I can't believe these aren't in wider use. My family has had one for 30 years now. Yes, it's had and has its issues, but overall it works great. We have a similar setup but use a foot valve with a tuned spring instead of whatever that little thing is he has. If it works it works, that's great. I actually rigged up a small wheel that catches the water coming out of the foot valve, it spins it and powers a small led flashlight that allows me to look out and see if the ram is running. No light, ram is off. Good for days when it's cold but on the edge of needing to shut it down. Also, our setup pumps to tanks well above our house, and we have great gravity pressure. When the tanks are full, the overflow travels down a small tube to a nice water feature we built in the backyard.
Having built multiple ram pumps myself I can tell you neither the pool loodle nor the intertube is necessary or even beneficial to this system. Increase the diameter of your inlet pipe in order to increase the pressure in the pressure vessel.
You still need a buffer between the air and water. Over time the water will absorb the air. Water that cannot circulate through the system will develop bacteria growth. This is the same reason why water hammer arrestor these days use a rubber separator between the water and the air chamber. The old style of DIY water hammer arrestor would eventually absorb all the air and stop the water hammer arrestor function and just become stagnant water that doesn't do anything useful.
When this started up I thought you were going to show how to make a Fleshlight for big guys like myself out of basic household materials lying around! 😂😂
So I had a break in my line. I run 3/4 of a mile up a 700’ incline into 2 1600 gallon cisterns. I had to find a break in the buried section (no map or tracer wire) that goes through a bit of rough terrain. I figured out that the volume I could drain from the break in the pipe to my bib would tell me where to look for the break. Basically, I had to translate feet to gallons.. As long as I could figure out where the pipe laid, I could cross reference and fix my break. I also found out I was pretty good at dowsing. What a myriad of lessons...I know my pipes. Well, most of them. Life’s a bitch then ya die.
Oh yeah, I run some gates and some ball valves. Depends which section you’re referring to. The key is to have a one way check valve so all of my water doesn’t run back into the well (aquifer) my exposed pipe doesn’t freeze because that section drains back. The buried pipe has the one way check valve right before it goes underground and retains water with a few bibs installed in strategic places to isolate needed repairs. Buried pipe has very little maintenance. But I don’t have to strain my pump to shove all the water all the way from the get go - it slams it at the check valve. I have semi easy access to the check valve - about a 20 minute climb. I’ve put 2. I’m running roughly about 230 psi.
Bud, get rid of that gate valve. Those things are know for failing. Always go with ball valves. Also If you have an emergency ball valves are quicker. Good luck!
@@I_Ken_Do_Thata check valve is not a “gate” valve. And there is most definitely what’s called a ball check valve. It is not a traditional ball valve that can be operated either opened or closed using a stem, but a check valve that uses a ball and gravity or pressure to seat and stop back flow. There’s many different types of check valves… swing check, clapper check, lift check, wafer check, spring check, butterfly check, stop check, or a piston/plug check… but none of them are in any way a “gate” valve.
@@I_Ken_Do_Thatalso I know you a speaking about the gate valve being used as a shut off valve, but you grouped check valves/gate valves together. A check valve is a back flow preventing valve, like a diode. And gate/ball valves are a service/shut down valve, like a switch.
@@SecretaryBootyyJuice bro, I didn't confuse anything. I'm certified in purification and distribution. I used to work for the water department. I believe you are misunderstanding me. No worries though.
I been searching around trying to learn how to size my water ram pump for what I'm gonna use it for. Basically move as much water as possible without building an industrial sized unit. Can I use a garden hose as the drive line going into the pump? And a garden hose on the exit side of the pump?
@@johnwyman6126 Very interesting! I will keep this in mind in the spring. Totally makes sense, the line going in needs to be metal or something that can effectively transfer the pressure. 👍🙏🇺🇸
@@Rizik1986 I'm not talking about the pressure, I'm talking about the the pulse, or the shock wave that travels back up the pipe every time the impetus valve closes. It works off of repeated water hammer. Have you ever been in a house where every time you shut off the water quickly you could hear a loud bang when the whole pipe rattled? That's it, it's the same thing. There's a UA-cam channel called Land to House that explains a lot of this and shows you how to build one yourself, or, if you want, you could buy one from Seth. He shows experiments with many different sizes, I think all the way down to 3/8 of an inch.
