My record cleaning ritual for new and used. 1. dry clean with painting edge pad to remove surface dust. 2. pre-rinse using vinyl style bath with just distilled water and brushes out putting wet records in drying rack up to 10 at a time. 3. dump old water and refill vinyl style with with my record cleaning mix and put brushes back in. 4. wash record per instruction and without removing orange label clamp I use the vinyl vac to remove water from both sides. 5 .place clean record in drying rack and repeat. first record in is completely dry by the time I fill last spot in drying rack. 10 LPs takes about 30 minutes give or take...time to listen to a record :) I leave the label protector clamp on which I then place the vinyl vac "wand" right next to the finger groove. having the clamp on allows me to hold and turn record with one hand while holding the vinyl vac wand with the other. I use a Milwaukee cordless vacuum with the VVac because it has perfect amount of low suction and very portable (and Cool) and its relatively quiet as far as wet/dry vacs go too. My record cleaning mix is 14oz distilled water - 2oz 99% pure isopropyl alcohol - 3-4 drops of Photo Flow wetting agent
Bought a plastic turntable spice rack (also called lazy Susan) for $5 at local grocery store, and placed a vinyl sleeve sized frame or square plate on top with a soft pillowcase placed over if anyone has items like this, being able to turn the disc as you clean to follow the grooves…game changer!
So glad I found your channel and these videos. There is a lot of opinions on record cleaning, but your methods just make sense. Thanks for doing what you do!
Enjoyed both your vinyl cleaning videos. As you mentioned in your first one, we all have our own styles and methods. In short, on an old turntable I set the record on it, I use a mixture of Tergikleen and distilled water in a squirt bottle, I push the liquid into the grooves using a 4 inch paint sponge. Then use a paint edger and go around both directions several times to get into the grooves and clean them. I take off the liquid (slowly) with the VinylVac hooked to a 5HP wet/dry vac. Follow that up with a rinse, using the same routine as above but with a mixture of Spin Clean (cap full) and distilled water in another squirt bottle, and another set of paint sponge and edger. Removed the same way by sucking the liquid out of the grooves with the VinylVac. Before my stylus plays any new to me record, new or used, it gets an excellent wet cleaning. Happy listening!
I use the groove washer to clean my records and it works great. I like to rinse my records off with a spray bottle filled with distilled water over the sink. Really spray them off good. Then a wipe with the micro fiber cloth and onto the drying rack. Cheers enjoyed the vid part 1 and 2.
I bought a Knosti cleaner even though I was somewhat sceptical about its abilities, but a Jethro Tull album that sounded like frying bacon is now silent, and others have improved immeasurably too. Very important to rinse after cleaning though, and allow to dry completely.
Clean mine with microfiber cloth.then a quick run through with the anti state brush then on my table to play.. usually only wet clean when they are real dirty..been doing it for over 40 years now..
Just got back into my vinyl, I suppose after just watching your first cleaning video on starting always dry - to stop making mud - you went straight ahead on the Rolling Stones record...wet. liked the advice though and want one of your mats.
Great way to go, thanks! I use your method with two mods; I work on a glass top table as glass hardly conducts, or stores any static electricity and always touch the metal cabinet of my tuner which is tied into the house ground to discharge any static I may have picked up before starting work.
Wet vac only my man. I have been into vinyl for 20 plus years and after watching another UA-camr show how to make your own wet vac system, the only way!
Bought an Okki Nokki Record Cleaning Machine and never looked back. Cleans all the gunk, fingerprints and other assorted debris right out of, and off, the grooves. Best investment a serious vinyl collector can make.
I've been told to always clean in the direction the record spins, never wipe anti clockwise as it creates negative charges but you wet wipe both ways, does this not create static problems?
The dirtiest records I find are used 45’s. To clean them , I use your dry cleaning methods, then for wet cleaning ( almost always essential with dirty / noisy 45’s) , I use paper towel soaked with distilled water and revolving them around one hand, applying pressure on both sides at the same time. The white paper towel frequently shows brown sludge removed using this method. I finish to dry with a clean cotton cloth or microfibre cloth . The grooves are wider/ deeper than microgroove LPs so clean soft cotton works well. The improvement in sound quality is staggering , removing most or all noise . Only 45’s damaged by stylus needles continue to sound less than ideal but ECB with this cleaning method, you can get significant improvements.
