Dune - The Imperium of Man Explained | Dune Lore

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  • Опубліковано 9 жов 2023
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    Learn about the political factions that vie for power in Frank Herbert's Dune Universe. This is the third episode in a series discussing the lore of the Dune novels.
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  • @joek81981
    @joek81981 2 місяці тому +88

    Benny Jezerette sounds like a drummer from the 1960s. "...it was Miles Davis, Hoot Watkins, and Benny Jezzerette. What a show!"

    • @danielclark-hughes692
      @danielclark-hughes692 2 місяці тому +8

      He does get nervous before going on stage but he has a mantra: I must not fear, fear is the rhythm killer.

    • @happytrailsgaming
      @happytrailsgaming Місяць тому +1

      It’s Bene Gesserit just fyi 😂

    • @mantistobogganm.d.6895
      @mantistobogganm.d.6895 Місяць тому +6

      They changed the spelling when his grandpa came over on the boat at Ellis Island

    • @Michael-ri9ve
      @Michael-ri9ve Місяць тому +6

      This band named gom jabbar?

    • @joek81981
      @joek81981 Місяць тому +2

      @@Michael-ri9ve FANTASTIC band name, sir!

  • @dylanmah7791
    @dylanmah7791 2 місяці тому +47

    While I know it was cribbed straight from Dune (along with 80% of the setting), as a 40k fan its kinda sureal hearing "Imperium of Man" used in reference to a completely different setting.

    • @KonradvonHotzendorf
      @KonradvonHotzendorf Місяць тому +13

      40k stole a lot from Dune😅
      Fighting an AI that went rogue
      Butlerian Jihad. The Mechanicus is crealy built on Dune lore

    • @dylanmah7791
      @dylanmah7791 Місяць тому +5

      @@KonradvonHotzendorf Which is precisely what I said in the comment?

    • @ajax54
      @ajax54 Місяць тому +13

      ​@@dylanmah7791 he was just adding to your comment. Not everything has to be an argument brother

    • @dylanmah7791
      @dylanmah7791 Місяць тому +3

      @@ajax54 I'm not looking for an argument, and yeah, reading it again, it doesn't seem like an "um acstually", my mistake.

    • @The-egg-cult.
      @The-egg-cult. 21 день тому

      Mate also being a 40k fan I'm not surpised you thought that was an em actually moment seeing as that's the bases of our fandom 😂

  • @mikevanroy9356
    @mikevanroy9356 15 днів тому +4

    The Imperium of Man combined with the Bene Geserit and Spacing Guild was actually quite efficient as a ruling body. Muad'Dib, the Fremen Jihad, the God Emperor, etc. may have changed who was in charge of this structure but they didn’t dare try to change the structure itself. In fact a better systen wasn't even discussed.

  • @Sometuy11A
    @Sometuy11A 2 місяці тому +30

    I never realized Dune was this interesting. Thank you.

    • @Oakenbull
      @Oakenbull Місяць тому +4

      You bet your buns it is

    • @drspoc5409
      @drspoc5409 15 днів тому +2

      It’s the original

    • @iciajay6891
      @iciajay6891 5 днів тому

      Most modern post 60's sifi is built on Dune. Most notable is Star Wars.

  • @michaelodonnell824
    @michaelodonnell824 2 місяці тому +30

    Two curious omissions from the video.
    No mention that the current Emperor has only daughters and there has never been a Ruling Empress, so House Corrino's long rule is jeopardized before the advent of Paul Atreides.
    And no mention of the Bene Gesserit....

    • @patrickjeffers7864
      @patrickjeffers7864 Місяць тому +2

      No nephews? Distant male cousins?

    • @AnvilAirsoftTV
      @AnvilAirsoftTV Місяць тому +4

      @@patrickjeffers7864duke Leto.

    • @patrickjeffers7864
      @patrickjeffers7864 Місяць тому

      @@AnvilAirsoftTV i thought Leto was an atreides..I'm saying for 1,000 yrs, this family produced no brothers, cousins, nephews??

