Hydration Pack vs. Hip Pack vs. Frame Strap
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2021
- No matter the ride, having your own riding essentials is, well, essential. Whether you use a hip pack, hydration pack, or frame strap, it’s a good idea to carry a few essential MTB accessories regardless of how long you are out on the trail. Here at WC, we do all kinds of riding from all-day XC epics to endless bike park laps, so we have accumulated a lot of experience on the topic of riding essentials between all of Zack’s flat tires and Jared’s broken chains. Some of the common items we like to carry on our mountain bikes include a water bottle, multitool with a chain breaker, tube, master link, tire plugs, frame pump/CO2, and some tire levers. These items are typically agreed upon among riders here at the shop as your most basic riding essentials to prevent getting stranded. The arguments usually start with the method someone decides to carry everything on their rides. The double-edged sword being there are many ways to carry the essentials these days. Our usual suspects are either a KETL bib with pockets to stash stuff in, a Backcountry Research WC frame strap, an EVOC hip pack, or a full-on Osprey hydration pack, depending on how long we plan on riding, where the ride is, and sometimes even the conditions. Crazy, I know. If you are interested in all of the sweet details and want to see exactly what we are carrying with us and how we carry it, check out the awesome article HERE. In this video, we break down the choices between whether you load everything in a MTB hydration pack, MTB hip pack, in your riding bib, or even on the bike itself. Check it out!
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Multitool sometimes and water.
"Ultralight" flat kit in a saddle bag. Purist bottle in carbon cage. That's about it for most rides. If it were an all day epic, I'd throw on my hiking bladder pack and put some Tailwind or Cytomax in it.
i love the concept of te hydration pack, but it does not work for me on long commutes on the road i cant use a hydration pack, when i do, the thing makes me sweat BULLETS non stop , as it rests on your back and there is no air flowing and its restricting my back skin from getting air, and no its not my shirt type, ive tried multiple shirt types, and when i DONT use the hydration pack my back or the rest of my body does not sweat non stop and make me even hotter, so, i stick to a water bottle.
I always ride with a backpack, but got a 1L hip back to try out. I think they look stupid, but damn it's good, I don't even know I'm wearing it after a minute.
BUT
I can't fit a couple of beers in it. Might get one of the 3L ones to try, pretty sure that'll fit a couple of cans.
Hashtag hydration is important
For short rides under 2 hours I only take a water bottle and hope, that nothing breaks for longer rides I always take a backpack
For long rides, I like to carry a single brussels sprout and a nice damp washcloth that I can wring the water out of for the perfect amount of hydration.
Don’t forget to leave the damp cloth in your shoes between rides to keep them from drying out.
@@trwilliams22 Now THAT is a pro tip.
I’ve been riding with a camelback hydration pack for years. I carry a tube, patches, 2 tool kits, a multi tool, a pump, a hand saw for cutting fallen trees, my phone, my car keys, and of course water. Never let’s me down!
Dam bro😂
Still rocking the Camel Pack. Kinda feel naked without it. The day I don't wear it will be the day I have a super crazy OTB and break my back... LOL!
Is your gf still rockin the Camel Toe?
My Camelbak has definitely saved my spine in a big crash!
@@paddor I've been riding with an Evoc Protector bag for the last 5 years. The protection might not be up to the spec of a dedicated back protector but it works well enough and I'm more likely to use it/be wearing it so that makes it more effective IMO 😉
To get the most life out of your pack, don’t forget to wash them frequently! Sweat is very salty…therefore corrosive to zippers. Found this out fairly quickly with my first Uswe pack. Replaced it and washed it after every ride if I get sweaty. Have had it now for 3 seasons
For long ride I use my Camelbak with multitools, spare inner tube tire, CO, cocho bar and bread.
For short ride I just bring water bottle 750ml, and multitools in wolftooth strap.
Super fun and informative video. Thanks boys!
