So crucial: "The Yi and the Qi must come together. The power of the Qi is not the Yi leading it, the power of the Qi is the integrating with this energy as you build it." Thank you for stating this so clearly 🙏
@LotusNeiGong So happy hearing you talk about Baguazhang again. I took your course for two years, but found myself slacking off the regular training... So I stopped. But it's realy nice hearing these new precise clarifications. 🙂🙏🏼
My 2nd teacher used to say “it is very sad that there must be a designation called ‘internal bagua’ …” So many people practice it as though it were shuai jiao … or Long Fist. Thanks for being awesome my friend ❤
Good explenation. What is your take on xingyi baguazhang combination styles and the use of chi? Is it different or like baguazhang with xingyi elements added?
Use qi built in other practices to pressurize eight regions of the body, to create internal shapes, to move the body on planes. Sounds like fun! Have fun in Vegas, Damo @LotusNeiGong !
Good video I can see that you have sunken your chi to create a root. Also I can see good body alignment of the six harmonies hip/shoulder,knees/elbows, and hands/feet.,✌️
Use qi built in other practices to pressurize eight regions of the body, to create internal shapes, to move the body on planes. Sounds like fun! Have fun in Las Vegas, Damo @LotusNeiGong
Another nice intellectual explanation thank's I let my body move in the eternity symbol, (or figure of eight) middle top bottom, and out in a circle or diagonal, allowing my breath to enable the void of in-between, the silent part. another nonsense from the land off whoop whoop dear Damoplease don't exclude me I need You to keep me sane
Very interesting. I have a book on emei bagua that includes some talk of 8 directions, but one teacher emphasizes just circle walking for first 3 years (just completed) and the other focuses on combat applications.
Hey Damo, great demonstration! I love the hydrostatic pressure ballon example, noticing the spaces inside fill is fascinating. Would you say that the 8 directions also come into play with the foundational nei gong? Even in wuji, the angles/directions are still a bit wobbly for me, but I'm making progress incrementally, thanks~Kate
A mate of mine just came back from Las Vegas. Beware the sun..! He came back pretty heavily burnt (yang), especially on one side as he was driving (yin). ;)-
@@LotusNeiGong great.. One more question if you will.. Say I've spent a few years properly developing the tai chi body, would I then need less time to develop the bagua body or would I need to "start from scratch"? Are the 3 body developments independent of each other or is there some degree of overlap? Thanks again for the podcasts. Very insightful 😁
How would Qi be a substance? A substance means a form of matter that has a specific composition & there is no evidence that Qi is a tangible substance that can be seen, felt & measured. "Substance" seems to be an incorrect term when talking about Qi.
Chi has definite feeling as it flows through the body. For me at first it was a warm flush feeling as it moved. Now it has many different expressions depending on my intention.
@@julianroninbb Someday they will have a machine that can detect and measure it. It took centuries to find ways to ways to discover all the different sound and light frequencies. The chinese and others have been writings about their experiences for millennia. It is the whole basis for Chinese medicine. I read the Tai Chi classic book and trained until the feeling just came up from the ground out to my hand while I was doing slow ITF Taekwondo forms. I hadn’t even learned tai chi yet. Anybody can do it. It just takes years.
It changes so that you can do Bagua :) this makes the body able to mobilise as it should according to the style. This is the nature of Chinese systems, they should be performed with the right conditions present in the body. If you are asking deeper, as to why somebody should even do Bagua, then that is personal choice and interest mostly :)
@LotusNeiGong makes sense. I guess my mind always tries to find some desirable payoff. Neigong, for example, and taichi to some extent, seems to have "benefits" in life that go beyond the art itself. For better or worse, turns out I belong in the group of people you've mentioned that seek the art to enhance their life/path 😅 Still, the way the body moves in Bagua is fascinating. The shape itself is very pleasing and the mechanics, from the little I know, make more intuitive sense than taichi's (for me at least).
When done correctly, the pre-heaven (neijia Quan) the effects of the deep diaphragmic/belly breathing are the same as in taiji Quan, and/or Xing-Yi Quan; the difference being circle walking and movements inside said circle as opposed to linear or more free movement for Xing-Yi and Taiji, respectively. Like the aforementioned internal styles, Baguazhang is great for stability and balance, but differs as it adds a unique ankle, Achilles tendon, and foot strengthening exercise, in how it incorporates its circle walk; especially in style such as the wrestling style of Cheng Bagua, and the hybrid Gao bagua. Another stand out is the “walking with your hips and core extended, as opposed to waking with your rear out to gain more depth. Like taiji, pre-heaven bagua focuses on relaxed, slow to moderate moment, with a heavy focus of glide stepping, mud walking, or chicken stepping; which ever practice suits you best. Bagua (Cheng and Gao) is my preferred flavor of the style, and its external and internal benefits are just as good as Xing-Yi and Taiji.
