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  • @acleray
    @acleray 3 роки тому +184

    For the true effect, you need to be working on the steam heat boiler, between the engines, when they open up to full power. You actually feel your internal organs try to find a safe place to hide.. I will never forget it.

    • @xandercraw
      @xandercraw 2 роки тому +14

      And now I want to experience that 🥺

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому +5

      @@xandercraw you would soon dislike it.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому +3

      Ray Griffiths. Always made me laugh, maintenance staff had proper ear defenders we had rolled up cotton wool

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      They were a beast !

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      Ray Griffiths. I was oh so glad when they fitted ETH. My mate said when coming into KX. Time to turn the Telly off for some reason

  • @jackthompson1382
    @jackthompson1382 6 років тому +51

    These engines truly are engineering marvels.

  • @wn8687
    @wn8687 5 років тому +28

    I remember the Deltics in Edinburgh in the 1970s......they would regularly run light engine through Haymarket station to and from the depot and Waverley station. Makes me feel really old!

  • @williamgreen1432
    @williamgreen1432 9 років тому +71

    Wow. Sounded like a bucket of marbles in a paint shaker at first, but really it sounded very smooth and powerful soon after. It fired instantly, and the little blip of the throttle said a lot. Very cool.

    • @johnbishop5316
      @johnbishop5316 6 років тому +18

      I think the expression you sought was a skeleton wan king off in an oil drum

    • @rogertycholiz2218
      @rogertycholiz2218 5 років тому +3

      I think your description of that sound was right on! Napier Deltic was really smooth when hot and throttled up.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому +2

      @@johnbishop5316 dem bones dem bones

    • @skylined5534
      @skylined5534 2 роки тому +1

      @John Bishop
      That there skellington's got some rapid wrist action.

    • @threadtapwhisperer5136
      @threadtapwhisperer5136 10 місяців тому

      Sure did.
      What kind of start process is:
      1: marbles and spare nuts into the intake
      2:send that ish hard
      3: purr like a kitten
      The sound of reliability. Heavy is good, is reliable, if it does not work, you can hit them with it..
      Hahah

  • @scopex2749
    @scopex2749 4 роки тому +18

    WHAT AN AWESOME SOUND Those Napiers are!

  • @sde426
    @sde426 11 років тому +6

    The exhaust piston leads the inlet piston by 20 degrees, and the only way to get it all to work is by the bottom crankshaft rotating in the opposite direction to the two top crankshafts. A work of geometric genius.

  • @faraway2686
    @faraway2686 5 років тому +20

    I used to be a signalling instructor at Doncaster railway school which was just over the wall on platform 1. My overhead projector would vibrate when a Deltic had pulled up just opposite us and all my students would go to the window and look out in awe at these magnificent engines.. halcyon days 👏👏👏👏👍

    • @DJ_CROFTY
      @DJ_CROFTY 2 роки тому +2

      I live in Doncaster I remember seeing a deltic pull into Donny station felt it in my chest magnificent feat of British engineering

  • @josephinebennington7247
    @josephinebennington7247 6 років тому +6

    Nice mug of Builders always at hand. I love traditions.

  • @BritishRailwaysEmily
    @BritishRailwaysEmily 11 років тому +7

    Beautiful start up! Liked the gush of clag that billowed out! :)

  • @alanosborne5809
    @alanosborne5809 11 років тому +65

    What a great sound, I remember watching these as a kid (late 60's) at Finsbury Park (London). You could hear one coming from a mile away. I can't believe they chopped up about 15 of these for scrap metal.
    Does anyone know whether any of the remaining locos are used for "Driver Experiences" I drove a 37 class at Llangollen Railways last Sept it was brilliant, while on hoilday from Australia, and I would come back again for a crack in a Deltic.

  • @TDIMAXDIESEL
    @TDIMAXDIESEL 7 років тому +2

    Best beautiful Deltic I have seen !

