Robin's Rafter Trick - Carpentry Hack
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2019
- Robin proudly shows off one of his favourite carpenter hack techniques with his rafter template!
This is part of our 'how to create a pitched roof' video which you can see here: • How to Build a Pitched...
We'll have more woodworking tips and hacks from Robin Clevett soon.
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We used to have lots of intelligent craftsmen not too long ago. Now when you're clever, they tell you not to work with your hands but sit in an office somewhere. A university degree is the highest achievement there is, they say. There is a great need for people who like to work with their hands and can think for themselves. Thanks for showing us Robin.
@@retardedamericans1 That trick of taking what someone says and then adding "Are you saying" before making your own statement is a verbal trick intended to trap someone into arguing a point they did not make. You should find another sport. Of course he is not saying that.
His premise is clear and well stated. Society tells people who show signs of being clever to pursue another career and that acts as a filter. The building industry suffers as a consequence of this.
Absolutely agree. I have a degree and am now a maths teacher. For the last 2 years I’ve been going to college and have earned a City and Guilds L2 Carpentry Diploma. For a degree and subsequent office job you need to be docile and compliant. It has very little to do with intelligence. It’s a real shame that we view manual work as low skilled. I use my brain doing Carpentry far more than any of the office jobs I ever had.
@@thecuttingsark5094 couldnt agree more
Love it Robin! The Bible says..... " Have you seen a man skillful at his work ? He will stand before Kings , He will not stand before common men. " .....also, consider this prophecy in Scripture....." They will build houses and live in them, And they will plant vineyards and eat their fruitage, ........ Proverbs 22 :29 and Isaiah 65:21 Highest Regards, Lisa
@@thecuttingsark5094 yes I agree all the buildings in the early years 1800 etc builders,well I know Bricklayers could not read and some could not write,and look at all the amazing buildings in town centres churches cathedrals etc,not many if any were not educated 🤔
I just love watching you work Robin!
You clearly know your game!!
Cracking little jig. I make my template raffter out of ply to save lugging around an 8x2 or similar. Will definitely use this idea on my next roof. Keep up the good work Robin.
More like this please!
prime example of working smarter not harder, but then again construction is always hard work so every bit of ingenuity helps the hard work along nicely, well done
One of the best thing I have learned! Thank you so much for sharing!
Robin and Roger ... what a great team.
Robin I have to say your a Top quality Carpenter. Very neat and stop on. 👍👏
dirty girl you meant .. ‘spot on’!
@@RI-uv3lm ha yea . Thanks Rajesh
Robins masterclass ! MORE PLEASE SIR .
Nice time saving trick and higher accuracy also. I will use this. Thank you for the video.
That's the beauty of a template massive time saver and all the parts are same (great job) !!
Amazing idea. Cheers Robin!
Nice trick! But i guess you forget to mention the best thing about it...
If you reference off of the edge of the beam, you’ll be in trouble if there is bow in the wood. By using this method you have your ‘straight’ referenced off of the template. Much better!
Thanks Robin!
Brilliant, exactly what I need for an upcoming job!
"Buy my skills and my knowledge" you said it brother! We're artists, and it takes years of education, hard work and experience to learn our crafts.
Nice jig by the way!
Robin i bet u got shed loads of these ideas....u gotta share em with us mear mortals...ive used the 1 with cuttin angles on a table saw so simple but pure genious...u legend👍
Great vid, many thanks for posting.
Great video again more like this please
I have done this to do repetition cuts . Your space for the saw was really good. Whe I did I did it I got slagged off for waste of material (ply) but those people never come and say they were wrong. Two marking videos and I'm subscribed . That marking is key. You are good mate.
It's master class Robin and Roger thank you for your wonderful work
Excellent Video, Very well explained.
Few years back.. Fortunately, I met someone, a Woodworking mentor, who improved my life.
Keep up the good work! Will wait for your next video.
I really love the way you share your knowledge to improve the industry, we need some of this in OZ. Cheers
Brilliant video Robin!
Cheers Stakker!!!
