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This was a great video, thankyou mate. I'm an apprentice carpenter in Sydney, 2 years in, and am finding roofing to be very interesting, challenging and rewarding. Videos like this are really helping me learn by seeing different ideas and approaches to roofing.
What a PHENOMENAL video...you are a gifted teacher, and this was the best explanation I've seen on framing a hip roof. I'm a framing junkie, but have never known how to frame this type of roof. I downloaded the Construction Master™ Pro app for my iPhone, and was able to follow along easily. Thank you!
OMG I have watched countless videos about roof framing and this is the best one I have ever seen. Maybe it all just finally sank in, I don't know...but I understand finally how to do this. THANK YOU!
THANK YOU! By 3:30 I got all the info I needed. I'm a union carpenter with 30 yrs experience but I rarely frame roofs. Just needed a quick layout review. You nailed it. Best roof framing video I've seen. Nice and concise
Although I/we here in the UK set out and mark our hip and jack rafters differently, I still think you do a really great job of clearly explaining how you guys do it in the US 🇺🇸. I also think the way you describe and demonstrate how the different angles apply to the different parts of the roof are very clear and apply to roof construction however you do it. 👍 Great work.
this is informational knowledge gold. I appreciate you so much man, It is so obvious those people that truly know the material vs people who watched a couple youtube videos and decided they were now expert enough to teach other people but the ease and way you put together a demo of a skill is very apparent when its just something you deeply know. It is hard to find quality people like you who will take the time to teach numbers and number skills as it is difficult (again, unless you really know the material) so anyways, long story long, just want to offer a truly genuine appreciation of your efforts it came up at just the right time when I had this task at hand and man, there is a lot of people on youtube over complicating things, giving weird unrealistic info that no one would actually do in real life if they had any idea why they were doing what they were doing. Posted this two years ago but its still very valuable thank you a million.
Although we generally set out and measure our hips and jack rafters differently here in the UK, for anyone wanting to try and understand better the 'American' way of doing it, this is a fantastically well presented and easy to follow video. Cheers👍
I'm retired now and did not get the chance to cut many roof's. Very well explained. For whatever reason, I'm revisiting how to do hip roof's. When I was a kid Dad showed me how to step off rafters. I used the calculator you're using here. Or Reichers book. Thanks for posting.
I am going to build a small Pool house/ gazebo and I want a hip roof on it. You are helping to give me some courage but will watch several more times. Thanks for taking the tone to educate us!!
Not to take away from this informative video but I built a rectangular shed with a hip roof. I found a program on line that you input all your dimensions and I printed out layout and cutting templates for my miter saw. The results were amazing and didn't waist any wood.
This is a great video! I took roofing classes in the past, but this by far is a much clearer illustration than anything I learned in class. Thanks for posting this video.
Bro God bless you. From pacific PACIFIC Papua New Guinea, we obviously use imperial but metric is our daily expression. I from a REMOTE rural DIY ,Really appreciate your brief lectures. Especially modeling out with lines to complement questions on on how materials and numbers plus lines would justify perfectly . Awesome !
Great video !! I have a question. Around 3:12 , the facial cut, how you determined the 4 inches facial? Does it have to do with the width of the rafter you are working with? Please elaborate. Thank you.
thank you for your explaining of how to measure, calculate and cut the rafter, which helps to solve my question for my carpentry class a lot. best regards!!!
Thanks for video, I learned without this special calculator, basically the Pythagorean theorem - a common rafter run is 12”, a hip is 17” run -this concept is understandable-learn the method or learn the calculator.
I have been watching roofing videos for many many years but, you are the only one who shows and explains exactly what and how it must be done. If there is a way I could send you two pictures of my roofing problem, would you please be able to show me or explain how I can repair them?
This is the first rime I was able to understand the proper way to measure and cut hip/valley rafters thank you for your patience in explaining the way to simplify the process
I watched a few of these videos before tackling a roof and valley I’m a builder but not a carpenter did ok some of the cuts weren’t great. But it worked and think I would do better if I did it again. Got a hip to do pretty soon that’s why I’m watching today
Very helpful. I’m adding an attached lean to shed to my house and will build the roof with these hips to match the existing structure. You probably saved me a few days and a dozen boards!
