@@RARF29 the 7900xtx has 96 ray accelerators. I don’t know why people ~who know they don’t know anything about AMD cards~ feel the need to comment anyways. Ignorant.
It's just so bad at heavy ray tracing and path tracing though. Even a 16GB 4060 Ti can beat the 7900 XTX in path tracing. Pure rasterization is becoming a thing of the past so I wouldn't recommend anyone that is in the market to buy a new GPU in 2025 to get a 7900 XT/XTX. I think the 9070XT will fair better moving forward than the 7900 XTX overall. Despite maybe being a little slower in rasterization, it'll most likely have much better ray tracing and the new FSR4 will be exclusive to it.
@@03chrisv this is not true. The only cards better at ray tracing are the 4080/5080 and 4090/5090. That doesn’t make it “bad” at ray and path tracing, that makes it better than 90% of gpus. This is a great example of why nvidia fanboys repeat this lie. They own 4060s, one of the worst cards ever put out that absolutely can’t come close to the 7900xtx in RT/PT, and believe its better! Completely suckered by brand advertising. Cultists coping and seething.
@RiderOfKarma PATH tracing. Compare Cyberpunk in path tracing on a 7900 XTX vs a 4060 Ti. Do the same for other path traced games like Portal RTX, Minecraft RTX, etc. Do you know the difference between ray tracing and path tracing? Any 4070 class beats the 7900 XTX in pure path tracing, and the 16GB 4060 Ti either beats it or matches it. I'm not talking about games like Resident Evil 4 with light ray tracing.
Only becuase everyone is after a 40 series and they are over priced. So I agree in that regard. If you have a 40 series your card got better but amd did nothing for the 7000 series. 40 series went to a whole different level image quality wise..you can't compare a amd card to nvidia right now.. unless it's a 9070xt.
I'm using a 7900xt and man, I have no complaints whatsoever. Guess what? I play all the games I want and they play great. It's cheaper than all of its competition..
People who use their brain care more about performance than about graphics. And the truth is: too many games come unoptimized that suck at performance both on consoles and low - mid tier PCs.
People stress out for the weirdest things. Gaming is suppose to be fun and stress reliever. I have been lucky enough to get the 90s card every generation. But I always go in it with the headspace that if I don’t get it, I still have a great system. Do I want the best, yes. But am I happy with what I got, absolutely. Don’t stress, it’s just gaming.
Nvidia and Cyberthrash 2077 have collaborated to convince and trick people into thinking that they need frame gen, raytracing, pathtracing, whatever new gimmick they can think of, to have fun in games. YOU DONT NEED ALL THAT BS TO HAVE FUN IN GAMES. CYBERTHRASH 2077 IS NOT THE ONLY GAME PEOPLE PLAY, STOP BENCHMARKING THAT THRASH GAME FFS.
The 7900xtx performs like the 4080 in raster and 20 series in RT. The 9070 will have the same RT performance as the 3090ti The next gen cards and beyond will finally have enough performance to make RT an actual feature, not a gimmick like Physx
I have been gaming since 1979. I laugh at what people complain about when comparing GPU companies. I started playing games at 240P with 8 colors running about 8 fps. Back when I started purchasing dedicated GPU's, things were changing so fast that I would sometimes purchase 2 GPU's per year. Then it went down to 1 per generation, then 2 per every other generation, and now because of prices and a slow down in the graphical advancements in gaming, I am planning on extending my current GPU for at least 3 generations. I currently have a 6900xt. Sure it has some shortfalls with the very latest games, VR, and Ray tracing, but man, this card can perform, especially when combined with my 5800x3d CPU. And there are still a lot of games I haven't played yet that will play great on this card. I have yet to play red dead redemption 2, cyberpunk 2077, etc. I no longer purchase games right away. I usually wait about 3 years because then I can pick then up at those cd key sites from around $10. After years of getting ripped off by money hungry gaming companies, I have no problem purchasing games from this sites. My fist dedicated GPU was a ATI VGA Wonder, around 1989 if I remember. GPU's have come a long way.
I grew up playing PS2 and the graphics in some PS2 game still look good to me . I sincerely think that PS2 , gamecube and xbox generation really took 3D graphics to the next level .
I don't regret going from Nvidia to AMD gpus the 7900 xtx is such a goated GPU hopefully well get fsr4 if not then its ok if they can somehow improve fsr3.1 that would be nice aswell. but i dont think that i will upgrade to a 9070 xt maybe the next generation would be a better idea specially since i have the 7900xtx
I hope everyone buys amd or older nvidia cards and don't wait for nvidia to put out more 50 serious cards. These graphic card producers are really ruining PC gaming. It use to be fun but now they have made it a real pain in the ass and an extortion racket. The longer one waits for their dream card to come down in price is just a joke because the new cards are overpriced and scarce and then the scalpers want to charge you double for the card you were waiting to drop in price. The only ones making out here are the card producers and the scalpers. Just like all industries now, GREED is their god and the deciding factor in their lives. We live in the "fuck the consumer" age and bleed them until they are dry.
@@Frogboyx1gaming Makes me wonder if I really need to game. I want to game but in all actuality I don't need to. I hate being played by the powers that be.
AMD doesn't have to compete with Nvidia's top end. AMD just needs to under cut Nvidia on price to performance by a good amount. Too close in price & people will just buy Nvidia. I myself use an Asus Tuf 7900xtx & I am very happy with it. Plus gotta love that 24 gig of vram.
@@Audiosan79 That could be true, however now days Nvidia really doesn't give a crap if they sell gamer gpu's or not since most of their money now comes from selling to data centers & AI companies. So even if AMD under cut Nvidia by a good amount, I doubt Nvidia would even care & might just keep the same price on those cards.
@@GreenCrusher1968 But they do care about there marketshare. So they would not allow AMD to take over. A lot of there software development depends on them having that marketshare.
Alot of benchmarking and UA-cam content is really aimed at enthusiasts but try to appeal to the average gamer because that's where the views are at. When it's all said and done you can still get an amazing experience from 3 generations ago. Don't get caught up in always wanting what's new because you will never make an entry as the tech moves quicker than you can make a decision! Pick a budget, ignore the noise and have fun
This! I was broke as a kid. Played unreal tournament at a decent frame rate ment striping textures out. Editing ini’s and everything. If I was a kid now. I wouldn’t even be playing PC gaming. Its entry bar has went so high I’d have got priced out. I think most gamers are looking at 500$ price point cards. I don’t think they give a rats ass about what company is making the card. It’s the price to performance.
but to be fair man that is kinda true ,,and OLEDS have done that ,their prices have ruined everything ,,+but they are getting now better ,your high end 4k 144 hz monitor yesterday was high end ,,now is mid tier bc there is no OLDES under 1000 ,,,so your high end 4k monitor just became mid tier ,,and everything under that is basicaly budget
I have a Radeon 7900 XTX, and when it comes to traditional (rasterization) performance without ray tracing, you can max all settings in pretty much all games and play at 4K natively (even without upscaling), with a stable 60 to 120 FPS easily. Now... when it comes to ray tracing, it's still a strong card. With "standard" ray tracing like global illumination (RTGI), reflections, shadows, etc. you can ALSO play with 60 fps or higher in most games, and often at native 4k or now sometimes with a bit of upscaling (for example FSR 2 / 3 Quality mode at 4k so that's upscaling from 1440p to 4k) and it will run great with max settings. Upscaling from 1440p to 4k will still be a very sharp and pleasant image using FSR cause the starting resolution is high. There might be a bit of shimmer here or there on edges compared to DLSS, but it's 90% the same experience as DLSS. So don't listen to people saying FSR is "garbage" or something. Finally, when it comes to PATH tracing (aka full ray tracing) which is super heavy on GPUs, then yes AMD cards have more difficulty. Nevertheless, you can STILL use it and have an awesome experience / image with the right settings on the 7900 XTX. Alan Wake 2 is probably the worst game in terms of ray tracing performance on AMD GPUs when you turn on PATH TRACING... HOWEVER, I turned on "low" setting path traced lighting with "high" denoising quality, and "low" path traced reflections. I used upscaling with FSR 2.0 from 1440p to 4k and all other settings at MAX or almost MAX. I was able to play Alan Wake 2 at a smooth 40 FPS and it was a great experience on the 7900 XTX. I capped my FPS to 40 on my 120 Hz LG TV (for consistency), and it felt like a high end PlayStation Pro that can actually do PATH TRACING. And it worked basically perfectly. For some, 40 FPS is not enough and I get that. But in reality, it's much smoother than 30 FPS and is actually a good experience on 120 Hz displays (since it divides evenly into 120). "Low" path tracing in Alan Wake 2 is already the MAJORITY of the path tracing experience and is WAYYYYY above what consoles can do. So that gives you an idea of what the 7900 XTX can do if that's the WORST ray tracing game on AMD with the most DIFFICULT setting (i.e. path tracing). And it still runs as a fun and really good looking experience, if you choose the right settings. Therefore, most ray tracing games run even much better than that on the 7900 XTX or AMD GPUs in general. Long story short, the RX 7900 XTX allows you to play all games at high settings at 4k, including using some ray tracing. It's just not AS powerful as Nvidia cards at ray tracing, but still good. Here's the truth though: currently 99%+ of games in existence today still don't have ray tracing. So is having a bit less ray tracing performance (today) really that much of a sacrifice? In the future, there will be more and more ray traced games, but it'll be a while before that number is very significant compared to currently existing games.
Absolutely get u. Soon as u say AMD has good value u are out of touch or a AMD shilling. While u are just saying that most people don’t need features like RT or DLSS. All people I know don’t use there card for RT or do upscaling. There is no need for that extra price for them to pay. It’s probably better for them to buy AMD cards just cuz they have extra vram and gonna hold longer to the card. Like we see with the XTX that wins in the performance charts in a landslide against 4080super even. And even the 5080 struggles against the XTX in some games. We also see Spider-Man2 that the XTX competes against the 4080 in RT settings. If u look at the provided requirement list it says that for RT Veryhigh u need 4080 or 7900XTX. I would not say AMD is done if this gen don’t gets to the people but they would miss the biggest opportunity in years if not ever.
I have the Strix 4090 OC. I had the 7900xtx Pulse before I got the 4090. I have a Sim racing set up with an Odyssey HMD 1 headset and the PSVR2 headset. I got the same excellent performance with both cards. Only reason I let the 7900xtx go it was part of a trade for the 4090. I even had excellent VR racing performance with a 6800 Pulse.