Very nice idea. Well done
Robin just may make it as a carpenter one day...lol....Nice advice as always.
Great idea. Well done Robin.
I’d give my right arm to be taught how to cut a roof by you Robin. Absolute class! I may not be able to cut a roof afterwards having one arm mind but being able to pass on that knowledge would be almost as good! As always great videos mate!
Fantastic mate
Farkin' brilliant, dude.
Very creative - Thanks !
great one as always. thank you good man.
Brilliant, not just a carpenter but a thinker too! 👍
I like it, great idea.
Excellent idea!
Great idea for the template with a circular saw-probably a lot more applications for a template for a battery saw. On a separate issue, you asked me to let you know if I bought the Metabo battery table saw when we met at FFX Tool show. After some deliberation, we could see that the guide fence on the saw was always going out of square each time it was moved-a problem we had with our previous site saw. I bought the DeWalt DWE7485 which has a pinion based side fence which seems to keep square without any effort.
We do that type of template for cedar rafter roofs, or octagon roof systems when you need to be perfect. Nice job across the pond..!
Send some pictures Joe. We are very keen to see what you are up to in Cape Cod
I love the way six people have given this the "Thumbs Down". There are some tools out there that Dewalt dont make...
Hi Mark
We are really amused by the way we get the thumbs down on every single video we make. There are people out there who find fault with everything and I can't imagine they are fun to live with.
Haha good one Mark.
@@SkillBuilder No I guess that's more from people who don't want your videos recommended by that UA-cam algorithm. Nothing to do with the quality or content of your videos, which are outstanding. But it's a very negative apporoach to click thumbs down all the time, agreed.
Love it !!!!!
If only more builders had such a positive attitude the whole trade would have a better reputation. Cheers for showing me a new idea.
Thanks Tony, funnily enough, we have a podcast going out tonight all about attitude and work ethics.
👍Smooth as well clever trick first class tradesman👍
Top man!
Great idea 👍👍👍
I use Milwaukee! The saw blade is in the left hand side of the motor so you can see the blade cutting 👍🏻
Genius!
I just scab 2 blocks of 4x2( at the plumb cut and birds mouth) onto the outside of the template rafter ..pull it in mark up ...left blade wormdrive and cut . Great video !!
I must try a worm drive!!! I also do your trick!!
Awesome , really like this .......................
Incredibly well explained and presented. Enjoyed watching a 2nd time.
08:10 best bit!
Roger asking what we are all thinking! It doesn't make sense and how's that going to work!
Freaking proper smart👍
i wish id seen this video 25 years ago !
very well though out method
Seafty googles aren't safe when you didn't see through them.
Thank you for another great tip video.
I like it !
This program is much better than the one about that old house.
I like it! Pattern/templates are only good when wall plates and purlin's are bang on level, plumb and parallel, am I right? Gonna be using this tip on my next (big) roof! Thank you!
Nice
Nice!
that's one way to do it. Cheers.
I have no arms due two a works accident but would love for you to show me how two cut in these roofing beams. Sometimes I have too headbutt nails in it hurts but it gets the job done.!!
You're an artist Sir Robin
I had no idea what you were doing by tracing your saws base, lol. What a great idea
Chainsaws are ace for framing roofs!!!!.
great videos, ive picked up a trick or two watching them, it must be an honor to work with the Duke of Windsor, dont let him drive the van..
We use a piece of scrap of whatever we are using for rafters, cut one side with the pitch run down about a foot cut the birds beak with rafter tail. It's about two feet long. Great for when cutting jack rafters. Or we cut one rafter make sure it fits perfect. Mark it as the template and scribe the rest with that.
Sir Robin, I say sir Robin because you're top quality and if things go well I'm inviting you to Jamaica to put a second floor on a small house my late mother left for me, so keep on keeping on.💙👊😎
Robin will be up for that, won't you Robin?... Robin where are you?
@@SkillBuilder thanks for the support.💙👊😎
I love this idea. For myself though i know I should write an arrow down next to the guide edge so i know which direction to cut. Sometimes when im cutting alot production style i switch directions between cuts to keep my movement down but if i did that on the end cut here my rafter could be a couple inches too short.