I had a camelback backpack for years. I always hated going long miles (20+ miles) because my back would be sore after the ride. I got a hip water pack last year and my back hasn't been sore yet. It's the best thing I could have bought for my rides. It does bounce around from time to time, but I will take that small inconvenience for no sore back pain. Plus my back doesn't sweat as bad anymore. It's great. 😀
I take the USWE Airborne 9 on almost every ride, best pack I have ever used. I can fit a tube, pump, CO2 tire levers, multi-tool and snacks in it. For those "raw dog" rides I have a frame strap with a tube, CO2 and tire levers. Also throw a multi-tool in pocket.
Backpack since like 2002… feel a bit naked without it.
Definitely loving the osprey snycros with that airspace on the back.
On the bike carry for me. Running a hardtail with bottle cages, a frame bag and top tube bags. Carries everything I need.
Started with a hydration pack, now do a OneUp EDC in the 70cc pump mounted to my bottle cage mount. One bottle on the bike, the other bottle + tube + phone + snacks in my Bonty hip pack.
Undersaddle bag for tools, spare tire, master link, pump at frame, 2 bottles at cages and everything else (mostly food) in my jersey pockets. I´m fine with that even for 7hours ride.
Tubolito strapped under the sadel between the rails.
Thanks! for the reminders
How a guy like Zack blends in there 🤣
Solid spoke wipe-down, Liam! 😆
Hydration pack on long rides. Water bottle and very slim saddle bag that holds two things: key fob to Jeep and multitool.
Love your channel & vids, reviews
Yay! Thank you!
I'd completely forgotten about Snacks toddler, thank you
I ride with a Deuter back pack. It has a mountain bike pack that makes it sit more on your hips like a hiking back pack. Great product. Feels great. I have used Camelbak for about 12 years.
I drink like 1 liter per hour and my avg rides are 2.5 ~ 3 hours so I take dat pack w/ me. Osprey w/ the air channel is the best, I've tried like a dozen packs
Wow that's a lot! You sweat tonnes or ride uber hot weather? Make sure to pre-hydrate
@@James-il3tq most of the year im riding at ~90F (32C) so yeah its just hot out here :( and I dont wake up early enough to stay cool the whole time
@@MarioXcore1 Nuff said brotha! Stay cool!
Instead of a frame strap, I've been using a tool capsule storage pack that fits in the water bottle cage. Really only good if your frame can hold 2 cages (I run this on my Epic EVO on longer local rides), but I'm able to securely hold my tire plugs, master links, mult-tool, bandages, zip ties, micro pocket knife, CO2, tire levers, and house keys in there and it keeps everything clean & dry. I went through a few cages until I found one that held my tool capsule (made of a carbon/leather material) securely so it's nearly impossible for it to pop out while driving, and it's already a PITA to take out too.
I love my saddle bag and bottle for an XC/commute ride.
For a proper MTB ride it has to be a hydration backpack!
I got 2 of the Osyprey syncros, a 5 for normal riding and 12 for biking commuting for work with change of clothes or use it for long rides. Love them. I only have the pack for my phone and keys, my pump, multi-tool, tube, tire levers go in my pork chop frame bag. Already broke a key fob by having it in my pocket. No fun to find out when you get back to the car and expensive to replace.
On shorter ride I have my bottle in my bottle cage. On longer ride I put another bottle in my backpack because cleaning a hydration pack is a hassle.
Just started using the WC frame strap to hold my tube/tire lever/co2 canister/multi tool and will never go back. I’ll keep an Osprey 6L pack for the really long days and am researching hip packs for the shorter 2hr or less rides.
As a kid I used to have a backpack with crap bouncing around. My back and shoulders felt that and sweat bad. Now that I’m getting older (37 holy crap where did the time go) I have a nice fox waist bag with hydration. Couple small tools: crank brothers m20 multi, small lezyne ratchet tool that has enough bits that fit my bike bolts , small air pump, plastic tire levers that barley add weight and some tube patches that I pray stick. Also today at REI I grabbed a free trail map that pretty much has all the trails in detail of southern Ca where I ride. May come in handy if theres no cell service and need to see where to go. Also some bandaids in diff sizes since no one is immune to crashing and getting cut up.
