How to Cut Hip Rafters
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How to cut a hip rafter with Robin Clevett using the direct measurement method.
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Hi I enjoyed watching your video. I served 6 years of apprenticeship as a Joiner, and part of it was Roofing. the Joiner who was teaching me was in my second year, the whole roof was set out on the ground, after measuring from the wall plates, working from the building square, before we started off all the timber which was 3x2 75x50 as now, then each one was checked for the round (top of spar) the reason for this when the purlins were put on the spars as called was higher which made it easier to nail down, then 6inch nails, the Hips Valleys measured by using the building square, then all cut by hand, as you did with your jig we cut the pattern spar with a strap on both ends, All done by hand saw, how things have changed, now, of course, it's all pree made trusses. I was always grateful for that experience of learning to use the building square, I am now 82 years old and still remember most of it, all thanks to that Joiner. it's nice to see someone else now showing how to use the Building Square Regards welshman 2081
The first half of the ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx3ICSK6nSknaL_45CU2NmFSoXjarGMDiJ book is everything about wood: types, tools, finishes, setting up shop etc. The second half is all about doing projects for inside and outside of the home. The color pictures are helpful. After reading a dozen of these types of books, this is probably the best overall (layout, color photos, plans). Only detraction is that many of the projects use a table saw/router/planer, which are usually expensive and take up space, so the plans are less friendly to newcomers and the budget conscious. But I know I can use a drill, circular saw or a jigsaw to make the projects.
I wish I had you tube back in my day. I was treated like shite during my apprenticeship I learnt how to roof using books I had read at college and using my common sense. When I finished my apprenticeship the first job I did was a Barn Hip! It was a chance for me to practice all the knowledge I gained. I was nervous but I completed it in half a day. This is an excellent video and explained very well. I wish I had a teacher like this when I was an apprentice. I hope this guy keeps educating people
71 year young still going strong carpenter from Oregon. I love watching how things are done in other places. I'm always learning and wish I had You Tube when I started. Very good well made straight forward video. Getting hips to align and plane out properly have always been a problem. We don't do hip framing to much anymore . I like the half lap joint on your top plate. I also like you using a framing square with a wood piece clamp to it. I also do that method. The newer generation is speed square this and speed square that, I like the framing square. I think you get a more accurate layout versus using stair clamps. I also like you using wider hip material. I use double 2x material. Its easier cutting your bevel and more importantly it allows better backing for nailing your roof sheathing. Some company needs to invent a mechanical hardware to make better connection for the top of the hip to the ridge. What species of lumber are you framing with ? Here in western US its primarily Douglas Fir. More engineered lumber products are now being used. Simpson Strong Tie hardware is the standard for framing hardware in the US, is it used in England ?Thanks for taking the time making the video.
The more I watch Robin the more I realise that he actually LOVES what he does. Small things like getting a kick out of eyeing in his newly cut hip with the rest of the roofline. Its very satisfying to see a lovely flat roofline especially if its got a lot going on.
I barely understood a bloody word of this, absolute rocket science. But I knew if I watched till the end it would all fit perfectly.
Robin is a master of his craft!
Blimey! Dynamite pants you definitely didn't understand it if you thought that was rocket science no rockets were mentioned, any way this is timber and my understanding of rocket science is that if you build a rocket from timber the out come is not going to be good but that's only my opinion as I am not a scientist.
@R-77 REALLY not one bit no surely not.
ROBIN HAS CARPENTRY, YOU HAVE DYNAMITE UNDERPANTS. SEEMS TO ME YOU GUYS ARE EVEN.
@@peterbell4154 😂😂
Every body uses trusses nowadays
Big up to all the apprentice carpenters like me watching this so we can be better at roofing😂✊🏽
Thanks for watching John, good luck with your career, well done for choosing such a great worthwhile job mate
If you get this as an apprentice, youl go far mate.
Should watch Larry Haun videos as well. Both incredible teachers.
That's what I'm doing. 👍👍
Thats what im doing robin makes it so clear
You cut a roof out better than some make a piece of furniture. You are so good at explaining certain things and I'm still learning every day after years on the tools.
This is 30yrs of invaluable knowledge paked into a 30 min video. As an ex tradesman I know how
accomplished this man is.
Nice to see a craftsman building a “cut” roof, instead of installing a trussed roof, spot on
Think I have enough of Robin and Roger's video's to get me over this up and coming lockdown!!!!!!!!! Thanks guys!