I made a ram pump back in 2000 to make the creek run water 400 feet up to run a water slide down my mountain i always used a intertube dont know how u made it work with a noodle we would change the pump pressure based on using and not using throughout the year the weather change also needs more or less
In case the air bubble trapped inside the "driving pipe " is lost ie... becomes water logged. The air bubble is a spring of sorts. Older systems has a tiny hole drilled at the inlet that sicked a bubble of air every cycle. New ppl put a schrader air valve on top to allow adding air when lost.
@@ACnumerouno Or 1 bar per 10 meter if you have joined the 20th century... Cheers from the 21:st century where we used sane measures since the 18th century.
I made ours for under $20 the good old days some jerk hunter came up and drove his 4wheeler on my property and broke the pipes that have been there for 24 years we found this new year thanks to a realtor putting a sign near my hidden driveway im so pissed but the cost of pipes is crazy now
thing about noodles, they are so universal, did you know that if your automobile struts die you can jack up the vehicle and squish the noodle in-between the coil spring and let the car down and bam you've got new struts, or at least until they run out of oil and seize, but this will buy you time while you get new ones❤
@@doggopotato8452 all good bro. Everybody’s an armchair health expert when it comes to building materials these days.. I just think that folks have been reading too many books, instead of getting their hands dirty, doing the work.. 🤝🛠
Ram pumps are bull. You cannot take water higher than the original location without some sort of power. Why do you think there are hydroelectric dams? You can argue your case, but you better put the right equation, or provide some math. It’s BS
You just don’t understand the concept some people have been using them all their lives to pump water up hills on their farms. Study the concept it works. Your not pumping 100% of the water being used to create the pressure up the hill. Even electric pumps will only pump water so high, The smaller the pipe the higher the water will go due to the weight of the water. That is why you pump it above the house to a storage tank to create a higher pressure for an extended period of time as needed. If a water wheel can turn a 500 Lb stone to ground corn into flour how high do you think it would pump water if you used it to work a 3”diameter by X36” long pressure pump
I can't believe these aren't in wider use. My family has had one for 30 years now. Yes, it's had and has its issues, but overall it works great. We have a similar setup but use a foot valve with a tuned spring instead of whatever that little thing is he has. If it works it works, that's great.
I actually rigged up a small wheel that catches the water coming out of the foot valve, it spins it and powers a small led flashlight that allows me to look out and see if the ram is running. No light, ram is off.
Good for days when it's cold but on the edge of needing to shut it down.
Also, our setup pumps to tanks well above our house, and we have great gravity pressure. When the tanks are full, the overflow travels down a small tube to a nice water feature we built in the backyard.
Very smart system you got there
Cool 😎
Yooo, that sounds awesome. Worth a UA-cam video! I wanna see!
The valve he uses is called a check valve
@@jakewalker4392 well yes, but it looks slightly unusual to me. Most check valves are in line and this one seems to be a T of some sort?
Having built multiple ram pumps myself I can tell you neither the pool loodle nor the intertube is necessary or even beneficial to this system. Increase the diameter of your inlet pipe in order to increase the pressure in the pressure vessel.
Inlet pipe? The one that goes into the pressure tank ?😊
First time i heard of these was on Homestead Rescue. Loved watching that show.
These pumps blow my mind every time I see one.
These should be longer videos, love this stuff
Oh…. I miss her so much
Just add an air valve to the top of the chamber and add more air. No need for fillers.
You still need a buffer between the air and water. Over time the water will absorb the air. Water that cannot circulate through the system will develop bacteria growth. This is the same reason why water hammer arrestor these days use a rubber separator between the water and the air chamber. The old style of DIY water hammer arrestor would eventually absorb all the air and stop the water hammer arrestor function and just become stagnant water that doesn't do anything useful.
Would a water heater expansion tank work for this? They run about 40 bucks.
It would. It's just a tiny bladder tank.
Yum wheelbarrows inner tube flavour!
Really interesting thank you!
That's basically the same principle as an accumulator bottle 🍼 on an HPU skid used in drilling preasure control BOP's.
That's so cool!
When this started up I thought you were going to show how to make a Fleshlight for big guys like myself out of basic household materials lying around! 😂😂
Can you just use an expansion tank in place of the tube?
just use an expansion tank. its exactly what you have crudley manufactured
Best bladder ever 💖❤️
So I had a break in my line. I run 3/4 of a mile up a 700’ incline into 2 1600 gallon cisterns. I had to find a break in the buried section (no map or tracer wire) that goes through a bit of rough terrain. I figured out that the volume I could drain from the break in the pipe to my bib would tell me where to look for the break. Basically, I had to translate feet to gallons.. As long as I could figure out where the pipe laid, I could cross reference and fix my break. I also found out I was pretty good at dowsing. What a myriad of lessons...I know my pipes. Well, most of them. Life’s a bitch then ya die.