I have to take a backpack to carry more water for my spaniel and a collapsible plastic bowl for her. Since I’ve got the pack I might as well fill it with essentials. Looking into a new backpack though, like the look of the POC ones with built in back protectors. Great vid again guys.
IDK about y'all, but I hate warm water. When riding in Texas even a freezing cold water bottle turns piss warm in 10 minutes. Hydration pack all day. Ice cold water that I don't have to stop to take a sip, all my trail tools, and snacks. Call me a backpack nerd, but don't ask for shit when you free ballers break down/ don't have something.
" even a freezing cold water bottle turns piss warm in 10 minutes"
You need larger and better insulated water bottles, or freeze them overnight.
Even my long rides in the canyons of Death Valley i still have ice cold water. And no matter where you're riding in texas, it aint hotter than Death Valley, CA.
Ran a small hydro pack with all the essentials (tube, co2, multi tool, cliff bar, master link/chain tool) for a long time, but once I bought my Stumpjumper with the S.W.A.T. system I just jump on and right. All that stuff is stashed in the downtube and the multi tool goes on the bottle cage. Its amazing not to have to worry about that stuff anymore
Hip pack. Love the crazy edit clips tossed in randomly
SWAT bibs are my favorite because they so comfortable packed that I can forget I’m carrying stuff in them unlike hip & hydro packs . But long rides with weather change possibilities, I go hydro pack. Just more comfortable to me than hip packs.
I also use EDC pump with tools inside.
Have my first frame strap coming so I can carry a tube on mid length rides. Haven’t spent $ on the super light weight tube like in the video yet.
The ending of the video was so funny 😂
Water in my bottle cage and just like Jeff..... Raw Dawg baby.
Awesome video mates, that was funny and informative not the 2 words which go together but on WWC anything can happen😎😎🤘🤘🤣🤣
Nice video fellows! Lol, I just bought a squat pad for my workouts that came with thin straps that I didn’t need but they’ll work perfectly like those straps to carry tubes etc. thanks!
Fixit sticks are my EDC tool. Buy one tool and then buy a bunch of extra bottle cage tool mounts for all your other bikes. 👨🎓
I take a multi tool with chain tool attachment, shock pump, spare tubes, tire levers and snacks in my camelback, and I have a pro tip for camelback users: fill the bladder with cubed ice and then fill with water; the ice will keep the water cold and fresh while also making the space that the bladder is stored in nice and cool like a lil mini fridge, and you just tuck your snacks in there with the bladder and it keeps everything from getting melty while also cooling your back. and finally I carry a mini tire pump on the bike where the bottle cage would go. and this is with any ride I do btw ;)
I live in Arizona. I always have camelpack which has storage for multi tool, extra tube, snacks, phone
Multi tool, quick link, tube, levers, CO2, and $ live in a small frame bag, water bottle in cage, phone in shirt back pocket - big rides 2+ hrs add pack - more water and food.
I have been using the same Camelback Blowfish for 25 yrs and just recently bought an Osprey Savu 2 for rides less than 2 hrs.
I used to have a seat pouch on my hard tail. When I got my first FS I ditched the bag due to rub and just run with a water bottle and frame pump. I want to get the EDC frame pump and multi tool this spring.
SNACKS! I love snacks! speaking of snacks, Jeffrey you are sure looking like one.
😁😏😏
Is no one gonna touch the raw dog comment
@@fulldonkeymode8837 I will. Jeff is the raw doggin' daddy...hehehehe
Taylor R. Is for Taylor "Jeff" Rawdogged
@@fulldonkeymode8837 Lucky woman...lol 😜
For water, I have my 2 water bottles and a water filter. It’s so obvious but I don’t see as many people with them but most mountain bike trails (at least in the woods) are right near bodies of water. Also cheap fanny packs from thrift stores work great!
I run it all. I have hip pack, camel back and an Ergon 17L pack for days like Big Enchilada. Each is used for it’s designated purpose. When i race enduro i strap a banana to the top tube with gorilla tape and then smash it all to hell on the first climb so it is ready for me on stage 4.
Hip pack for gear and snacks, bottle on the bike for water. All day rides I use a full pack with hydration bladder.
