Ba Gua Zhang for Beginners, The Footwork!
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Ba Gua Zhang for Beginners, The Footwork. Make your Bagua or Pakua circle and start walking! Follow my tips and I hope you enjoy my favorite style of Internal Chinese Kung Fu!
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I’m here bc I want to audition for the Netflix Airbender series 🤣 Wish me luck, I’ve only got three years of dance experience
Good fricking luck bud!
Doctor Disco thank you!
Good luck man! Hope you nail it :)
good luck! hope you get there ^_^
breezter did you get in
Who came here to learn airbending techniques^^^^^???
Oh my Goo!! How did you know?
Hahaha!!!
+Shehara Hernandez-Robinson wrong air bending techniques*
Shehara Hernandez-Robinson me
Shehara Hernandez-Robinson me
pretty much
airbending tattoos here I come
My thoughts exactly!
Excited! Rofl
I think I saw that in Korra, during season 1 where she was learning how to air bend.
i only searched this so i can pretend im air bending
Like if you came here from avatar
A big fat like from me
Came here from avatar and naruto
Ba Gua Zhang for Beginners, The Footwork. Make your Bagua or Pakua circle and start walking! Follow my tips and I hope you enjoy my favorite style of Internal Chinese Kung Fu!
"Sliding feet" has training purposes. It's one of a number of stepping methods in Bagua.
+DasGroßeWerk Cool there you go! It's also used to train the muscles for "shoveling" so you can shovel into someone's legs. It also has Qigong application. Chicken step is even more odd looking but useful to train the legs.
@@Astaraa If you are still here- is his upper body form (angle, tension, rotation) generally correct in this video? (There are no teachers in my area- I've only done Okinawa derivative, but the lower spine v neck torsion ideas, waist-thigh angles, arm-shoulder relationships seem compelling esp. In the context of the Circle training idea.)
People new to martial arts and especially to internal martial arts: Lineage is crucial !! Before studying with anyone, find out who taught them, then find out who taught that teacher. Do your homework, or you will be ripped off at the least and possibly injured at the worst. A lot of what you need to know to practice well on your own is taught one on one. Some of these masters can be expensive and you may have to travel a bit, but it will be worth it. There are several styles of Baguazhang and a little research will turn up their known masters. Also, very few people are masters of more than one style, it takes many years to learn one well. I'd be very skeptical of someone teaching 4,5 6 styles that are different from each other.
i disagree. lineage matters not, only in the USA do teachers focus so much on *showing off* their lineages. what truly matters is internal skill. two teachers of the same lineage might have a completely different level of neigong...
Lynwe Interesting way of putting it, "showing off" their lineages. I agree in a way, especially in the US. It seems that in the USA, the more "pure" your "lineage", the more you can charge for classes. However, do you agree that transmission is important when it comes to neigong skills, and therefore lineage would carry at least some weight in this instance?
kungfuman82 I agree, it certainly does help to have a great teacher who can show you how things were practiced 500 years ago, a long way back in the lineage. This is the case of my master in China, but he never even talks about it, never calls himself lineage holder, although he is, in fact. however, most lineages' teachers are like the extremities of very small branches on a gigantic tree. they aren't unique "lineage holders". in China they never mention it, unless you ask. I chose my master because of his insane skill and his awesome and gentle personality! lol
so, when I see people claiming to be lineage holders in the west, it automatically turns on my bullshit detector. most of the time, they have to compensate their lack of skill with fancy lineage talk. but in the end, they practice the exact same thing as people of other lineages.
Lynwe "so, when I see people claiming to be lineage holders in the west, it automatically turns on my bullshit detector. most of the time, they have to compensate their lack of skill with fancy lineage talk. but in the end, they practice the exact same thing as people of other lineages."
That's so amazingly stated that I've transformed into a white girl and I can't even right now.