Great video easy to understand. The only part I need a little more explaining for is for the jack rafters you said the calculator does not take into consideration for the thickness of the hip. You said to add 7/16ths to the length of each jack but how did you get that number. To add to jack length Thanks
Great video. Framing a hip roof for a gazebo I'm building and this has helped a lot (only had to watch it about 10 times before having all of it really sink in, LOL). Question: I am tackling my tiki bar hip roof next. Want to do a 12" overhang on the back and right side and a 24" overhang on the front and left side. How should I tackle where the 12" and 24" overhangs come together? I was thinking of having the hip rafter stop short where a fascia board would line up (in the horizontal) with the closest jack rafters on each side of the hip. Your thoughts?
Pythagorean theorem for the new rise to run on the hip. The hip is a lower angle than the common rafter. Therefore, it’s not a 6/12 rise to run when you evaluate it from a 2D plane.
@@seanpchouston the hypotenuse on a right angled triangle is the sum of the sq of the other two side. 12x12=144+144=288 the sq root of 288 is 16.97, so use 17
Love your videos. Clear, concise and to the point. I have one question. When cutting the hip rafters you change the pitch from 6 - 12 to 6 -17. Does that apply to any pitch? For example would I use the same run (17) for a 5 -12 or a 4 -12? So 5 -17 or 4 -17 in this example.
Thanks Paul! Yes, any pitch. A valley or hip rafter always has a unit run of 17". Did you see part 2 of this video yet? ua-cam.com/video/c2KrU2b1EJI/v-deo.html
5:20, how did you come up with those 5in? Every video I've watched about hip roofs they never explain how the king rafter is figured out I think that's the the trickiest, then jack rafters then common rafters, I wonder why they never explain king jacks in more detail
This is such a good video filled with clearly presented, useful information that I regret there's only one like to give. Thanks for sharing, looking forward for more :)
I’ve seen a few of these videos and enjoy watching them. I dream of the day I can pitch a roof this accurately, but onsite, there are so many other variables to consider. However, you clearly know your stuff! Please make a video onsite showing how to pitch a hipped roof, with unequal pitches, unequal hip angles and pitched over wall plates that the bricklayers laid 🤦♂️
Good informative video , i have a question about the hip rafters thought - the height above plate is 4 1/16 when cutting c cut then adjusting for rafter drop doesn't that throw it off level / straight with the roof rafters ? would that not also not throw out jack rafters being level / straight with the rafters also thanks Terry
The drop actually helps the common rafters to line up with top edge of the hip... some people like to chamfer the top edge of the hip instead of dropping it.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy Thanks , i just got the 4 installed - had a lot of trouble since each one was a little different - on a bigger structure 12 x16 pavilion using 2x6 rafters 2x8 hips it was hard to get everything exact - love to see a video out there how to compensate for things not being 100% square -- your video was great BTW - without it no way i could have gotten this far - now its on to the jacks thanks again Terry
I've always been confused by this, however today was a turning page to understanding the process. I was able to make some solid connections for the first time which will allow for more future progress (will definitely be watching more than once lol). - Thank you so much for your explosive tutorial and phenomenal content! ✔️🔨💯🍉🌴⭐
Thank you for your video. You showed a "great tutorial" and I have learned some basic from it. I am retired and I would not do any roofing works. But, I tried to learn rafter skills to build a greenhouse.
Top notch video. You explain things very clearly. I’m building a hip roof on a new gazebo build and this explains what I need to do to a T. Thanks very much for your help. I subscribed to your channel.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy how do I figure out the angle.of the hips if I don't know the pitch of my dad's roof? Can I just find a old one and trace it and get a angle finder or speed square
You explained it correctly good job. Not sure why nobody backs there hips anymore, especial on 4 x hips, instead of dropping the hip. Only takes another 15 minutes or so. I have not watched any other videos, another trick, if you don't know this ,, for a cut that is over 45 degrees on the saw, lets say 60 degrees.. you can first cut a 45 and than a 15 to get 60.
Thank you .share your video.May I ask a question.I saw another video .when he had calculated the length of hip rafter .then he well shortened the length by one half 45 degree of the ridge board thickness.Is that right.I appreciate you again.
Shortening is half the 45 degree thickness of the ridge board if you are doing a single side cut attaching to the ridge. However, if you are doing a double sided cut (like in the video), it's half the 45 degree thickness of the common rafter. Great question!!