  • @odenviking
    @odenviking 3 роки тому +3

    I realy love the sound of the deltic and i love the body work and the liveries .
    It is so nice to see a such lovley loco in preservation.
    😊👍😊😊👍👍👍👍

  • @MrAvant123
    @MrAvant123 3 роки тому +4

    Amazing how easily these deltics start, meanwhile the class 37's and 50's painfully splutter and smoke into life !

  • @jimnopadee
    @jimnopadee 11 років тому +10

    The only way to achieve the correct piston timing was for the bottom crankshaft to rotate anti clockwise. There isn't enough room, or I would have shown you a timing diagram. Anyway the phasing gearbox easily absorbs any difficulty. The engine is still running happily on H M ships in the Royal Navy.

  • @tommoss2005
    @tommoss2005 3 роки тому +1

    Love the sound of the Deltic. Like no other.

  • @stonent
    @stonent 6 років тому +24

    1:07 Job done! Time for a cuppa.

  • @TheRetroShed
    @TheRetroShed 4 роки тому +2

    What a gorgeous machine!

  • @raineradler5652
    @raineradler5652 6 років тому +32

    Mega die Lokomotive, Ihr Briten habt es auch drauf. Großes Kompliment., Glg from Bavaria

    • @paulpugh5315
      @paulpugh5315 3 роки тому

      can't understand your message,but hopefully your a fan....Import some of these engine's and make people happy.

    • @raineradler5652
      @raineradler5652 3 роки тому +9

      @@paulpugh5315 Dear Paul, I am a mechanical engineer and a big fan of diesel engines. The Deltic Motor is an ingenious construction. Which I admire very much and find very good. My praise goes to the inventiveness of the British. Greetings from Rainer from Bavaria

  • @Willykurtz
    @Willykurtz 3 роки тому +2

    British mechanic never works without cup of tea.

  • @Shaker626
    @Shaker626 5 років тому +8

    Must be one greasy cup of tea that guy's having.

    • @Meddled
      @Meddled 3 роки тому

      Even his tastebuds are deaf.

  • @HighFell
    @HighFell 6 місяців тому

    Watching these at full chat from site of Thirsk Junction on ECML was sensory overload! Awesome stuff 😊

  • @andrewgordon1017
    @andrewgordon1017 7 років тому +13

    What a beast!

  • @mmartinez6342
    @mmartinez6342 3 роки тому

    Amazing sound!! 👏👏👏

  • @Zontaar
    @Zontaar 8 років тому +15

    Still Luvin that awesome Napier Deltic Music!!!! :)

  • @DaveInBridport
    @DaveInBridport 11 років тому

    Superb video, awesome beast.

  • @paulkidger
    @paulkidger 11 років тому +6

    Jalu
    The name Deltic comes from the Greek letter Delta. Deltic, is the name of the engines but has also become to mean the Class 55 locos. The arrangement of the cylinders is in this form, namely a triangle, such that there are crankshafts at each corner (3 in total) and 2 opposed pistons in each cylinder. So the basic unit is 3 cylinders with 6 pistons, but practically, the engines were produced in 9 cylinder and 18 cylinder versions.

  • @siliquaesid703
    @siliquaesid703 8 років тому +22

    BEST loco EVER built IMHO.

    • @Grid56
      @Grid56 4 роки тому +1

      Only at high speed where the howl is quite fantastic, they really don't like low speed though. The growling 37s have proved more flexible (and hence long lived).

    • @gregrudd6983
      @gregrudd6983 4 роки тому

      I think you will find that the best loco built was the EMD SD40-2 followed by the EMD GP7-9 and EMD F3-9

    • @droge192
      @droge192 3 роки тому

      @@gregrudd6983 - Lol, sure!

  • @ColinH1973
    @ColinH1973 6 місяців тому

    What a wonderful burble. Everyone loves a Deltic!

  • @adamwright9517
    @adamwright9517 3 роки тому

    Fantastic model-making.