Of course, but if I was interested in studying with someone, I'd want to know who their teacher(s) is/was. But, that shouldn't be the first thing they say. If I know of some great teacher x, it would be easy to check if someone said they were a student of x. It's also always a good strategy to observe a class before taking one from a new teacher.
i airbendied
Jake steps forth once again, in his own inimitable form and calls it Bagua :). I used to get annoyed at how far off mark he is to the internal arts, but now I actually like watching his vids when I need a good laugh. I also use them as a teaching aid showing how not to approach internal martial and nei gong training.
I studied Liu Ha Ba Gua Hsing-i with Grandmaster Way Lun Choi, who studied in Shanghai. I am old, and not the master my teacher was. I do understand much, and I want to share. Just about any Chi-gung prepares students physically for the martial activity that some hope to master. I want to compliment Jake for helping inspire others to get off their duffs and get healthy, for gosh sake, we can either build each other up and benefit the students and their communities or tear each other down to the point where not much gets done. Give the guy a break! By the way, perhaps I misunderstood GM Choi, but the point of it all isn't really fighting, but developing the WHOLE PERSON in order to help them have other options than just fighting, when appropriate. And, speaking from experience, Nei Jia, including what the southern Chinese call Ba Gua Chang san-so, is a potent defensive/offensive system, but only for people with self-discipline, good character, correct respect for the talent and accomplishments of others, the proper motivation and objectives, excellent coordination, and frankly, at least measurable intelligence. For others, there are other ways.
He still is a master... Been a while since you did that one week introductory course eh? Maybe you are so old that you forget where your "master" came from? Hong Kong I thought...Shanghai Liu He Ba Fa is usually referred to as the Orthodox form, as opposed to the Hong Kong form. And my god man, there is no such thing as "Liu Ha Ba Gua Hsing-i... Normally I just watch these for a joke, but you are dropping a real old fighters name as if ; 1. You know him, and 2. He would condone this travesty. You should apologize.
Insults tell me more about you than you would ever understand. If you'd like, I am sure Mr Choi could straighten you out.
***** ua-cam.com/video/-ydwdxL6LsI/v-deo.html
Studied a few years with Mr Choi and Jack. Has anybody ever read your inventory to you? Highly recommended.
Amen.
I randomly found this martial art and It seems very interesting!!! Im a dance student and I got very interested in this, that I will base my next choreography assignment in this technique !! That video helps allot !! Thank you !
I first learned it from David Pohlmann here in Phoenix, Arizona! Then I trained with Matt Small, David and Sharon Soard, Jason Carr, Sin The', and in China when I travel there about every other year! But, I no longer train with Jason Carr, David Pohlmann, David and Sharon Soard, or Sin The'.
Although, Matt Small and I are still good friends and colleagues and we train together to this day! He just taught Ba Gua Spear in AZ!
This Style of Ba Gua is called fundamental or classical Bagua!
NOne of those people hold any lineage in baguazhang, especially not sin the fake master The. golden cockroach form please bitch.
Oh my I came here after reading a comment on an ido portal video where this form was mentioned. I have just completely ruptured my distance bicep tendon on my right arm. I’ve practiced Qui gong tai chi for 30 years and now I see this. I’m blown away with the implications. Thank you so much for putting this on you tube. I don’t know how it will help me but I feel it in my core and this Bagauzhang is going to help me get back 🙏 Grateful
Tuck in your butt when walking, keep your hands in front of your chest, twist more into the circle using your waist, concave the chest. Don't lock your elbow, keep your feet closer to the ground when walking. More emphasis on your kou bu and Bai bu steps. Walk ALOT more correctly to harness the health and combat benefits of circle turning.
if anyone needed to mudstep its this guy jake. now he hustles his wife on youtube for views
Of course you wouldn't slide walk in combat. The Tang Ni Bu or mud wading (sliding) step is used in practice to develop Gong Fu. In addition to balance and rooting, it is also one of the fundamental kicks in Ba Gua.
I love how there isn't a single comment that is not about avatar
Everyone here, I’d appreciate it if you guys come here to learn as the martial art itself and respect the martial art, not just because you want to look cool because it was in a cartoon.