Im using a AMD for over 3 years now (PowerColor Radeon RX 6700 XT Red Devil) and im Verry happy with it. In the past i have used only nvidia and really im not missing anything :-) I hope the 9070XT will have a good price because is time to upgrade :-)
*Thank you for standing up for what normal people think about AMD.* When the Radeon VII was out, it was a BEAST, but they said "oh my god it runs at 200 watts!! it's so power hungry!!" if you compare it directly against a 7900XTX, it's using right at half the power and getting half the framerate.. *so it was never that bad!* There's a benchmark video showing these two cards against each other. *Nvidia cards can pull 600 watts and they won't criticize the power usage.. Nvidia can offer only a 10% uplift over the previous gen, and they don't complain. When it's AMD, it could be half as bad, and "AMD is trash"* 🤦 I just upgraded my Ryzen 1700 & RX 580 to a Ryzen 5800X and a RX 6700 10GB.. I'm a 1080P gamer, and this upgrade was massive, and all on the same motherboard, ram, and PSU! I didn't buy an Intel ARC B570 or B580 because it has nothing like Radeon Settings and ReLive.. I enjoy AMD's software and driver stability. All the Nvidia options were just too overpriced for what they are, and they don't have Radeon settings and ReLive either lol.
Great video. Myself being a Gen-X'er ; I grew up with the Original Atari-2600 ( VCS ) _ start of the Video Game industry ; and gone up from there as the technologies got better. With the improvements each new generation of comsoles with the next generation of graphic capabilities made me that much more excited then what I had at the moment. Now with personal computers being in video games as well as the consoles ; has the expectations of the pc's capabilities made the console's capabilities overlooked because with the consoles ( can't ) be { Improved } with software adjusments like on the pc? The PC-games disrespect of console's and says that the PC is king of gaming - but with out the consoles that came before PC's were even a thing ; there's a high probablility that gaming on computers might not of been a thing at all. Can the Console and PC gamers maybe get along and Co-Exsit with each other so that the console gamers can enjoy the console and pc gamers can enjoy the pc. Why must their always be I'm better then you , when in reality it's just a matter or what the expectations are. Consider this _ how many ( PC ) owners play games that are very much like what older consoles were. Steam has a very large selection of this type of games.
10:02 . .So basically; AMD is way better to run potential games because of "FSR 3.8/FSR.3.1" - But , Nvidia still had issues with DLSS "The Performance is kind of laggy" than the full-resolution being sharpened (So I'm basically wondering; what the RTX 6090's would look like after RTX 5090 244+ FPS/70-90 FrameRate In-Game would look like in 4k) "People would basically buy 4k Monitors to get better experience until Playstation 6 Releases in 2 years"
Nvidia. Amd. AMD makes good cards. Nvidia is the dominate force because of the marketing, 5070 doing 4090 performance? I’m sure a lot of people were sold immediately, far from the case though. Only with upscale can it beat a 4090. That’s it. Don’t have a 7900xtx like the man in the video does but I do have a 6900xt and almost 4 years later it’s doing great still. No complaints running a 21:9 wide monitor. Love it.
AMD might be doing the biggest rug pull on Nvidia ever actually... hear me out here this might not happen but here is what AMD MIGHT be doing... (Doesn't mean they are) AMD saw the lackluster 5000 series performance and knew their would be stocking issue's from nvidia... So they delay the 9070XT from Jan to March to build up a ton of stock. Meanwhile the 9070XT is on par with a 4070TI super in RT and 4080 in Raster for $500 while Nvidia's new 5070 will release for $550 and have less performance than a 4070TI and they will be out of stock everywhere due to stock issue's in March. Then BAM AMD drops the 9070XT at $500 in march and having a huge stock built up. It will not only be cheaper and outperform the 5070 but also be in stock to buy everywhere with FSR 4 day 1. That would be the biggest rug pull AMD could do to Nvidia. Will that happen? Probably not but it could be what they're doing lol.
$500 for the 9070xt when they wanted to sell it for $900? Its not going to happen. That would undercut all their 7k series cards and drop their prices there. Also Muhvidia just called their 5060 a 5070 to f AMD over for their stupid naming adoption. Also, they literally delayed the launch which was supposed to be at the end of January to hopefully0 get scalper pricing. They are literally paying stores to HOLD them because they go rugged so they can launch them a higher price then people want/expect/hope for. They lost. Its already over.
@@cavemantero AMD aren't making 7000 series cards anymore and they've stated that they want to provide an excellent value solution like the RX480 was. I believe the 9070xt launch price will be around $450-$550, any higher then that and AMD won't sell any.
DLSS 4 is better but as long as FSR 4 improves and even FSR 3.1 will continue too improve worst case scenario if FSR 4 never did come to RDNA 3 I don't think FSR 4 needs to be on the level of DLSS 4 because FSR 4 should be good enough to eliminate all the bad stuff and then it looks way better XESS shows us that FSR 4 should be good enough too see optimal improvement for ppl to invest in AMD I think Again & I stand by this, FSR 3.1 can look great in quite a few games, it's just certain games where it looks a lot worse & that's because some games will exploit it's weakness with the motion vectors
The problem is developer adoption.. it is crap, like the Cyberpunk devs are STILL using the wrong FSR version... AMD FSR v3.1.3 is the newest one that they should be using but it's using a standard 3.0 version and you can't separate the frame gen out unless you mod the game with some kind of DLSS frame gen conversion nonsense for it to work on AMD. Thats just one example there are tons of them, AMD getting the back seat with a lot of games..
@@bes12000 Yup Actually if you download DLSS Swapper it works also for FSR now, you can update certain games to FSR 3.1.3 So it's not just for DLSS now that app, will be useful for RDNA 4 also Frog should download that and try it out on some FSR games that have 3.1 already
@@RJTHEGAME it kinda already is as good comparing in cyberpunk FSR 3.1 quality to DLSS 3.5 quality and you actually come out with a higher framerate on FSR 3.1 and the only graphical difference was the colour of two buoys all the way in the background with DLSS 3.5 they looked like a bright orange with FSR 3.1 they looked like a dark orange so if the only difference is minor colour differences at a massive load distance there basically the same
XTX Nitro+ is the 'high end' king right now IMO. 90 series isn't worth the squeeze if you aren't working with it. 80 series doesn't have enough VRAM for 4k since Indiana Jones and a few games recently, modded, forget about it, 20gb+ usage.... Native is still best looking in almost every situation bar bad TAA implementations - this is the only time I've seen DLSS4 look slightly better, to reduce severe TAA flicker, but same time, DLSS still has it's own shimmer downsides on edges/movement still, so it relies on you looking at static scenes instead of moving through games..
Im glad i found ur channel. I agree with many things. The jump from 3080 to 7900xtx is plenty for me. I just want to get sharp image with high refresh rate. RT is a big bonus ofc but its not realistic until it runs with less than 1000euros. I think we are going to be stagnated from now on until amd pushes itself beyond nvidias rt performance. I enjoy my games without rt, they look ridiculously amazing already. There is no missing out with nvidia. There is only fear of missing out. I dont have fomo. I deleted social media and i switched to amd from nvidia. Getting what u need and get satisfied with is enough. This culture with hardware and gaming is getting out of hand. I think the whole market needs to crash.
Moving up in advancements in gaming is not getting far away imo, its just how things go. We are in a world where technology is moving and improving really fast, some people may not like it but it's the way things are going. People will love it, and some won't, but at some point, the ones that dont like it will have no choice as it will become the standard like it always does. You can only fight it for so long before you dont have a choice. I have consoles for exclusives, but as long as there is an option im playing on pc, it just looks way better and plays so much smoother.
I just finally upgraded from a 1080ti ive been using forever and old intel cpu to a full amd build with 9800x3d and 7900xtx. The fact is I don't like to upgrade all the time and currently thats the most actual hardware you can get within reason. SOftware can always be improved, but hardware will need to be replaced. You can't just slap another ram stick on ur gpu, but a software update can literally change everything like what dlss is doing to older nvidia gpus. Amd is heading in the right direction, they just need time.
An all AMD build should give an extra 5-10% performance boost as well. Did you get to keep the old 1080ti? That card is a goat that deserves to be kept and displayed imo. 🤌🍻
@@RiderOfKarma yes, I still have my old rig. I decided to keep it around as it still works surprisingly. Only the newest games like starfield, black myth, jedi survivor are really a problem on it. I really like the idea of having a backup.
I'll be using this 4090 for quite a while. I actually like amd, because I switched to AMD from Intel after 20 years. I'm really excited to see what they do in the high-end next go-around with UDNA. If it could be 50% better than the 4090 I'd be on board
@@RiderOfKarma I agree with that. I'm interested to see the different flavors of CNN upscalersthat they come up with. The best part will be if they actually learn from each other's CNN's strengths and weaknesses to improve both.
Im in a weird spot GPU wise where I have an RX 6750 xt but now have 3440x1400 and 4K screens so it isnt really holding up. I really would like an Nvidia card for DLSS4 and lower power consumption, however I dont want to be stuck with Windows 11 and I am currently trying out Bazzite (linux) and finding out Nvidia cards have a 20-30% performance hit on Linux compared to windows where as AMD get a 5-10% boost on Linux. I am hoping the RX 9070XT with FSR4 and supossibly 40% better raytracing compared to a 7900xt comes out priced within my budget under $1000CAD, otherwise I may not be upgrading for a looooong time due to both companies not making their previous gen cards anymore and no used cards to upgrade to.
I dont care with any youtuber / content creator / reviewer agenda to bring the balance market in any product. Im happy with all i have i3-12100F + 2060S, soon im gonna upgrade it with 5070 because it suited my wallet, im curious with MFG, and to play MH Wilds. I also have PS5 and Nintendo Switch.
I've been PC gaming for 20+ years and the 7900xtx is my first none Nvidia graphics card. I couldn't be any happier with it and probably won't go back to Nvidia for the foreseeable future since Nvidia is so out of touch right now with the gaming audience. I do a lot more with my PC which is why I don't game on a console but am jealous of the console prices.
Performance is one thing. Dependability is another. The latter takes longer to develop. But it only takes a moment to lose it. That's the problem with RX.
I like the ps5 and I like my pc. My next GPU will be AMD because the price to performance is crazy. I would put PC over ps5 for customization. Things like ultrawide support and certain in game sliders are not available on ps5 yet. I think people shy away from AMD because the numbers confuse them. Many ppl have no idea which card to get. That’s why they trying to match the gpu and cpu now. Both are 9000 series to make it easier. Hopefully they deliver on the new GPU’s!