You are amazing! Thank you for all of the information for record care! Ladies & gentleman, do what I did and support this man if you’ve learned something from his videos. Fair prices and blitzkrieg shipping!
Very informative thank you! It's funny, I just got into records and thought I learned everything. But YOU sir, have that old dad experience. I'm on board!
I wish you guys would consider making those cleaning mats again, I want one so bad. I bought a foam mat for record cleaning from Amazon, but that puppy is a static making nightmare.
I use a carbon fibre brush but per your last video, doing it on the turntable itself may not be enough -- but I almost never see it get any dust anyways. I had washed a lot of my records in a cleaning system, but it's not a full basin -- similar but just between two brushes. Really not sure where to go from here -- I've been thinking about doing ultrasonic cleaning.
Cleaning fluid: 91% alcohol, distilled water and about 2 drops of dish detergent. (Recipe for the fluid on UA-cam, too.) The detergent does not build up, it helps to remove the dust. Spray the brush just enough to let it kill any static electricity. Clean the brush off between swipes along the groove. Keep wiping with the groove and cleaning the brush until the record shines.
didn't you just say to brush any dust off before liquid. And that Stones record is not in a poly jacket. Pulled ight out of the cardboard outer jacket. That's a good way of scratching up your favorite vinyl.
Hi! I use the dry, and wet method with itens that I have in my house, and it WORKS! My After the Rain LP was with 1 track skipping, and now its fine! also Keep the Faith was with a huge cracks, and its gone! Very thanks for your video. Salute from Brazil
Spin Clean rules. I use the old wire racks folks used to store lps and 45’s for my drying process. Killer find if you spot one. The short ones are for 45’s and there are taller ones for lp’s. The reason i say that is if you get the right one the wire frame hits right on the label so you’re not leaving bare wax on the wire frame to air dry. After them jokers are dry i give it a quick dustaroo and we are off to the races. In the past i worked at a high volume record shop and we ran a lot of lps through the vpi vac. When time is not a factor, i would prefer air drying to any vac system. Especially on my own records. Double especially on my 45’s.
How would you go about dust jackets and inner liners stuck onto vinyl. Long story short, I had returned to a holiday home only to find that at some point the basement had flooded and then dried itself out to a depth of 1.5 inches, my vinyls were stored upright in a card board box which was on the floor, but has since rehardened. I have not dared touch them since. Any advice on where to start with that one? all of you vids seem to be tacking dust, but have yet to see one tackling caked on dust jackets and inner liners! any advice greatly appreciated, many thanks for all your times'
Dust jackets are going to be tough to remove without damage. As for the inner sleeves, I would try dipping them quickly in some warm water, wait a while, and see if that causes them to loosen their grip. Good luck.
My dads collection of about 900 records became wet when he transported them in a trailer with what he thought was a rain proof cover, the covers are all warped and the records all are now smeared and dirty 😣but this is the first step in a long cleaning process, thanks.
thank you so much !! watched your first video as well as this one ; ive got some pretty dusty records left by a family memeber , and as a newbie to vynil i was scratching my head at all tha conflicting info ive heard about how to clean them . these videos were really helpful !! :D
Can you give me any tips on how to get the musty smell out of the album covers something when get a used one they smell that way. What i do is put the album just the cover in a wind between the screen and the glass a south facing window on dry cool and cold day.
Interesting. Musty records are kinda like wet dog smell, I guess. You either love it ... or it drives you freakin' crazy! I have tried using some diluted vinegar on a sponge (damp, not wet) and that seems to help. I like your approach to airing them out. The absolute worst are records from the house of a smoker. Almost impossible to get stale smoke smell out. Keep 'em spinning!
I read a post someplace about wet smelly tennis shoes . If you freeze them it kills the mold. (or knocks the smell down.) Maybe that might work with a paper jacket. Probably best tried in a manual defrost freezer. (but it might pick up the smells of the freezer , old chicken, lobster, fishes, neighbor's hot dish leftover etc).