Oh yeah, I run some gates and some ball valves. Depends which section you’re referring to. The key is to have a one way check valve so all of my water doesn’t run back into the well (aquifer) my exposed pipe doesn’t freeze because that section drains back. The buried pipe has the one way check valve right before it goes underground and retains water with a few bibs installed in strategic places to isolate needed repairs. Buried pipe has very little maintenance. But I don’t have to strain my pump to shove all the water all the way from the get go - it slams it at the check valve. I have semi easy access to the check valve - about a 20 minute climb. I’ve put 2. I’m running roughly about 230 psi.
Lost me at dowsing…
I could get my Davincy pump to pump up almost 600 ft in elivation. Pretty handy.
Show the pump pumping water...😂😂😂😂😂
You had a UNION ... right there....
Why unscrew it from the tee??????
Bud, get rid of that gate valve. Those things are know for failing. Always go with ball valves. Also If you have an emergency ball valves are quicker. Good luck!
Are you talking about ball check valves? If so, where can you find them? I've been trying to find some.
@@johnwyman6126 good luck. Lol That's two different systems you have check valves(gate), or ball valves.
@@I_Ken_Do_Thata check valve is not a “gate” valve. And there is most definitely what’s called a ball check valve. It is not a traditional ball valve that can be operated either opened or closed using a stem, but a check valve that uses a ball and gravity or pressure to seat and stop back flow. There’s many different types of check valves… swing check, clapper check, lift check, wafer check, spring check, butterfly check, stop check, or a piston/plug check… but none of them are in any way a “gate” valve.
@@I_Ken_Do_Thatalso I know you a speaking about the gate valve being used as a shut off valve, but you grouped check valves/gate valves together. A check valve is a back flow preventing valve, like a diode. And gate/ball valves are a service/shut down valve, like a switch.
@@SecretaryBootyyJuice bro, I didn't confuse anything. I'm certified in purification and distribution. I used to work for the water department. I believe you are misunderstanding me. No worries though.
😮😮
I been searching around trying to learn how to size my water ram pump for what I'm gonna use it for. Basically move as much water as possible without building an industrial sized unit.
Can I use a garden hose as the drive line going into the pump? And a garden hose on the exit side of the pump?
Out, yes. In, no because it's too flexible and won't transfer the pressure pulse all the way back. The best would be metal, but I have seen PVC work.
@@johnwyman6126 Very interesting! I will keep this in mind in the spring. Totally makes sense, the line going in needs to be metal or something that can effectively transfer the pressure. 👍🙏🇺🇸
@@Rizik1986 I'm not talking about the pressure, I'm talking about the the pulse, or the shock wave that travels back up the pipe every time the impetus valve closes. It works off of repeated water hammer. Have you ever been in a house where every time you shut off the water quickly you could hear a loud bang when the whole pipe rattled? That's it, it's the same thing.
There's a UA-cam channel called Land to House that explains a lot of this and shows you how to build one yourself, or, if you want, you could buy one from Seth. He shows experiments with many different sizes, I think all the way down to 3/8 of an inch.
@@johnwyman6126 Ahh, thank you for the clarification. I will search around and learn more. 👍🙏🇺🇸
Wheel BARROW.
It is NOT a Wheel Barrel..🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️
I have a hydraulic ram pump I've never used for sale. It is a no non sense type...made by Rife Ram Co. It is 2" inlet & 1" out. Best offer.
Does it work?
When I looked down the tube I knew what he really intended to use that for
Try using a airbag from Simi truck seat may be small enough to fit in and may help give you a little more pressure
I made a ram pump back in 2000 to make the creek run water 400 feet up to run a water slide down my mountain i always used a intertube dont know how u made it work with a noodle we would change the pump pressure based on using and not using throughout the year the weather change also needs more or less
Use an expansion Vessel potable
Why a gate valve instead of ball valve?
I dont have a water source with enoughdrop to have good head pressure but if i did, id be using one for my pond
Some type of small soccer ball would work
PUT AIR IN THE TUBE AS A PNEUMATIC SPRING
Wait.. can't you just run this in a loop and generate power, or am I missing something from this. Very curious, please, someone educate me.