Thanks for the video, what would be the pitch of hip if I have to use 12x4 pitch, in your video I seen 17x6 for the hip, how do I figure this out for my hip for the roof pitch of 12x4, thanks for your advice.
You gave me enough information and courage to make my own patio shed. Do I need Rafter Ties or Ceiling Joists for 12X16 size shed? Could you please make a video on Rafter Ties Versus Ceiling Joists . Thank you again for your time and effort.
Great question. No, you can not use Pythagorean theorem because this is a valley rafter which has a unit run of 17" and not 12". Honestly, the best way to do valleys is let them run long and cut them after the fact. :)
Fantastic video!! So on a regular hip, my bevel on the jack rafters is always a 45? Like on a 10 pitch roof, which is 40° would my jack rafters be a 45° bevel or 40°?
The pitch is not just a matter of personal preference, it must take into account the weather of the place. The more snow you get on average, the higher the pitch. It is a good tip to match the pitch of the houses around you.
Hi, do you always need to drop the hip in this way? And if so is it just for standard hip roofs (pitch the same on all sides) or does it also apply to irregular hip roofs with say two different pitches? Thank you
Thanks for this content. So it appears with the construction calculator you use no adjustment is needed for the hip concerning shortening distance? The only adjustment needed is for Jack rafters?
Great video. Do you have a video of how to frame a deck roof attached to the ranch house roof. I really want to see it in order to DIY my own deck project. Thanks in advance.
This is more of a question but let me say these videos are excellent. I'm building a hip roof on my boat house area and am wondering if the common rafters must meet at the end of the ridge board. The length of my ridge board does not easily divide by 16", so somewhere there will be a space less than 16" along the span. Hopefully this makes sense. Thanks.
You showed us the steps to do this calculation 1:35 in the basic common rafter video, and I was getting the same numbers as you were. Now, for this video using your Construction Calc, your result is 26'' , while my TI calc (30XA) shows 24'' I found this issue earlier today in a different video on a common rafter and hip rafter video, as he was using a construction calculator as well, I kept getting a about an inch difference. For your video, my steps are; 23.25'' squared + 6'' squared = , then square root of ,and the result comes up 24.011'' not the 26'' that your construction calculator shows. Is there something obvious that I'm missing?
Hello. Your numbers are off because you are using the TOTAL run (23.25") and the UNIT (rise of 6"). You can't use both a total measurement and a unit measurement in that calculation. I hope that makes sense. This video talks about unit numbers. ua-cam.com/video/kR6kGufeKIU/v-deo.html
@@TrainingHandsAcademy Thanks much, I had gotten it right following your 'Beginner rafter layout' , I somehow lost the 'Unit' aspect of the calculations. I see now that I was confusing the entering of the 'total run' (minus 1/2 the frame board width) being imputed into the Construction calculator, here @ 1:27. Since I'm using a 'standard' calculator instead of a construction calculator, I need to remember to include 'unit' numbers, not total run number as you mentioned. Thanks again.
What do you do if your building isn't perfectly the same length both directions of the hip? Say one side is 120" and the other one to the king rafter center is 80"? Is there a way to calculate this hip and jack rafters with the construction master calculator?
I just found your videos and they're awesome! One question on this video, though. When you laid out the hip rafter you changed the guide on the square from 12 inches to 17 inches. How did you know to move it those 5 inches? Where did the 5 inch change come from?
im genuinly wondering. where did you get the 7/16 number to add to the end of the jack rafters? your hit is 1 1/2 inches wide. half of that is 3/4 right? does the 45 degeree angle change something im missing?
This was perfect. Currently I'm in my 2nd year Carpentry Apprenticeship and our teacher is confusing me slightly with hup rafter cuts. He's telling us to measure 1 13/16ths from the first plumb line and from our fascia line to measure back 2 1/8th and then 3/4 on each side of the lines for our cuts. It's a 10/12 roof and it's 42" by 30". Any way you can simplify this?
