in the 80's and 90's and what they did to kids, look up the 3-5 generations of polio vaccines it took to STOP ending the lives of kids by accident or paralyzing them for life etc. in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS>.. to rush this, is fallacy, and ANY scientist who says i am wrong is being paid to. The claim we are not good at statistics but the world being based on statistical analytics, is the big "uh huh" you should have with him too. especially when other programs have been ended abruptly and VERY publicly due to FAR LESS complications then we are seeing now.
like he literally goes off about how statistics mean nothing, then makes an argument USING STATISTICS showing that covid will do bad to you... so this is mr. tyson: don't use statistics they are bad, but let me describe your risk choices with covid using statistics... your argument is MUTE from mr. tysons OWN arguments. sheesh...talk about polarized. Let me guess right wing politics make you evil by default? all thsoe evil right wingers hey? just wow.
@@ticenits1926 not sure what interview you're referring to, but what you describe is not what occurred in the video i just watched above
@@ticenits1926 yeah…..except none of that happened here,😂. You do read like a leftist, making a point that doesn’t apply to argument at hand
When he says “watch” he’s really saying “watch this I’m gonna bend these words and I’m gonna sound right”
This guy is smart as hell but he is a physics and an astronomy major. No medical background.
It's funny how he never thinks he's wrong under any circumstances and he raises his voice in order to rule the conversation he thinks he's the smartest guy on the planet and he's not
The host literally thinks the same way. Except he’s calm, that’s the only difference. Both are hard on their POV
Sometimes he interrupts without even having his next sentence thought out. at the 7:13 mark you can see him raise his hand, say "watch", and then think of his next sentence
Tyson claims to be a scientist but it's obvious he really really hasn't understood what has really gone down. The vaccine was a colossal failure and Tyson doesn't even know it. It's obvious he hasn't studied the issue at all. He's basing his position on what science should be not what the current reality is. Sorry but he doesn't know what he's talking about it!
He's trying to keep his job. If he were honest, Hayden Planetarium would have a new director by morning.
Far from it
This is a guy who never gets challenged and acts like a little child when he doesn't get his way.
He will not debate anyone without a script.
Don’t forget he’s the front runner for Masonic misinformation/propaganda. he’s literally their self praised “smart” puppet
I never signed a social contract . Globalist thoughts. I'm free, let me take a risk.
Neil is a peddler. Does not follow statistic!!. Really. He belongs on CNN.
Just take the Tuskegee injections, it's mandatory.
To this day I still do not know how anybody can have any credibility left after they say that Neil is the smartest man on the planet
On the planet? I don’t even think he’s the smartest guy in that room.
@@Dan0TheMano agreed
@@Dan0TheMano 😂😂😂
I'm not American, I've known about this man for years but I never really checked his stuff out. I probably saw him talk the first time and I could tell immediately he is some fake ass CIA asset
Neil is a pompous know it all and doesn't leave room for debate
In Australia, well before this COVID issue, if you did not vaccinate your children you lost access to welfare and benefits for them. Still applies.
I'm surprised he isn't claiming he knows more than Robert Malone about it.
I’m not sure how me being forced to be a test subject and have some sort of chemical injected into my body is the same as a McDonald’s worker being legally forced to wash their hands before handling my food.
Loool
well that escalated quickly
Actually an apt analogy. If you don't follow the company's rules you get shit canned. Nothing new. The rules can be completely arbitrary. Nobody owes you a job. Most states are at-will employment so you can be shit canned at any time for any reason or for no reason at all. It's funny how a bunch of people are only now coming to discover this after workers' rights were systematically destroyed by corporate-funded politicians over the course of many decades
Because they are both measures of securing public health in terms of removing people from categories that make them much more likely to live less longer. This is why you shit in a toilet when you go out to eat and not on a table. It’s not safe for you or I to eat next to your shit that is resting on the table. That simple enough for you to understand?
It is the same thing. You do not have the right to infect others. Its that simple. You want to not vaccinate ? Sure but you are not working till things calm down.
Let me make a correction. Food service workers are legally required to wash their hands but no one is standing there watching them and forcing them to do it or provide proof. Businesses and the government were requiring proof. HUGE difference.
So he's saying he was looking at the fake data for cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.
Genius
This.
It's useless to cite statistics when they have been manipulated.
what fake data?
