How to Build a Hipped Roof, Proper Job
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2023
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Roger and Dan demonstrate how to calculate and build a hipped roof.
A hipped roof is sloped on all four sides, while other roofs may only have two sides that slope.
A hipped roof is more stable against wind and snow and aesthetically pleasing.
The sides of a hipped roof are usually at the same angle but can also be varied for a more unique look.
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I learned hipped roofing on my level 3 diploma course at college 6 years ago. Working out the hip and jacks always confused me as we were taught with a geometric drawing with a compass and 3 bevels. I’ve watched all Robin’s roofing videos and not taking away anything from Robin as his a great carpenter but explaining how he works it out confused me aswell. This is the first video that actually made sense to me to the point where Dan has explained how to do it practically with simple explanation to the point where this has all just “clicked” in my head with roofing. It’s made that much sense that the next roofing job that comes along I’d be confident to take it on and not shy away from working out the hips and jacks. Thank you Dan!
That’s great to hear Tom. Sometimes you just need that explanation to make it click.
Happy roofing!
Dan.
Hi Tom
We produced this video with Dan in response to comments on previous videos we have made on the same subject. It was clear from the comments that we needed to slow it down and go over the points in more detail. I am so glad it has done the trick, it is a great moment when you get something, that lightbulb moment is what makes it all worthwhile.
It is well worth watching Dan's playlist because he has really covered all the key aspects of roof construction now.
I am fully impressed! It’s just a complete ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 plan with the best resources and step by step instructions . These shed plans are so satisfying as if the sheds build themselves on their own. Worthy work Ryan!
By far the best and easiest explanation, no need for a maths degree just common sense 👍
Love a roof video, as a builder I always look forward to the roof construction, every days a school day when Dan’s about. Cheers lads 👍
Thank you for this. The video was very informative and clear. it answered many of my questions, as well as showed me other things I hadn't even thought of. From the Pacific North West, I thank You!
Roger! What a fabulous video with another Master of his Craft. There are so many subtle gems of information within it. I will definitely be watching more of Dan's videos. His angle tool is amazing. I hope he has it patented.
I am glad you picked up on those gems.
Great video Dan and Rodger 👏👏
Thanks Mark.
the clearest explanation I've ever seen . Well impressed by you guys . ps your square is superb. thanks both
Thank you Mark, that is what we were aiming for.
@@SkillBuilder Great video and the square looks really useful, where can I buy one?
@@Pilgrim-SG9392 There's a link in the video description when you click on 'show more'...
Just built a garden building using this method, amazing tool, all cuts bang on 🙌
Hi Dan and Rodger I’ve been in the trade for many years general carpentry but have over the years fitted a few roofs trusses and cut and pitched,loved your vids so much bought Dans roofing square as I have a small roofing job coming up very pleased when it arrived but like many carpenter thought I could improve it (oh dear ) so noticing that you used a clamp to secure rafter ready for cutting I thought why not drill and countersink a couple of holes so I could use screws for the same result; that I’ve done so will see ! Keep the vids going
Phil.
Building Roger’s Doghouse for when the Mrs kicks him out 😂
Loafer lives in a detached garage, guarded by spiders.
The missus is an arachnophobe.
Again
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Brilliant!
Fascinating. Two brilliant blokes.
I didn’t understand any of that but it was fascinating. Cracking job lads
Nice one Dan. I actually understood that. 👍👍
Good to hear! That was the aim, I think Dylan's graphics helped a lot
Good work Daniel 👍🏻
Great video roofing is simple if the wall plates are square
Hi Guys, i just screwed up my carport roof by following an american video that stated the seat cut for a hip rafter be lowered by half the thickness of the hips width. This made no sense,but he was a teacher of sorts and i bulldozed along and they of course were too low in relation to the commons. What a royal cock up! should have followed yours. Cheers.
Just a phenomenal video with perfect information.
Glad you liked it
I'm teaching guys how to do this and I like the way you've shown this and will try to keep it as simple and practical for the guys.
Glad it was helpful!
Top lad Dan ‘ Roger has got some great mates brilliant watch keep the great work/videos coming 👍👍😘
Having the hip degrees already worked out is a great feature on this square
Great work
Childs play all that to you Dan, great job and ps, I'd created my own playlist for all your tips and videos long ago. Hope your back soon. 👏👏👏
Thanks Kevin.
Excellent video
Thank you very much! We hope it does well
Never built a roof and never will. Strictly low level DIY for me but I found that fascinating. Skill - hard to define but easy to recognise. Nice one!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Roger - you have a talent for explaining step by step. In a lot of these type of videos folks rush over things -- I guess because they are so used to doing it everyday. Simple, key details get over looked that way.