Very nice videos on roof rafters. I will be building adding a hip roof porch to my house. I have a question. The porch will be 14' wide and extend 10' from the house. Based on a simple 2D drawing I did, at 14' wide the hip rafters would not connect to the house because they would run into each other. I need at least 2 common rafters for the hips to attach to. The number of hip rafters determine the width of the horizontal flat that is up against the house. Is it strictly aesthetics that determine the number of commons rafters or are there a structural considerations I need to be aware of? Thanks in advance.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy Thank you! I'm sorry to have wasted your time, as I watched the video right afterward sending the comment. Thank you for responding!
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I don’t know how you came into my feed but you are a magnificent teacher and speaker. Keep up the good work.
Sometimes the algorithms work as they should. Thanks for watching!
This was a great video, thankyou mate. I'm an apprentice carpenter in Sydney, 2 years in, and am finding roofing to be very interesting, challenging and rewarding. Videos like this are really helping me learn by seeing different ideas and approaches to roofing.
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the comment.
Thanks! I was able to put a hip roof over a small room with the help of your video.
Wow, nice work! Thank you very much!!
What a PHENOMENAL video...you are a gifted teacher, and this was the best explanation I've seen on framing a hip roof. I'm a framing junkie, but have never known how to frame this type of roof. I downloaded the Construction Master™ Pro app for my iPhone, and was able to follow along easily. Thank you!
WOW! Thank you for the encouraging words and gift!
I’m impressed with the quality of this class. This guy is no doubt one of the bests carpenters of US.
OMG I have watched countless videos about roof framing and this is the best one I have ever seen. Maybe it all just finally sank in, I don't know...but I understand finally how to do this. THANK YOU!
I'm glad it sank in!! :)
THANK YOU! By 3:30 I got all the info I needed. I'm a union carpenter with 30 yrs experience but I rarely frame roofs. Just needed a quick layout review. You nailed it. Best roof framing video I've seen. Nice and concise
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy the build!
Although I/we here in the UK set out and mark our hip and jack rafters differently, I still think you do a really great job of clearly explaining how you guys do it in the US 🇺🇸. I also think the way you describe and demonstrate how the different angles apply to the different parts of the roof are very clear and apply to roof construction however you do it. 👍 Great work.
Thanks for taking the time to comment! Cheers!
@@TrainingHandsAcademy 🤟😎
this is informational knowledge gold. I appreciate you so much man, It is so obvious those people that truly know the material vs people who watched a couple youtube videos and decided they were now expert enough to teach other people but the ease and way you put together a demo of a skill is very apparent when its just something you deeply know. It is hard to find quality people like you who will take the time to teach numbers and number skills as it is difficult (again, unless you really know the material) so anyways, long story long, just want to offer a truly genuine appreciation of your efforts it came up at just the right time when I had this task at hand and man, there is a lot of people on youtube over complicating things, giving weird unrealistic info that no one would actually do in real life if they had any idea why they were doing what they were doing. Posted this two years ago but its still very valuable thank you a million.
Thank you for the comment my friend. :)
Although we generally set out and measure our hips and jack rafters differently here in the UK, for anyone wanting to try and understand better the 'American' way of doing it, this is a fantastically well presented and easy to follow video. Cheers👍
Thank you for the comment my friend.
I'm retired now and did not get the chance to cut many roof's. Very well explained. For whatever reason, I'm revisiting how to do hip roof's. When I was a kid Dad showed me how to step off rafters. I used the calculator you're using here. Or Reichers book. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the comment!
I am going to build a small
Pool house/ gazebo and I want a hip roof on it. You are helping to give me some courage but will watch several more times.
Thanks for taking the tone to educate us!!
Let me know if you need help once you start building. :)
@@TrainingHandsAcademy thank you!!
I just built a gazebo with a hip roof after looking at your very well explained videos. The result is more than I expected. Thank you so much Josh!😊
Nice work! Thank you for taking the time to share your success with me.
If doing 24" oc instead of 16" oc on Jack rafters do I still add 7/16" please sir
@@dannyflanery7466 Yes for this same roof pitch.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy mine will be 4 /12 pitch add the same 7/16" ??
@@dannyflanery7466 Yes, it will be close to that number... cut one and see how it works
Not to take away from this informative video but I built a rectangular shed with a hip roof. I found a program on line that you input all your dimensions and I printed out layout and cutting templates for my miter saw. The results were amazing and didn't waist any wood.
I appreciate you sharing this. What's the program?