I’m happy with AMD , of course Nvidia has has its things that good but really the prices for Nvidia are just over the top . Yeah I can afford it with out a dent but should I? Are these features really worth it and am I going to spend time actually enjoying it? For me I just play , it looks good and it’s up my alley for price I’m all for it. I have a 6800xt and I’m happy with it
It was an easier push when pc gaming was competitive with console in price. Now though upper mid range cards are costing nearly double the price of a console alone. Between $1000-1200+ gpu's or even $800+ gpu's and the games that demand them to run even sub 4k resolution, it's forcing a lot of people out of pc gaming. Or forcing them to play older games and stay locked within a performance range they can afford. It's making other non gaming hobbies look more accessible and affordable and it won't be good for game studios or gpu companies. Amd is more readily in stock which is a big boost for them. Unfortunately I don't think amd cards belong in the $800-1000 range, raster performance alone isn't all there is to games. It's upscaling, it's ray tracing, maybe at some point more real time path tracing or an alternative that runs more efficiently. Amd's upscaling and ray tracing is just lackluster and once you get into $600, $750, $1000 gpu's people expect more. Rightly so. People aren't into paying $50-60k for a vehicle if it doesn't have built in gps, rear cams, leather seats, all power options. If they're still getting manual windows and seats they're looking more to the $20-25k range. I know I expect more. I'm not saying this nvidia gpu or that justifies the price tag or makes sense. But in general terms, you want me spending $600+ on a gpu? Sorry, your rt can't suck. Your upscaling needs to be on point. Those become very large factors. Or cut them out completely if you're going to offer a more old school raster only card and price them $250-550. Whatever extra cost per card is going into their r&d for post processing upscaling and rt development isn't paying off. It's being squandered as it just increases the cost of the card while failing to bring tangible benefit to the user. Stick with baked in lighting or something.
AMD makes budget GPU's vs Nvidia so AMD will never be over, I refuse to buy Nvidia cards..literally due to the price.... Also the AMD drivers have come a long way if you can run Path Tracing on a 7900XTX in Cyberpunk and get a playable frame rate with a few path tracing and denoising tweaks of course, but get a nice 60+ FPS with just FSR3 + frame gen at 4k psycho settings, thats literally good enough.
I agree a PS5 is more than enough for most gamers, however you also have to consider that games and storage upgrades are more expensive on console. Not to mention having pay monthly to play with friends. I ended up getting rid of my PS5 because there wasnt any additonal benefit vs my midrange PC.
I have an Rx6800 and I wont be upgrading any time soon. PC Gaming is so much more than just playing games. Its a hobby !!! You can do so much on a PC its just no comparison to a Plastic Box console ! Yes a PC can play games ..if you just want to play games only just buy the Plastic box. If you want endless abilities build a PC !! Can you make a Resume on a Console to get a job and get out in the world and experience life ? NO ! People need to get the hell outside and touch some grass and get some Sunshine ! games should be fun not a life style !
From South Africa a 7900XTX is available for R19000, 4080 Super for R25000, and 5080 R29000. For R10000 less, the 7900XTX is a really good card. Just a shame that AMD doesn't have Crossfire anymore, as I would totally go for two 7900XTX cards.
My honest thoughts here, the main reason why Nvidia produced so few 5080/5090 series cards at launch is because the 5070ti/super or any of it's variants are much cheaper for them to produce with high per card profit margins. That will be the card that they release with huge amounts of stock. This also sets us up with the same darn thing that we saw happen with the AMD cards in the current generation of 7000. Good cards with good value but nothing that could be described as blockbuster or stellar deals. My main point of concern for AMD is market share. Without market share you lose so much pull with game developers and it becomes that "revolving door effect". I would love to see AMD break that cycle and come out with a card this gen that sells like hotcake just to keep them relevant. AMD does need a big win this gen in more ways than I think most people realize or are willing to admit. As a 7900xtx owner I'm happy with my card, but you need to keep in mind that the masses are looking for a card that they can just buy it and forget it. For better or for worse that is exactly the reputation that Nvidia has to most buyers. If AMD wants market share to greatly increase this next gen can't just be a good value. It needs to be a great value with great features and it needs to be talked about by the youtubers as a can't go wrong card to buy. Anything less and it's just the same abysmal sales compared to Nvidia.
Sorry froggy i couldn't help it but I bought a rtx 4070 super because the price was under $1000 aud and i didn't want the new rtx 5070 cards ti bump the price on the older 4000 series gpus. Ive paid about 60% more over my rx 6700xt for about 60% more performance so I'm not losing much really. Plus ray tracing plus dlss to try out which will be cool. But in saying that the main reason I have bought this card is so I can upscale using topaz video ai which the rx 6700xt really struggles at doing. Ill be getting at least 2x to 3x more performance on topaz.
Games tend to be better optimized for console than for PC; it shouldn't be that way. Not all games are as well optimized as Spiderman on either console or PC; this also shouldn't be. That leaves most modern games running like crap - that's the reality. You know, I do appreciate Nintendo and their hardware-limited consoles. Games are extremely optimized, even though at times they can struggle here and there. The more raw power our hardware has, the less optimized the games will be. That's the trend games will continue to follow because corporations capitalize on this $$$. Gaming used to be a niche activity back in the days 35 years ago man. Today, they've turned it into a cash-cow and are milking our dead uncles and grand-parents in their tombs. Raytracing will matter more in 2 years with the next generation and the Playstation6. The PS6 will most likely boast 32GB of memory too; overheard that from Moore's law is dead.
I h8te these influencers. Glad you called them out rightfully but they need more backlashing and anyone says they're not Nvidia biased , are fools. Hardware Unboxed are no different than other big name influencers where they strongarm companies via the public eye.
@RiderOfKarma AMD Threadripper 3960X. Real world video editing amazing. Not internet bull shit... Speed, Price.... Can't be beaten! Remember it's 6 years old now!
About 20 years ago, a friend introduced me to PC gaming, not just playing, but understanding graphics cards and performance. He had a monster rig, and I was blown away, thinking: "One day, I’ll have a PC like that." Years later, I finally got one, but it didn’t change much. Most games I wanted ran fine, and I rarely bothered pushing settings to the max most of the time, I just wanted to play. That’s when I realized I’d always cared more about the games than the hardware. Growing up, I was a console gamer. We had almost everything-NES, Sega Mega Drive, PlayStation, N64. When I first saw high-end PC gaming, it felt like a whole new world. But over time, I saw how much PC gaming revolved around hardware flexing in the community (when honestly a good rig is about compatibility but thats another story). While I appreciate GPU advancements, gaming is about the experience, not just the specs. For the record, my first GPU was an AMD, then I got a GeForce. But to this day, AMD is my go-to their performance and value have always been solid.
I am trying to get back to caring about the gaming experience more than the Absolute Powah that's probably why I haven't bought a 90 series card from Nvidia yet
You got it right on the nose. I am not going to fucking wait and fight and beg for the "opportunity" to give a company my money. We're all thinking alike, that;s why all the XTX's are sold out and the XT's are spiked in price.
Your spot on with your assessment. Hardware unboxed are disconnected from the gaming community. When you get things for free, why would you risk that gravy chain, right? I am no fan of Digital Foundry but at least they test all platforms, from consoles to handhelds and PC, something Hardware Unboxed flat out refuse to do because they dislike the other platforms so much. In my book they lack relevancy because they have made the decision to exclude a huge piece of the gaming community.
what I would like to see from amd is fsr 3.2, but it needs enough time put in that it's a massive upgrade; the problem with having fsr 2 then 3, then 3.1 is they're gonna piss off the devs, if you're gonna upgrade UPGRADE. If fsr 3.2 looks almost as good as dlss4 then the dev can implement it right the first time and be done with. I hate the idea of fsr 4, I mean, the best card they have doesn't get to use it? how lame is that. With dlss 4 coming to older cards it's like nvidia and amd are switching places, nvidia is getting longevity and amd is screwing us. Unfortunately the 50 series is practically a scam; if the 5070ti does well that might save it, but the 5080 is just a slightly faster 4080 super, the 5070 is already running out of vram and the 5060 has so little vram it's barely enough to even launch indiana jones, and that game came out first.
all this softaware upscalers are useless except for low end crap gpus or very old gpus. anyone blinded by this recent crap of fake frames and need this software other crap fake frame stuff omg its just sickening.
shut off any fps counter on anythiing from nvidia or amd and most will choose the amd setup. why cause tyis better highest fps is over rated. that and all these creaters are paid to say x. then you have the so called benchmarks made by who? ohhhhh
To be honest, realy hoping that AMD will hit the nail on the head with the RX9070XT performance in combination of FSR4 and the the pricing. IF this will hapen and it will come in a level 5 to 10 percent slover than 5080, i am decided to Switch from team grean to team red after 20 years. Still ruling the 1080TI in combination with 7800X3D and GPU is the last thing to Upgrade (besides of 750W PSU - maybe will also not be neede to be changed with 9070… fingers crossed)
what's really sad, i'm running a 6700 xt @ 4k 60. playing warthunder and other "free to play" it bounces between 50- 60 fps in all games. i went 4k because i watch more than i play now a days.
i am still playing on 1080p at 165 HZ on a 27´ an to be honest, not planing to upgrade to 2 or 4k. Doesn’t see the need in it.. playing mostly competitive FPS games and those single players are also looking astonishing in 1080p. Also a possibility is to upgrade to 7900xtx if they apply the FSR4 for older versions as DLSS by nvidia. There is still that little bug in my had that 24 are more then 16, if you know what i mean.
I will not buy a 7900xtx .....my case only fits big cards not massive cards. At the price its at, lots of ram and good raster. I'll likely get the 9070 xt or 7800xt if it's cheap. The 16gb ram does give me pause. AMD owners of 6800xt could skip this generation but 3080 owners will have ram issues now, nevermind in two years unlike the 6800xt. Ram is so important for life span of a card.
Hardware unboxed said it should be priced at 700 usd based on all the tech nvidia have got. Go watch their latest podcast. If they say 7900xtx should be 700 let's see the 9070xt. Personally I'd go for that if it's priced decent
@@ChrisMusson-kv8ph not really Nvidia just have better marketing Nvidia are basically the apple of graphics cards there fanboys will buy anything because they don't know anything about PCs just like apple fanboys will buy apple and say it's the best when in reality that's just not true
Back in the days it was so simpler, I remember buying my 8800GT in 2007 and I was able to play all my games are max settings except for Crysis with decent frames without FSR/FRAME GEN/DLSS. Those are all gimmicks to rob the consumers and the devs got so lazy that they cut corners to make a game look great performance taxing tech.. the reason why they are so unoptimized or unplayable. Threat Interactive made a video about it and he's right games from last gen were more beautiful. Nowadays it's all about eye candy instead of a decent visual with more stability.