  • @nielshansen8223
    @nielshansen8223 6 років тому +1

    Great sound.

  • @dougson56
    @dougson56 3 роки тому +2

    As a second man in the 70’s driving these to re-fuel at Kings Cross was our first experience at the controls we were only supposed to use one engine but we always used two, we would crack open the throttle to full and be pushed back in our seats and cover the inside of KX canopy with black fumes . The only downside was rattling along at a ton and the steam heating boiler starting to play-up as it was between both Engines.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому +1

      dougson. So you cracked it full open going into Gasworks ? What about the 15 mph and the 8 mph limit on 1 route. I was always at the North end with only the North end engine running. My driver would always drive on to the train.

    • @dougson56
      @dougson56 2 роки тому +1

      @@arthurrytis6010 we shut off once we got halfway up the platform.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      @@dougson56 I hope Greggy wasn't watching

    • @dougson56
      @dougson56 2 роки тому

      @@arthurrytis6010 Do you know I’ve been trying to remember his name ! Do you remember a Gay driver from Finsbury Park I seem to remember he Said that he lived in those tall flats behind the shed , his name I recall was Peter , some of the other drivers used to wind me up and tell me that he would try to have it off with me 😂😂😂

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      @@dougson56 Peter Green.who was your regular mate ? Angry silence ? I can’t remember his name either

  • @NiallMS1
    @NiallMS1 9 років тому +4

    Love it!

  • @DieselDudeRailway
    @DieselDudeRailway 6 років тому +1

    Great Video.

  • @cycleSCUBA
    @cycleSCUBA 2 роки тому

    Great video. To think the Motor Torpedo Boats had Deltics is mindboggling. Not much longer than these locos!

  • @tpvalley
    @tpvalley 11 років тому

    I went to NYMR the other day and was surprised to see a deltic running;
    the only loco that u can feel in ur guts when it is idling!

  • @sebofo
    @sebofo 6 років тому +3

    Magnificent sound. Not like anything else.

  • @gnosticbrian3980
    @gnosticbrian3980 7 років тому +9

    I miss the way those engine's shook your insides, beasts.

    • @g.h.t.6881
      @g.h.t.6881 5 років тому

      Make you feel like you've been fracked.

  • @imissbritishleyland
    @imissbritishleyland 11 років тому

    She looks straight out of the box!

  • @likklej8
    @likklej8 Рік тому

    Love that BR Deltic livery

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 років тому +12

    Yes, in normal service with BR they used both engines.

  • @hell_pike9150
    @hell_pike9150 3 місяці тому

    Why am i listening to this at 11:00 p.m. on a Sunday 😁

  • @homefront3162
    @homefront3162 2 роки тому

    So glad they saved some of these engines

  • @CRISIS550166
    @CRISIS550166 8 років тому +2

    Ekins!!!! A pound for you.... Five for me! The man who like the money.

  • @johnbrown9092
    @johnbrown9092 5 років тому +1

    Magic!

  • @MrD2066_
    @MrD2066_ 13 років тому +1

    ive been in this beast at barrow hill 8-) on my birthday in december :O

  • @railandmodel
    @railandmodel 14 років тому +2

    Awesome :-)

  • @shoominati23
    @shoominati23 7 років тому +7

    I love that sound! POWER! it's saying open up my taps and LET ME RUN!!

  • @shanecallaghan6841
    @shanecallaghan6841 5 років тому +1

    What a train for starting straight away beautiful

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  14 років тому +1

    @ay76 thanks

  • @ph11p3540
    @ph11p3540 2 роки тому

    The more I learn about these weird engines the more I am impressed by them. Normally, I am not impressed with British machinery but Merlin airplane engines and now the Deltic impress me.

    • @whitemonkey7932
      @whitemonkey7932 2 роки тому

      How about jet engines?

    • @ph11p3540
      @ph11p3540 2 роки тому

      @@whitemonkey7932 Sorry. I forgot about the RR Trent engines.