@@TrainingHandsAcademy Same Question
This has got to be the best video I've seen on how to build a hip roof And use the calculator Good job expert advice
Pythagoras would be proud
This is a great video! I took roofing classes in the past, but this by far is a much clearer illustration than anything I learned in class. Thanks for posting this video.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks!
Oh wow... thank you so much for the generous gift! Thank you!
Bro God bless you. From pacific PACIFIC Papua New Guinea, we obviously use imperial but metric is our daily expression. I from a REMOTE rural DIY ,Really appreciate your brief lectures. Especially modeling out with lines to complement questions on on how materials and numbers plus lines would justify perfectly .
Awesome !
Thank you so much for the blessing!
You do a very good job at teaching. On top of that there isnt what feels like an hour long of nonsense to get through to get to the info.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate the feedback!
great video, probably the clearest and simplest I've seen. Need a metric version of that calculator for the uk
Great video !! I have a question. Around 3:12 , the facial cut, how you determined the 4 inches facial? Does it have to do with the width of the rafter you are working with? Please elaborate. Thank you.
I understood that to be the width of the facia board.
thank you for your explaining of how to measure, calculate and cut the rafter, which helps to solve my question for my carpentry class a lot.
best regards!!!
Thanks for the comment. Good luck with class!
This is the best video ever, u just make a hip rafter and jack cut like a piece of cake. Thanks alot
Glad it was helpful.
Thanks for video, I learned without this special calculator, basically the Pythagorean theorem - a common rafter run is 12”, a hip is 17” run -this concept is understandable-learn the method or learn the calculator.
It's so greatly explained that I've been able of understanding relying on my poor English. Wonderful !. Regards from Buenos Aires
Glad to hear that!
I have been watching roofing videos for many many years but, you are the only one who shows and explains exactly what and how it must be done. If there is a way I could send you two pictures of my roofing problem, would you please be able to show me or explain how I can repair them?
I'll see what I can do... send them to josh@traininghandsacademy.com
brilliant video, i needed a bit of a refresher as im just building a hip roof on a pergola. thanks.
Glad it helped. Thanks for the comment friend.
thank you for your clear explanations , do you have videos for dormer roof ,?
Not at this time. Thanks for the comment.
Great video. I learned a very important thing today. When you want to build a roof call a professional!!!! Thanks it was still informative.
Ha! Thanks for watching.
This is the first rime I was able to understand the proper way to measure and cut hip/valley rafters thank you for your patience in explaining the way to simplify the process
Lol
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I watched a few of these videos before tackling a roof and valley I’m a builder but not a carpenter did ok some of the cuts weren’t great. But it worked and think I would do better if I did it again. Got a hip to do pretty soon that’s why I’m watching today
Very helpful. I’m adding an attached lean to shed to my house and will build the roof with these hips to match the existing structure. You probably saved me a few days and a dozen boards!
Enjoy the build Mick!
You're a wonderful teacher!! This helped me so much. Thank you!!
Thank you for saying so. Blessing to you and your family.
best explanation I've seen period
Great video easy to understand.
The only part I need a little more explaining for is for the jack rafters you said the calculator does not take into consideration for the thickness of the hip. You said to add 7/16ths to the length of each jack but how did you get that number. To add to jack length
Thanks
Hello. Please watch part 2 for that info. :)
Brilliantly explained! 55 and not done many roofs .
Glad you found it helpful
@@TrainingHandsAcademy @5:24 why change it to 17 in particular could 16 or 15 could've worked? thanks
@@willdoorfrancois2183Please watch part2 for 17" explanation
This was a great video you are a great teacher wish to see a video on laying out the wall for.
Coming soon!
Great video. Framing a hip roof for a gazebo I'm building and this has helped a lot (only had to watch it about 10 times before having all of it really sink in, LOL). Question: I am tackling my tiki bar hip roof next. Want to do a 12" overhang on the back and right side and a 24" overhang on the front and left side. How should I tackle where the 12" and 24" overhangs come together? I was thinking of having the hip rafter stop short where a fascia board would line up (in the horizontal) with the closest jack rafters on each side of the hip. Your thoughts?
Loved it i m doing my level 2 capantary and it helped alot thanks alot
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Thanks for a great video. At around 5:20 you change the run of the framing square. Will it always be to 17 or is there a calculation I need to make?