Consoles = causal gamers , gamer that wants something simple to operate PC = can range from causal to entry level enthusiasts up to very seasoned enthusiasts ( caters to a larger scale of taste on a large scale ) PC"s can have thousands of configurations that can make a game enjoyable at any given resolution
I tried to get a card but I'm just going to wait I want real frames I'm waiting til June to see were these cards really are I'm done with the sell out lies
For me it was the steam deck i was like man this is so much fun Sience them i am way more lean back on pc Ok i mean i have a 6950xt thats still a beast card. But its ok for me to just have 60fps on ninja gaiden and not trash the game for looking not so great an running bad. BUT ITS FUN AND THATS THE point have fun
@@Frogboyx1gamingfroggy listening to the hw unboxed podcast. This was the best comment from them. "What is competitive to you isn't competitive dear AMD fan" They are on the money with that. What is enough for you is clearly not cutting it from the sentiment across tech channels and the market. Remember feelings aside..85% of the market is Nvidia. If they don't go.for the bigger market they are done for this is what hw unboxed are saying. Really interesting to hear them talk about this.
@c523jw7 No worries brother, the head of AMD pulled the high end rdna4 to focus on UDNA. •The same way Ryzen took down INTEL’s dominance with a chiplet design, they found the way to do that with their GPUs. The current issue for all GPU improvements is that SRAM cannot shrink any further; the chiplet design resolves this issue. •They are also working on an improved machine learning software with SONY to be used in PS6/UDNA. The big bang is next gen; there’s no way this is the end, and Hardware Unboxed knows this.
Why is it always so final on the Internet, your finished if........... Both companies have their place on the market and thats not gonna change. You can bet your last dollar that amd will weather a storm, the steamdeck and the handheld pcs are mostly AMD and the next steamdeck will be AMD. Every time Nvidia release new cards it's the same. The hype train goes and the Fanboys say they're going to destroy everything with these new cards Blah blah blah, when will the hypes died down everything will go back to normal and life will be peachy.
I was planning to build a new gaming/steaming PC in March once I get my tax return. As someone with no other way to make money, I was hoping to help my family by maybe eventually making a small income via streaming. However, now the price of hardware is skyrocketing so fast...I really don't know if it will even be possible to build a PC now. Personally, I was interested in the 7900 XTX...but then I learned about NVENC and was thinking maybe I should go for a comparible Nvidia card. But all of them are becoming completely unaffordable.
@@Frogboyx1gaming No, I wasn't saying that. Do you ever game and stream at the same time? I was not sure if a 9800x3d + 7900 XTX would do that at high quality or not. I honestly don't have any idea. LOL
Yeah they go on about nvidia encoding but do you know that you have to run games at your streaming FPS or you get tearing? this is why so many nvidia streamers have to use 2nd box/capture cards/etc lmao. I don't have to do that on my XTX. Also the lower quality nvidia settings people use look horrible. AMDs standard setting looks far better. So don't just listen to nvidia encoding = better, there are many pitfalls.
Plot Twist: Frog leaves console for PC, goes too deep down the PC chasing hardware upgrades forgetting to enjoy games, realizes the error of his Frog ways and abandons Jensen's ,'the more GPU's you buy, the more you save.." and ultimately abandons PC altogether for Sony Pony Pro.
I have the 7900 XTX (AMD Reference) and its one of the best GPUs ive ever used. I bought mine dorect from AMF after they fixed the vapor chamber. Its one of the best looking GPUs ever built IMO When undervolted it boosts to 3000-3100mhz on the core and doesnt go over 75c on the hotspot.. Plus its one of the ONLY 2 slot GPU that gives you yhat much performance. I almost sold mine the other day but im glad i didnt..
I have a 7800XT and the only things i'm not happy with are the FSR image quality at 1440p and the RT performance. FSR is mitigated by the fact that I can play most things at 1440p native at a decent frame rate and then I can use AFMF to add some smoothness. The only RT game I'm really bothered about is Alan Wake 2, but here in the UK the cheapest 5080 is $1300 (inc tax) so Alan Wake 2 can just wait haha
I’m Canadian. The difference between AMD and NvDIA cards is less than $150. You are already spending so much that you might as well go with the best card within your budget.
The NVIDIA vs. AMD debate is a lot like the Apple vs. Samsung argument-some people become almost fanatical about their preferred brand. When you think about it, it’s pretty ridiculous. As a Design Engineer, I believe that the true measure of a product is whether it’s fit for purpose -> can it do what you need it to do? Both brands offer quality, depending on your needs. If you want to game at 4K with ray tracing, NVIDIA is the better choice. If you prefer 1440p/1080p without ray tracing, AMD delivers excellent value. At the end of the day, just enjoy your game and stop making a fuss about it.
Look at it like this, The 7900XTX is the fastest card of it's generation that doesn't play russian roulette with it's owners, and you can mount and dismount the GPU as many times as you'd like .
Just remember negativity is a the positive on the interwebs and someone has got to have something to crap on. Be it a console, graphics card, chip, guitar they don't like. I tend to ignore it a lot nowadays.
It's because the situation we're in right now is the PERFECT opportunity for AMD to gain marketshare. They won't if they price the 9070 XT above 500$ (MSRP), and it shows a clear unwillingness to do what needs to be done. And if that's they case, it would be better if AMD stopped makng GPUs. I watched the Hardware Unboxed video too, and they are 100% right in my opinion. If AMD exited the GPU market, Nvidia would likely be declared a monopoly. This would probably be the best thing for consumers.
Got a 7900xtx for 800 as backup for the inevitable disaster that was the 5000 launch. I’m so disappointed with the launch I’m just keeping the 7900xtx. Its a fantastic card. Its given me no trouble and for the price it simply cant be beat. 9070xt is looking awesome, but I’m probably gonna keep the xtx and pray it gets fsr 4.
@ i have the card i want i am here bc you amd FANBOYS DO NOT STOP YAPING ABOUT NVIDIA AND SPREADING LIES ,,SO I AM HERE TO PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE WITH UNVEILING THE LIES YOU WRITE ,,YOU ARE MAKING VIDEOS ABOUT NVIDIA AND LYING AND YOU DARE TO TALK ,,YOU ARE LITERALLY ON A CHANNEL WHO IS DOING ALL THIS
Right now I think that the biggest improvement to image quality for me would be oled monitor. I have a Power Color Hell Hound 7900xtx. So this should be the best option for me.Really thought about a 4090 in the beginning but opted out.
I know the 5070 Ti & 5070 is suppose to be out this Month & Who gets 1 Great but Like I said my 4070 Super can do as good as a 5070 why am I suppose to be Panicking over it. I know the 9070XT & 9070 is in March. So sometime in April & may I see what is out.
Playing on console is a whole different, more chilling on the couch experience for me. Love Pacific Drive sessions on my ps5. I use a projector in the living room and 1080p looks great [on an xbox series S!] as a trade off for playing Elden Ring on a massive plus 100 inch projected screen. And the projector was only $200 bucks compared to a big unwieldy tv. In the summer we take it outside to project on a screen shaded in the garage during bbqs to play mario kart and touch grass at the same time.🎉🎉🎉
@@PCgamerChannelHonestly when the image is that big it doesn’t matter. I love the high refresh rate 1440p monitor experience on my pc, but there’s a whole other kind of awesome playing open world games on a massive screen. If you have a blank wall, I totally recommend spending the 200$ over a more expensive tv with a projector. Plus watching movies that big? So worth it.
in my opinion if they get FSR4 to work on the 7900XTX then its the best card ever so far.
Would that just be software?
@@Cognitoman RX7000 gpus have AI cores...
@@RARF29 no they don't they have ai accelerators
@@yevnal3609 so does rdna4 is has gen 2 accelerators
@@RARF29 the 7900xtx has 96 ray accelerators. I don’t know why people ~who know they don’t know anything about AMD cards~ feel the need to comment anyways. Ignorant.
In my humble opinion. Right now, the absolute best GPU to purchase for its price, performance and availability is the 7900xtx(non reference)
It's just so bad at heavy ray tracing and path tracing though. Even a 16GB 4060 Ti can beat the 7900 XTX in path tracing. Pure rasterization is becoming a thing of the past so I wouldn't recommend anyone that is in the market to buy a new GPU in 2025 to get a 7900 XT/XTX. I think the 9070XT will fair better moving forward than the 7900 XTX overall. Despite maybe being a little slower in rasterization, it'll most likely have much better ray tracing and the new FSR4 will be exclusive to it.
@@03chrisv this is not true. The only cards better at ray tracing are the 4080/5080 and 4090/5090. That doesn’t make it “bad” at ray and path tracing, that makes it better than 90% of gpus.
This is a great example of why nvidia fanboys repeat this lie. They own 4060s, one of the worst cards ever put out that absolutely can’t come close to the 7900xtx in RT/PT, and believe its better! Completely suckered by brand advertising. Cultists coping and seething.
@RiderOfKarma PATH tracing. Compare Cyberpunk in path tracing on a 7900 XTX vs a 4060 Ti. Do the same for other path traced games like Portal RTX, Minecraft RTX, etc. Do you know the difference between ray tracing and path tracing? Any 4070 class beats the 7900 XTX in pure path tracing, and the 16GB 4060 Ti either beats it or matches it. I'm not talking about games like Resident Evil 4 with light ray tracing.
Only becuase everyone is after a 40 series and they are over priced. So I agree in that regard.
If you have a 40 series your card got better but amd did nothing for the 7000 series. 40 series went to a whole different level image quality wise..you can't compare a amd card to nvidia right now.. unless it's a 9070xt.
@@03chrisvwhich is getting more important and dlss4 left the 7000 series cards behind. Actually amd left the 7000 series behind.
I agree, popular youtubers getting cards for free are out of touch
I'm using a 7900xt and man, I have no complaints whatsoever.
Guess what? I play all the games I want and they play great. It's cheaper than all of its competition..
Absolutely 💯 my friend
same here. I have 7900XT.
Literally just bought a 7900XTX last night. Love the raster performance and the huge amount of RAM. I'm going a full AMD build this time.
Hell yeah brother it's awesome.
Same, hell yeah 👊🏻
People who use their brain care more about performance than about graphics. And the truth is: too many games come unoptimized that suck at performance both on consoles and low - mid tier PCs.
People stress out for the weirdest things. Gaming is suppose to be fun and stress reliever. I have been lucky enough to get the 90s card every generation. But I always go in it with the headspace that if I don’t get it, I still have a great system. Do I want the best, yes. But am I happy with what I got, absolutely. Don’t stress, it’s just gaming.