So, I'm a mechanical designer who can go back and forth with inches and millimeters but I'm also a carpenter and I never once gave a thought to using metric for cutting wood until now. Great video and high quality craftsmanship ...... absolutely enjoyable to watch. Thank you!
I much prefer the 'Measure once, cut 7 or 8 times, f@~k it up, get another bit of timber, do exactly the same again, get pissed off, throw a tantrum while my wife tuts' method, but that's my personal choice.
Robin goes to show how technical a roof is, most of it went over my head (if you'll pardon the pun), great video.
the math is surprisingly easy and the satisfaction is big! Keep on truckin'
Measure 8 time's cut once it takes me forever to do a job 😂😂👍
Or pull a Larry gun and measure never and cut once
Great video as usual guys.
A tip for you Robin that I discovered a bit ago and I noticed you don't do it on a previous video.
When finishing the birds mouth with the handsaw, do the along the grain cut first followed by the cross cut, that way the grain keeps the piece in place whilst you finish off the cut making it neater and less likely to leave the little corner in there.
that tap knocking off the bird's mouth offcut at 12:30 was very classy
The best tradesmen are the ones who genuinely enjoy there work
Some days I just wanna go bang some nails. Bets the hell out of ice skating!
There were days i couldn't wait to get to the job site to do do something challenging like this. After i was done I just stood back a
What an absolute pleasure to watch!! Lovely to see a gent with so much skill and passion for his work. A great teacher for any apprentice this guy!!!
When a bloke is good at his job it always looks easy. Very nice tight job mate!. A big thumbs up.
Top work gents. After a long week chopping wood, there's nothing like lying in the bath watching someone else do the work. Keep em coming guys.
Fantastic again👌 I would love to spend a month working with Robin. I've been in this game for 25 years and still absolutely love it but I could be taught a thing or two with this guy👍
Great video. Good to see someone using a proper roofing square and I love how you picked up the framing hammer tap tap tap, drop it and pick up the nailer boom! You are true craftsman robin. Kudos from Yorkshire
As a carpenter apprentice this kind of video is great to watch and learn from! 🔨🪚Keep up the great work on the videos 🙌 And thanks for putting out great content!
Immense. I got my 585 in '93 at Lime Grove - awesome teachers, awesome curriculum but got de-railed by computers and never practiced my craft. Now I need to cut a roof. Watching you work is a joy and when you cut the top bevel, blind, I laughed out loud. So good. Will probably need to watch this at least another 10 times but thanks. This is the dogs bollocks.
What a breath of fresh air got the Knowledge get's on and do's it NO messing around ALL Chippy's should be so professional i have seen a few rushing around tape out marking this and marking that measuring once and having to go get another bit of wood as cut it too short were as Rob measure's twice and cut's once such an Obvious term across all trade's so Cheer's Rob and Thank You for NOT Letting the trade down and showing how it should be done.!!
Thank you Gerry!!
Super video guys, wish we had all this gear when I was Young, I remember cutting a 9 x 3 purlin at 45° by hand, after scraping 1/4" of ice from it. and using an indelible pencil to mark it. (They don't know they're born these days Lol) Been retired 16 years now, but still enjoy doing a bit, although a lot lot slower, and enjoy watching true craftsmen.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I watch loads of Robin's videos and have been searching for a decent one on hip rafters. A lot of the videos are from tutors in a college environment and they do explain things well. Robin's delivery of knowledge and skill is exceptional though. You know you are at the top of your game when you can teach like this as if you were just making a cup of tea. You are credit to the industry but unfortunately inspire us DIY who will stuggle to convince the wife we can build her a bigger kitchen. Hat off to you sir, sincerely
Thanks Tim that's a really kind comment, it's a simple formula just know your subject and love what you do!!!
Tim Wyld i had some decent tutors but they were old school joinery lovers. If only colleges had guys like Robin
9th degree red belt of wood working.
I like the the zero % showboating.
I salute you Sir.
Thanks for your kind comment, all the best Robin
Nice pride in your work. If we could only find people like this in the USA I would hire them.
You can find the best carpenters in America in Boston, the Boston Irish, 👍 😁 🔨 🇮🇪
Lovely. I really appreciate how you work and your passion!! I bet you were really pleased with that section of the off cut of the hip rafters looking perfect!