In steerer: 1up edc lite
In dakine hot laps gripper: tire plug with 10 bacon Strips, 3 clif bars duo, crabkbrothers f-15, and a couple band aids
In other small frame bag: tube, toilet paper WHICH IS A NESCESSITY, zip ties
Fidlock water bottle
Fox hip pack (not slim version):
Stuff that never comes out: master link, park tool aws-10, tire levers, 10$,
When I ride: 2 16 oz water bottles, clif shot energy gel, sometimes a sandwich, sometimes a bathing suit, my phone, my wallet, and GoPro with handle
This is for my two hour rides, and the beauty is I can go for 10 with this gear, any less than 100 min, I ditch the pack and put my phone in my pocket
The protection of the regular hydration back pack is kinda important. I totally get the EDC and strap on frame but you will probably have a to put your phone and keys in your pockets but if you have a few rigs your getting a lot of EDC’s and straps. A Fanny pack or Hip pack carry’s more stuff but you’re not protecting your back and have about the same weight.
So funny. Cheers guys
Them hips don't lie! But honestly, it's a bib with stuff on the bike, or it's a full backpack for the backcountry.
Holy shit, you guys have your WHY on the wall. Yes!
I use a one up edc tool in a 100cc pump (holds a CO2 cannister and quicklink too). I have a Dakine Hotlaps frame bag for a spare tube, a 2nd CO2, tyre plugs, my preferred Lezyne CO2 valve, wire to aid in chain repairs and some trusty zip ties.
For water, i use a 3 bottle system (marathon xc race set up), 1 on the frame and 2x in my Osprey Savu 5 hip pack. Prefer the hip pack to a backpack to keep me much cooler on those hot rides.
I have Topeak Ninja Master T20 multitool on bottle cage plus mini pump attached to the cage, Granite stash tire plug in handlebars, tire lever and spare tube strapped to the frame with Granite strap and spare chain links taped with electrical tape to the brake hoses. Also, I have electrical tape on mini pump, several layers, just in case. All that is always on my bike. On under 50 kilometers rides, I put snacks and phone in jersey pocket or in jacket pockets, depending on weather and season, or regular fanny pack, because I can't find proper hip pack near me. I'll also put some zip ties there too. Longer than 50km I'll go with backpack, with extra food, zip ties and some first aid essentials. I usually go for solo rides, so I'd rather have everything I might need just in case. Just need to find proper derailleur hanger, to be on the safe side on long rides...
Hike with my bike is my motto
THANK YOU!
I do all my under 2 hour rides with nothing but a couple essentials if I'm caught out overnight. If my bike breaks down...fuck it...im now on a hike.
I do hikes. I do hikes on purpose all the time. I trail run. I camp. And sometimes....when i get a flat or something goes wrong, i hike with my bike....Like....Once a year. Its fine to just walk back to the van. May take an hour. Its fine!!!!!!
Yay for not carrying anything but the outdoor essentials!
Lighter for fire and rescue.
Knife to cut wood and defend yourself.
Emergency blanket to keep warm at night.
1 liter water to remain hydrated (and or tiny water straw filter).
Bit of high fat food if caught overnight. (almond butter is ideal)
Water, money, tube, snacks, tool kit, power link, needdle and dental floss to fix side cut, spare brake pads, derailleur hanger, tire plugs, levers, zip ties, small piece of chain and dry tube patch. I throw most of the in the saddle bag and forget that I have until I need.
I just switched from a big ol pack to only a water bottle, cell phone and keys. I miss getting a drink whenever I want. Now I have to stop to get a drink or crash while trying to put the bottle back in the cage.
Stopped wearing fanny packs in the nineties. Hydration packs were a godsend at the time to replace the bouncy, gut squeezing fanny pack.
I will be switching to a Hydration Pack in Hip Back > Water Bottle must go, absolutely hate the fact that you can get it splattered with dog poop... urh! (Yes I speak from previous experience - not pleasent)
I use a frame bag below the top tube, but that might be hardtail only. Haha the interviews are a laugh haha.