Nvidia and Cyberthrash 2077 have collaborated to convince and trick people into thinking that they need frame gen, raytracing, pathtracing, whatever new gimmick they can think of, to have fun in games. YOU DONT NEED ALL THAT BS TO HAVE FUN IN GAMES. CYBERTHRASH 2077 IS NOT THE ONLY GAME PEOPLE PLAY, STOP BENCHMARKING THAT THRASH GAME FFS.
The xtx is a great card. Who cares what the nvidia guys say. I like nvidia but amd and nvidia high ends cards are all fine
I think this is the silent majority of gamers right here ^ Sane and logical.
I bought mine 12 months ago, no regrets
The 7900xtx performs like the 4080 in raster and 20 series in RT.
The 9070 will have the same RT performance as the 3090ti
The next gen cards and beyond will finally have enough performance to make RT an actual feature, not a gimmick like Physx
I have been gaming since 1979. I laugh at what people complain about when comparing GPU companies.
I started playing games at 240P with 8 colors running about 8 fps. Back when I started purchasing dedicated GPU's, things were changing so fast that I would sometimes purchase 2 GPU's per year. Then it went down to 1 per generation, then 2 per every other generation, and now because of prices and a slow down in the graphical advancements in gaming, I am planning on extending my current GPU for at least 3 generations.
I currently have a 6900xt. Sure it has some shortfalls with the very latest games, VR, and Ray tracing, but man, this card can perform, especially when combined with my 5800x3d CPU. And there are still a lot of games I haven't played yet that will play great on this card. I have yet to play red dead redemption 2, cyberpunk 2077, etc. I no longer purchase games right away. I usually wait about 3 years because then I can pick then up at those cd key sites from around $10. After years of getting ripped off by money hungry gaming companies, I have no problem purchasing games from this sites.
My fist dedicated GPU was a ATI VGA Wonder, around 1989 if I remember. GPU's have come a long way.
I grew up playing PS2 and the graphics in some PS2 game still look good to me . I sincerely think that PS2 , gamecube and xbox generation really took 3D graphics to the next level .
PS1 gen games but have you checked out the re-releases of Dino Crisis 1&2 on GoG? Classics
Snes, ps1 and ps2 is all I've been playing. PS2 emulating at 4k looks quite good on OLED. I doubt we will ever get that big of a leap
Im actually playing them also on a CRT and they're good enough, and those are GOOD games, unlike games nowadays
@ Nice, i miss my old CRTs... Don't miss lifting and carrying them though
I think you mean Artstyle, which is more important than graphics and gives soul to a game.
I don't regret going from Nvidia to AMD gpus the 7900 xtx is such a goated GPU hopefully well get fsr4 if not then its ok if they can somehow improve fsr3.1 that would be nice aswell. but i dont think that i will upgrade to a 9070 xt maybe the next generation would be a better idea specially since i have the 7900xtx
I hope everyone buys amd or older nvidia cards and don't wait for nvidia to put out more 50 serious cards. These graphic card producers are really ruining PC gaming. It use to be fun but now they have made it a real pain in the ass and an extortion racket. The longer one waits for their dream card to come down in price is just a joke because the new cards are overpriced and scarce and then the scalpers want to charge you double for the card you were waiting to drop in price. The only ones making out here are the card producers and the scalpers. Just like all industries now, GREED is their god and the deciding factor in their lives. We live in the "fuck the consumer" age and bleed them until they are dry.
I couldn't agree more
@@Frogboyx1gaming Makes me wonder if I really need to game. I want to game but in all actuality I don't need to. I hate being played by the powers that be.
AMD doesn't have to compete with Nvidia's top end. AMD just needs to under cut Nvidia on price to performance by a good amount. Too close in price & people will just buy Nvidia. I myself use an Asus Tuf 7900xtx & I am very happy with it. Plus gotta love that 24 gig of vram.
The problem with that theory, is that Nvidia have a lot more headroom to cut prices than AMD does. So That would not work in the long run.
@@Audiosan79 That could be true, however now days Nvidia really doesn't give a crap if they sell gamer gpu's or not since most of their money now comes from selling to data centers & AI companies. So even if AMD under cut Nvidia by a good amount, I doubt Nvidia would even care & might just keep the same price on those cards.
@@GreenCrusher1968 But they do care about there marketshare. So they would not allow AMD to take over. A lot of there software development depends on them having that marketshare.
@@Audiosan79RIGHT it don’t matter Nvidia can just discount and people will flock anyway!
Alot of benchmarking and UA-cam content is really aimed at enthusiasts but try to appeal to the average gamer because that's where the views are at. When it's all said and done you can still get an amazing experience from 3 generations ago. Don't get caught up in always wanting what's new because you will never make an entry as the tech moves quicker than you can make a decision! Pick a budget, ignore the noise and have fun
This! I was broke as a kid. Played unreal tournament at a decent frame rate ment striping textures out. Editing ini’s and everything. If I was a kid now. I wouldn’t even be playing PC gaming. Its entry bar has went so high I’d have got priced out. I think most gamers are looking at 500$ price point cards. I don’t think they give a rats ass about what company is making the card. It’s the price to performance.
these are the same guys who think $400-500 monitor is budget..... smh.
A $150 - 200 monitor is budget
@@glowinTHX yeah, my 4k cost less than $300. it was worth it.
Well tech deals guy. Hasn’t done videos in a while. He said that the monitor should be around the same price if the gpu
but to be fair man that is kinda true ,,and OLEDS have done that ,their prices have ruined everything ,,+but they are getting now better ,your high end 4k 144 hz monitor yesterday was high end ,,now is mid tier bc there is no OLDES under 1000 ,,,so your high end 4k monitor just became mid tier ,,and everything under that is basicaly budget
@@AiVirtualBottheres 1440p 240hz OLEDs for $400 now, once i get a new gpu im picking one up too
I have a Radeon 7900 XTX, and when it comes to traditional (rasterization) performance without ray tracing, you can max all settings in pretty much all games and play at 4K natively (even without upscaling), with a stable 60 to 120 FPS easily.
Now... when it comes to ray tracing, it's still a strong card. With "standard" ray tracing like global illumination (RTGI), reflections, shadows, etc. you can ALSO play with 60 fps or higher in most games, and often at native 4k or now sometimes with a bit of upscaling (for example FSR 2 / 3 Quality mode at 4k so that's upscaling from 1440p to 4k) and it will run great with max settings. Upscaling from 1440p to 4k will still be a very sharp and pleasant image using FSR cause the starting resolution is high. There might be a bit of shimmer here or there on edges compared to DLSS, but it's 90% the same experience as DLSS. So don't listen to people saying FSR is "garbage" or something.
Finally, when it comes to PATH tracing (aka full ray tracing) which is super heavy on GPUs, then yes AMD cards have more difficulty. Nevertheless, you can STILL use it and have an awesome experience / image with the right settings on the 7900 XTX.
Alan Wake 2 is probably the worst game in terms of ray tracing performance on AMD GPUs when you turn on PATH TRACING... HOWEVER, I turned on "low" setting path traced lighting with "high" denoising quality, and "low" path traced reflections. I used upscaling with FSR 2.0 from 1440p to 4k and all other settings at MAX or almost MAX. I was able to play Alan Wake 2 at a smooth 40 FPS and it was a great experience on the 7900 XTX. I capped my FPS to 40 on my 120 Hz LG TV (for consistency), and it felt like a high end PlayStation Pro that can actually do PATH TRACING. And it worked basically perfectly. For some, 40 FPS is not enough and I get that. But in reality, it's much smoother than 30 FPS and is actually a good experience on 120 Hz displays (since it divides evenly into 120). "Low" path tracing in Alan Wake 2 is already the MAJORITY of the path tracing experience and is WAYYYYY above what consoles can do. So that gives you an idea of what the 7900 XTX can do if that's the WORST ray tracing game on AMD with the most DIFFICULT setting (i.e. path tracing). And it still runs as a fun and really good looking experience, if you choose the right settings. Therefore, most ray tracing games run even much better than that on the 7900 XTX or AMD GPUs in general.
Long story short, the RX 7900 XTX allows you to play all games at high settings at 4k, including using some ray tracing. It's just not AS powerful as Nvidia cards at ray tracing, but still good. Here's the truth though: currently 99%+ of games in existence today still don't have ray tracing. So is having a bit less ray tracing performance (today) really that much of a sacrifice? In the future, there will be more and more ray traced games, but it'll be a while before that number is very significant compared to currently existing games.
All tech channels are out of touch since not everyone has a $10k gaming setups... But who cares about the rest of the market, its all about high end
XTX does a good job on VR racing, which is all I needed the horsepower for, and I thinkin' this rig will last for years to come.
Absolutely get u. Soon as u say AMD has good value u are out of touch or a AMD shilling. While u are just saying that most people don’t need features like RT or DLSS.
All people I know don’t use there card for RT or do upscaling. There is no need for that extra price for them to pay.
It’s probably better for them to buy AMD cards just cuz they have extra vram and gonna hold longer to the card.
Like we see with the XTX that wins in the performance charts in a landslide against 4080super even.
And even the 5080 struggles against the XTX in some games.
We also see Spider-Man2 that the XTX competes against the 4080 in RT settings. If u look at the provided requirement list it says that for RT Veryhigh u need 4080 or 7900XTX.
I would not say AMD is done if this gen don’t gets to the people but they would miss the biggest opportunity in years if not ever.
I have the Strix 4090 OC. I had the 7900xtx Pulse before I got the 4090. I have a Sim racing set up with an Odyssey HMD 1 headset and the PSVR2 headset. I got the same excellent performance with both cards. Only reason I let the 7900xtx go it was part of a trade for the 4090. I even had excellent VR racing performance with a 6800 Pulse.
Im using a AMD for over 3 years now (PowerColor Radeon RX 6700 XT Red Devil) and im Verry happy with it. In the past i have used only nvidia and really im not missing anything :-) I hope the 9070XT will have a good price because is time to upgrade :-)
*Thank you for standing up for what normal people think about AMD.*
When the Radeon VII was out, it was a BEAST, but they said "oh my god it runs at 200 watts!! it's so power hungry!!"
if you compare it directly against a 7900XTX, it's using right at half the power and getting half the framerate.. *so it was never that bad!*
There's a benchmark video showing these two cards against each other.
*Nvidia cards can pull 600 watts and they won't criticize the power usage.. Nvidia can offer only a 10% uplift over the previous gen, and they don't complain. When it's AMD, it could be half as bad, and "AMD is trash"* 🤦
I just upgraded my Ryzen 1700 & RX 580 to a Ryzen 5800X and a RX 6700 10GB.. I'm a 1080P gamer, and this upgrade was massive, and all on the same motherboard, ram, and PSU!
I didn't buy an Intel ARC B570 or B580 because it has nothing like Radeon Settings and ReLive.. I enjoy AMD's software and driver stability.