He is doing all things wrong, This is not Bagua - fake
How do you know ? Where is your proof?
maybe not entirely or unorthodoxly but there are still something you can take from
I agree with fedor. This is not a deep enough understanding of baguazhang to teach or share. Several people here have given some basic details regarding stepping. To dismiss the different stepping methods and their very detailed fundamentals is to dismiss baguazhang as a martial art.
This is pretty rough. I work with a 10th degree grand master and this is definitely not anywhere close to ba gua. Very rigid and external. No sinking, no centripetal force, devoid of any essence. Look up anything by 'Wang Li Ping'. Seek out a teacher in person.
The rigidity is the worst part. Tense tense tense.
@@MsBob314 The worst part for me is that practicing like this can kill the knees in the long run.
Is the back supposed to be so arched during the walk? Ive been doing zhan zhuang (pole meditation). Ive been told to pull my head (imagine pony tail) upward to stretch out the spine, relax lower back to tuck in tailbone, and hence remove that arch. When i do arch and have my butt out a bit, my root is lost at the hip. I test it by having friend push my chest. Im just assuming the principle should be the same for bagua circle walking which it might not be. Im new to bagua so i wanted to ask.
Although, Matt Small and I are still good friends and colleagues and we train together to this day! He just taught Ba Gua Spear in AZ!
This is exactly where it came from. Airbending was based on bagua. Water on Taiji, Earth on Hung gar and Fire on Northern Shaolin
I could do a lot of interesting things to that locked out arm.
I’m lefty so I just use opposite hands and feet for this airbending
someone please explain how crossing your feet does not open you up to attack.
Thank you!
This guy is a joke. Do not use this as a reference for bagua footwork. That is absolutely not mud-walking.
if you ignorantly paid attention, Jake does not believe in mud walking for combat, I also do not use mud walking for actual combat, it serves no purpose-stop being a hater!
Takeshi Miyagi well I don’t believe that Jake actually knows enough ba gua Zhang to be teach it. He literally said that sliding your feet is stupid. That’s so ignorant and arrogant. It’s like saying horse stance is stupid because you can’t fight in a horse stance.
@@TheManofsorrows it serves a purpose, but when doing it the right way....chi must be in dan tian all time, when you see this guy his hips are not relaxed at all, so how can he transmit power and stability and structure? Its all internals style concepts, if he doesnt believe in this, then is no more internal, just bad external....i would say just empty techniques that cannot be used
Simply the best king jake rules
The sliding step is not ridiculous and does in fact have different applications, including health benefits, if taught correctly. Check out Tom Bisio's books/dvd's as he explains it very well.
mudstepping is a training tool.
But how can you use Bagua in fighting or defending yourself
Oh.I remember that stance belongs to Ling Xiaoyu :D
Hey thanks so much!
I like the idea of gliding and pushing for power! Anything to increase your connection to the Earth is good! I'm keeping my arms "rounded" with a slight bend in the elbow but not totally straight! You also want a tenacious strength in your arms!
this is a horrible description of what is real, Please go get some training.
Jake is a forms queen. If that's your jam, then give him all your money...that's what he's in it for, but don't get suckered into believing he's going to teach you anything of value. My 2c.
Thanks now I can practice my earokinesis body
he work with her muscles, her movements doesn't internals, its imitation of good dancer or fitness trainer
Cool! Good luck!
I'm working on a very dodgy and evasive fighting style, something where I do not physically have to attack or strike my opponent but if I get attacked I can still protect myself and keep myself from getting hurt, I saw the footwork and motion and thought this would be a good place to start learning what I call "ghost fighting" I just want to know from someone with more experience if this is actually a good martial art to learn for what I am looking for
Yes because both of them are full of shit.
I can see why they used this style for the airbenders in Avatar.
AGREED, sliding feet is nonsense. I learned to walk the circle daily for meditation with no martial intentions at all and I questioned the sliding. "Absorb what is useful..."
can someone who's disabled do Bauga?
Totally inaccurate and dangerously misleading.
