A note about clumps when turning: If you go left when turning around, it’ll keep the grass under the deck and mulch it up. If you turn right, the clockwise rotation of the blade makes it kick out of the left side of the mower in large pieces.
My friend was a whistleblower who worked for DARPA on the HAARP Project during the 90's. All weather & geo disasters are planned & engineered. Cliemate change is a sham. They are deliberately destroying homes & crops per NWO depopulation agenda. They engineer hurricanes, tornadoes, lightning storms, large hail, drought, wildfires, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes & tsunamis. Coralyn was car accidented in Dec of 2019 because she wouldn't remain silent. The Illuminati control this world until Armageddon. All politicians work for the Illuminati. UFO's are built here on plan-ET earth. They have cross hybridized humans with animals to masquerade as Martians. They have created any Monster Hollywood has shown us including Dinosaurs that actually never existed millions of years ago. I guarantee man made Megalodons will enter the world stage within the next 6 years. Woe to earth & sea !!!
Wow, look at the lushest green grass. Oh how I miss my precious green grass and dream of green lush grass. Just trying to get through the, you know, long dark winter!! I can't wait for the spring grass green up. It will be time for another video of you cutting with that sweet machine.
Awesome. I think you’ll be happy with it. The model that I have (21385) is no longer available (on Toros website anyway.) You probably could find some held over online maybe. The website does still list the 21382, which is essentially the same model I have but with a Honda engine. It doesn’t appear that they make them with a Toro brand engine anymore. All the new versions with the vortex air intake system have Briggs & Stratton engines on them. The new vortex design looks very cool, it would just be a matter of if you got a good Briggs or not.
@@kevinjames5116 I decided to give it a stress test last night actually. I have been getting dumped on for the last 2 weeks and another week of water coming.. my lawn was gross. threw the preformance blade on.. and it did a flawless job both bagging and mulching (i bag my front yard and mulch the rear) I live on 1/ acre lot and it did the whole job with 1 bar on the battery remaining. I recently sold my Toro commercial 21inch #22197 and switched to this.. very very happy
Yeah I talked to my dealer and he said he ordered a bunch last fall so he had them for this year. That’s how I got it. I just don’t know why toro continues to list this model on their website if it’s discontinued.
@@kevinjames5116 well I think the aerator and maybe a dethatcher attachment. However I have heard somewhere that the power broom could be used for for dethaching and brush snow, so maybe the power broom. I could use that for snow on my personal driveway.
The Toro engines are made by Loncin Corporation. It is a large company based in Chongqing, China. I have not heard much negative or outstanding about the engines' performance and reliability. The main issue has been parts, which is typical of Chinese producers. They change suppliers at will, with the supplier performing the design work, resulting in an unmanageable matrix of parts. This may be why Toro didn't stick with them. Toro has traditionally designed and manufactured engines, but haven't made these small engines in a long time.
Yeah the interesting thing is the salesman actually said that this toro branded engine would be easier to get parts for. But as you said looking at the toro website they don’t make a super recycler with a toro branded engine anymore. They are all Briggs or they have the older model like mine with the Honda. I do like the looks of the new one with the vortex system and like the new wheels.
@@kevinjames5116 My dilemma is the person I am buying for needs electric start, and it needs to be simple. Toro - No electric start with SpinStop, and it doesn't have an alternator which means she would have to be near a plug, not a shed, to plug it in to recharge. You have to start it every time you pick up a stick or empty the bag. The only one with a good combination is the 30" Timemaster, which is a 150 lb. monster. Honda - Electric start and blade stop are available as a combination, but then you are stuck with their hydrostatic drive system with a throttle, fixed speed settings, and two bails to hold down, and when you engage the bail it is jump and go or stop, like a cheap mower, except it uses an expensive and inefficient hydraulic motor and pump propulsion system, which is ridiculous. It also has a plastic deck rather than aluminum like the Toro. Motors - The Honda and a good Briggs are equals and parts are more available and cheaper for the Briggs. Fortunately Honda quit putting OHCs on their mowers, so it isn't as bad as it used to be.
@@jackt6112 yes my father-in-law just bought that expensive Honda 217 with the spin stop and the two different bales in the fixed speed control. I looked at it. I’m not sure he’s going to like that speed control where it is. Looks to me like it would be very inconvenient.
@@kevinjames5116 Exactly! The first question the Honda dealer should ask people is, "Is your car and automatic or a stick?" The second question should be, "Do prefer a mower that adjust to your pace and conditions or one with fixed speeds that dictates a constant pace independent of where you are mowing?" The drive system on them might be complex and reliable but it is technology not well suited to the purpose.