    • @whitemonkey7932
      @whitemonkey7932 2 роки тому

      @@ph11p3540 hovercraft?

    • @MontyCantsin5
      @MontyCantsin5 Рік тому

      ‘’Normally, I am not impressed with British machinery’’
      What?

  • @robertwalker9366
    @robertwalker9366 2 роки тому

    Vibrate floor like ....😀 love the hum

  • @TheYTCable
    @TheYTCable 12 років тому +1

    what is the difference in fuel comsumption comparatively with the normal diesels?

  • @Bigsbeee
    @Bigsbeee 3 роки тому +1

    Gizza go !

  • @redroostermcmlxxl
    @redroostermcmlxxl 2 роки тому

    I love big engines.

  • @jimmyviaductophilelawley5587
    @jimmyviaductophilelawley5587 4 роки тому

    oh yes! deltics forever!

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  11 років тому +1

    I've seem them being driven by the public on some occations, but don't know of any currenly ready to drive. Preservation railways do it as and when deltics are on loan to them.

  • @stdavross666
    @stdavross666 7 років тому +1

    smooth

  • @EverardJunction
    @EverardJunction  14 років тому

    @SamueleusPlaythrough Thanks, i now have sony vegas which is complicated but so much better than movie maker, i think we need to make another silly film at some point.

  • @24nov67
    @24nov67 11 років тому

    why do these locomotives always have the engine compartment windows open? i'm guessing it's to do with the amount of heat generated by the two engines so therefore it must get extremely hot in there especialy when the engines are being run at full load.

  • @leegenix
    @leegenix 9 років тому +3

    Smooth start compared to inline or V-16 diesels.

    • @deeremeyer1749
      @deeremeyer1749 4 роки тому

      And then it runs and sounds like a rock crusher full of wrecking balls.

  • @370DatsunZed
    @370DatsunZed 2 роки тому

    That noise is biblical!!!

  • @bengepp9314
    @bengepp9314 3 роки тому

    1st word that came to mind ,,,,, Colossal......💪👊👌

  • @stevegreen443
    @stevegreen443 8 років тому +2

    POWER

  • @zaitunyusof762
    @zaitunyusof762 2 роки тому +1

    Guys you know what is br class 37 blue?

  • @mekydro
    @mekydro 11 років тому

    Thats true; the infamous blue 'Old Oak Haze' was nothing compared to the smog that emanated from the KX stabling point!

  • @philbartlett7898
    @philbartlett7898 2 роки тому

    How can something that looks so beautiful in two tone green sound like an utter bag of spanners when it is idling and shutting down. Graceful they look and boy, do they motor, but give me a conventional 4 cycle diesel anyday.
    Never saw DP2 but I reckon that was probably the ultimate

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna 2 роки тому

      Another commentator said `The clattering that can be heard (before start up) are the straight cut gears on the radiator fan drives.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      Phil Bartlett. Dp2 was a testbed for the class 50. Same engine 2,700 hp English Electric. The Deltic was 3,300 hp

  • @lonelywolf1966
    @lonelywolf1966 12 років тому +1

    best locos ever!!! loved em all but 55007 pinza was the best!!! :-)

  • @Fcutdlady
    @Fcutdlady 10 місяців тому

    not bad . the person in the cab didn't have to keep the start button held down for a good while. engine to turned over properly right away

  • @officertenpenny3421
    @officertenpenny3421 4 роки тому +1

    2000 liter?

  • @chrisp4170
    @chrisp4170 3 роки тому

    High speed engines and the fastest locos are so much more fun. The Ferraris of BR’s fleet of diesels!

  • @22fret
    @22fret 9 років тому

    Wow, she looks like being new...

  • @jamesknowles6472
    @jamesknowles6472 2 роки тому

    START YOU ..... SING MY BEAUTY, SING TO DADDY!!