Thank you. How to calculate the corner rafter if the outline of the house has angles not 90 degrees?
I'm a little surprised by the over cut, I don't allow that on my jobs. But the jig is an amazing thought by itself. Never over cut a rafters birds mouth or allow it on stairs stringers either. The concept of this video is brilliant.
A small overcut on a rafter that size and span is nothing. People shit themselves over this and it's really really not a big deal.
@@dimebagdarrel00 Sorry dude, you're just not that professional, I'd fire you at the end of the day.
You already had a template ! , The time it took you to make that thing you could have done half of them already !
Q “What are you gonna do with that time”
A “record a bloody podcast!”
Love it!!!
How come I never get brilliant builders to come round and work on my House like Roger and Robin. Imagine if they turned up at your front Door. I’d be straight on my nee’s saying there is a God.
Ronnie Wilson oh! Mate, you're not the only one who thinks that way, had our kitchen revamped last year and when they finished it was in a worse mess than when they started absolute Cowboys! What I'd give for Roger to put it right....
Know your feeling - I'm DIYing an extension because I'm sick of looking at trades work and thinking "I could have done that better". Totally different watching this channel - I watched Robin's other roofing video last week and 1) He'd lost me within 5 minutes and 2) His work was impeccable
hermand Just remember the golden rule "Measure Twice, Cut Once" when ever there's a job to do around our home now I see if Roger has produced a video then once we're confident my wife & I tackle the job, I've got severe spinal injuries so I'm in a advisers roll
I think Ronnie Wilson has struck a cord.
I've just moved from Ewell to Southport and it's the same here.
Had an upstairs bay, rosemary tiles, and window changed. I thought I'd employ builder's for a proper job.
In all honesty, I wish I'd done it myself.
I ended up acting like the clerk of works, or a finishing foreman, chasing them up all the time.
Everybody always wants quality!!, but most aren’t willing to pay for it..!! The majority of potential New customers I meet balk at my prices.. Until they have been sufficiently screwed enough by ‘cheaper’ contractors!! Then they’re willing to pay anything to get the damage reversed..!
You’d think people would be more willing to pay more/hr for repairs & maintenance on their most valuable asset (their house for most people) than they would on their most expensive liability (for most, their vehicles)...
Nice job just hope the bricky set the wall plates square with ridge 🤪
Makita have a 36v blade left saw (not like worm drive one) not out in UK but think it's coming soon. Might help the old neck!
Henry J I’ve got it mate, imported from the states. £200 landed, well worth it!
that is very clever
Good to hear from you, how's the new workshop performing for you?
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Going great thnak you. Just wish it was twice as big.
When doing a cut roof that few hours prep work getting your wallplates straight and level .then your ridge level.you dont think your getting anywhere then as soon as the rafters are all cut the roo is up in no time . Theres just something immensly satisfying about it which you dont get from any other first fixing!
Agreed! It's so satisfying, Great comment!
What if your building or wall plate is slightly out and you needed to extend the plumb cut at the top
Hi Skillbuilder. I'm Dutch and I'm following your channel for a while now and I've seen all this rafter video's and I keep wondering about this type of roof construction. The thing is, that I've never seen this type of construction over here? In the Netherlands I've only seen pitch roof constructions with purlins, we call them "gordingen".
We have rafters, but mostly only one halfway for supporting the purlins for the long span.
Is this rafter type construction typically English or are other construction types used as well in Britain? Just curious. Greetings form the Netherlands.
That’s damn nifty!
Where can I buy a tool like yours at 3.10? Thank you so much your answer in advance! :)
Would love to see a video on hips and valleys
It's coming!!!!
Just a suggestion , buy a sidewinder saw (Skilsaw wormdrive) its designed for righties.
genius
Skill
An Excellent tutorial, is there a reason you could not clamp all your rafters together then run the saw at the angles you need or is this too fiddly do you think? I would love to see you do a flat resin roof from start to finish.