I’m confused why you didn’t use a cover to protect the label. They sell them for a couple bucks and it’s just like a rubber thing that looks like a coaster. Also, I was recently told that the most important time to clean one’s records is when they are brand new, unopened, straight from the vinyl pressing plant. Apparently records are so dusty when they’re being packaged in a warehouse. From there it’s important to avoid putting the record back in the sleeve that the new record came in since all of that dust and those particles are in that sleeve. Immediately place the vinyl in a new sleeve and avoid using the sleeves that the record was in when it was opened for the first time. I tend to open the plastic that sealed the record, leave that plastic on and cover it with a cover. Next I’ll take the sleeves that the record came in and put them into the cover (if they’re a fancy sleeve, if it’s just a regular paper sleeve I throw it away.) Finally I put the clean records in the new sleeve and put them in the record cover with the opening facing left or right (to avoid dust from getting in the record while it’s not being used). This way I’m not damaging the cover whenever I pull the record out, it’s protected and it’s ready for use. Over the last 10 years this is the process I’ve found works the best, on top of that I’ve saved brand new unopened records from being destroyed when I play them for the first time… all that dust and rubbish from the new record was being jammed into the grooves causing permanent damage to the record and making sure the stylus doesn’t last nearly as long as it should have. I am not AT ALL one of the know it all record collectors who thinks that my way is the only way… quite the opposite. I’m actually telling you this hoping that maybe you can confirm that this method is a good method and if it isn’t then maybe you can give me advice on ways I can improve my cleaning method. My goal is to find the best way to keep my vinyl and my stylus in the best condition possible, NOT to be right. Please feel free to advise or correct anything you feel could improve this. Thanks!!!
Good questions. As for the label, they are not nearly as delicate as you would think. The paper is actually pressed into the vinyl (as opposed to being simply glued on). So, it is integrated into the record. Very hard to mess it up with water or cleaning fluid. But, by all means, if you are worried, you can use a label protector (but not required IMO). Cleaning a new record before first-play is a pro move, and I would def recommend it - especially given the atrociously bad quality control of today's pressing plants, which are working 24/7 to keep up with demand. Hope you will watch our newest vids on further protecting your records with a quality inner sleeve and outer sleeve. Keep 'em spinning!
The only question I have is.. It's there a trick to spray clean them without getting liquid on the label.. I noticed you just sprayed three label along with the record when cleaning but I'm just too worried about damaging the labels.. Is there a way of spraying without getting the labels wet? Thanks!
Hi my husband has just located his old vinyl records. They had been left outside in the yard in a box for over 40yrs. The record sleeves have disintegrated and stuck to the actual record. How should we begin to clean them? Unbelievable I said leaving them outside!
Yikes! I would literally wash them like a dirty dish. Warm water (distilled would be best) with just a drop or two of Dawn dishwashing soap. Use a clean microfiber cloth, but let the warm water do the heavy lifting. Rinse in fresh distilled water and let air dry. Good luck!
In my experience, there is not. Although I'm sure you'll ignite a firestorm with this query! That said, very often, a scratch is only a '"surface scratch" i.e., it does not go down into the grove where it will effect play. If it's not physically impacting the audio data etched into the grooves, no problems. We get tons of records in the shop that look like crap but play fine, and plenty that look great and play bad. Thanks for reaching out. Keep 'em spinning.
Great video! (As was the first part). I have an original and filthy copy of Deja Vu by CSNY that needs this treatment. Likely hasn’t been played much for 50 odd years!
Yeah, I'm slowly gravitating toward one. Maybe an ultrasonic that can clean multiple records. But I do get a little pissy whenI see them in the $1,000 range. It's just a vibrating electric motor and a vacuum!
Another wonderful presentation, lecture video on cleaning records. Thank you for advising, and reminding us on a dry cleaning first; or only method, especially if it is a disc that appears clean, but may still have a bit of dust in it. I was wondering about those clear protection discs from Amazon: the Fauge LP Vinyl Record Cleaner clamp. What do you think of this protection cleaning record device, Deaf Man Vinyl?
The idea is sound (protect the label), and the device looks well-made (the o-rings are key). The Deep Groove washer system we sell on the deafmanvinyl.com uses that same design. I honestly think that us record people get worked up somewhat needlessly about the label. For the most part, you're not going to damage the label during normal cleaning. It's not a piece of paper glued to the record. It is actually embedded in the vinyl. So water can't get behind it. If you wipe the fluid/water off within a minute or two, you're going to be fine. Keep 'em spinning!