    • @rogerchavez2531
      @rogerchavez2531 Місяць тому +1

      It think it was a great general overview because once you get into stuff like what you mentioned you can go down the rabbit hole real quick.

    • @michaelodonnell824
      @michaelodonnell824 Місяць тому

      @@rogerchavez2531 Personally, I believe that the heirlessness of House Corrino is a key driver of the action in the Dune universe.
      Consider, this is a ruling family that has lasted 10,000 years. For the first time, in Human Galactic Imperial history, it is going to be replaced.
      Why does Duke Leto not marry Jessica? - because he hopes to marry an Imperial daughter.
      Why is Baron Harkonnen unmarried? Because he has similar hopes. Moreover, the unattached state of Feyd Rautha is probably rooted in the same scenario.
      And why has this scenario come about? Because the Bene Gesserit want it. They instructed the Imperial Consort(s) to only bear daughters.
      So doing a background to the Dune universe and not mentioning the fragile state of Imperial succession or the Bene Gesserit, is seriously problematic....

  • @snoo333
    @snoo333 Місяць тому +1

    nicely done. thank you.

  • @myrddinbuyens5532
    @myrddinbuyens5532 Місяць тому

    Yow, where's the Dune music on the background?

  • @troydavis1
    @troydavis1 18 днів тому +2

    8:11 not all technology ! Only machines in the shape of a human mind !!

    • @DrFrankNStein-sf2ww
      @DrFrankNStein-sf2ww 17 днів тому +1

      Yes, but this even goes for something as simple as a pocket calculator. It's actually very hard to draw a line here.

  • @timothyunderwood7880
    @timothyunderwood7880 6 місяців тому +7

    I am trying to remember the motive for the second jihad that Paul desperately sought to avoid. The first was anti-computer technology, was the second jihad just warring Fremen establishing Paul's dominance?

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  6 місяців тому +9

      It was a religious Jihad started in Paul's name. As the Fremen messiah, they worked to eradicate other religions and establish the atreides dominance

    • @JohnDoe-ds8um
      @JohnDoe-ds8um 2 місяці тому +3

      @@TheLorebrarians Send them to Paradise

    • @Meteyard97
      @Meteyard97 Місяць тому +6

      The 2nd jihad was the first step on the “golden path” a vision of the future where humanity would prosper and survive but only through turmoil and sacrifice, Paul shied away from the golden path but his son Leto knew it was the only way

    • @ajewishchristianmuslim
      @ajewishchristianmuslim Місяць тому

      they are an oppressed people - its resistance.

  • @onetruekeeper
    @onetruekeeper 11 днів тому

    The Imperium occupies only a small section of the Milky Way galaxy which is 100000 light years in diameter. Humanoids dominate this area but that might not be the case in other areas of our galaxy. The emperor of the known universe used to address the emperor is a term beyond arrogance.

  • @MrZakuRetro
    @MrZakuRetro 7 місяців тому +4

    i say it many times before you are really good, are you mirror in your content on rumble? it might wort the shoot many creators are doing.

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  7 місяців тому +3

      Thank you, so glad you enjoy the content. I've not heard of rumble, but I might look into it!

    • @MrZakuRetro
      @MrZakuRetro 7 місяців тому

      @@TheLorebrarians you can upload old videos and mirror new ones, give it a chance the more people that see you great videos the better.

  • @mastersilent5446
    @mastersilent5446 7 місяців тому +3

    You put a picture of the Bene Gesserit at the end of your video but you dont talk about them in this video?
    I find it weird when the backbone of this political system is the sisterhood of the Bene Gesserit. I also remind that most noble lines are part of the genetical program of the BG and so, are bred by them.

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  7 місяців тому +5

      I have a separate video in the works detailing the Bene Gesserit Order completely. Since they are pervasive and subtle, I only discuss the most conspicuous factions here for simplicity. But stay tuned for the Sisterhood!