Hey Jo! It's 12" for all common rafters, and 17" for hip and valley rafters.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy But why is it 17"
Pythagorean theorem for the new rise to run on the hip. The hip is a lower angle than the common rafter. Therefore, it’s not a 6/12 rise to run when you evaluate it from a 2D plane.
@@seanpchouston the hypotenuse on a right angled triangle is the sum of the sq of the other two side. 12x12=144+144=288 the sq root of 288 is 16.97, so use 17
@@seanpchouston on your framing square , measure the distance between the 12s (hypotenuse), its actually 16- 31/32" or 16.97 inches.
Love your videos. Clear, concise and to the point. I have one question. When cutting the hip rafters you change the pitch from 6 - 12 to 6 -17. Does that apply to any pitch? For example would I use the same run (17) for a 5 -12 or a 4 -12? So 5 -17 or 4 -17 in this example.
Thanks Paul! Yes, any pitch. A valley or hip rafter always has a unit run of 17". Did you see part 2 of this video yet? ua-cam.com/video/c2KrU2b1EJI/v-deo.html
Best vid on this subject by far! Thank you!
Glad you think so!
Well explained man i have learn so much in this video
Hello, thanks for the video. What is the perfect angle for hip roof wothout use roof space for live or something
I learned so much from your videos. Thank you!
Thanks for coming back to watch!
Love the way you make it so simple.
Glad you like it!
Hello, I like you explain, how about making one side high roofing, and the other side is lower. Hope to see you soon. Thank you
You make it look easy. Thanks
One of the best clear explanations I have seen ,thankyou
5:20, how did you come up with those 5in? Every video I've watched about hip roofs they never explain how the king rafter is figured out I think that's the the trickiest, then jack rafters then common rafters, I wonder why they never explain king jacks in more detail
Watch part two please... I explain it. Let me know if that helps.
This is such a good video filled with clearly presented, useful information that I regret there's only one like to give. Thanks for sharing, looking forward for more :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much, I liked the way how you teach. I learned some thing very interestig today. Greetings from Belize.
I’ve seen a few of these videos and enjoy watching them.
I dream of the day I can pitch a roof this accurately, but onsite, there are so many other variables to consider. However, you clearly know your stuff!
Please make a video onsite showing how to pitch a hipped roof, with unequal pitches, unequal hip angles and pitched over wall plates that the bricklayers laid 🤦♂️
Would love to do that at some point.
Yep, that's where I'm at. This wall that creates the utility room has a 5" drop over 20' FOR NO REASON.
JC are you planning to stand a 12MW wind turbine on that roof, look at the size of those rafters 😂 bit overkill mate
Good informative video , i have a question about the hip rafters thought - the height above plate is 4 1/16 when cutting c cut then adjusting for rafter drop doesn't that throw it off level / straight with the roof rafters ? would that not also not throw out jack rafters being level / straight with the rafters also thanks Terry
The drop actually helps the common rafters to line up with top edge of the hip... some people like to chamfer the top edge of the hip instead of dropping it.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy Thanks , i just got the 4 installed - had a lot of trouble since each one was a little different - on a bigger structure 12 x16 pavilion using 2x6 rafters 2x8 hips it was hard to get everything exact - love to see a video out there how to compensate for things not being 100% square -- your video was great BTW - without it no way i could have gotten this far - now its on to the jacks
thanks again Terry
Wow. You're the Framing G.
I've always been confused by this, however today was a turning page to understanding the process.
I was able to make some solid connections for the first time which will allow for more future progress (will definitely be watching more than once lol).
- Thank you so much for your explosive tutorial and phenomenal content!
✔️🔨💯🍉🌴⭐
Awe, so glad you are learning new things. Be sure to watch all my other rafter videos because they show many different methods.
Thank you for your video. You showed a "great tutorial" and I have learned some basic from it. I am retired and I would not do any roofing works. But, I tried to learn rafter skills to build a greenhouse.
Have you done a video on scarf joint? If not, would you do one?
Top notch video. You explain things very clearly. I’m building a hip roof on a new gazebo build and this explains what I need to do to a T. Thanks very much for your help. I subscribed to your channel.
Awesome, thank you!
This is a great video, I just had a oat tree fall on my house due to Huricane Ida and i have to rebuild part of my roof.