Nothing “basic” about this video. Basic body method is about alignment and body posture. All this video says is basically that if you don’t have already developed qi you can’t do Bagua. Because understanding the qi is the basics. Weird indeed.
It is ‘basic’ for Bagua. This is a part of why the style is so difficult. Other systems may begin with things like posture and alignment but Baguazhang assumes you already have this. Qi is the start point for Bagua. This is why it was not seen as an art that you start with. Nothing weird about that 😂
@@LotusNeiGong I studied Bagua for over 15 years and I’ve studied 3 different Bagua styles, all of them have very different approaches to body method and beginners practice. What you are talking about is definitely NOT standard beginners practice in any of them. Generalizing all Bagua into one style and method is also completely wrong.
You can object all you wish. My view is different to yours and, to me, this is where Bagua begins, anything less is not really Bagua, no matter how many years you do it 🤷🏼♂️
So crucial:
"The Yi and the Qi must come together. The power of the Qi is not the Yi leading it, the power of the Qi is the integrating with this energy as you build it."
Thank you for stating this so clearly 🙏
Thank you 🙏🏻
This is one of the major distinctions where my view differs from many others
Thank you for sharing! I got to experience your light in Houston!
Much love and light to you!
This so much like wave surfing. Your mind is completely absorbed in the moment..... stillness opens the way out.
@LotusNeiGong So happy hearing you talk about Baguazhang again.
I took your course for two years, but found myself slacking off the regular training... So I stopped.
But it's realy nice hearing these new precise clarifications. 🙂🙏🏼
My 2nd teacher used to say “it is very sad that there must be a designation called ‘internal bagua’ …”
So many people practice it as though it were shuai jiao … or Long Fist.
Thanks for being awesome my friend ❤
The internal arts arts a gift to mankind. A Gift from who?
Gratitude. Thank you Damo!!
Curaçao.
Thanks so much! I really appreciate you sharing what you do.....
I practice bagua, started with Lau Gar. Thank you for this video it is very helpful
Good explenation. What is your take on xingyi baguazhang combination styles and the use of chi? Is it different or like baguazhang with xingyi elements added?
Excellent. Thank you.
Use qi built in other practices to pressurize eight regions of the body, to create internal shapes, to move the body on planes. Sounds like fun! Have fun in Vegas, Damo @LotusNeiGong !
Good video I can see that you have sunken your chi to create a root.
Also I can see good body alignment of the six harmonies hip/shoulder,knees/elbows, and hands/feet.,✌️
Use qi built in other practices to pressurize eight regions of the body, to create internal shapes, to move the body on planes. Sounds like fun! Have fun in Las Vegas, Damo @LotusNeiGong
Another nice intellectual explanation thank's I let my body move in the eternity symbol, (or figure of eight) middle top bottom, and out in a circle or diagonal, allowing my breath to enable the void of in-between, the silent part. another nonsense from the land off whoop whoop dear Damoplease don't exclude me I need You to keep me sane
Thanks Damo
Very interesting. I have a book on emei bagua that includes some talk of 8 directions, but one teacher emphasizes just circle walking for first 3 years (just completed) and the other focuses on combat applications.
Id love more about bagua on this channel. It'll be a few years before I get through current curriculum and can get your program
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. 🙂🙏🏼☯️
Thank you!
👏👏👏👏 good video
does baguazhang have a role in the nei gong process?
Amazing, 🙏
Hey Damo, great demonstration! I love the hydrostatic pressure ballon example, noticing the spaces inside fill is fascinating. Would you say that the 8 directions also come into play with the foundational nei gong? Even in wuji, the angles/directions are still a bit wobbly for me, but I'm making progress incrementally, thanks~Kate
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas 😁😁😁
The eight directions, as used in Bagua, are not a major part of NG though there are a few similar components :)
Are you coming to Chicago? If so, when and where?
A mate of mine just came back from Las Vegas. Beware the sun..! He came back pretty heavily burnt (yang), especially on one side as he was driving (yin). ;)-
Would the tai chi, bagua and xingyi body developments conflict or interfere with each other if say one trains in all 3 arts?