  • @CosgroveNotts
    @CosgroveNotts 9 років тому +1

    Nice to see one that starts

  • @kpkndusa
    @kpkndusa 4 роки тому +1

    Nice, but I like the low RPM rumble of a GE loco.

  • @alanhutchins5916
    @alanhutchins5916 2 роки тому

    Now it's BR blue.

  • @mickbottomley6815
    @mickbottomley6815 3 роки тому

    are you getting one for your layout

  • @johnny5805
    @johnny5805 Рік тому

    She only has one power unit working still ?

  • @ceeview
    @ceeview 12 років тому

    You can't be serious at KX it was midday before you could see though Gas Works tunnel after the morning diesels left.

  • @fukhue8226
    @fukhue8226 2 роки тому

    Noisy but I'm sure they got the job done nicely. Obviously a good design because it's still running today.

    • @rogercantwell3622
      @rogercantwell3622 Рік тому

      Three times more expensive to run than a more conventional diesel, though. They were more or less a one-use loco for the ECML and the HSTs killed them off, being faster.

  • @khadijagwen
    @khadijagwen 8 років тому +4

    At first I heard a little rattly noise and then second I heard a much more robust noise. Was the first the starting motor?

    • @MichelLinschoten
      @MichelLinschoten 8 років тому

      +Khadijah Brown If this is a deltic, it's engine is insane..32 pistons in a triangle shape.

    • @khadijagwen
      @khadijagwen 8 років тому +1

      Michel Linschoten Yes, they do sound quite busy don't they? I was in a rail museum in Portland, Oregon yesterday that has a loco that looks very much like the Deltic but is not double ended and has a single V-12 ALCO. Manufactured in the early 1960's.
      Deltics are similar to a Fairbanks-Morse engine but only two cranks on a straight engine. They were deemed to be too complicated by the old line mechanics. We have a small submarine here that has a Fairbank-Morse of the same opposing piston design. They are fun to listen to.

    • @MrZorbatron
      @MrZorbatron 8 років тому +3

      +Michel Linschoten
      36 pistons, 18 cylinders.

    • @davidgriffiths7215
      @davidgriffiths7215 8 років тому

      Originally designed to power motor torpedo boats. (Look up "Napier Deltic" in Wikipedia if you don't believe me)

    • @johnmorley9676
      @johnmorley9676 8 років тому

      That's per engine, and the class 55 had two of them!

  • @chad24ist
    @chad24ist 12 років тому +5

    well said not to forget that the private train operators get more money now than BR ever got.

  • @TheYTCable
    @TheYTCable 12 років тому

    how old is it?

  • @jeanbonnefoy1377
    @jeanbonnefoy1377 2 роки тому

    But first thing first: a nice hot cuppa tea!

  • @paulkidger
    @paulkidger 11 років тому +1

    I think you are referring to the fact that two crankshafts rotated in one direction and the third in the opposite direction. I'm not sure the reason but I think that this was crucial in the operation of the Deltic and I think it was all to do with achieving an effective scavenge. The opposed pistons operated slightly out of phase with each other, in that way the fresh charge scavenged out the previous charge then gave some supercharging, before compression started.

  • @london19657
    @london19657 4 роки тому

    Needs to be louder! :)

  • @justinpeterson6839
    @justinpeterson6839 2 роки тому

    1:10 Tea time any time

  • @5695q
    @5695q 5 років тому +1

    Like some cars I've owned, beat it with a hammer to get the starter to work.

  • @DaveInBridport
    @DaveInBridport 11 років тому

    I (wrongly) assumed it was from diesel-electric. Never too old to learn!

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna 2 роки тому +2

      It is Diesel Electric with 2 off Diesel engines used in sequence (not parallel). Six electric traction motors. Search BR Class 55 & Napier Deltic.

  • @jonasthemovie
    @jonasthemovie 3 роки тому

    72 pistons. That’s many pistons.