All the Nvidia options were just too overpriced for what they are, and they don't have Radeon settings and ReLive either lol.
Great video. Myself being a Gen-X'er ; I grew up with the Original Atari-2600 ( VCS ) _ start of the Video Game industry ; and gone up from there as the technologies got better. With the improvements each new generation of comsoles with the next generation of graphic capabilities made me that much more excited then what I had at the moment. Now with personal computers being in video games as well as the consoles ; has the expectations of the pc's capabilities made the console's capabilities overlooked because with the consoles ( can't ) be { Improved } with software adjusments like on the pc? The PC-games disrespect of console's and says that the PC is king of gaming - but with out the consoles that came before PC's were even a thing ; there's a high probablility that gaming on computers might not of been a thing at all. Can the Console and PC gamers maybe get along and Co-Exsit with each other so that the console gamers can enjoy the console and pc gamers can enjoy the pc. Why must their always be I'm better then you , when in reality it's just a matter or what the expectations are. Consider this _ how many ( PC ) owners play games that are very much like what older consoles were. Steam has a very large selection of this type of games.
the best GPU to but is the best Playstation. It’s optimized and best value for price.
10:02 . .So basically; AMD is way better to run potential games because of "FSR 3.8/FSR.3.1"
- But , Nvidia still had issues with DLSS "The Performance is kind of laggy" than the full-resolution being sharpened (So I'm basically wondering; what the RTX 6090's would look like after RTX 5090 244+ FPS/70-90 FrameRate In-Game would look like in 4k)
"People would basically buy 4k Monitors to get better experience until Playstation 6 Releases in 2 years"
Nvidia. Amd. AMD makes good cards. Nvidia is the dominate force because of the marketing, 5070 doing 4090 performance? I’m sure a lot of people were sold immediately, far from the case though. Only with upscale can it beat a 4090. That’s it. Don’t have a 7900xtx like the man in the video does but I do have a 6900xt and almost 4 years later it’s doing great still. No complaints running a 21:9 wide monitor. Love it.
AMD might be doing the biggest rug pull on Nvidia ever actually... hear me out here this might not happen but here is what AMD MIGHT be doing... (Doesn't mean they are) AMD saw the lackluster 5000 series performance and knew their would be stocking issue's from nvidia... So they delay the 9070XT from Jan to March to build up a ton of stock. Meanwhile the 9070XT is on par with a 4070TI super in RT and 4080 in Raster for $500 while Nvidia's new 5070 will release for $550 and have less performance than a 4070TI and they will be out of stock everywhere due to stock issue's in March. Then BAM AMD drops the 9070XT at $500 in march and having a huge stock built up. It will not only be cheaper and outperform the 5070 but also be in stock to buy everywhere with FSR 4 day 1.
That would be the biggest rug pull AMD could do to Nvidia. Will that happen? Probably not but it could be what they're doing lol.
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It won't be $500, $750 minimum
$500 for the 9070xt when they wanted to sell it for $900? Its not going to happen. That would undercut all their 7k series cards and drop their prices there. Also Muhvidia just called their 5060 a 5070 to f AMD over for their stupid naming adoption. Also, they literally delayed the launch which was supposed to be at the end of January to hopefully0 get scalper pricing. They are literally paying stores to HOLD them because they go rugged so they can launch them a higher price then people want/expect/hope for. They lost. Its already over.
@@cavemantero AMD aren't making 7000 series cards anymore and they've stated that they want to provide an excellent value solution like the RX480 was. I believe the 9070xt launch price will be around $450-$550, any higher then that and AMD won't sell any.
@@studinets it's already been confirmed between €500 and €650 so you're wrong
DLSS 4 is better but as long as FSR 4 improves and even FSR 3.1 will continue too improve worst case scenario if FSR 4 never did come to RDNA 3
I don't think FSR 4 needs to be on the level of DLSS 4 because FSR 4 should be good enough to eliminate all the bad stuff and then it looks way better
XESS shows us that
FSR 4 should be good enough too see optimal improvement for ppl to invest in AMD I think
Again & I stand by this, FSR 3.1 can look great in quite a few games, it's just certain games where it looks a lot worse & that's because some games will exploit it's weakness with the motion vectors
The problem is developer adoption.. it is crap, like the Cyberpunk devs are STILL using the wrong FSR version... AMD FSR v3.1.3 is the newest one that they should be using but it's using a standard 3.0 version and you can't separate the frame gen out unless you mod the game with some kind of DLSS frame gen conversion nonsense for it to work on AMD. Thats just one example there are tons of them, AMD getting the back seat with a lot of games..
@@bes12000 Yup
Actually if you download DLSS Swapper it works also for FSR now, you can update certain games to FSR 3.1.3
So it's not just for DLSS now that app, will be useful for RDNA 4 also
Frog should download that and try it out on some FSR games that have 3.1 already
@@RJTHEGAME it kinda already is as good comparing in cyberpunk FSR 3.1 quality to DLSS 3.5 quality and you actually come out with a higher framerate on FSR 3.1 and the only graphical difference was the colour of two buoys all the way in the background with DLSS 3.5 they looked like a bright orange with FSR 3.1 they looked like a dark orange so if the only difference is minor colour differences at a massive load distance there basically the same
I really like how balanced your approach is in this video.
Thank you 😊
you are the voice of the average gamer and I appreciate that
Thank you 😊
Subscribed! Hopefully the 9070 XT is a worth upgrade to my 6900 XT. I really want to see gains in both Raster and RT.
Awesome thank you 😊 I am sure it will be pretty good.
XTX Nitro+ is the 'high end' king right now IMO. 90 series isn't worth the squeeze if you aren't working with it. 80 series doesn't have enough VRAM for 4k since Indiana Jones and a few games recently, modded, forget about it, 20gb+ usage....
Native is still best looking in almost every situation bar bad TAA implementations - this is the only time I've seen DLSS4 look slightly better, to reduce severe TAA flicker, but same time, DLSS still has it's own shimmer downsides on edges/movement still, so it relies on you looking at static scenes instead of moving through games..
Im glad i found ur channel. I agree with many things. The jump from 3080 to 7900xtx is plenty for me. I just want to get sharp image with high refresh rate. RT is a big bonus ofc but its not realistic until it runs with less than 1000euros. I think we are going to be stagnated from now on until amd pushes itself beyond nvidias rt performance. I enjoy my games without rt, they look ridiculously amazing already. There is no missing out with nvidia. There is only fear of missing out. I dont have fomo. I deleted social media and i switched to amd from nvidia. Getting what u need and get satisfied with is enough. This culture with hardware and gaming is getting out of hand. I think the whole market needs to crash.
I am glad you found my channel too. I agree a crash might be needed to fix it
Im on a 3080 and was waiting for the 5080 launch....cant get them. I ended up ordering a 7900 xtx for $800 and i think i will be happy for a while.
Moving up in advancements in gaming is not getting far away imo, its just how things go. We are in a world where technology is moving and improving really fast, some people may not like it but it's the way things are going. People will love it, and some won't, but at some point, the ones that dont like it will have no choice as it will become the standard like it always does. You can only fight it for so long before you dont have a choice. I have consoles for exclusives, but as long as there is an option im playing on pc, it just looks way better and plays so much smoother.
I just finally upgraded from a 1080ti ive been using forever and old intel cpu to a full amd build with 9800x3d and 7900xtx. The fact is I don't like to upgrade all the time and currently thats the most actual hardware you can get within reason. SOftware can always be improved, but hardware will need to be replaced. You can't just slap another ram stick on ur gpu, but a software update can literally change everything like what dlss is doing to older nvidia gpus. Amd is heading in the right direction, they just need time.
An all AMD build should give an extra 5-10% performance boost as well. Did you get to keep the old 1080ti? That card is a goat that deserves to be kept and displayed imo. 🤌🍻
@@RiderOfKarma yes, I still have my old rig. I decided to keep it around as it still works surprisingly. Only the newest games like starfield, black myth, jedi survivor are really a problem on it. I really like the idea of having a backup.
I'll be using this 4090 for quite a while. I actually like amd, because I switched to AMD from Intel after 20 years. I'm really excited to see what they do in the high-end next go-around with UDNA. If it could be 50% better than the 4090 I'd be on board
Yeah I’m very interested in UDNA. Also in the machine learning software SONY has teamed up with AMD to make.
@@RiderOfKarma I agree with that. I'm interested to see the different flavors of CNN upscalersthat they come up with. The best part will be if they actually learn from each other's CNN's strengths and weaknesses to improve both.
Im in a weird spot GPU wise where I have an RX 6750 xt but now have 3440x1400 and 4K screens so it isnt really holding up. I really would like an Nvidia card for DLSS4 and lower power consumption, however I dont want to be stuck with Windows 11 and I am currently trying out Bazzite (linux) and finding out Nvidia cards have a 20-30% performance hit on Linux compared to windows where as AMD get a 5-10% boost on Linux. I am hoping the RX 9070XT with FSR4 and supossibly 40% better raytracing compared to a 7900xt comes out priced within my budget under $1000CAD, otherwise I may not be upgrading for a looooong time due to both companies not making their previous gen cards anymore and no used cards to upgrade to.
The 9070xt might be a good fit when it comes out in March. On par with a 7900GRE
Nvidia is the best because they convinced all there fanboys there the best
Amd is going nowhere there here to stay!! I'd rather have amd all day!
Meanwhile im chilling gaming happy with my 6700xt.
I dont care with any youtuber / content creator / reviewer agenda to bring the balance market in any product.
Im happy with all i have i3-12100F + 2060S, soon im gonna upgrade it with 5070 because it suited my wallet, im curious with MFG, and to play MH Wilds. I also have PS5 and Nintendo Switch.
I've been PC gaming for 20+ years and the 7900xtx is my first none Nvidia graphics card. I couldn't be any happier with it and probably won't go back to Nvidia for the foreseeable future since Nvidia is so out of touch right now with the gaming audience. I do a lot more with my PC which is why I don't game on a console but am jealous of the console prices.
Not fair when testing a terribly done PC port
Performance is one thing. Dependability is another. The latter takes longer to develop. But it only takes a moment to lose it. That's the problem with RX.
I like the ps5 and I like my pc. My next GPU will be AMD because the price to performance is crazy. I would put PC over ps5 for customization. Things like ultrawide support and certain in game sliders are not available on ps5 yet. I think people shy away from AMD because the numbers confuse them. Many ppl have no idea which card to get. That’s why they trying to match the gpu and cpu now. Both are 9000 series to make it easier. Hopefully they deliver on the new GPU’s!