Rubber won't compress, it will only distort.....
In the marine industry we call this am acumulater .⚓
A clacker
Uma whamawhater? 😂😂😂
I’ve looked for clear pressure tanks.
Where did you get yours?
We ended up using a small pressure tank for a well.
He made it from expensive clear pvc. Just like Seth did at Land to House.
Can you explain what function the pool noodle had? And what the inner tube is doing exactly? Looks very clever, but I'm not that clever, yet.
In case the air bubble trapped inside the "driving pipe " is lost ie... becomes water logged. The air bubble is a spring of sorts. Older systems has a tiny hole drilled at the inlet that sicked a bubble of air every cycle. New ppl put a schrader air valve on top to allow adding air when lost.
Will it keep going uphill at the 35psi, how far?
2.34’ vertical per psi
@@ACnumerouno Or 1 bar per 10 meter if you have joined the 20th century... Cheers from the 21:st century where we used sane measures since the 18th century.
@@calysagora3615welcome to America, where we have been happy with the units we use for hundreds of years and see no reason to change them! Lol
I made ours for under $20 the good old days some jerk hunter came up and drove his 4wheeler on my property and broke the pipes that have been there for 24 years we found this new year thanks to a realtor putting a sign near my hidden driveway im so pissed but the cost of pipes is crazy now
It’s barrow. Wheelbarrow. Not wheel barrel. Just saying.
I love this but how do you keep it from freezing
You don't!
Expand the noodle🎉😂
What's wrong with only using air in your air vessel?
I don't think he has a sniffer valve.
Or you can get a pressure sensor lol
Why not just get a water heater expansion tank....
A wheel barrel?
did water saturate the pool noodle ? and now the innertube like a bladder tank ?
dang went to look for the longs ..but no long's
I doubt the chemicals used to create or release that tube from its mold are good for you.
What do you know about that. I am considering a different project but an inner tube valve would be perfect.
Try a expension tank
Everybody Loves Raymond
Yeah-but 35psi will get you only ~70-ft uphill --what then?
Dudes gotta be joking
Why does the swing check value shoot water everywhere? Is there a way to contain it so you don’t lose it?
No, it has to escape. These things run on repeated water hammer.
Heavy duty wheelbarrow inner tube. What a joke!
What’s the intent/purpose/context of this device??
To pump water to a higher elevation without the use of external power. It wastes water velocity and volume in exchange for pressure.
thing about noodles, they are so universal, did you know that if your automobile struts die you can jack up the vehicle and squish the noodle in-between the coil spring and let the car down and bam you've got new struts, or at least until they run out of oil and seize, but this will buy you time while you get new ones❤
Uhhhh yeah, NO!
What this guy did was absolutely pointless
What on earth did I just watch?
What black magic is this?!?
Will never work ! 😢
I don't get it
I ha e no clue what is going on here
Looks like you're copying Seth at Land to House on UA-cam. He did all these same experiments years ago.
Why not just use a blatter tank??
Dude. Your poisoning yourself with the stuff your using!!!! Brass is good but don't use stuff that isn't designed for drinking water!!!!!
Good thing we’re only responsible for our own bodies huh? You do you. I’m doing great. 🤝🛠
using rubber and brass...poisoning himself?? what nonsense are you on about...meanwhile your city pipes are 90years old with lead fittings lol
Goofy response
Should we tell them about all the effects from the systems in our cities designed for drinking water that the gov paid to be installed? Lol
@@doggopotato8452 all good bro. Everybody’s an armchair health expert when it comes to building materials these days.. I just think that folks have been reading too many books, instead of getting their hands dirty, doing the work.. 🤝🛠
I'm sorry, бuт шнат тне неll тнis?
Ram pumps are bull. You cannot take water higher than the original location without some sort of power. Why do you think there are hydroelectric dams?
You can argue your case, but you better put the right equation, or provide some math.
It’s BS
You just don’t understand the concept some people have been using them all their lives to pump water up hills on their farms. Study the concept it works. Your not pumping 100% of the water being used to create the pressure up the hill. Even electric pumps will only pump water so high, The smaller the pipe the higher the water will go due to the weight of the water. That is why you pump it above the house to a storage tank to create a higher pressure for an extended period of time as needed.
If a water wheel can turn a 500 Lb stone to ground corn into flour how high do you think it would pump water if you used it to work a 3”diameter by X36” long pressure pump
You are so wrong
Make it make sense