+TheEnneagram Agreed. He's not even an adequate beginner. e.g. his "mud-walking" is totally--rather, 200% WRONG. Clueless and proud enough to teach what he doesn't know.
Honey Badger Does Not Care; Fa-Jing Your Ass.
You have a great screen name, there's no arguing that. On the other hand, most videos (and teachers) are clueless about bagua stepping. Jake is in a category all his own, of course, but he's not alone in being more than 100% wrong. Did I mention what an awesome screen name you have, by the way?
+TheEnneagram Where's a good video?
Quantum Mechanik Hi QM. Thanks for asking. I recommend the "Flying Tortoise" channel for high quality Bagua videos. There's one specifically on footwork, but the channel as a whole is quite good. Cheers.
+TheEnneagram can you upload a correct one?
This is beginner stepping, but the foundational elements seem over-simplified. Natural stepping focuses on having the knees almost brush together, forcing the thigh and core to evenly distribute weight between the legs. Since you're walking in reverse of Pre-Heaven, Yang stepping, your vision should be focused on the hollow pt. between the thumb & forefinger.. The Mud Wade stepping, traditionally, has a sliding foot. Fight on loose gravel or a sandy floor & you'll understand its purpose.
This video waters down and makes light of Ba Gua. Ba Gua is a Taoist tradition. And it is not a meditation in the Taoist sense. From an American point of view meditation is seen as anything from contemplation, visualization, to a deep practice that brings one closer to their true nature. Ba Gua is not a type of meditation in the Taoist sense. In Taoism meditation is a technique to open the internal energy blockages in the 8 bodies, including chi, emotion, mind, psychic level and so on. Ba Gua is certainly an amazing art but in itself it is not meditation. To learn the energy movement aspect, one should start with chi gung, nei gung and tai chi. Ba Gua is an advanced Taoist practice. It is not simply a physical movement accompanied by focus. When introducing ba gua the person in the video should say he is only doing the physical movements and that is merely a first stage among dozens in practicing ba gua.
You are missing the single most important fundamental principle of Internal Chinese Martial Arts (Tai Chi, Qi Gong, Ba Gua Zhang, etc.) and that is to keep the spine straight by tilting the pelvis slightly forward and lifting the head up with the chin tucked in; like being held up by a piece of string. This facilitates the correct Qi flow of Ren Mai (Conception Vessel) and Du Mai (Governing Vessel) while the tongue gently presses against the roof of the mouth. You have your arse hanging out dude
Honestly avatar inspired me to see life differently. The thing iroh says really does hit a different way. I really wanna learn these to actually feel a new sense of tranquility it looks so beautiful and relaxing when mastered
What does that mean? "Classical"
Without commenting on the inner techniques, the front arm itself is straightened too much. The elbow needs to rest downwards but not up like this.
It's funny, it looks like mime !
This Style of Ba Gua is called fundamental or classical Bagua!
SOOOOOO many things wrong with this, Muddy step is not picking your feet up like walking in mud, its sliding in mud so that you always have contact with the ground, always rooted, never standing on one foot off balance, and by staring at the back of his kuckle he is cutting off his energy not projecting it to the center of the circle
Sorry, but this is not Baguazhang. I am currently learning it from a master, whose family has been teaching it for many generations (I am learning from the grandfather. He, his son, grandson, and descendants all won the Baguazhang championship in China multiple times) and I can already tell so much is wrong here from such a short video. The wrongest thing is probably your steps. No “Kung Fu master” would lift their feet this high or roll from heel to ball. Furthermore, the inner food should step straightforward to avoid unbalance. Also, the feet are always either stepping on the circle or in a right angle to the circle, not so,where in between. Your body is not turned all the way and there is no tension between your feet or hands. Your upper body is too stiff; it is not stretching towards the inner circle as one is supposed to do but rather tensed there, so that your movement is constricted. The pelvis should be at a right angle to the circle center, while still turning the upper body so that it is facing the center of the circle. Your hands are another big problem, you cannot just point your hand in whichever direction you want to in whichever form you like - the inner when should be pointing straight upward, the outer hand should have a cutting force downward, while stretching forward, turning the upper body, while the fingers point toward the elbow of the inner arm and your wrist should lead the way of your hand. The inner hand should also be higher: the corner between your thumb and index finger should be on eye height. Your inner arm is also too straight, even I could easily break the elbow if you were to attack me...