I’m happy with AMD , of course Nvidia has has its things that good but really the prices for Nvidia are just over the top . Yeah I can afford it with out a dent but should I? Are these features really worth it and am I going to spend time actually enjoying it? For me I just play , it looks good and it’s up my alley for price I’m all for it. I have a 6800xt and I’m happy with it
It was an easier push when pc gaming was competitive with console in price. Now though upper mid range cards are costing nearly double the price of a console alone. Between $1000-1200+ gpu's or even $800+ gpu's and the games that demand them to run even sub 4k resolution, it's forcing a lot of people out of pc gaming. Or forcing them to play older games and stay locked within a performance range they can afford. It's making other non gaming hobbies look more accessible and affordable and it won't be good for game studios or gpu companies.
Amd is more readily in stock which is a big boost for them. Unfortunately I don't think amd cards belong in the $800-1000 range, raster performance alone isn't all there is to games. It's upscaling, it's ray tracing, maybe at some point more real time path tracing or an alternative that runs more efficiently. Amd's upscaling and ray tracing is just lackluster and once you get into $600, $750, $1000 gpu's people expect more. Rightly so. People aren't into paying $50-60k for a vehicle if it doesn't have built in gps, rear cams, leather seats, all power options. If they're still getting manual windows and seats they're looking more to the $20-25k range.
I know I expect more. I'm not saying this nvidia gpu or that justifies the price tag or makes sense. But in general terms, you want me spending $600+ on a gpu? Sorry, your rt can't suck. Your upscaling needs to be on point. Those become very large factors. Or cut them out completely if you're going to offer a more old school raster only card and price them $250-550. Whatever extra cost per card is going into their r&d for post processing upscaling and rt development isn't paying off. It's being squandered as it just increases the cost of the card while failing to bring tangible benefit to the user. Stick with baked in lighting or something.
AMD makes budget GPU's vs Nvidia so AMD will never be over, I refuse to buy Nvidia cards..literally due to the price.... Also the AMD drivers have come a long way if you can run Path Tracing on a 7900XTX in Cyberpunk and get a playable frame rate with a few path tracing and denoising tweaks of course, but get a nice 60+ FPS with just FSR3 + frame gen at 4k psycho settings, thats literally good enough.
I agree a PS5 is more than enough for most gamers, however you also have to consider that games and storage upgrades are more expensive on console. Not to mention having pay monthly to play with friends. I ended up getting rid of my PS5 because there wasnt any additonal benefit vs my midrange PC.
I have an Rx6800 and I wont be upgrading any time soon. PC Gaming is so much more than just playing games. Its a hobby !!! You can do so much on a PC its just no comparison to a Plastic Box console ! Yes a PC can play games ..if you just want to play games only just buy the Plastic box. If you want endless abilities build a PC !! Can you make a Resume on a Console to get a job and get out in the world and experience life ? NO ! People need to get the hell outside and touch some grass and get some Sunshine ! games should be fun not a life style !
All my consoles just end up being netflix machines lmao.
you aint wrong....
From South Africa a 7900XTX is available for R19000, 4080 Super for R25000, and 5080 R29000. For R10000 less, the 7900XTX is a really good card. Just a shame that AMD doesn't have Crossfire anymore, as I would totally go for two 7900XTX cards.
My honest thoughts here, the main reason why Nvidia produced so few 5080/5090 series cards at launch is because the 5070ti/super or any of it's variants are much cheaper for them to produce with high per card profit margins. That will be the card that they release with huge amounts of stock. This also sets us up with the same darn thing that we saw happen with the AMD cards in the current generation of 7000. Good cards with good value but nothing that could be described as blockbuster or stellar deals. My main point of concern for AMD is market share. Without market share you lose so much pull with game developers and it becomes that "revolving door effect". I would love to see AMD break that cycle and come out with a card this gen that sells like hotcake just to keep them relevant. AMD does need a big win this gen in more ways than I think most people realize or are willing to admit. As a 7900xtx owner I'm happy with my card, but you need to keep in mind that the masses are looking for a card that they can just buy it and forget it. For better or for worse that is exactly the reputation that Nvidia has to most buyers. If AMD wants market share to greatly increase this next gen can't just be a good value. It needs to be a great value with great features and it needs to be talked about by the youtubers as a can't go wrong card to buy. Anything less and it's just the same abysmal sales compared to Nvidia.
I think UDNA is where AMD’S main focus is now. Plus the team up with SONY on new machine learning software for UDNA/PS6.
Gonna ride my 7900XTX until AMD puts out another high end GPU. Guess that means UDNA1.
Yes sir
Sorry froggy i couldn't help it but I bought a rtx 4070 super because the price was under $1000 aud and i didn't want the new rtx 5070 cards ti bump the price on the older 4000 series gpus.
Ive paid about 60% more over my rx 6700xt for about 60% more performance so I'm not losing much really. Plus ray tracing plus dlss to try out which will be cool.
But in saying that the main reason I have bought this card is so I can upscale using topaz video ai which the rx 6700xt really struggles at doing. Ill be getting at least 2x to 3x more performance on topaz.
I forgive you!
Games tend to be better optimized for console than for PC; it shouldn't be that way. Not all games are as well optimized as Spiderman on either console or PC; this also shouldn't be. That leaves most modern games running like crap - that's the reality. You know, I do appreciate Nintendo and their hardware-limited consoles. Games are extremely optimized, even though at times they can struggle here and there. The more raw power our hardware has, the less optimized the games will be. That's the trend games will continue to follow because corporations capitalize on this $$$. Gaming used to be a niche activity back in the days 35 years ago man. Today, they've turned it into a cash-cow and are milking our dead uncles and grand-parents in their tombs. Raytracing will matter more in 2 years with the next generation and the Playstation6. The PS6 will most likely boast 32GB of memory too; overheard that from Moore's law is dead.
I h8te these influencers. Glad you called them out rightfully but they need more backlashing and anyone says they're not Nvidia biased , are fools. Hardware Unboxed are no different than other big name influencers where they strongarm companies via the public eye.
When i game it's on Xbox.... My bread & butter is video editing. AMD is what we use.. 2nd to none!
Davinci Resolve has really played well with my xtx
@RiderOfKarma AMD Threadripper 3960X. Real world video editing amazing. Not internet bull shit... Speed, Price.... Can't be beaten! Remember it's 6 years old now!
The problem for other reviewers is they mostly only care about a single FPS number and everything else doesn't matter
Xess 2 dll then ultra quality plus and sharpness at 6 and you get a stunning looking game on 7900 xtx
About 20 years ago, a friend introduced me to PC gaming, not just playing, but understanding graphics cards and performance. He had a monster rig, and I was blown away, thinking: "One day, I’ll have a PC like that."
Years later, I finally got one, but it didn’t change much. Most games I wanted ran fine, and I rarely bothered pushing settings to the max most of the time, I just wanted to play. That’s when I realized I’d always cared more about the games than the hardware.
Growing up, I was a console gamer. We had almost everything-NES, Sega Mega Drive, PlayStation, N64. When I first saw high-end PC gaming, it felt like a whole new world. But over time, I saw how much PC gaming revolved around hardware flexing in the community (when honestly a good rig is about compatibility but thats another story). While I appreciate GPU advancements, gaming is about the experience, not just the specs.
For the record, my first GPU was an AMD, then I got a GeForce. But to this day, AMD is my go-to their performance and value have always been solid.
I am trying to get back to caring about the gaming experience more than the Absolute Powah that's probably why I haven't bought a 90 series card from Nvidia yet
You got it right on the nose. I am not going to fucking wait and fight and beg for the "opportunity" to give a company my money. We're all thinking alike, that;s why all the XTX's are sold out and the XT's are spiked in price.
Your spot on with your assessment. Hardware unboxed are disconnected from the gaming community. When you get things for free, why would you risk that gravy chain, right? I am no fan of Digital Foundry but at least they test all platforms, from consoles to handhelds and PC, something Hardware Unboxed flat out refuse to do because they dislike the other platforms so much. In my book they lack relevancy because they have made the decision to exclude a huge piece of the gaming community.
what I would like to see from amd is fsr 3.2, but it needs enough time put in that it's a massive upgrade; the problem with having fsr 2 then 3, then 3.1 is they're gonna piss off the devs, if you're gonna upgrade UPGRADE. If fsr 3.2 looks almost as good as dlss4 then the dev can implement it right the first time and be done with. I hate the idea of fsr 4, I mean, the best card they have doesn't get to use it? how lame is that. With dlss 4 coming to older cards it's like nvidia and amd are switching places, nvidia is getting longevity and amd is screwing us. Unfortunately the 50 series is practically a scam; if the 5070ti does well that might save it, but the 5080 is just a slightly faster 4080 super, the 5070 is already running out of vram and the 5060 has so little vram it's barely enough to even launch indiana jones, and that game came out first.
all this softaware upscalers are useless except for low end crap gpus or very old gpus. anyone blinded by this recent crap of fake frames and need this software other crap fake frame stuff omg its just sickening.
shut off any fps counter on anythiing from nvidia or amd and most will choose the amd setup. why cause tyis better highest fps is over rated. that and all these creaters are paid to say x. then you have the so called benchmarks made by who? ohhhhh
384bit memory bus, 24gb vram, competes with the 4080 raw power for raw power.
I think it's awesome.
To be honest, realy hoping that AMD will hit the nail on the head with the RX9070XT performance in combination of FSR4 and the the pricing. IF this will hapen and it will come in a level 5 to 10 percent slover than 5080, i am decided to Switch from team grean to team red after 20 years. Still ruling the 1080TI in combination with 7800X3D and GPU is the last thing to Upgrade (besides of 750W PSU - maybe will also not be neede to be changed with 9070… fingers crossed)
what's really sad, i'm running a 6700 xt @ 4k 60. playing warthunder and other "free to play" it bounces between 50- 60 fps in all games. i went 4k because i watch more than i play now a days.
i am still playing on 1080p at 165 HZ on a 27´ an to be honest, not planing to upgrade to 2 or 4k. Doesn’t see the need in it.. playing mostly competitive FPS games and those single players are also looking astonishing in 1080p. Also a possibility is to upgrade to 7900xtx if they apply the FSR4 for older versions as DLSS by nvidia. There is still that little bug in my had that 24 are more then 16, if you know what i mean.
I will not buy a 7900xtx .....my case only fits big cards not massive cards. At the price its at, lots of ram and good raster. I'll likely get the 9070 xt or 7800xt if it's cheap. The 16gb ram does give me pause.
AMD owners of 6800xt could skip this generation but 3080 owners will have ram issues now, nevermind in two years unlike the 6800xt. Ram is so important for life span of a card.