Clamping together is done a lot on the continent and it works really well. We should try it
just curious do Hikoki/hitachi sponsor you? Liking your videos by the way
They're very good tools!
By the time he built that , I could of bang out 30 rafters, great idea well done lads
That's because you're awesome Andy, keep that up!
Buy the Makita battery saw as the blades on the other side. No leaning over ;)
I have a couple of saws on the opposite side and sometimes combine the two to speed the process up!!
This guy is great. One thing I want to put out there. Problem with seeing the cut line. I found out the line matches up with the center of the safety blade cover. So instead of watching the blade, I look down the safety cover and keep it lined up with the line. Get less sawdust in my eyes.
I do something similar for my plumb and seat cuts for fascia and soffit. I’m make a saw track and screw a block at the appropriate angle then when I pull a string line thru tite I just line up the temp and clamp then cut them. I’d have to go along and mark them anyway so this saves a load of time on a big roof.
How do you not end up not cutting the string line?
DP JOINERY pull the line behind the track, it gets pretty decent results. I started doing it because I was fitting anthracite plastic fascia and it showed every single deviation along the 15 meter length
@@benchippy8039 but wouldn't pulling a taught string be difficult to do that? i don't doubt you whatsoever, but i'll be honest i haven't found a quicker method other than plumbing down with a boat level off the string.
DP JOINERY it’s not been an issue that I’ve noticed but I’ve only started doing it on the last 2 roofs, and the track/jig I’m running my saw down is only 60 mm or so. It has saved time on the large roof but it was more about getting that laser straight accuracy as the first roof I used it on was a bungalow with a loft conversion and when stood in the garden the fascia line is at eye level and having every foot cut at exactly the same angle was crucial in my opinion. I’ve been cutting to a plumb line forever and it’s never been an issue before recently
@@benchippy8039 i know how you mean, fascias look terrible at low level like a mexican wave some i've seen. If the spar feet are on a twist i usually cut them with a hand saw too.
Hey Ben Chippy i went on your page to see if you have any videos (the heading made me laugh)
Have you ever thought about making some? I wouldn't mind making some if i wasn't so camera shy and spoke proper English instead of proper Yorkshire.
Im no carpenter but coukdnt you of just got all 30 lenghts on a bench, strike a line where all cuts are, of course for each cut you'd have to modify your saw but youd be cutting all 30 at once? Obviously nail some batten through so theyre all level. Is this good or not?
Great tip.
New subscriber today my friend
nice one robin, i usually lay the pattern rafter on top as a template but this is a much better option ! fair play for sharing your knowledge, i do cut roofs quite frequently but i dont tell the other chippys much about how i do it lol
Why not stack them all in a row on edge, snap chalk lines for each cut then just gang cut all at once?
Try that yourself one time. You'll never try it again, you'll see why.
@@avgjoe-cz7cb it's how I cut them haha, what bit do you find hard?
🤠.....
I’m a huge fan of templates/patterns. But you just have to make sure there is enough repetitive work to be done to make the time spent and the cost of materials making it, worth the effort.
Cool 😎😃👏👏👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸!
Great trick. if you can can you do a review on those goggles ,that you were wearing they look like they would protect your eyes from any dust, so please share some info on that . God bless
Robert Gonzalez Can you show how to make the framing square Stop
@@victorboyd9881 I'd like to see that too!
Good job sir! Now do it in the pouring rain.
If you stack all your rafters together on edge you can cut all the bird mouth cuts at once. If you set the depth right they all fall out.
its a nice idea... but in reality in how often is the ridge board parallel to the wall plate. There will definitely be a time and place when making a template like this comes into its own though for sure.
Seat-cut is that the southern phrase for "foot-cut" I came across of college in the 80s?
There were loads of rafters already cut in the background before the template was made ?
Well done Sherlock. The sequence of filming is not always as it happens in real life. The cameraman had to go to the dentist. It happens and nothing about that changes the point of the video. You don't have to use the template
What a load of ploava.
I've been framing for 25 years. If I brought that on the job??¿?.
I rely on my hand skills.
But each to their own. A good video fellow Carpenter