@@DeafManVinyl Okay, I understand. Thank you very much for your reply, and explanation; and on the Deep Groove washer system on the main deafmanvinyl.com web site.
Hey Roger - I run them through the wash, separately, and then shake them out a few times before I fold them. Usually retire them after 3-4 washings. Keep 'em spinning!
I’ve tried every method under the sun over the last 40 years, and finally invested in an ultrasonic cleaner a few years ago. It simply cleans better than any other method or machine I’ve ever encountered. And it’s not even close. They can be pricey, especially the fancy ones, but affordable options are out there. I agree that you don’t have to wet clean every time, and once clean, a good brushing after each spin goes a long way. But when you really need to clean a dirty record, or maybe even especially, a brand new record, the ultrasonic is hands down the winner.
I inherited a record collection that was stored in a moist basement. Some records had mildew and others didn't. I watched both of your deep cleaning videos. Should I do the dry cleaning 1st then wet clean using the Vinyl Styl deep grove or just use the Deep Groove?
I like to use my 4800psi pressure washer with the finest bead of water it will fire. That allows me to really get down in those grooves. Wash it once and you never need to wash it again.
Hi there, Deaf Man! First, congrats for your YT channel, it's awesome and very informative! Second, I've got a record with mold... please, how can I clean it? Thank you!
Hey, sorry for being so late getting back to you. Been busy at the shop. Mold on records is always scarier than it looks. It does come off. I'd start dry and run a carbon fiber brush and then a pad (e.g. Discwasher) over it, and then go over it with a microfiber cloth damp with record cleaning solution (or spray the solution on). If you've got a bunch to clean, I'd consider something like the Vinyl Style Deep Groove Washer System. I use that with an alcohol-based cleaner and cannot believe the gunk that comes out. Keep 'em spinning!
additional insight : when using cleaning solution with a spray, especially if you're generous with it like in the video, don't do it too quick and aim away from the central label. some central labels can tolerate cleaning solution just fine, but only some... others will be harmed, and even a careful swipe of the microfiber cloth might damage it if it comes too close and touches the wet label, causing little pieces of its paper to curl up and the label will look less "clean" and new. I personally care more about the music than anything else, but it did happen to me, and it was still a frustrating experience I'd not recommend !
Yeah man! I've got an Isonic 10-record cleaner that I use for the record store and love it. Will be doing a vid on it soon. But at $850+, they're not for everyone.
Curious, should there be a concern over getting the labels on the record wet? Will the dye fade, or rippling in the paper label? Thanks for the videos btw!
Hmmn, I've not had that problem. Are you using the ones that are like what we used to call terry cloth? I pick them up at Home Depot. I do launder them a few times after use, until they start picking up stray gunk (usually 3-4 times before they cease being record-cleaning cloths and turn into shop rags). I always shake them out well before using.
@@apollomemories7399 are we talking the neon colored cloths that the big box stores sell that claim lint free? No matter what brand I buy they leave fuzzies behind that collect on the needle... Or are you talking like the silky type cloths that they give you when you buy prescription glasses?
@@johnconway7484 The type I've been getting are from Lidl store, a pack of 3, kinda neon looking, different colours, black, green and purpley/pink, the surface is patterned with little squares, cost about £1.70. So, no, not like subscription glasses, but much "rougher" than that. I only use these cloths when wet as I find them very good for washing dirt from records that I buy in second- hand, which although in ex-condition, I do always clean before playing. I suggest that only a proper record cleaning brush or pad be used for dusting off before play.
Hey Nic - not so sure about adding anything oily to the grooves. IMO, really nothing to "protect" a record from (other than sealing out the dust with a good inner and outer sleeve). Appreciate you reaching out. Keep 'em spinning!
Hey Deafman, nice videos. I watched mostly to confirm that my cleaning process was up to par, but I learned a little bit too. (Your wife's vinyl mats are a great idea!) Two questions for ya: With the recent vinyl explosion, and assuming you're buying new records (vs. 2nd hand used), do you wet clean them before you plop 'em down on the table? (Ie: because of assumed factory grim?) And, what's your opinion on rubbermats (or cork) popularized in the 70's VS the now more popular slipmats? I use a slipmat (on top of technic's rubbermat) but I've been starting to wonder if the slipmat is just a dust collector and negating the static reduction of the rubbermat? Like, which is the better choice? Keep spinning, dude.