So precise in everything he does. Not everyone is a good teacher. I could work with Robin all day long. BTW name that tune ....don't mess with my toot toot?
I'm an amateur at carpentry, learning the basics of site and bench joinery but i have to admit this video has given me more in depth knowledge, thank you.
Ive got a big herringbone floor to set out and with the help of youtube ive been learning about trammel points. Despite me not being a roofer, or a carpenter, to relax, ive just watched this video. Now iv'e got a proper headache! Nice one Robin, your the man!
I would love to work along side robin for a day!! Absolute master at his craft.
I'll never pitch a roof in my life but I can't help but watch Robin teach. Always a pleasure to watch skilled people work! Thanks for another fantastic video.
This guy working is a thing of beauty
Thanks Joe
Love that you're using the hikoki gun. Great tools
If I'm on my own putting up hip rafters, I nail a block onto the end of the 45 degree cut on the wall plate at the height of the up-stand then pick off the points with a straight length of timber, works great.
Thats a brilliant method, I've been a carpenter for 16 years and never though of cutting a hip in like this.... fair play you'll never stop learning in this trade.... love it!!!
Ceiron Green carpenter or your a framer? “ carpenter “ is a general term, usually means finish work or handyman type person. Not someone who builds houses, or remodels for a living.
@@joeframer9642 The term carpenter has no relation whatsoever to a handyman
@@joes2318 I'm a carpenter mate. Fully qualified and very well trained thank you. I have always cut a hip in using a geometric method. I was pointing out that the method Robin has demonstrated here is a different way to how I've been taught.
@@joes2318 my mistake, apologies mate.
Ceiron, On a small roof it's easy to measure the length of the hips as Robin did here, on a much larger roof I always made up a rod and attached it to a dummy hip foot/ birdsmouth and got the length of them like that. As for getting the height above plate I always measured the vertical dimension from the corner of the plate to the top of the common rafter, whatever that measurement is measure down the plumb cut of the hip and this will give you an identical height of the hip in relation to the common. This is in effect what Robin did but not sure he explained it exactly like that. Fair play to him for showing those without his experience, I wish these vids had been around in the mid 70s when I first entered the building trade, they are invaluable as a learning resource. Happy Roofing
Back in the 70’s I was working in Chertsey Surrey UK and used to spend my lunch times watching the roof restoration of a grade one listed 17th century two story house opposite. I was particularly intrigued on the method required for the cutting and fitting of the hip rafters (especially as they were all newly milled expensive English oak). After being measured and cut on the ground, I was astonished to see how well they fitted first time. (they needed to; it took three men to lift one!)
Now I have some idea of how It was done, Thank you so much.
The first hundred you do are the hardest but after that it is not so tricky.
Hi Robin, I believe that I made a comment some time ago (before I had had my hair cut) and wasn't getting enough air to my brain, I wish to amend my comment it was to do with obtaining jack rafter diminishes the way I was taught back in the day when I had more hair! with the framing Square take the rise per ft run on the blade and the figure 12" on the tongue set to the edge of the timber and then mark and move 4" to the left the distance between the marks was the diminish of the jacks for 16" centres. I think I said move to the right in my comment. It all sounds a bit long winded now but it was quick at the time without calculators, actually I don't even think the wheel had been invented!!! Thanks again Robin for your site makes an old timer happy.
Cracking work as usual Robin, I’m an improver cradle tee, and since watching a lot of your roofing videos it’s brought my skills on a lot. Keep them coming
Carpenter 😂
Wish I was 18 and working for you instead of 73 and listening, great info' - thanks
Me too at 62. Would love to be perfect in doing rafters
Well thanks guys, I would have loved to work with you!!!
@@ukconstruction Same here mate. Why didn't you do this fifty years ago!
@@yusufabdullah9858 Don't let age stop you hasn't me I'm knocking on but still cutting and pitching roofs, keeps you young in mind just knackers your body!!!
Oh no you don’t 😀 , I’m 54 retired at 37 , I learnt to use roofing square at 17 . He uses the square with the blade and younger ass about face . I’ve cut thousands of roofs all with my square . Never met anyone on site who could use it as I can in my whole carrier .