The wrist leads the hand and in turn is led by your arm that is connected to your shoulder, which connects to the other arm, so that there is the tension and balance I was talking about earlier. The shoulders turn at the same time as the pelvis, which is turned by the feet, which get their strength from the ground. Otherwise you won’t be able to use all the strength available, because it is halted somewhere where the tension is not there all the way from your feet to your hands. Also, what is with your behind? The tailbone should point downward with your pelvis kind of turned upward.
These are just some of the problem I have noticed after watching about 3 minutes of this video. If you really want to learn Baguazhang, please don’t do it from him. He himself still has a lot to learn.
And yes, you would slide like that in a fight. Otherwise, lifting your feet as high as that gives an experienced real Kung-Fu master the opportunity to easily put you off balance by just moving in. You aren’t rooted at all if you lift your feet as high as that. You have not seen the two masters who train me (the grandfather and his son, whom I mentioned earlier). They are like literal predators when they move forward with this sliding force and are unbelievably fast, so fast that after they have covered the distance to you, hit you, and then returned to their original spot, you are able to react. This is possible because of the tension between the two feet and moving your pelvis. The two have unbelievable strength from training different hitting techniques on the air and picturing someone attacking them, resulting in them reflectively defending themselves while attacking at the same time and being able to give someone nosebleeds with blood cloths by hitting their temples, even with boxing gloves and the opponent wearing a helmet during training (since then, he hasn’t used full force to hit anyone again, even if they are wearing protective gear). The grandfather had someone challenge him for then training center that he opened and he easily defeated the challenger without getting hit once. I wonder how often this man was challenged or was in a real fight, and has won...
Edit: I just continued watching and wow, the turns are even worse than expected... you won’t be able to protect any body part, let alone defeat an attacker.
Nice work! You are the best!
Airbending
ua-cam.com/video/-ydwdxL6LsI/v-deo.html real bagua. Real airbending.
Xoreign I love it!
Sweet! I like a lot of his lessons and style! I'll check it out! Thanks!
If I had never seen Bagua before this I would think its real but the basis of Bagua is circle walking. You slide your feet for a reason. It's for balance and planting. I've been an active martial artist since I was 2 years old. Don't practice this stepping. It's wrong. And honestly it's disrespectful. Have you ever even trained Bagua or did you just look at a few clips on the web? Absolutely ridiculous
This would be so more believable if you didn't say you have been an active martial artist since 2 years old.
Only Oni my son is only two and already copies me doing long fist and tai chi and can do it by himself so it's totally possible
dishirai my son and daughter both started at 2
imnotyourSAAN I agree with you. Out of all the internal systems Baqua is complex. and guess what the older you get, it's harder. Baqua must be practiced everyday and you need s good master or high level practitioner to correct you! Just an understanding of the terminology and history doesnt quality one to teach. I haven't seen many real Baqua teachers here. Usually American teachers are not very high level though some.may have beneficial knowledge. I'm practicing Baqua and even showed parts of the form to beginners with permission from my shifu. But Everytime I feel like I'm improving, I see people on way higher levels, sometimes frustration sets in but I keep practicing though I'm injured, which flares up a lot. However a strong Tai chi background will prepare one for Baqua. I would advise Mr. Mace not to make videos in things that he wasn't taught. Though I can't attack Mr. Mace in all his arts because he actually looks very good in some of his forms and movements. We should never be arrogant and be humble. These Chinese arts came from China and most of the greatest masters are from China!
The great masters in China are getting there ass kicked by an mma guy!!! Those Chinese masters SUCK ASS!!!!