Hey Lawrence! You bet, new records can come with some production gunk on them - release agents, random bits of vinyl, etc. You can absolutely give them a spritz. I honestly don't ... a little bit of laziness (and I actually don't listen to a ton of new vinyl). One thing I absolutely do is keep my stylus clean (which is where that gunk is going to wind up). I hit it with a brush before every play, and use some solvent-based cleaning solution once a week. As for slip mats, they look cool. But I like my old rubber ones, which I can clearly see are clean or not. As for yours, I'd say when in doubt, pull it off and give it a shake. Keep 'em spinning!
So many different methods and theories for cleaning records these days. I have experimented for years and believe I have the best budget method that can be done without spending mega dollars. Always play a sample of the record before cleaning it because you need a point of reference. You'll need a lazy susan from Ikea which works as a spinning platter for the vinyl. A circular rubber mat to lay on top of the lazy susan and to place your record on for cleaning. You'll then need distilled water, a non-alcohol based concentrated cleaning solution (I use "Down With Dirty" Concentrate) and some absorbent kitchen paper towels. First place your record on the lazy susan/ rubber mat. Squirt some cleaning solution around the record, then following the groove use a soft brush (like a clean shoe brush) to work the solution around in both directions. Do this for a few minutes before using a paper towel to remove the liquid. Then repeat the process with distilled water and use a different brush. (Have one brush for cleaning solution and one for water). Remove the water from the surface with paper towel and flip the record over. Repeat. Then leave in a dish strainer to completely air dry before storing in a new poly sleeve. This will normally work a treat and give a beautiful shine to the vinyl also. In some cases I'm looking to take the process to the next level, I then use Record Revirginizer. I've had some amazing results using this product and no, I not sponsored by them (unfortunately). I once picked up a MFSL copy of Dark Side of The Moon really cheap because it had heavy surface noise. The revirginizer cleaned it so well, it plays like new! You can check out their website for info on that. The thing to remember is no amount of cleaning will revive a dead record. Some records have been so mis-treated or just played to death that they are beyond saving.
That Rolling Stones record you pulled out of your basement does look like many of mine I had in my basements over the years. But watching that first video you said to dry wipe first, then wet wipe? You skipped that dry wipe on this record? Was it because it was that bad that you didn't want the dry brush pushing more crud into the grooves of that record? or just a mistake in the video? I bought a couple of your mats your wife made and have time now for some deep cleaning but need to get this detail sorted out:-)? thanks!!
@@DeafManVinyl ok cool:-) Get me a 2LP Sgt. Pepper 50th Anniversary Vinyl:-) thanks man take care, and Merry Christmas and Happy new year to ya!!:-) Oh is there a vinyl edition to Brian Wilson's new soundtrack video "The Long Promised Road'?.. I see that it is available for streaming but I would buy the vinyl LP if available?
Surfactant? Just about any cleaning solution you buy should have a surfactant in the mix. I like the Vinyl Styl cleaning solution - www.deafmanvinyl.com/dmv-shop/vinyl-styl-8-oz-record-cleaning-fluid/
I have a few different stylus brushes. Some are loose and longer bristles. Others are short and tightly packed. My question is what kind of brush is the best?
I actually use one of each when I'm cleaning a really dirty record for the first time. The short-bristle brush will get down in the grooves and bring the dust to the surface, and then the longer bristle brush is good for sweeping it all off the surface.
Yeah, it's driving me crazy trying to get some. A good alternative is the SPIN-CLEAN RECORD WASHER SYSTEM MKII. Basically, Vinyl Styl based their design off this tried-and-true machine. For the money ($79-ish) it's hard to beat.
How do you keep lint off your records when drying them with those towels? I currently let them air dry but even using only distilled water I'm still seeing water spots.
The microfiber cloths have been through the wash a time or two, and I shake them out before using, so not much trouble with lint. Yes, even distilled water will sometimes leave spots you have to go back and clear off. I've been using a homemade cleaning solution that has a wetting agent in it, and the records dry much cleaner now. See what you think: itlondonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/for-audiophiles/home-brew-cleaner-for-vacuum-rcms/
@@DeafManVinyl The problem with that one is that it’s for vacuum cleaning systems. They even say that it’s NOT for cleaning your records without a vacuum cleaning systems. So then that begs the question, what do you use that doesn’t require a vacuum, since many vinyl listeners like myself don’t have (or want) one?