They do not clash, no :)
@@LotusNeiGong great.. One more question if you will.. Say I've spent a few years properly developing the tai chi body, would I then need less time to develop the bagua body or would I need to "start from scratch"? Are the 3 body developments independent of each other or is there some degree of overlap? Thanks again for the podcasts. Very insightful 😁
It looks like you are in my neighborhood. Seriously, -- I'm just east of The Strat (between Las Vegas Blvd, & Maryland Pkwy)...
And yeah, -- we don't go outside until the sun goes down, (if we can help it).
How would Qi be a substance? A substance means a form of matter that has a specific composition & there is no evidence that Qi is a tangible substance that can be seen, felt & measured. "Substance" seems to be an incorrect term when talking about Qi.
You would have to train to understand :)
The Qi must be worked until it takes on a form as it interacts with the body :)
@@LotusNeiGonga bit of non answer there 😅 Seems to be a sort of religious type of answer.
Chi has definite feeling as it flows through the body. For me at first it was a warm flush feeling as it moved. Now it has many different expressions depending on my intention.
@@65Swede I don't know how it could be a substance though because you can't extract it with a syringe like blood and analyze it.
@@julianroninbb Someday they will have a machine that can detect and measure it. It took centuries to find ways to ways to discover all the different sound and light frequencies. The chinese and others have been writings about their experiences for millennia. It is the whole basis for Chinese medicine.
I read the Tai Chi classic book and trained until the feeling just came up from the ground out to my hand while I was doing slow ITF Taekwondo forms. I hadn’t even learned tai chi yet. Anybody can do it. It just takes years.
老师，比如还在这里，请过来一起做功夫我的家和功夫地方。 快乐游！我住在不远从Fremont Street, 和可以开车。英文我的第一文。 😎
In what way does the body change? What's the goal, if you will?
It changes so that you can do Bagua :) this makes the body able to mobilise as it should according to the style. This is the nature of Chinese systems, they should be performed with the right conditions present in the body. If you are asking deeper, as to why somebody should even do Bagua, then that is personal choice and interest mostly :)
@LotusNeiGong makes sense. I guess my mind always tries to find some desirable payoff. Neigong, for example, and taichi to some extent, seems to have "benefits" in life that go beyond the art itself.
For better or worse, turns out I belong in the group of people you've mentioned that seek the art to enhance their life/path 😅
Still, the way the body moves in Bagua is fascinating. The shape itself is very pleasing and the mechanics, from the little I know, make more intuitive sense than taichi's (for me at least).
Some things should just be done for the sake of the love of doing 😁😁😁
@@LotusNeiGong I know! Alas, I'm young and immature haha
Well, I’m just immature 😂
What are the benefits of this in the body
When done correctly, the pre-heaven (neijia Quan) the effects of the deep diaphragmic/belly breathing are the same as in taiji Quan, and/or Xing-Yi Quan; the difference being circle walking and movements inside said circle as opposed to linear or more free movement for Xing-Yi and Taiji, respectively.
Like the aforementioned internal styles, Baguazhang is great for stability and balance, but differs as it adds a unique ankle, Achilles tendon, and foot strengthening exercise, in how it incorporates its circle walk; especially in style such as the wrestling style of Cheng Bagua, and the hybrid Gao bagua.
Another stand out is the “walking with your hips and core extended, as opposed to waking with your rear out to gain more depth. Like taiji, pre-heaven bagua focuses on relaxed, slow to moderate moment, with a heavy focus of glide stepping, mud walking, or chicken stepping; which ever practice suits you best.
Bagua (Cheng and Gao) is my preferred flavor of the style, and its external and internal benefits are just as good as Xing-Yi and Taiji.
@@Blodyqueef what an extensive explanation
Nothing “basic” about this video. Basic body method is about alignment and body posture. All this video says is basically that if you don’t have already developed qi you can’t do Bagua. Because understanding the qi is the basics. Weird indeed.
It is ‘basic’ for Bagua. This is a part of why the style is so difficult. Other systems may begin with things like posture and alignment but Baguazhang assumes you already have this. Qi is the start point for Bagua. This is why it was not seen as an art that you start with.
Nothing weird about that 😂
@@LotusNeiGong I studied Bagua for over 15 years and I’ve studied 3 different Bagua styles, all of them have very different approaches to body method and beginners practice. What you are talking about is definitely NOT standard beginners practice in any of them. Generalizing all Bagua into one style and method is also completely wrong.
@@LotusNeiGong I am not arguing about the content of what you teach here, it’s fine. But I object to teaching this to beginners or as “basic” method.
You can object all you wish. My view is different to yours and, to me, this is where Bagua begins, anything less is not really Bagua, no matter how many years you do it 🤷🏼♂️
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