  • @joeambaye8681
    @joeambaye8681 Рік тому

    Incredible sound!
    I love seeing the man drinking tea as he is removing the chokes😁

  • @randalllindemann3545
    @randalllindemann3545 2 роки тому +1

    So, all it takes to start one of these is a hammer and a cup of coffee?

  • @benters3509
    @benters3509 4 роки тому

    Only one engine out of the two started?

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna 2 роки тому

      Just one. Class 55s were usually driven on the main line using both Diesel engines but sometimes on slow duties only one was used. Because the engines were, I understand, used in sequence (not in parallel) the second engine could get `oiled up' with too much idling and so was often shutdown on slower, less arduous duties.

  • @Baribrotzer
    @Baribrotzer 4 роки тому

    Where are the headlights on a Deltic locomotive? I don't see any. Were they designed to not ever run at night? That seems unlikely.

    • @patagualianmostly7437
      @patagualianmostly7437 3 роки тому

      Headlights are a complete waste of time.
      Yes, they advertise your approach, so anyone on the tracks has time to get off.
      But the driver can see NOTHING outside of the beam.
      The night vision is totally destroyed.
      If he sees an obstacle within the beam...he is far too close to take any useful action.
      I read a similar comment the other day regarding the Titanic...1912..something to the effect that a headlight would have shown the iceberg earlier..... Dear-oh-dear.

  • @paulkidger
    @paulkidger 11 років тому

    Not strictly true. Not so much a primary and secondary...more of 2 of the same engine/generators each rated at about 1650 hp.

  • @hedydd2
    @hedydd2 3 роки тому

    How are these engines started? Do they use an explosive charge like some other two stroke diesels such as the Field Marshal tractor? It certainly seems to start more abruptly than when a conventional started motor or donkey engine is used. I heard three bangs and the Deltic has three crankshafts unless I'm mistaken. Could these three bangs be an explosive cartridge being activated for a cylinder in each crank or am I barking up the wrong tree?

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 3 роки тому +1

      The main generators were used to turn the engines from the battery's

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna 2 роки тому

      @@arthurrytis6010 The same as the way the Class 205 /207 Thumpers are started. Can you help me regarding that unrefined clattering sound before start up 0:50 ?? Presumably that's the engine itself making the noise may be due to larger clearances when cold and not properly lubricated ? Perhaps the engines are a little worn.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      @@Martindyna as far as I know most diesel engines are started by taking power from the battery's to turn the engine over via the main Gen. The only engine I know to make a lot of Clattering when turning over was the Deltic

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna 2 роки тому

      @@arthurrytis6010 Thanks. Another commentator said `The clattering that can be heard (before start up) are the straight cut gears on the radiator fan drives'.

    • @arthurrytis6010
      @arthurrytis6010 2 роки тому

      Huw Williams. Sorry to keep bashing on but I don't know of any British loco that was started by cartridge. It would not be practible.

  • @pierheadjump
    @pierheadjump 2 роки тому

    That BLOWS!!! No blowdown 🤨 No prelude 🤬 Shot from standing outside … WTF?

  • @kdlehel
    @kdlehel 12 років тому

    2 stroke or 4 stroke?

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna 2 роки тому +1

      2 stroke .... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Deltic

  • @lauriedavies172
    @lauriedavies172 3 роки тому

    yer man is a star. .....'yes, just do this here......oh, she's started, .....goodo.....i'm off (mug of tea appears from nowhere).

  • @ronnieg6358
    @ronnieg6358 5 років тому

    Was that both engines starting?

    • @droge192
      @droge192 3 роки тому

      Only one. Only one engine is ever used in Heritage / Gala and even mainline freight use these days.

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna 2 роки тому +1

      Just one. Class 55s were usually driven on the main line using both Diesel engines but sometimes on slow duties only one was used. Because the engines were, I understand, used in sequence (not in parallel) the second engine could get `oiled up' with too much idling and so was often shutdown on slower, less arduous duties.

  • @TheYTCable
    @TheYTCable 12 років тому

    but 2 stroke always burn the fuel better make very little smoke