One of my employers made me take covid testing for literally every week for almost 2 years, I felt like all my friends and family had stopped taking or have been required to test 6-8 months earlier. I am more worried about the chemicals or long term effects of the chemicals for those nose swabs. I literally had 200 or more of those things up my nose as we were regularly required to test 2 even 3 times per week. It was either test or you couldn't work.
Thank God I didn't Fall for the toxic Clot Shot scam
I couldn’t help but notice Neil Degrasse when referring taking the jab, called it the virus multiple times.
Technically, a vaccine is merely a weakened version of the virus.
So he's not wrong.
He was so nervous and jacked up misrepresenting 'facts' and spreading his lefty propaganda that he was literally shaking sometimes. I heard him say virus instead a few times too. His need to back the lies and try and fool people literally got ahead of his brain. DISGRACE
Freudian slip
I know, creepy! It's because he's in on it. Why wouldn't the smartest scientists not be great public influencers? It's because he knows it's a (n AIDS) virus, and thats why people are dying.
Black people will not be boasting about Neil in the future.. he is thick as sht
You will never convince someone who is determined to believe a lie.
It crumbles their ego, what did you expect
Speaking of yourself I see. Let me guess the 2020 elections was rigged as well?
Based on so many comments on this video, I'm just going to assume you think that Neil is the one who believes a lie.
@@wastingmylifeaway4898aw, darn! Did you get the jab?
You'll never convince someone who's living depends on a lie.
Bet-David is the next Alex Jones
Thank you Patrick for asking the right questions and pushing back against censorship.
What censorship?
@@TekTonathan opposing views or discussions of the vaccine were censored heavily from 2020-2022
@JMT , you haven't heard it, you don't know about it, it was censored!
What rock have you been hiding under these last couple of years?
I can’t stand Neil. The logical gymnastics 🤸♀️ is so obvious.
yawn
How does the saying go, "it takes a lifetime to build a reputation and one moment to destroy it". Nice work Patrick.
Niels #1 refrain: "You dont have the right to infect others. Go live alone on a beach if you want to be unvaccinated". How about "you dont have the right to force others to be vaccinated or isolated. YOU go live alone on the beach if you dont want to be infected".
Why should Neils reputation be destroyed? Because he disagrees with you in ONE thing?
@@roketynoramallorca2882yeah his reputation as an astrophysicist is completely destroyed now that he has a different interpretation of the risk assessments in dealing with COVID
@@roketynoramallorca2882 how come black people dont thank whites for slavery? We forced them to become taller and stronger than whites by selective breeding and culling the weak. They are better than they were back in africa, thanks to us. Now they dominate Sportsball games because of it. They are beloved and celebrated as heroes through sportsball. They are wealthy and happy. And yet they still say we owe them something. We brought the strong Neo-African to life.
@@neglectfulsausage7689 What the heck are you talking about???? 🙂
What a stupid point! The NBA chose a facility that best suits a "bubble!"
Enforcement and coercion in Queensland, Australia. First no jab not job, I decided to give up job; then no jab no health service - I was diagnosed with cancer and desperately needed an operation - had to take the jab, In the triage room I was the only one vaccinated out of four/five patients; waking up in the ward my roommate told me she did not take the e vaccination - we had the same condition and had exact the same operation!!!!! I have been suffered from nerve pain and medicated since then. It is not fair.
I have rare congenital heart disease, I had Covid twice- I survived 2020 but it was a hard go, 2022 was like a flu. I read the Israeli studies and I was NOT getting vaccinated for the fear of having heart failure, especially since I already survived Covid and knew I would be fine. Thank God I never got vaccinated, I know so many healthy people who now have heart failure.
I knew people who died suspected after taking the vaccination ….real talk that why I wanna to see the true affect on people i time.
This is what's called an anecdote
This Patrick guy is dense as a brick.
I was forced to get three shots.
Way to have the stones to see your way through this! HOOYAH!
NDT, his ego, the way he constantly talks over people and his level of condescendence is hard to sit through. In this conversation though, he was dealing with an Alpha and Patrick handled him like a total G! I love the pushback and how he challenged Tyson. Well done sir, well done! One of the best in the business, appreciate you bro!
Exactly I could only listen a few minutes to his LIES! uh YES! THEY WERE TESTED!!! THERE WERE CLINICAL TRIALS! NO zTHERE WERENT Fkg LIAR!