Hi Kevin. Very awesome mower. (Have an old '84 Honda, in need of replacement). Thank you for making & posting this video. Kevin, kindly, ¿is this mower easy to pull/roll backwards when drive not engaged, please? Glad you don't spray so much. {As an aside, Bloomington, that's the location of the Breaking Away movie. Nice area, neat movie. Sorry for the digression :-) . God[Bible] Bless all your home}.
Thank you Tony. I’m close to Bloomington IL not Indiana. Anyway yes the mower is easy to roll backwards after you have let off the personal pace handle. The personal pace system is very nice and very intuitive. I find it a joy to walk behind. I had read somewhere there were some people having a hard time pulling it backwards and toro told them to just push it forward to release the drive then pull back, however I haven’t had any trouble with that.
@@kevinjames5116 Thank you Kevin for the kindness of a reply and with the answer to my question. Very nice mower & glad it's easy to roll backwards. (Have some obstacles [trees & shrubbery at our place). Please keep safe. God[Bible] Bless. tonyd\.
Yes that is what my salesman said about the Toro branded engine being good, and online research backs that up. He actually recommended the Toro engine over the Honda. I have read bad things about the Briggs engines sputtering a lot.
Yes the plug stays in when mulching. It has a tab that you rotate to lock it in and to remove it. Dead grass does build up in the plug. It doesn’t hurt performance but I usually take the plug out and clear out the grass once a month.
@@mikewright9547 cool. I exclusively mulch with it. I have never used the bagger or side discharged. It does such a good job chopping stuff up fine I have never needed to do anything but mulch and I like mulching because it’s much faster and easier.
@@mikewright9547 great! Yes I don’t bag ever. Even in the spring. That’s the point of the super recycler is that you’re putting the clippings back into your soil to give it nutrients. Some people bag because if they don’t their mower leaves clippings everywhere but with this mower you don’t have to.
I love my Toro recycler. Always does a good job for a 35 year old mower.
A note about clumps when turning: If you go left when turning around, it’ll keep the grass under the deck and mulch it up. If you turn right, the clockwise rotation of the blade makes it kick out of the left side of the mower in large pieces.
Thanks. That makes sense. Had never thought of it like that.
Good advice. Makes sense I hadn't thought of that either
My friend was a whistleblower who worked for DARPA on the HAARP Project during the 90's. All weather & geo disasters are planned & engineered. Cliemate change is a sham. They are deliberately destroying homes & crops per NWO depopulation agenda. They engineer hurricanes, tornadoes, lightning storms, large hail, drought, wildfires, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes & tsunamis. Coralyn was car accidented in Dec of 2019 because she wouldn't remain silent. The Illuminati control this world until Armageddon. All politicians work for the Illuminati. UFO's are built here on plan-ET earth. They have cross hybridized humans with animals to masquerade as Martians. They have created any Monster Hollywood has shown us including Dinosaurs that actually never existed millions of years ago. I guarantee man made Megalodons will enter the world stage within the next 6 years. Woe to earth & sea !!!
Wow, look at the lushest green grass. Oh how I miss my precious green grass and dream of green lush grass. Just trying to get through the, you know, long dark winter!! I can't wait for the spring grass green up. It will be time for another video of you cutting with that sweet machine.
We are getting close to lush grass cutting time with our Toros!!
Kevin thanks for your review. Been going back and forth between Toro super recycler and Honda. I’ve made up my mind. Toro it is
Awesome. I think you’ll be happy with it. The model that I have (21385) is no longer available (on Toros website anyway.) You probably could find some held over online maybe. The website does still list the 21382, which is essentially the same model I have but with a Honda engine. It doesn’t appear that they make them with a Toro brand engine anymore. All the new versions with the vortex air intake system have Briggs & Stratton engines on them. The new vortex design looks very cool, it would just be a matter of if you got a good Briggs or not.
I have this same mower but I bought the 60V version.. great video!
Thank you! How do you like the 60V for power? How’s the run time? I’m curious about that.
@@kevinjames5116 I decided to give it a stress test last night actually. I have been getting dumped on for the last 2 weeks and another week of water coming.. my lawn was gross. threw the preformance blade on.. and it did a flawless job both bagging and mulching (i bag my front yard and mulch the rear) I live on 1/ acre lot and it did the whole job with 1 bar on the battery remaining. I recently sold my Toro commercial 21inch #22197 and switched to this.. very very happy
The Toro engines are 2020 models and were discontinued late in the year. However, some were left over for the 2021 season. I managed to grab one.
Yeah I talked to my dealer and he said he ordered a bunch last fall so he had them for this year. That’s how I got it. I just don’t know why toro continues to list this model on their website if it’s discontinued.
Nice mower
I've got this same model I really like it.
Awesome!! I do too. Been very happy with it.
You lost some weight since your last film ...good for you
Lolol
Looks like it left a very nice cut. Yeah I am really contemplating that toro. I think I would get the multiforce
Awesome. What attachments would you be most interested in for the multi force? Besides the awesome turbo force deck!!