Hi James
I am glad that you can see what is going on here. Daniel is good but, like all tradesmen, he could lose his audience by not explaining things. I did a teacher training course many years ago with the intention of teaching at colleges if ill health prevented me being out on the tools. Thankfully it didn't happen but it came in handy on this channel.
@@SkillBuilder A couple of quick specifics from this video: first, the common rafter length you calculate overhangs the building -- but by how much? and second (sorry I probably missed this) how do you calculate where to cut the bird's mouth?
Thanks again. I get the feeling there is something here for everyone from the DIY enthusiast, like me, who is trying to work out the basics through to the professional who can pick up a few extra tips from their collaagues.
Thanks been watching lots of your roofing videos I found this one very helpful with the animations hopefully after a few watches will take this in I've only been taught how to install trusses when it comes to roofing
I’ve alway been impressed by roof builders, love the content, need to watch this 10 more times
Great video clear and informative massive respect Mikee
Fantastic video Dan and Rodger with great illustrations! Dan I've received my square and id like to tell you and any one else that's reading this just how good it is!!!! If you are interested in Dans square its worth its weight in gold!! Don't take my word for it try it for yourselves
Lovely job lads ❤
Thanks Andy.
Artists at work. Well done guys!
really helpful info on this taking actual measurements instead of all the different apps makes it alot easier to get a grip of thank you skill build
Good advice about the 600 Centres. And the isolation value. Thanks. Good video. I knew Rodger wanted to be a wood spoiler all along.
Dan's da man! Good job mate.
Thanks boys, I don’t do many roofs! But I always over complete things, you make is so simple. Thank you so much for sharing…👍
Just used forgefast fixings yesterday, one of the boxes was 6 short.....now i know where the other 6 are😁. Top informative video as ever gents👍👍👍🔱🔱🔱.
I want to build a hipped roof on my summer house project at a 30 degree pitch. The perfect video. Just wish you went on to do plumb and seat cuts!!
Great vid lads!!
That is all in the previous video where we started with a simple up and over. Dan has lots of videos on our channel
ua-cam.com/video/OSDUZPV8GB0/v-deo.html
You two are talented craftsmen , and make cracking videos too . Cheers lads
One talented craftsman and one getting in the way
@@SkillBuilder 😬
@@SkillBuilder see you on the next one
Excellent!
Love the proper English accents, great coverage very instructional, thank you for teaching everyone! ... the cm comparisons will come in handy while I'm living and building in Hungary after living 40y in California (Oregon) ... and then was merely a little interested in building NOW im very interested in creating a few geodesic dome and octagon small buildings starting out and practicing on small and later using what I learned to build large house sizes. of the same.. all these tips are excellent and very helpful, along with 2 years of wood shop in Paradise Ca high school... 1987...
-tibor
A great, simply explained and easy to follow masterclass on how to mark and cut in hips and jack rafters👍It's videos like these that are really going to help people wanting learn more about this aspect of roofing carpentry👊 It's just a shame all those sweet joints have to be taken down😢
Thanks Del. 🤝
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. 👍😎
This was really well explained and made complete sense. Brilliant!
Am a joiner thats never covered roofing when serving my time this helped today when i had to do my first hipped roof 👍
Top class thanks lads
The best video on the subject
I wish I had this resource years ago. Teachers at school were never interested. Thanks
Great stuff !!
Thanks Adrian.
Awesome video!
Dans class great video guys, would be great for you to show us another with valley rafters and lay boards 😃👍🏽 thanks guys really enjoy your content
best video thanks
Learned to do roofs using imperial inch rise rafter table and would find it hard to change but this is a very good way of doing it
Dan has an American version of the square. It works the same way
Great video guys! very informative and a joy to watch. i was wondering; are you guys planning any more instructions like this for different types of roofs? like half hipped roof, and perhaps valleys?
We are open to suggestions. All the time we have the rig we can do these in detail videos without the pressure of a customer wondering why we have turned their building site into a movie set.
There are some good videos coming up with Dan.
Just a side not, collar ties and I think for the hip they are called king ties to stop spreading of the roof and potentially the walls? Can't recall as it has been many years since I have built a hand cut roof. Great video lads. Cheers Jerry
I have learned a lot here as an upcoming carpenter, thanks so much guys
Great to hear!
Roger had a great technique where he shows how it flops about
Like how you mention sheeting the roof with OSB or ply. That has been compulsory in building regs in Scotland for many many decades.
I know it is a Scottish thing, due partly to the proximity of Sterling board. They say it is due to the higher exposure to strong winds but I wonder if it is something else.
Love your videos Roger and Dan.