Been out of building trade 25 years now, I'm amazed to see how the power tools have changed. Nail guns were a recent invention in early nineties, big and awkward. Battery drills were mainly made by Walt Disney for Mickey Mouse. Only the well off tradesmen could afford such luxuries. Hammer and saw for the old boys and 110V gear. Used to have to lump half ton yellow transformer across site, then your lead an them stupid plugs. I knew of some plumber who accidentally came down from his steps, stood on a 110V plug that had been dragged to the bottom of his steps while up there and broke his ankle as the plug rolled under his boot. He was PAYE but I don't suppose his employer was too happy.
Very good chippy work BTW. Keep the vids coming, I've just subscribed.
My father me and my bro pitched our roof out of Oregon 35years ago my old man on the ground with his old alloy black and decker 9” with me and my brother on the roof yelling out measurements in metric my dad was converting it into imperial in his head. He knocked up his rafter and hip birds mouth temps and with his temps and bevel as we went around getting sizes to him he would throw numbered rafters and not a word of a lie I think we passed back about three sticks. By the time we were done you wouldn’t have been able to slide a business card in any 4 corners of any joint. He was an incredible builder but had a massive stroke 30 years ago now can’t talk he’s 84 but with all his ailments still manages to smile and be positive all day. Ive since blown my back out and can’t do much except look after dad but how I miss them days of being awe struck buy his knowledge and teachings cheers John from Australia 🇦🇺🍺👍
A sad fate for somebody who worked hard and such a waste. It pains me to see able bodied people who can't be bothered to walk down the street.
Skill Builder thanks for that he’s still smiling and some days gets down the shed and strips wire that me or my brother get him and I’m guessing it helps his arthritis cause every time I look he’s got a strand of copper wire in his lips ha ha respect to you and thanks again 🇦🇺👍
I love working, I could watch it all day. :)
The grand master Clevett . Excellent .
Compound cut .....that take me back to my colleague days..
And my rod drawings...lol
Real carpentry and joinery....,👍💯
I'm glad to see even a man of your expertise still looses their pencil. Feeling a lot better about myself
Been making firewood for over forty years and it's lovely to watch someone else doing it right. Hate trusses, love cutting a roof. Thanks robin, nicely explained too!
Great method, lovely to see pride in work, i hope you have an apprentice looking over your shoulder
This is great.. it finally lets you respect craftsmanship..
I’m a joiner but not done roofs for years ,nice to see the way you do it
Love these roof construction videos, really interesting. Well done robin and roger ! Would be good to see a video about lead roofing/lead welding. Cheers !
@Phil The Messer yea, old school plumber like Rodger should be straight on it !
A fella who knows what he's talking about, I could watch craftsmen like Robin all day.
Robin, this reminded my of my greatly missed Dad, setting out a roof by hand many years ago because the guys on site had messed up on the pre built trusses. The job needed to be made watertight so he got on with it. They all stood around mocking initially, then the realisation that there was a Master at work struck and they started to pay attention. Apparently that roof went on quicker than the trusses should have!
I've just dug out a booklet of his called 'The Steel Square' by Harold Ryder, Caxton Press and now reading in conjunction with your tutorials.
Thanks for your youtube series, for someone getting back into Carpentry they are really great, although i did have a Master tutor in the first place to set me right. Thanks again. Best regards James
We would love a copy of that book. Robin is looking to market a square.
@@SkillBuilder there are copies available at abebooks for around £4. www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/the-steel-square-its-use-and-mechanism/
Has @Robin patented the lignum vitae wood strips/clamp? ;-)
Robin you did a great job and a great explain 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
That was fantastic, absolute masterclass
Just perfection and a joy to listen and watch
So complicated. Its amazing. Skill
I cant stop looking at the packing under the wall plates. We love you brickies.lol. thats the easiest way of doing it but you could also put a backing bevel on the hip to.
Useful info, tks... I was going to build a garden shed with a pent roof.I might try a pitched roof now ... maybe... once it's safe to be outside.. .
Always was. Smokescreen.
Russ and Bruce nailed it. (no pun intended)
First one of these I've seen. I used to teach remedial joinery to beginners. Bloody hell Robin you're on top of your game. Easy to follow, couple of points where if I was showing a class I would give a little more detail or try to use no jargon but probably many watching this are in the trade anyway. Great conversational style with your mate chipping in, just as someone said, "like making a cup of tea". I love the attention to detail; where the nails go through, propping out the bow on the hip, thinking of the bigger pic' not just the present cut you're doing. This level of ability comes with at least 40,000 hours of practice! A pleasure to watch.