Medications that could have been utilized off label to treat covid19 on an outpatient basis where prohibited from being discussed on public forums. If those medications where allowed to be utilized off label successfully as antivirals against covid19 then the covid19 vaccines would have not received the emergency use authorization. The emergency use authorization allowed pfizer and moderna to profit in the billions. The covid19 vaccines would have taken 5-10 years if it was not granted the emergency use authorization. This explains why supporters of !v3rm3ct!n and hydr0xy chloroquine and zinc were demonized by the mass media and doctors prohibited from prescribing these medications off label. These medications were successfully utilized by third world countries to treat covid19!
You don’t think that he is just somewhat socially awkward like a lot of gifted people?
Yes, You are absolutely right.
thank you, yes, Neil can't live if he doesn't get the last word, Imaging being he's wife. hahaha
Neil understands statistics but intentionally ignores that the athletes dying in the example they are discussing had a near zero chance of dying due to covid whether they had the shot or not. Neil also intentionally ignores the fact that the shot did not stop me from getting covid or from passing covid to others so there is no societal value to me getting the shot. He never expresses that individuals should have been allowed to make the decision without fear of losing their jobs.
neil is one of the most arrogant pundits i’ve ever seen. he harps on that point that “you’re not allowed to contaminate others” when there was NEVER any proof these shots affected transmission. at best, they reduced your own symtoms should you catch it (because these shots aren’t actually vaccines that conferred immunity). it’s so painful listening to neil’s cognitive biases.
You had the "freedom" to seek alternative employment. Your employer had the freedom to let you go. Awesome 👌
Hopefully, people wake up and understand the pros and cons of certain jobs.
I have family who got 5 total vaccines and still contracted the virus, for full disclosure they did not die or have vaccine complications
Athletes didn't die from the vaccine
Vaccines have stopped millions from dying
Plus, I haven’t signed any implicit contract.
there is a difference between social awareness and my freedom. my grandmother was in a dementia home for 5 years, I saw her a lot but never even if it was my acid reflux. because what if it's not?
if I an sick covid flu or what ever, the responsible thing is to limit my interaction with others. it isn't David or neal who is right, they both have great points
This is why debate is needed. really does expose those living in fantasy land.
Neil comes from monkeys, Patrick comes from Adam & Eve , that's why Patrick is much smarter & Neil is stupid
AMEN👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
YES
none of this debate is fantasy. just putting on the tables pros and cons of taking the vaccine over a whole population
This is a prime example of one individual with realism debate vs the other person with emotional debate
For real. Whenever he reacts emotionally it reminds me of when I did so as a child because I had no real argument just a feeling...
Patrick being emotional and the other with data and stats and risk vs reward
@@victorespino5650 oh Victor
If u ever say that better!
@@victorespino5650 yes so much emotion coming from PBD 😂
For someone who bills himself as a scientist, it is truly remarkable that Tyson takes the democratic position on every issue he discusses. I am not questioning his credentials or intelligence. Clearly he is educated and smart. I am questioning his values and ethics.
Here we see the danger of using the word "educated" to refer to any person with a college degree, especially a poli-sci or humanities degree.
I’m 10 minutes in and I hope to god PBD asks why the heck the pharmaceutical company’s put a clause in that they don’t have to release the vaccine trial info for 55 years
I like the parts since it was rushed they weren’t liable for any fucking damages
I admire your fortitude. I only made it 7 minutes before I couldn't stand to hear him say another word.
3 min in.
They will release the data in 75 years
lol because of money... now they have the recipt for the vaccine for 55 years and can make alot of money from it. Then after 55 years, other companies will be able to produce it. I believe it is pretty normal
@@Lord_Volkner sadly that happens everytime i listen to this shill.
He is above us, in his mind, and speaking down to us. "1984" is upon us!
And we thought, we learned from the past.
Don't worry, big brother will take such good care of you! 🤗
i've never had debt not taking that shot has put me in debt. However we're forgiving student loans
Dude is spitting out talking points of 2020
He can't back up anything he's saying. That's why he kept interrupting. Dudes a shill. He turned science into a joke.
Exactly! That sums up perfect what I was thinking.
I couldn't listen for more than 2 minutes
I’m done with this bozo
He knows nothing about mRNA.
Yes ! Keep doing Phase 3 Research of a vaccine without informed consent and no op out option!!🔥🔥 this guy is a tool
When an individual has forsaken their principles and ethics in pursuit of fame and notoriety, and attempts to dictate what should be said and which questions should be asked on your show, it's important to politely redirect the conversation or kindly ask that individual to leave.