How has no one brought up saddle bags! They're not popular anymore and definitely not sexy with my or anyone's dropper, but still flippin practical! For a ride under 2 hours I'll have the saddlebag with a tire lever, derailleur hanger, zip ties, Band-Aids, some dried fruit, tire sidewall patch, and a multi-tool! Then in the handlebars I've got some tire plugs and the tool, rounding it off with a tube on a strap and a mini pump attached to the bottle cage bolts. You can still be really prepared without a hip pack or Camelback!
For the LONGER rides I do use The dakine 5l hip pack. You just need that extra room for water and food; a little extra first aid always helps.
I have 2 camelbaks, 1 karrimor and 1 cheap b-twin pack and none of them stop your back getting sweaty and they all have some sort of airflow channel. The karrimor however has the best back support and protection.
I use a Dakine velcro strap that contains a pouch and attaches to the underside of my frame. The problem is that it gets dirty after rides and I'm thinking I should replace it with a strap or something else.
Old school is new again. Svelt saddle bag and strap the pump+CO2, maybe tube, to frame.
Topek Ninja 16 multi tool
Quick link
Tire lever
Stan's Dart
Patch kit: patches, alchohol swabs, sandpaper
Band aids
Antibiotic ointment packets
Sunblock packets
Bug repellant packets
Tylenol and Advil
Presta valve core
CO2 valve
Zip ties
$20 bill
All that fits in a Lezyne Road Caddy saddle bag.
Strapped to frame with one strap:
Blackburn Airstik SL
20gr CO2
Everything together, including bag, weighs in at 480gr.
No, no contact between rear tire and saddle bag even at full compression. No interference with dropper post either. There really is a lot of space under the saddle.
Now, on my Specialized, all that plus a foil blanket packet and a SH*T KIT in the SWAT box. Weight a little less since no saddle bag. Done.
I put the tools inside the frame on my bike, but I still like my Osprey water backpack. I don't like messing with water bottles or stopping to fill even on a local trail.
Seriously Know-ones packing zipties? Bit jealous you’ll get away without bear spray. Big fan of EDC tool in the one up 100cc pump, great as you don’t have to tap the steer tube and you can get a few mounts to move between bikes. Wolf tooth RAD bags, One small for snack & tubeilito, on small rides, one big one filled with all kinds of ridiculousness for one of a kind mechanical deep in the mountains.
I just do hydration pack for everything. I got a kulkea and love it. I put my phone, wallet, and keys in there, it always has the tool tool in there so I just grab it and fill it with water and go don’t have to think about it.
I’ll carry Jeff in my pocket
I second this!
I am the same. I run tubeless and I like to take chances. Just water and small tiny pump. Co2 drys out the sealant.
SWAT! Thank you Specialized
Coolest mike ever!
2 fidlock waterbottle on frame, Hippack with energybar, multi-tool (with chain breaker integrated), CO2 and plug, tire lever, masterlink, cell phone, and car keys….
Next time you do these shop interviews, have Jared interview himself! Lol
Looks like a good place to work.
Not a complete germophobe, but I think a frame mounted bottle is a bit risky, getting covered in dog-/sheep-/sheepdog-product. A bottle with tools etc inside and a hydration pack gives me peace of mind. And least but not last: you guys have all sorts of funny AND factual bones.
Thanks !
The crap that accumulates on frame mounted bottles helps strengthen my immune system,
(Diehard fidlock fan btw)
They make covers for them. If I am putting a bottle under the down tube, it's definitely getting a cover. I'd get mud on the bottle somehow, even if I was on a paved trail.
@@NoBrakes23 yep totally get the cover for the one on the down tube, but inside the triangle it’s not nescessary
That’s why you being the magic eraser on the trails
I’d like to try a hip pak, but hate running belt buckles in the middle where they dig into stomach ….Any side mount buckles out there?
The Dakine hip pack is the sheeeet.
Every Ride, always on the bike:
Water bottle on frame.
OneUp EDC Lite in head tube.
Dynaplugs in bar end plugs
Zip ties in crank spindle.