I'll bet you wouldn't even last one round in mma
beginners should not be trying to teach beginners in martial arts, the lack of understanding spreads and will get people hurt.
water earth fire air .. long ago
This is anything you want but it is not a bit of bagua.
thx i noticed a power STRENGTH very deep down within my core that's there now
Mud wading isn't just a parlor trick. It's like the bagua equivalent to the horse stance in shaolin. No shit you wouldn't use it in actual combat. That doesn't change the fact that it is a crucial fundamental practice to maintain correct form and build a strong foundation in bagua
I also agree that you would slide like mud when fighting, probably only when you are sliding side wards to avoid attack.
So, if you don't like what tou see here, Mike Patterson still give private lessons.
Word
Jet li's "the one" had a similar scene.
This is a bit better than your other videos with regard to bagua, but i cant imagine that you actually TEACH people with it. It is a level of a beginner. People who think to learn from him please watch other bagua clips, so you can see that he has no idea. Ridiculous footwork!!
I agree!
People keep saying airbending, airbending but this makes me think of the dance between Katara and Aang so Im thinking this is more waterbending style.
Great - subscribed - thank you!
Airbending slice
Thanks!
100% wrong.
+Kateřina Krumpálová where is the wrong?
+nikos t its wrong all over the place. that is not how the single palm change is done in traditional Pa Kua. Jake is doing, or trying to, the communist party's performance arts. Like wushu.
Jake does not posses kung-fu.
Tgis bagua is wrong and his body is stiff as a board,and no waste movement at all, my teacher looked better than all these guys
Wow thanks, i gonna use this for my adhs :/.. No i can do something against this with something that really interests me. Thank You!
i don't know ba gua zhang but it looks correct to me...if anyone think it's not then upload a yours one .
That was fascinating !
he is in it fof the money kids! Hey lets all go out and grab a cam, borrow some money from mom to rent a studio and PLAY kung fu in the hopes of getting turning a profit!
Thanks for uploading this...i would like to learn the art of circle!
then don't learn from this busted faker.
No wonder Why Xiaoyu has that hynotist move because Ba Gua Zhang is her Fighting Style
I wish I could get you off of youtube so you don't get the beginners all screwed up. this is not beginning!
Great tutorial. I was just surprised to hear Jake say that someone's preference to slide(mud walk) was ridiculous to him. Jake is usually honorable to the philosophies of others. My teacher, Sijo Abdul Mutakabbir teaches us to RESPECT all Martial Sciences, and be careful not to discount or discredit information, but rather gain understanding. Jake Mace still rocks though.
Thank you Jake, im new to this, any advice?
wooow!!This is good,ShaolinCenter.gonna subscribe.thanxabunch
why don't anybody report this channel... total bs and misleading.
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At the beginning I want to apologize for my English. For second if u find for a while can u show a few arm lock from Bagua Zhang system?
Please hindi espeach
I would love to learn Bagua but I bet lessons are costly but to learn such graceful movements I would pay anything to learn from a master in person(: for now imma learn through videos
I feel bad for the avatar in the life action he will have to learn all 4 of them
Ho my good
this is all great, but can you do it very slowly, especially right after rotating the other way, you make a switch, but it is way too quick for me to catch it. sorry I'm a very slow guy. And I really want to do this. but I can't mimic them all. :(....
Heaven, Lake, Fire, Thunder, Wind, Water, Mountain, Earth
Nice work. Bagua is basically having the same effect as taichi. They have different style, different theory, but same purpose, same outcome. Taichi helps retain mobility of seniors, Bagua helps as well. Both are originated from Taoism whenTaichi means circulation and Bagua means change. Bagua and Taichi is just like the Yin and Yang in Taoist martial arts, both utilize the law of forces (Physics) while Buddhism martial arts are utilizing human psychology
Everything you just typed is totally wrong, start over.
Where's the Bagua? All I see is Chinese ballerina moves.
finding it so confusing! practicing lots tho:)
"you would never fight with sliding feet" - tell that to the Japanese styles of martial arts.
what style of Ba Gua is this?
it's a joke?