Hardware unboxed said it should be priced at 700 usd based on all the tech nvidia have got. Go watch their latest podcast. If they say 7900xtx should be 700 let's see the 9070xt. Personally I'd go for that if it's priced decent
highest fps dont mean sh1t!
How can you be so wrong about AMD? Because your mind was set to thinking AMD is trash because everyone says so.
AMD isn’t trash Nvidia is just better.
@@ChrisMusson-kv8ph not really Nvidia just have better marketing Nvidia are basically the apple of graphics cards there fanboys will buy anything because they don't know anything about PCs just like apple fanboys will buy apple and say it's the best when in reality that's just not true
Back in the days it was so simpler, I remember buying my 8800GT in 2007 and I was able to play all my games are max settings except for Crysis with decent frames without FSR/FRAME GEN/DLSS. Those are all gimmicks to rob the consumers and the devs got so lazy that they cut corners to make a game look great performance taxing tech.. the reason why they are so unoptimized or unplayable. Threat Interactive made a video about it and he's right games from last gen were more beautiful. Nowadays it's all about eye candy instead of a decent visual with more stability.
Consoles = causal gamers , gamer that wants something simple to operate
PC = can range from causal to entry level enthusiasts up to very seasoned enthusiasts ( caters to a larger scale of taste on a large scale ) PC"s can have thousands of configurations that can make a game enjoyable at any given resolution
AMD don't have a driver update support for 6600xt so my son can play Spiderman 2. Thanks AMD
Underrated comment, AMD. Really needs too step it up. Nvidia just gave everyone a free GPU upgrade, and needs to do the same
Look for AMD 25.1.1 optional driver
@ Thanks mate
I tried to get a card but I'm just going to wait I want real frames I'm waiting til June to see were these cards really are I'm done with the sell out lies
For me it was the steam deck i was like man this is so much fun
Sience them i am way more lean back on pc
Ok i mean i have a 6950xt thats still a beast card.
But its ok for me to just have 60fps on ninja gaiden and not trash the game for looking not so great an running bad. BUT ITS FUN AND THATS THE point have fun
Exactly 💯 my friend
Been in the PC space for almost 3 years! BRAND NEW!! lol
Apparently I am still a baby 👶
@@Frogboyx1gamingfroggy listening to the hw unboxed podcast. This was the best comment from them.
"What is competitive to you isn't competitive dear AMD fan"
They are on the money with that.
What is enough for you is clearly not cutting it from the sentiment across tech channels and the market.
Remember feelings aside..85% of the market is Nvidia.
If they don't go.for the bigger market they are done for this is what hw unboxed are saying. Really interesting to hear them talk about this.
@c523jw7 No worries brother, the head of AMD pulled the high end rdna4 to focus on UDNA.
•The same way Ryzen took down INTEL’s dominance with a chiplet design, they found the way to do that with their GPUs. The current issue for all GPU improvements is that SRAM cannot shrink any further; the chiplet design resolves this issue.
•They are also working on an improved machine learning software with SONY to be used in PS6/UDNA.
The big bang is next gen; there’s no way this is the end, and Hardware Unboxed knows this.
Why is it always so final on the Internet, your finished if...........
Both companies have their place on the market and thats not gonna change.
You can bet your last dollar that amd will weather a storm, the steamdeck and the handheld pcs are mostly AMD and the next steamdeck will be AMD.
Every time Nvidia release new cards it's the same. The hype train goes and the Fanboys say they're going to destroy everything with these new cards Blah blah blah, when will the hypes died down everything will go back to normal and life will be peachy.
That's why I disagree with Hardware Unboxed saying AMD is done if 9070XT doesn't get all-around positive reviews. It would hurt AMD but its not over
Just play at high settings instead of max
You can do that? no way...😅
Yes people enjoy the games do t worry about graphics me with a 5080 lol
I was planning to build a new gaming/steaming PC in March once I get my tax return. As someone with no other way to make money, I was hoping to help my family by maybe eventually making a small income via streaming. However, now the price of hardware is skyrocketing so fast...I really don't know if it will even be possible to build a PC now.
Personally, I was interested in the 7900 XTX...but then I learned about NVENC and was thinking maybe I should go for a comparible Nvidia card. But all of them are becoming completely unaffordable.
I literally power my whole channel with AMD. Do you think the quality of my videos are poor?
@@Frogboyx1gaming No, I wasn't saying that. Do you ever game and stream at the same time? I was not sure if a 9800x3d + 7900 XTX would do that at high quality or not. I honestly don't have any idea. LOL
@@ShenMerrick yeah I have gamed and streamed at 4k 60fps using Streamlabs OBS
Yeah they go on about nvidia encoding but do you know that you have to run games at your streaming FPS or you get tearing? this is why so many nvidia streamers have to use 2nd box/capture cards/etc lmao. I don't have to do that on my XTX.
Also the lower quality nvidia settings people use look horrible. AMDs standard setting looks far better.
So don't just listen to nvidia encoding = better, there are many pitfalls.
@ Thanks for that, I'll keep it in mind. :D
Plot Twist: Frog leaves console for PC, goes too deep down the PC chasing hardware upgrades forgetting to enjoy games, realizes the error of his Frog ways and abandons Jensen's ,'the more GPU's you buy, the more you save.." and ultimately abandons PC altogether for Sony Pony Pro.
It's definitely possible LOL 😆 😂 🤣
I have the 7900 XTX (AMD Reference) and its one of the best GPUs ive ever used. I bought mine dorect from AMF after they fixed the vapor chamber. Its one of the best looking GPUs ever built IMO
When undervolted it boosts to 3000-3100mhz on the core and doesnt go over 75c on the hotspot..
Plus its one of the ONLY 2 slot GPU that gives you yhat much performance. I almost sold mine the other day but im glad i didnt..
Ps5 pro ff rebirth looks better to me vs 7900xtx 😮
Always been a pc guy but I think the move now is to get a PlayStation
fsr4 is the way for amd, it being on 7k sesires aswell at least 7800xt-7900xtx
I have a 7800XT and the only things i'm not happy with are the FSR image quality at 1440p and the RT performance. FSR is mitigated by the fact that I can play most things at 1440p native at a decent frame rate and then I can use AFMF to add some smoothness. The only RT game I'm really bothered about is Alan Wake 2, but here in the UK the cheapest 5080 is $1300 (inc tax) so Alan Wake 2 can just wait haha
Most of those channels have been singing the same tune since the rx480 vs the gtx980 was a thing.
I’m Canadian. The difference between AMD and NvDIA cards is less than $150. You are already spending so much that you might as well go with the best card within your budget.
The NVIDIA vs. AMD debate is a lot like the Apple vs. Samsung argument-some people become almost fanatical about their preferred brand. When you think about it, it’s pretty ridiculous.
As a Design Engineer, I believe that the true measure of a product is whether it’s fit for purpose -> can it do what you need it to do? Both brands offer quality, depending on your needs. If you want to game at 4K with ray tracing, NVIDIA is the better choice. If you prefer 1440p/1080p without ray tracing, AMD delivers excellent value.
At the end of the day, just enjoy your game and stop making a fuss about it.
Look at it like this,
The 7900XTX is the fastest card of it's generation that doesn't play russian roulette with it's owners, and you can mount and dismount the GPU as many times as you'd like .
Just remember negativity is a the positive on the interwebs and someone has got to have something to crap on. Be it a console, graphics card, chip, guitar they don't like.
I tend to ignore it a lot nowadays.
It's because the situation we're in right now is the PERFECT opportunity for AMD to gain marketshare. They won't if they price the 9070 XT above 500$ (MSRP), and it shows a clear unwillingness to do what needs to be done. And if that's they case, it would be better if AMD stopped makng GPUs.
I watched the Hardware Unboxed video too, and they are 100% right in my opinion.
If AMD exited the GPU market, Nvidia would likely be declared a monopoly. This would probably be the best thing for consumers.
Using 9700xtx in two of my machines, rock solid, no problems at all.
Got a 7900xtx for 800 as backup for the inevitable disaster that was the 5000 launch. I’m so disappointed with the launch I’m just keeping the 7900xtx.
Its a fantastic card. Its given me no trouble and for the price it simply cant be beat. 9070xt is looking awesome, but I’m probably gonna keep the xtx and pray it gets fsr 4.
Nvidia since its birth has been selling software with its products. Many years of Marketing, the result was to create a legion of Fan boys...
Amplified by an army of ai bots, to boot
@@RiderOfKarma saying an AMD bot who lies on every comment 5
@@AiVirtualBot
@ i have the card i want i am here bc you amd FANBOYS DO NOT STOP YAPING ABOUT NVIDIA AND SPREADING LIES ,,SO I AM HERE TO PUT YOU IN YOUR PLACE WITH UNVEILING THE LIES YOU WRITE ,,YOU ARE MAKING VIDEOS ABOUT NVIDIA AND LYING AND YOU DARE TO TALK ,,YOU ARE LITERALLY ON A CHANNEL WHO IS DOING ALL THIS
Right now I think that the biggest improvement to image quality for me would be oled monitor. I have a Power Color Hell Hound 7900xtx. So this should be the best option for me.Really thought about a 4090 in the beginning but opted out.
Oh absolutely 💯 you will benefit from the OLED monitor my friend
This
I know the 5070 Ti & 5070 is suppose to be out this Month & Who gets 1 Great but Like I said my 4070 Super can do as good as a 5070 why am I suppose to be Panicking over it. I know the 9070XT & 9070 is in March. So sometime in April & may I see what is out.
Bro HUD does pay for cards they've lost board partners many times
Are they broke like the rest of us?
Playing on console is a whole different, more chilling on the couch experience for me. Love Pacific Drive sessions on my ps5.
I use a projector in the living room and 1080p looks great [on an xbox series S!] as a trade off for playing Elden Ring on a massive plus 100 inch projected screen.
And the projector was only $200 bucks compared to a big unwieldy tv.
In the summer we take it outside to project on a screen shaded in the garage during bbqs to play mario kart and touch grass at the same time.🎉🎉🎉
After playing everything in 4k , I could never go back to 1080p. 1440 p Aint bad, but 1080p is just to far of a downgrade.
@@PCgamerChannelHonestly when the image is that big it doesn’t matter.
I love the high refresh rate 1440p monitor experience on my pc, but there’s a whole other kind of awesome playing open world games on a massive screen. If you have a blank wall, I totally recommend spending the 200$ over a more expensive tv with a projector. Plus watching movies that big? So worth it.
I like open world games on my ultrawide monitor
My 6800 I got for $200 plays everything with no issues. Why anyone need a $1500 GPU is beyond me..
do u think that deepseek will make same changes for us ?
like more gpu from nv and amd ?