SILCA MATTONE Seat Bag with:
oneup CO2 inflator
25gm+20gm Co2 with some gorilla tape around each.
Tubolito S-tubo
clever flatout lever with quick links and a hole for:
oneup chain breaker V2
Park tire boot
$20, gloves, compressed towel
CR2032 battery for AXS
For hydration pack == longer/group rides
OneUp pump
Small first aid kit
Isreali Dressing
Space blanket
Leatherman Squirt
Stans sealant shot
shift cable
Mech Hanger
RockShox Emergency Seatpost Collar (works with most).
AXS Battery
Energy "food". Usually gummies or bars of some sort.
Pickle Power shot.
Sandwiches and bananas if going long.
For a sub-2 hour ride, I will gladly hike out rather than do trail repairs, (but that goes to a long history of doing trail repairs that just extended the time I spend dealing with a broken bike.) In my experience, nothing fixes a flat, not even spending an hour in the sun cleaning the tire and installing a tube and armor for the tube. Literally every trailside tire repair I have been involved in, (Since the 80s) has still left me walking, (Road, mtb, or BMX.) Easier just to say fuck it and bail out. I am fat and out of shape, but I can still knock out a sub-10 mile hike, (even tired, demoralized, and dragging a broken bike.) For longer rides, I will bring tools, spare parts, spare food, and medical, (IFAK and ouch pouch.) I might still walk out over doing trail repairs, though.
For short rides or bikefishing I will go raw, use a bottle, or wear the Camelbak Ultra100, (The trekking pole loops are nice for carrying a telescopic rod.) For longer rides or long ride training, I use a Camebak Mule.
Short hour ish rides I take nothing, no water no tools, just a small dog 😂. Longer rides I use a hydration backpack, and a multi tool. I run Vittoria air liners, ordered from WWC of course, can run flat on those to make it to the car so I don’t bother with flat repair stuff.
Real question…where do you carry the beer?
Giving me propilot flashbacks from leg day yesterday.
If it’s under 2 hours I take a few of those old school wax bottle candies with the juice in them!
my bike has no space for a bottle so I take a hipbag with a bottle and pump on every ride and in the hipbag is also a sleeve with:
Tube
tirelevers
Plugs
sealant
cablebinders
tools
chainlinks
valvecore
valvecoretool
brakepad
derailerhanger
Not using any of this but my friends often use my tool or pump and there is a rule that if you have it you won't need it.
It would be cool to also hear from everyone how often they've used all this stuff they carry with them.
Never! If you bring the tools etc, you never need them. When you forget your tools etc., you need them … but because you dont have them, you cant use them. 😀
What do i ride with? What a no brainer question! Of course i ride with that bottle (makers mark) behind you
I love how Jared is so awkward with people. He is like that in real life when I went to worldwide there to get tires.
Is it weird riding with a trail running hydration pack or are they pretty much the same thing as a mtb hydration pack?
I just put it all in the car and walk back to the car if anything breaks 😂
I take my backpack.Some rolling tabaco and papers with filters.Flask of whiskey then some food and watter.
I take care of my bike and im 100% shure that nothing brakes so just take multi tool and thats it
When riding in hot weather over 2-3 hours, there is no way to ride without a larger pack to have enough water and that is the biggest factor for me. Because eveyrthing else I can fit in my pockets/on the bike.
Do frame straps scratch the frame after a while?
I wish I was a clown working at this circus! lol Up to 15 miles, just a water bottle in a cage and multitool in ma pocket. 15mi+ I wear a hydro pack with the tools and schnacks, maybe a rain jacket if needed.
I used a Camel backpack for several years. Tried using straps, but lost several co2 pumps and tubes that wiggled loose. I have been using a Dakine Fanny pack with bladder for the last 3 years. Works well for me keeping the additional weight low and space to carry the essentials I need.
Should have asked people in the PA and NV shops. Probably get a different answer from outside sunny SoCal.
Come on guys , you forget the JBL sound in a water cage!
I love my wolf tooth encase tools just stick them in whatever bike im riding
Hydration pack. I can put all my tools and snacks in it and carry on my back.