@@kevinjames5116 well I think the aerator and maybe a dethatcher attachment. However I have heard somewhere that the power broom could be used for for dethaching and brush snow, so maybe the power broom. I could use that for snow on my personal driveway.
The Toro engines are made by Loncin Corporation. It is a large company based in Chongqing, China. I have not heard much negative or outstanding about the engines' performance and reliability. The main issue has been parts, which is typical of Chinese producers. They change suppliers at will, with the supplier performing the design work, resulting in an unmanageable matrix of parts. This may be why Toro didn't stick with them. Toro has traditionally designed and manufactured engines, but haven't made these small engines in a long time.
Yeah the interesting thing is the salesman actually said that this toro branded engine would be easier to get parts for. But as you said looking at the toro website they don’t make a super recycler with a toro branded engine anymore. They are all Briggs or they have the older model like mine with the Honda. I do like the looks of the new one with the vortex system and like the new wheels.
@@kevinjames5116 My dilemma is the person I am buying for needs electric start, and it needs to be simple.
Toro - No electric start with SpinStop, and it doesn't have an alternator which means she would have to be near a plug, not a shed, to plug it in to recharge. You have to start it every time you pick up a stick or empty the bag. The only one with a good combination is the 30" Timemaster, which is a 150 lb. monster.
Honda - Electric start and blade stop are available as a combination, but then you are stuck with their hydrostatic drive system with a throttle, fixed speed settings, and two bails to hold down, and when you engage the bail it is jump and go or stop, like a cheap mower, except it uses an expensive and inefficient hydraulic motor and pump propulsion system, which is ridiculous. It also has a plastic deck rather than aluminum like the Toro.
Motors - The Honda and a good Briggs are equals and parts are more available and cheaper for the Briggs. Fortunately Honda quit putting OHCs on their mowers, so it isn't as bad as it used to be.
@@jackt6112 yes my father-in-law just bought that expensive Honda 217 with the spin stop and the two different bales in the fixed speed control. I looked at it. I’m not sure he’s going to like that speed control where it is. Looks to me like it would be very inconvenient.
@@kevinjames5116 Exactly! The first question the Honda dealer should ask people is, "Is your car and automatic or a stick?" The second question should be, "Do prefer a mower that adjust to your pace and conditions or one with fixed speeds that dictates a constant pace independent of where you are mowing?" The drive system on them might be complex and reliable but it is technology not well suited to the purpose.
Hi Kevin. Very awesome mower. (Have an old '84 Honda, in need of replacement). Thank you for making & posting this video. Kevin, kindly, ¿is this mower easy to pull/roll backwards when drive not engaged, please? Glad you don't spray so much. {As an aside, Bloomington, that's the location of the Breaking Away movie. Nice area, neat movie. Sorry for the digression :-) . God[Bible] Bless all your home}.
Thank you Tony. I’m close to Bloomington IL not Indiana. Anyway yes the mower is easy to roll backwards after you have let off the personal pace handle. The personal pace system is very nice and very intuitive. I find it a joy to walk behind. I had read somewhere there were some people having a hard time pulling it backwards and toro told them to just push it forward to release the drive then pull back, however I haven’t had any trouble with that.
@@kevinjames5116 Thank you Kevin for the kindness of a reply and with the answer to my question. Very nice mower & glad it's easy to roll backwards. (Have some obstacles [trees & shrubbery at our place). Please keep safe. God[Bible] Bless. tonyd\.
That toro engine is good. Most have the Briggs and those are terrible.
Yes that is what my salesman said about the Toro branded engine being good, and online research backs that up. He actually recommended the Toro engine over the Honda. I have read bad things about the Briggs engines sputtering a lot.
What was that model number again? ?????????????????????????????????????
21385
Do you happen to get a wheel squeak when backing up?
No I’ve never had that.
There is a part that comes out of where it rear bags. Does that stay in when mulching?
Yes the plug stays in when mulching. It has a tab that you rotate to lock it in and to remove it. Dead grass does build up in the plug. It doesn’t hurt performance but I usually take the plug out and clear out the grass once a month.
@@kevinjames5116 Awesome thanks for the reply. I have that mower but have never used the mulch feature yet.
@@mikewright9547 cool. I exclusively mulch with it. I have never used the bagger or side discharged. It does such a good job chopping stuff up fine I have never needed to do anything but mulch and I like mulching because it’s much faster and easier.
@@kevinjames5116 I mulched today and your right, way easier and cleaner than bagging. That mulched really works well.
@@mikewright9547 great! Yes I don’t bag ever. Even in the spring. That’s the point of the super recycler is that you’re putting the clippings back into your soil to give it nutrients. Some people bag because if they don’t their mower leaves clippings everywhere but with this mower you don’t have to.