Thanks from one Robin to another!!!
Excellent video reminds me of some great tips I’ve been shown over the years from various blokes that had the time to show u a few things ... you allways remember who told u what tip or what job u got an idea off Very clear video and easy to watch and understand
just cant get enough of you guys! superb artists.
I have absolutely no idea what hes on about but damn, you are a knowledgeable bloke
an authentic craftsman
Great video! More of this please. Robin how to vids. Never realised he had a tattoo either.. you learn something new every day
It's great how passionate you guys are, father was a joiner very skilled, but he couldn't articulate like Robin dose and wasn't a good teacher.
Genius .Love to spend a year or so with this guy
easy, Tiger
@@eurotourcaddy 😂that gave me a bit of a chuckle 👍
This guy is so calm. Framing with my grandpa he would've yelled at me for making too many marks for one cut. Learned from best. Lol
All bases covered , end result spot on
I miss the roofing 😁
I am a carpenter myself, I also make roof constructions in the Netherlands. you should compliment the explanation.
It is so refreshing to finally see some one using a hand saw to cut out the bird's mouth! Practically every other video I've seen, the worker runs their circular saw through the bird's mouth, leaving behind a weakened and unsightly piece of lumber... Nice job!
I'm a 2nd fix guy and trying to become the full rounded carpenter .at the moment this stuff blows my mind but doing this day in day out is how he makes it look so easy
@lee Goodman I know all this but it still sounds confusing as hell when robins reeling it off. It's not as complicated as it sounds. Your best bet is to do a couple of roofs with a roofing capable joiner. I'd love to do a few roofs with robin as he is definitely more knowledgeable than me. 👍🙂
I thought he did x good job of keeping it simple .
The jack diminish a little tricky to grasp when someone is trying to talk you through it but it's like any carpentry job once you have done one or two & with, if your lucky a good tradesman that takes time and shows you his method
@@krainey yeah it made perfect sense to us because we already know it bud. 👍🙂
Always love looking and learning and you are brilliant at explaining the process. When watching my mate do the roof he would sometimes clamp his Square set back and run the saw along it. Ensured he always cut a perfect straight line. Watching and learning from different people you really do learn a lot
I've never seen this done before but I find myself strangely fascinated by the whole process. You're a true craftsman sir.
Robin just came from a wee swim ar 22:00! I do really appreciate somebody else who also uses the original " cordless" saw(handsaw)!
Love it from New Hampshire USA
Although we use inches & feet so keeping up with the math is a bit dodgie... 3rd generation builder 1st yr on my own after my father who's a master carpenter was diagnosed with laryngeal cancer losing his voice completely. Always looking to learn any new tricks or how others do the same thing with the same common end goal. Thank you 100 mate.
Seriously? Metric isn't hard, count your fingers, it's easier to shout 150mm rather than 5'' and 29/32,that actually took me 5 min to count and work out on a tape measure, in metric numbers go up its bigger, in imperial numbers go up its...smaller...and/or bigger? Your money is metric, I'm interested in why Americans are so against the metric system, am I missing something?
@@sally6457 As a UK Carpenter, we use both measurements. Above a meter in size it sometimes gets tricky to communicate the size of cut needed in metric to who you are working with 87 inches is much easier to measure out on a tape than 2210mm. Trust me, the bigger the sizing the easier it is in Imperial.
I'm in the UK and still use feet and inches as that's the only way I want to know .still get my roofing square that way . Easy to make mistakes in metric . Why are doors 2'6" and 6'6" and ply 8' x 4' but plaster board 1200 x 2400 . Timber is sold by the cubic metre yet four by two or two by as it's called . I don't go shopping for 98mm x 48mm as that's the sawn size . Either one or the other . I'm use to the imperial size in timber but I do use metric for metal work . I would use a 12mm bolt with 1.25 pitch thread .
@@sally6457, man is working from a plan called out in feet and inches, you expect him to first convert every call-out? Seriously?
@@michaellloyd463 so is accuracy not as important if it's big? On a UK tape measure the 1/16" marks stop at 1', while millimetre marks are the full length.
I'm unfortunate enough to be a British 40 year old joiner, so I'm working in the middle, I have to know imperial to understand the older generation, and the modern world of construction is metric,
So we are the generation that had to learn both systems and know how to convert one to the other depending upon who you speak to,
Its all frustrating.