Oh no! Let me know if you have future questions. God Speed.
@@TrainingHandsAcademy just learning as I go. I learned how to frame up a wall, sheath it, sister common rafters, and hip pieces. Very rewarding....
@@TrainingHandsAcademy how do I figure out the angle.of the hips if I don't know the pitch of my dad's roof? Can I just find a old one and trace it and get a angle finder or speed square
@@Krumholt Sure you can totally do that to find the pitch.
You explained it correctly good job. Not sure why nobody backs there hips anymore, especial on 4 x hips, instead of dropping the hip. Only takes another 15 minutes or so. I have not watched any other videos, another trick, if you don't know this ,, for a cut that is over 45 degrees on the saw, lets say 60 degrees.. you can first cut a 45 and than a 15 to get 60.
Thanks for sharing Robert.
Thank you .share your video.May I ask a question.I saw another video .when he had calculated the length of hip rafter .then he well shortened the length by one half 45 degree of the ridge board thickness.Is that right.I appreciate you again.
Shortening is half the 45 degree thickness of the ridge board if you are doing a single side cut attaching to the ridge. However, if you are doing a double sided cut (like in the video), it's half the 45 degree thickness of the common rafter. Great question!!
Thanks for the video, what would be the pitch of hip if I have to use 12x4 pitch, in your video I seen 17x6 for the hip, how do I figure this out for my hip for the roof pitch of 12x4, thanks for your advice.
It would be 17x4
You gave me enough information and courage to make my own patio shed. Do I need Rafter Ties or Ceiling Joists for 12X16 size shed? Could you please make a video on Rafter Ties Versus Ceiling Joists . Thank you again for your time and effort.
@8:20 Can you use Pythagorean theorem to determine the overhang? I’m getting 7.8 and the calculator you are using is saying 7.5.
Great question. No, you can not use Pythagorean theorem because this is a valley rafter which has a unit run of 17" and not 12". Honestly, the best way to do valleys is let them run long and cut them after the fact. :)
Fantastic video!! So on a regular hip, my bevel on the jack rafters is always a 45? Like on a 10 pitch roof, which is 40° would my jack rafters be a 45° bevel or 40°?
Yes, one of the compound angles will be 45 degrees.
The pitch is not just a matter of personal preference, it must take into account the weather of the place. The more snow you get on average, the higher the pitch. It is a good tip to match the pitch of the houses around you.
Very true!
Hi, do you always need to drop the hip in this way? And if so is it just for standard hip roofs (pitch the same on all sides) or does it also apply to irregular hip roofs with say two different pitches?
Thank you
Is there a easy way to know where the 45• angle will be for the Jack rafters
This is a great video if you have ever had question about how to do this, this video is one of the best out there|
Good
Thanks for this content. So it appears with the construction calculator you use no adjustment is needed for the hip concerning shortening distance?
The only adjustment needed is for Jack rafters?
Correct.
Great video. Do you have a video of how to frame a deck roof attached to the ranch house roof. I really want to see it in order to DIY my own deck project. Thanks in advance.
Sorry, I don't
If ordering for example 8x2 frame/wall plate and 8x2 ridge would I need 6x2 for the common rafters and 6x2 for the hip rafters and 8x2 for the jacks?
This is more of a question but let me say these videos are excellent. I'm building a hip roof on my boat house area and am wondering if the common rafters must meet at the end of the ridge board. The length of my ridge board does not easily divide by 16", so somewhere there will be a space less than 16" along the span. Hopefully this makes sense. Thanks.
Yes makes sense. That is perfectly fine.
Can the same process be done for a open valley rafter for example on a gable dormer? If not can you do a video on it please
Yes, valley and hip rafters are basically the same. I really do need to do a video on valley rafters!
This is the best video on here about this subject! Now it’s time to buy one of them calculators! Thank you!
o ajuste de 7/16 nos jack´s , varia para outras espessuras do hip ?
Outstanding! I have thoroughly enjoyed this video and have learned much! Many thanks. Semper Fi
Glad it was helpful!
Could U make a video on valley rafters
13:27 eres el mejor de todos los que he visto. 👍
You showed us the steps to do
this calculation 1:35 in the basic
common rafter video, and I was getting
the same numbers as you were.