    • @mastersilent5446
      @mastersilent5446 7 місяців тому +2

      @@TheLorebrarians Ah ok, thanks for the answer;) May Shai Hulud be with you!

  • @judgedreddthelaw3418
    @judgedreddthelaw3418 12 днів тому

    IN THE NAME OF THE IMPERIUM AND THE EMPEROR, SLAY THE......oh.....wrong Imperium. Right...put the chainswords away...put em away! Now!

  • @Kharyza
    @Kharyza 16 днів тому

    wow never heard of it, is this tv show? or movie? or game?

    • @drspoc5409
      @drspoc5409 15 днів тому

      60’s book series and a couple different movies over the years.

    • @iciajay6891
      @iciajay6891 5 днів тому

      It's a book series from the ealrt 1960s. And most modern sci-fi in all forms is built on it. Notable Is Star Wars.

  • @Pantheistdood
    @Pantheistdood 7 місяців тому +6

    I need to re-read the first book. I thought CHOAM was part of the balance of power? Wouldnt it be a square? Im confused.

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  7 місяців тому +8

      Since CHOAM directorship and membership is controlled by the Emperor, Landsraad, Bene Gesserit and Spacing Guild I wouldn't consider it an entity in its own right. Much like wealth, it represents power but doesn't inherently have it. Hope that helps!

    • @timothyunderwood7880
      @timothyunderwood7880 6 місяців тому +3

      Choam is Wall Street writ large.

  • @melovechinalongtime7398
    @melovechinalongtime7398 2 місяці тому +3

    I think Google's way of pronouncing things has ruined my head cannon.

  • @connorgibson5224
    @connorgibson5224 7 місяців тому +6

    Dune lore??? Say no more homie❤

    • @TheLorebrarians
      @TheLorebrarians  7 місяців тому +1

      Hope you enjoyed! More to come in the next weeks

  • @genmaicha.lapsang
    @genmaicha.lapsang 28 днів тому +5

    MAY THE GOD EMPEROR'S GREAT SACRIFICE BE REMEMBERED FOREVER!

  • @adenosine2electricboogaloo647
    @adenosine2electricboogaloo647 14 днів тому

    1:25
    could this imperium be the work of the illuminati?!

  • @charlessomerset9754
    @charlessomerset9754 2 місяці тому +4

    I can see all this working on a galactic scale, but not universal. You are talking about billions of years in light distance. So even though Giuld navigators can fold space, they cant escape the vast oceans of time one would have to hurdle to travel to other galaxies. It doesnt make sense on a relativist scale. But then again, Herbert was basically an ecologist, and Dune is a thought experiment on terraforming a desert planet. Im not sure he really thought about relativity that hard, but Im not sure.

    • @jaythekid4728
      @jaythekid4728 2 місяці тому +7

      It’s the imperium of the known universe. At most however it’s just our Milkeway Way Galaxy. The space folding technology is done through the fictional holtzman* effect which is the same effect that shields, anti gravity suspension and faster than light speed satellite communications use. Since they’re moving massively faster than light (the books describe it as instantaneous) things such as time and distance become a non factor. Also the feudal system is perfect for such interstellar societies since a centralized government can’t be everywhere at once with such distances of resources

    • @donpostram7395
      @donpostram7395 Місяць тому +4

      Distance is irrelevant when your brand of transportation is instant…

    • @NeovanGoth
      @NeovanGoth Місяць тому +1

      I like the term that is used in the 1984 movie: "Traveling without moving".
      Relativity does not allow to move through space faster than light, but it does not prohibit shorter paths, for example by compressing space using a warp drive, or folding it to create a wormhole.

    • @Busabuck100
      @Busabuck100 27 днів тому

      Maybe quantum entanglement was involved .

  • @KonradvonHotzendorf
    @KonradvonHotzendorf Місяць тому +2

    1:24 no🔺️ it isn't
    🔴is

  • @orionstark
    @orionstark Місяць тому +2

    This is not accurate to The Dune Encyclopedia.