... great lessons, but if you would wet the label of an old "blue note" (Till liberty adress) record for example, the whole printed words would have been blurred.but in General it works....
I was surprised you didn’t mention we should not get the paper labels wet. Seems like they would bubble up or start to peel up. I saw another video on YT where a guy was soaking the whole record in a sink. He carefully dabbed off the labels but does not sound like a good idea to me. No pun intended.
Yeah, I think some folks worry a bit too much about the labels. Except for a very few exceptions, they aren't simply pieces of paper glued on to the vinyl. They are actually pressed on/in under pressure. Pretty hard for them to delaminate simply by being exposed to water or cleaning fluid. Dry them off promptly with a towel and you should be OK. Keep 'em spinning.
Two nice videos for both dry and wet cleaning. But I noticed two things: 1. You seem to be able to pick out the record from the sleeve, so any inner sleeve has its opening to the same side as your outer sleeve. I would never recommend that, a record may fall out of the sleeve unprotected. But... it might be done in the video to speed things up and keep the flow of you talking. 2. You take out the record with your fingers, instead of letting it slowly slide and land on your open hand, where you only touch the side with the inside of the hand and let your middle and ring finger touch the label. I'm sorry, but that was what made me stop the video to write this.
I've seen some recipes that use Alcohol, Distilled water, a mild soap, and foto-flo together. I haven't tried it yet. What are your thoughts about it ?
Here's an article that caught my eye: londonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/for-audiophiles/home-brew-cleaner-for-vacuum-rcms/ I've been using this recipe in my Deep Groove record washer. The Iflord wetting agent is pricey, but it does cause the fluid to sheet off the record nicely. I found it online at B&H Photo. All that said, I sometimes have to go back with a micro-fiber cloth and specifically go after fingerprints that got left behind. Keep 'em spinning!
Don't use soaps of any kind. Soaps leave a residue. That residue with bake into the bottom of the grooves through friction over time which will become difficult to remove. The only way to remove baked in residue is with an ultrasonic cleaner or enzymatic cleaners. The baked in residue will also lead to uneven stylus wear. Alcohol will break down vinyl, so it's important to use 3 parts distilled water, 1 part denatured alcohol, with just a few drops of photo-flo. Avoid stylus cleaning fluids. The fluid with travel up the stylus into the motor assembly which houses delicate parts that will quickly become gunked up, ruining your cartridge. Electronic stylus cleaners can damage those delicate wires and motor inside the cartridge as well. The best stylus cleaners are stiff brushes and things like the Onzow Stylus Cleaner. Don't play wet records. Water will also travel up the stylus into the housing. Allow your records to completely dry before playing. Frankly, save up your money and get a Degritter.
@@helgar791 Denaturated alcohol contains some kind of bitter substance that will leave some residue behind. Pure alcohol is the way to go if you want to use it in your solution.
@@helgar791 Of course you can use soap. I apply a very small amount of washing up liquid to a wet microfibre cloth to clean any record that I buy in from dealers. Just rub it into the cloth to soap it up a bit and clean the record by working the cloth into the groove on a flat surface. I then thoroughly rinse it off using my shower head at full blast. Then before playing I apply a solution of 50/50 mix of Isopropyl and distilled water, dry that off with a record brush on the turntable rotating at 45rpm and bingo - an ultra clean record.
Am I the only one that uses a led flashlight to see how much dust is really on a record? A record that can look dust free to the naked eye can look covered with dust using one. And the more powerful the flashlight is the better.
I can't believe I just watched a "Pro" spray water on a record including the labels. There's no mention of how to actually remove mold, how to remove spilled drink residue or other gunk, how/when to use soap & water (yes, there's times), how/when to use Ronson lighter fluid (maybe a lesser known trick), etc...
Hey Matt - Check out my vid on the Deep Groove Washer system. Agree that there are definitely times that a record needs a bath - certainly with mold, although it's been a loooong time since I spilled a drink on an LP! As for the labels, they are much tougher than you would think. They absolutely can stand a spritz (I'm assuming that most people would know to wipe them dry at some point). Thanks for adding to the conversation.