Roger how many bleedin cups of tea do you ave!
Cheers from Australia.
Great Demo, really informative. Can i ask, what Timber did you use for the hip roof?
Love these videos. Could you do one on irregular hips? 👍🏻👍🏻
We have one
Dan definitely knows his stuff although when ever I do roofs I use the scale down and scale up method but as they say there’s many ways to skin a cat
Thanks Ken. Yes, what ever way works for you best.
Helpful indeed. Gents, would you entertain with a video on deck railing top plates with "Comfort slopes". The top plate is sloped 22 deg for resting on. The learning message is how you miter the outside and inside corners, with a 22 deg slope. Thanks for the consideration.
Great suggestion!
Thanks and hope to see your video on it.@@SkillBuilder
Will you be on the dragons den to market that new square ? Should Sell itself. Amazing videos 🤙
As an owner of one of Dan's squares, an explanation of why the proportional rise in the hip markings are not equal would be appreciated. (In simple language.)
There is no easy way to explain it but we will have a go in another video.
The hip plumb cut is not always the same, it varies each time so it’s marked out irregular.
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. Yes he knows it is irregular but, like me, he wants to know why it is not a constant. Somebody explained to to me and it went in one ear and out the other. It is to do with the fact that you are not working in plan. We can discuss this in a future video. It is one of the drawbacks of the traditional carpenters roofing square because it works from a fixed point.
@@SkillBuilder good idea.
Is there any benefit of hipped roofs, other than less brickwork? I always liked the look of gable walls and they give more space in the loft, but maybe I'm missing something.
First comment and important comment.
My mate, who works for the council, says he was very busy today working on a council house where the council tenant had broken the shower handset holder. It had snapped clean off.
It looked like wear and tear had caused the failure rather than the council house tenant being heavy handed.
Good skills; bizarre trousers
Hi mate ,can you explain why you said you would need a thicker batten on this video ,thanks.. can't get my head arout that .👍
help! l have a pitch roof at 19 degrees at 5 meters, steel beam to wall plate what thickness rafters do l use to keep building control happy (should l use a purlin ?)
Hi guys, is the end king common the exact same length as the commons ?
Great video love watching Dan work on the roofs, just a question is the king common rafter exactly the same size as the common rafters? Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching Stuart.
Yes it is, as the ridge is the same thickness as the rafters the king is the same length as the commons.
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. much appreciated Dan, was the perfect video to come up, only done a handful of roofs and got a hipped one coming up in a couple weeks so was a good refresher to the memory👏👏
@@TheStuG95 I hope it goes well for you.
Great pitching Dan.. pity Rodger said you can use the square if you want or not, however, if I didn't use your square I wouldn't know the angle of the hip!! So it would be a great follow up video to show people how to find the pitch angle of the hip. Incidentally in Scotland your King common is our Crown rafter...go figure.
Hi Stephen
We get accused of disguising adverts as HOW TO's so I wanted people to understand that the information holds whether you use Dan's square or not. We don't drag people kicking and screaming to the cashpoint and it works well enough. Daniel had sold out again.
tan⁻¹(tan(P)÷√2) where P is the pitch of your equally pitched roof :)
E.g
tan⁻¹(tan(30)÷√2) = 22.21 rounded.
The tall carpenter also has a practical way of doing it, pretty cool.
Hi sorry I'm replying to the wrong video
When you drill your damp rods in is there a certain height they go in as the pavement on the front of our house is higher than our floor level in the house
Thanks Steve
I was taught to not drop the hip rafter down from the plane of the common rafters like Dan has here. Rather to keep the hip up on plane with the other rafters and cut or plane the dihedral angle onto the hip afterwards. I don't think strength wise it makes alot of difference though.
i love how dan seems to be using a different writing implement in every close up shot, that's why i keep 3 pencils on me all the time, if i leave one somewhere (as i often do) no has to sit and wait for me to go find it
Roger is a pencil thief. Dan starts with three and finishes with none.
@@SkillBuilder there's always one about
@@SkillBuilder 😂
@Daniel Cox sounds like a good excuse to get one of those bungie strings for your pencils, also saves dropping them off a roof
@@ToraKwai good idea. I do like a few pencils close to hand.
Always wanted to test this by myself, great job 👍
Can you explain why you make that "arc" line, instead of measuring from the top -> square line down and then mark the birdsmouth?
Hi Robin, as it’s 2 fixed points , ridge and wall plate there’s no need to measure along the top of rafter.
Ok, thanks. And how do you determine the angle of 30 degrees.? Did you calculate this, or did you choose this by yourself?
@@ziel0k5 if you watch the previous roofing video you can see how how we decided on the pitch. Thanks for watching.