Now, for this video using your Construction
Calc, your result is 26'' ,
while my TI calc (30XA)
shows 24''
I found this issue
earlier today in a different video on a common
rafter and hip rafter video, as he was using
a construction calculator as well, I kept getting
a about an inch difference.
For your video, my steps are;
23.25'' squared + 6'' squared = , then square
root of ,and the result comes up 24.011'' not the
26'' that your construction calculator shows.
Is there something obvious that I'm missing?
Hello. Your numbers are off because you are using the TOTAL run (23.25") and the UNIT (rise of 6"). You can't use both a total measurement and a unit measurement in that calculation. I hope that makes sense. This video talks about unit numbers. ua-cam.com/video/kR6kGufeKIU/v-deo.html
@@TrainingHandsAcademy
Thanks much, I had gotten it
right following your 'Beginner
rafter layout' , I somehow lost
the 'Unit' aspect of the calculations.
I see now that I was confusing
the entering of the 'total run'
(minus 1/2 the frame board width)
being imputed into the Construction
calculator, here @ 1:27.
Since I'm using a 'standard'
calculator instead of a construction
calculator, I need to remember to
include 'unit' numbers, not total run
number as you mentioned.
Thanks again.
helping with my apprenticeship thank you
You are choosing a fantastic profession Nick! Best of luck!
What do you do if your building isn't perfectly the same length both directions of the hip? Say one side is 120" and the other one to the king rafter center is 80"? Is there a way to calculate this hip and jack rafters with the construction master calculator?
Can you do valleys and bastard hips and valleys? Great explanations!
Such a great way of explaining!
Glad you think so Brandon. :)
@@TrainingHandsAcademy Brilliant!
Great information, smart idea to break it down into chapters. That is very helpful... Thanks
Love this tutorial,thanks for sharing brother !!!👍🏻🇺🇲🇬🇺
My pleasure! Thank you for taking the time to comment.
Made perfect sense! What a great resource!
Glad you think so!
I just found your videos and they're awesome! One question on this video, though. When you laid out the hip rafter you changed the guide on the square from 12 inches to 17 inches. How did you know to move it those 5 inches? Where did the 5 inch change come from?
Hi, please watch part 2. :)
Do you have a Video with out using the calculator ? Like quick and easy life hacks ? And how did you get a run of 17 ?
im genuinly wondering. where did you get the 7/16 number to add to the end of the jack rafters? your hit is 1 1/2 inches wide. half of that is 3/4 right? does the 45 degeree angle change something im missing?
Please watch part two
This was perfect. Currently I'm in my 2nd year Carpentry Apprenticeship and our teacher is confusing me slightly with hup rafter cuts. He's telling us to measure 1 13/16ths from the first plumb line and from our fascia line to measure back 2 1/8th and then 3/4 on each side of the lines for our cuts. It's a 10/12 roof and it's 42" by 30". Any way you can simplify this?
Sorry I can't. There are so many different ways to cut rafters... be sure to ask him/her for clarification in the next class. Thanks for reaching out.
Very nice videos on roof rafters. I will be building adding a hip roof porch to my house. I have a question. The porch will be 14' wide and extend 10' from the house. Based on a simple 2D drawing I did, at 14' wide the hip rafters would not connect to the house because they would run into each other. I need at least 2 common rafters for the hips to attach to. The number of hip rafters determine the width of the horizontal flat that is up against the house. Is it strictly aesthetics that determine the number of commons rafters or are there a structural considerations I need to be aware of? Thanks in advance.
When cutting the hip rafter, what information do you use to go from 12 to 17 on your framing square?
please watch part 2
Exactly what I was thinking 👀
How did you know to add 7/16" to the 8 1/8"? Is that a standard (7/16") for Jack Rafters?
I made part 2 here to explain the 7/16. ua-cam.com/video/c2KrU2b1EJI/v-deo.html
@@TrainingHandsAcademy
Thank you! I'm sorry to have wasted your time, as I watched the video right afterward sending the comment. Thank you for responding!
@@aladincarpetcleaning6416 No problem, glad you found the answer. :)
I sure wish you did a video on layout for wall framing in detail.
Coming soon!
great detail. thanks for the time and information
My pleasure. God Bless you and your family.
I finally understand…. Buy a construction calculator and you don’t need to memorize formulas, thanks for the tips! I actually learned something.