But metric is easier! 😝 hahaha
As an old Spread with 40 plus years under my belt, I have to say I was riveted watching Robins master class.Aways a joy to watch another trade and how they go about their business.Any apprentice would be fortunate indeed to be coached
by such a craftsman.
I do love watching roofs built properly. If Ben I wasn’t a bricklayer I’d wanna be a trad roof builder. 👌
Craftsman! So satisfying to watch a guy who loves his craft...
I like to think I’m a fairly handy DIYer (I’m a qualified sparky so get to mix with most trades for tips etc) and I thought I’d have a go at doing the roof myself on a two story extension some years ago. After three sleepless nights trying to study a booklet entitled “Roofing Ready Reckoner” I gave up and called a roofer mate in to do it. Even helping him I couldn’t follow it. Wish you’d been around on you tube back then.
Very under appreciated trade in my opinion.
Ps. Absolutely loving this series and your presentation style. It’s like listening to a mate on site.
Thanks mate
Go watch Rick Arnold's video. Best one out there
My head is hurting! Wish I could understand everything you were saying! It's a joy watching a professional who knows his subject so well!
Enough has been said of his mastery; when you think about it though - wood is an incredible material. Versatility nobody could have engineered for, of course it quickly devolves into teleology - all the nonsense of whose making use of what, the wood of us or us of the wood; its near well mind-boggling what is possible with just plain wood. And no I'm not high, just pause and think about what is possible with wood, am just so grateful for the existence of wood.
Yeah trees give us oxygen It's better to use other building materials also wood rotts!
Just wanna say it was an absolute pleasure watching this. Really great video
SOME GUY THEE ROBIN take care , stay well, cheers Mick,
We need more Capel.. Thats a facinating build.
I love watching this man work. Perfectionist
Those couple of bars you whistled. Don't mess with my toot toot. Love all your vids.
Such a delight to watch a true craftsman at work. So enlightening. Thank you!
Brilliant! Like anyone who's mastered their skill, they make the complex look easy and make it appear easy enough that anyone could do this...although true, you do not achieve this knowledge and competency without years of commitment. Thank you Robin for sharing your skill!
I can make easy look complex that's hard to do!!
You're the type of carpenter I always wanted to be....Bravo!
I am 75 years old ,when I was a first year app.Carpenter I bought a wizz bang Level Stabilla which was brand new state of the art level .every one else had one made of timber ...It cost me over a weeks wages..I still have it..I made an aluminium box to put it in .I once lent it and when I looked he was using it as a leaver ..
That's a great tale of investing in great product, your level is probably worth more today than you paid for it, indeed if you ever wanted to sell it I'm your man, thank you so much for engaging with us, I have massive respect for your generation of Carpenters who did not have the luxury of modern tools and techniques that we have today, thank you for your service to our construction industry, all the best Robin
Awesome skill, with simple tools! In America, we’d just keep cutting until the scrap falls out! I need a good hand saw to knock it out and finish the cut!
I use a wood chisel! 😜
My part of America we do it correctly
I pull the guard back and flip the saw upside down and vertical to finish plung cuts when possible
Robin "Pythagoras" Clevett......... Fantastic
True quality work. This is the man you want to build your home.
I am totally amateur but I did two roofs when I was younger. I got there by a mixture of calculation and trial and error. No roofing square or nail gun or power tools. 90% as good at best. They survived and don’t leak! I employed a master craftsman like youself for my next extension. He measured up the purlins and cut the compound mitres-perfect fit first time. All hand sawn and hammered nails. I reckon you should get an honorary degree in trigonometry.
Fantastic, I’ve always wanted to see how this is done. Beyond my skills but great to see.
Что здесь фантастического?в России любой мужик знает как собрать яндовое примыкание
Nice tutorial on cutting hips Robin.
Great meeting you in Germany in January, cracking company 👍
It was great meeting you and your pals, it was a great night out too, I did thank our kind host who looked after us but and I know he is a good contact of yours so next time you speak to him can you thank him again on my behalf I would appreciate it, look forward to seeing you next time in Germany!!!
I love what you did... thanks for posting... I learned a lot!!!
Awesome video, good seeing a craftsman at work,,,,,,i say this with experience as have worked in building game for 3 yrs