It's important to ask scientists challenging questions because science is supposed to be repeatable and continuously tested
70% of all scientific studies cannot be repeated.
@@Shalantu69 that's why it's scientism...all a belief system.
But Neil is not scientist...
If you can't question it, it's not science. It is propaganda
I always say anything that is not repeatable is not science. The reason we have copyright laws and patents are for this specific purpose, cos those scientific (technological) products or methods are repeatable and thus must be protected. But there are certain things that don't need copyrights or patents, because they are not science but a belief system. They cannot be repeated and we must just accept them as is.
I honestly can't believe that he is as intelligent as he is and he still doesn't know when to fold and say I am wrong
There’s a difference between education and intelligence.
He is a classic narcissist.. he would rather kill himself than admit he was wrong.
@@unvaccinatedamerican9620 this fellow npc is correct.
often educated pple are blinded by their own arrogance bc they think a piece of paper that they graduate with allows them to be the authority of that field.
all their lives, they were in an education system of "appeal to authority" (to get an A you need to abide by whatever your teacher tells you) and often project what they have gone through to others, expecting others to blindly believe them.
It's like the parable of blind men and an elephant - they only see one thing, not the entire truth.
@NPC I definitely know that, but pre covid conversations I would have definitely said he was at the top of the food chain for intelligent thinking. Guess I was wrong
I believe the fact that most of the people dying of COVID are elderly and had multiple co-morbidities should've been brought up, for a period of time the average person dying of covid's age exceeded the average life expectancy. Me and my brother who are both teenagers got COVID more than once and it was about as severe as a mild cold, I'll take a mild cold over a very small chance of dying of sudden heart failure.
Probably not a great idea to send covid patents into retirement homes ..the only reason would be to cause deaths , stoke fear ..Cuomo should be in prison.
Statistically speaking of course!
It was virtually all old and or Fat. Now it’s athletes 🤫
Exactly so many people are having cardiac failures now and athletes
That’s true of literally every disease ever. It disproportionately affects older people. But the question is, why are their lives less valuable than yours ? Why should you have the right to go around spreading a highly contagious disease in the middle of a global pandemic to highly vulnerable people ?
MBAs being less likely to be vaccinated probably has something to do with the fact that many of them were probably able to either work from home, work remotely, or do not work in an environment with a high volume of individuals in close quarters.
By comparison, it would be interesting to look at degrees with a diametrically opposed workplace scenario. For example, medical doctors (MD) and registered nurses (RN), both fields which require constant contact with high volumes of individuals.
In PR, some Cv19 nurses were given a 500mg tablet of L-Lysine daily and not a single one got Covid.
Still waiting for the scientists to explain the dramatic peak in the population growth rate of the world that occurred in 1969.
His hysterical style and effort to speak down on folk is the big tell.
Go watch the episode of Carl Sagan's Cosmos where Sagan is teaching a class of school kids about the planets and moons in our solar system... then watch Neil do any interview with anyone xD
The difference is night and day.
Carl Sagan was the Rolls Royce of science communicators and he was a great humanist.
How this Neil guy was ever considered his protege, is an ongoing mystery to me lol
"You don't have the right to contaminate someone else."
"Says who?"
It's not his job to pamper someone giving answers like that. You think he's "hysterical," but were I in Mr. Tyson's shoes, I'd just start throwing hands on the endless horde of Autozone cashiers and Uber Eats drivers trying to lecture me on what an acceptable scientific process would be.
@@BigZach77 lol what does Tyson know about acceptable scientific process? He's a science communicator.. he's not doing hard science.
Point us to any peer reviewed scientific work that the guy has released.
Edit: One thing the AutoZone cashier or Uber driver would have going for them is, at least they'd have enough common sense not to pretend they're experts in topics related to biology / immunology / virology and the pharmaceutical industrial complex.
@@scroopynooperz9051 That's literally exactly what every boob on social media thinks and pretends to be, slick: experts on how to handle everything, especially a worldwide pandemic. That they know more about science than "scientists."
Case in point: "lol what does Tyson know about acceptable scientific process?". Even if you try to insult him with the "science communicator" title, still 100,000x more than you, myself, and the grand majority of people who like to dogpile on anyone who knows more than them. I don't pretend I'm an expert on subjects I'm not an expert on, let alone against someone that either is, or is a hell of a lot closer to one than I am.