Hey Dan that t shirt looks the business, had a look on your website, and they are not available. Are they for sale yet.
Hi Sam, thanks. They are not however I could get some more printed.
Keep a eye on my Facebook page.
Mmmm the run is not the span ? The run is half the span . The end rafter as I taught is the CROWN rafter ( in Hampshire ) . Maybe different in Essex ? Whatever , we still can’t get paid enough? Keep up the good work .
When focusing on the hight above plate measurement for the hip rafter, it doesn't take into account the level with regard to sofit side. Do you ever need to cut a strip to level it off underneath?
That is in the next video. It is common to cut the rafter feet with a level line
Wizardry!
Am I right in saying the size off the hip rafter’s and the ridge be half the size again of the common rafter.
The sizes are usually worked out by a structural engineer.
In the USA imperial dimensions are still used
That is why we mention them. We have many American viewers who struggle with the metric measurements.
Dan also has an American Rise over Run version of his square
@@SkillBuilder yes they do.Roofing ratios in America are different .its per feet run. Eg a 6 12 pitch means that for every foot or 12" run it rises 6" and so forth. I am personally fully conversant with both metric and imperial units.Metric been the easiest to work with.
Hi guys, could you explain how you found the ridge height and length?
Hi George
Try this one
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What kind of square is that
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Does anyone know the name or brand of Dans pencil he is using 👍🏻
Hi John, it's the Tracer Deep Hole Construction Pencil - Here's our affiliate link: amzn.to/3NmUpCJ
Why do we use screws in the UK, when in America they use nails. I heard they said nails allow for more flex of the roof. Can someone let me know which is better
Nails do have more flex than standard wood screws. It's also a lot quicker to use a nail gun than it is to put in screws. I think Roger is using screws for this so that it can be dismantled.
@@bungleford 👍🏻
Roof porn. Love it! A cut roof done well is a work of art....... And I hate to say it, but a dying skill.
One observation about 600 centres that a chippy won't see unless they go on to do the roofing as well, is that you can get tremendous bounce on the battens. If you're slating the roof or using a plain tile and nailing every one, you really notice the difference in stiffness of 400 versus 600.
Hi Paul
I think 600mm centres are also bad for plasterboarding. I would always choose a 400 centres layout.
I thought I'd seen this already.
No you haven't. Spot the difference....Clue.........Hip
@@SkillBuilder
Ah, well, OK, thanks!
what is the name of the cool square
It is The Ultimate Roofing Square from Essential Carpenter Tools. The details are in the description
Carnt beat roof trusses😂
Robin clevett vs dan cox. Who is better?
It’s no competition.. just a bit of fun roofing.
Scott Mason
How would anyone ever come up with the criteria to judge? Is it about speed or accuracy? Does a millimetre here or there, or a even few seconds make any difference? In the end it is about having a nice day filming the build. Hopefully that comes across in the video.
If you haven't seen it I urge you to watch Dan's Oast House ua-cam.com/video/2_LNrxL2gvE/v-deo.html
My money is on Dan, less talk and more action than Robin!
@SkillBuilder thats pretty obvious isn't it - higher standard of workmanship, better industry knowledge, speed at getting the job done.
Personally, I think they are both fantastic carpenters just though id see what other people opinions were.
Fewer rafters, less cold bridging???
Is there a question here?
@@SkillBuilder Apologies if my question seemed like a statement!
About the calculation of the measurements please can you demonstrate in metrics? not in FOOT measurements
king sounds better lets just call it that
I like Queen
@@SkillBuilder either sounds better than end common 😂
I'm sure I have watched this before.
You have not seen it. This is the hipped roof which is different to the gable end that we did a few weeks ago.
@@SkillBuilder and that my friend is the reason why I'm stuck in an office. Should have paid more attention when watching the last video.
Even better, DON'T build a hip roof. Build a stronger regular roof.
Sick and tired of cowboy builders in southend. We need regulation to control who can do work or not now and several punishment for lea ing customers in vulnerable positions such as no heating, water secure, electric certified etc.
🤣Just heard you on GB "news".............stick to the DIY tips......otherwise you will be accused of "using your voice" to forward your agenda like GL.
Andy
That is very good, do you think Skill Builder will sack me?
I do not have an opinion. Are you concerned for your continued employment ? Do you think the BBC will "sack" GL......?
Forgot to mention, must have 25 years experience
Always great videos from you two . I like the extra details this time too 👌🏼.
If we were brave enough to tackle a roof I’d buy a square for sure .
We will be using Forgefast screws on todays project a fence repair 💪🏼👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Thanks chaps. Let me know if your going to tackle a roof. 😉
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. 😁🧱👍🏽