@@BigZach77 lol lets not choke on that Tyson D TOO hard.. ya might get lockjaw there Tex.
And my field is computer science, while Tyson's is physics (or astrophysics). Naturally, my expertise and his diverges - that's how this works. I would know more than him given certain subjects, and he would know more on that which relates to classical theoretical and applied physics..
Neither of us is an expert biologist, virologist or immunologist. Thus given those topics, we should defer to those experts. To speak with confidence about biology, would be to commit intellectual dishonesty.
Also, the experts in those fields were still having a hearty debate on the efficacy of those experimental vaccines as opposed to say, letting natural immunity run its course.
The experts who were urging vaccine caution though... they were unceremoniously and suspiciously neutered on public platforms.
I'll let you in on a secret - no part of the scientific method revolves around "dont ask questions, just trust me bro".
When the "science" involves being cagey about sharing pertinent data, and censoring contrarian expert voices, you can be sure you're being sold a bag of d!cks masquerading as science.
"As long as you are informed, fully, about what the risks are." But Neil, didn't they try to put a 70-year pause on releasing the data?
yeah Neil isn't that informed. Should have a tough talk with those up there like Bret Weinstein, Chris Martenson, Campbell etc.... etc...
Yeah that’s what happened! 75 years!
You’re in a cult.
Isn't that why people got vaccinated though, in case other people didn't but they had to be around people either way. Wasn't that the point in the people who took the vaccine. I'm ashamed of Mr Tyson for this conversation.
@@IamBrixTM enlighten me
PDB teaches by example. Calm, cool and collect. Stay on task, stay focused and ask supporting questions. Thanks for another excellent show.
He makes a claim, which gets refuted, he offers no pushback, then asks an unrelated question like “well isn’t that what Americas all about? Freedom?” Then on the heel of that question restates the already refuted claim once again as if it wasn’t just refuted.
This isn’t how an intelligent person argues a point.
His point was that the vaccines weren’t tested enough to fully understand the side effects 3,5,10 years down the road. It’s a very valid point.
@@jasons.7134 Not a valid point because most side affects from vaccines are usually within a few months. That's why anyone that did have a negative reaction happened in a few days or even a week after getting the vaccine. People don't get vaccinated and then ten years later get some disease from it. That doesn't even make any sense.
@@jasons.7134sure and Neil just said that it’s a risk reward decision made with the best available data that you have at the time. Take it or don’t, but if you job says you have to take it for safety, well they have a right to implement that policy, just restaurants that wanted to see your vac card, it’s their private business, they are doing it. The government put out information and urged people to get vaccinated but they did force people into it, I would like to know if there were any lawsuits from people that got fired over it and how they were resolved.
Low mortality rate. Information which came in January of 2020 before all the panic surrounding that glorified cough came about
“Okay, you can put forth that idea.”
Except you couldn’t. If you put forth a different idea you were slapped with misinformation or disinformation labels, kicked off social media, you were discredited, just everything that could go wrong to your reputation would go wrong, because you put forth a different idea.
Someone in a high position of power once put forth the idea that since Covid is killed by disinfectant, injecting it into the body "should be looked into". If your idea is monumentally stupid, then it will be attacked as such.
Yeah, difference is making a video about an idea and posting hypothesis on Twitter doesn't equal a scientific study backed up by measurements and data. What really matters are numbers.
@@TheLordAncient yeah, because Dr. Robert Malone, holder of 8 patents on which the vax was designed totally falls into your fake drivel category 🙄🙄🙄🤦🏻♂️🤡🤡🤡
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Neil, The trials were BS, you should have done more research. Without any research, people could assume all sorts of ridiculous things about planets and the universe. I am sooooooo disappointed I. You. I thought you were a scientist.
Imagine living through the last three years and not being the slightest bit suspicious
EXACTLY. STUDY 30 40 50 YEARS BACK.
Of course, you realize that to accept any part of the truth forces one (a liberal) to then look at the whole picture, at which point their entire world-view would necessarily implode and they'd have to admit they were wrong, a thing most leftists are not willing to endure.
@@janicenagao7409 something most people fail to do 💯
😂 imagine thinking you know more then science
I know several.🙄
JUST NOW Catching this Show. May 2024. SO MUCH TRUTH is Revealed since this Show. THANKs PB-D 🙏🇺🇲