Miss part one? Learn how to beat dust and static: ua-cam.com/video/Mu2arpNyVQs/v-deo.html
My record cleaning ritual for new and used.
1. dry clean with painting edge pad to remove surface dust.
2. pre-rinse using vinyl style bath with just distilled water and brushes out putting wet records in drying rack up to 10 at a time.
3. dump old water and refill vinyl style with with my record cleaning mix and put brushes back in.
4. wash record per instruction and without removing orange label clamp I use the vinyl vac to remove water from both sides.
5 .place clean record in drying rack and repeat. first record in is completely dry by the time I fill last spot in drying rack.
10 LPs takes about 30 minutes give or take...time to listen to a record :)
I leave the label protector clamp on which I then place the vinyl vac "wand" right next to the finger groove. having the clamp on
allows me to hold and turn record with one hand while holding the vinyl vac wand with the other.
I use a Milwaukee cordless vacuum with the VVac because it has perfect amount of low suction and very portable (and Cool)
and its relatively quiet as far as wet/dry vacs go too.
My record cleaning mix is 14oz distilled water - 2oz 99% pure isopropyl alcohol - 3-4 drops of Photo Flow wetting agent
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Bought a plastic turntable spice rack (also called lazy Susan) for $5 at local grocery store, and placed a vinyl sleeve sized frame or square plate on top with a soft pillowcase placed over if anyone has items like this, being able to turn the disc as you clean to follow the grooves…game changer!
So glad I found your channel and these videos. There is a lot of opinions on record cleaning, but your methods just make sense. Thanks for doing what you do!
Enjoyed both your vinyl cleaning videos. As you mentioned in your first one, we all have our own styles and methods. In short, on an old turntable I set the record on it, I use a mixture of Tergikleen and distilled water in a squirt bottle, I push the liquid into the grooves using a 4 inch paint sponge. Then use a paint edger and go around both directions several times to get into the grooves and clean them. I take off the liquid (slowly) with the VinylVac hooked to a 5HP wet/dry vac. Follow that up with a rinse, using the same routine as above but with a mixture of Spin Clean (cap full) and distilled water in another squirt bottle, and another set of paint sponge and edger. Removed the same way by sucking the liquid out of the grooves with the VinylVac. Before my stylus plays any new to me record, new or used, it gets an excellent wet cleaning. Happy listening!
I use the groove washer to clean my records and it works great. I like to rinse my records off with a spray bottle filled with distilled water over the sink. Really spray them off good. Then a wipe with the micro fiber cloth and onto the drying rack. Cheers enjoyed the vid part 1 and 2.
I bought a Knosti cleaner even though I was somewhat sceptical about its abilities, but a Jethro Tull album that sounded like frying bacon is now silent, and others have improved immeasurably too. Very important to rinse after cleaning though, and allow to dry completely.
love that analogy of frying bacon - a sound we can all relate too
Again, short and sweet. What about vacuum brushes rather than micro fiber cloths?
Clean mine with microfiber cloth.then a quick run through with the anti state brush then on my table to play.. usually only wet clean when they are real dirty..been doing it for over 40 years now..
Just got back into my vinyl, I suppose after just watching your first cleaning video on starting always dry - to stop making mud - you went straight ahead on the Rolling Stones record...wet. liked the advice though and want one of your mats.
Thanks for commenting. Here's where to get a mat: www.deafmanvinyl.com/products/record-cleaning-mat-band-print-fabric
@@DeafManVinyl unfortunately you don’tdon’t ship to UK
fantastic, ready to clean my copy of the Wall now
u can believe a man who wears a PF shirt
LMAO...😂🤣
Great way to go, thanks! I use your method with two mods; I work on a glass top table as glass hardly conducts, or stores any static electricity and always touch the metal cabinet of my tuner which is tied into the house ground to discharge any static I may have picked up before starting work.
Excellent. Thanks for adding to the conversation!
Rubber coated file folder racks are nice too (office supply store or Amazon). Enjoy the music!
Thanks for the tip!
A goat brush on a very grungy album is a must .
Why didn't you clean it dry before you sprayed the cleaning solution on it? "Dust plus liquid equals mud", right?
He knows his stuff. I suddenly feel there is hope for my collection!
Wet vac only my man. I have been into vinyl for 20 plus years and after watching another UA-camr show how to make your own wet vac system, the only way!
Bought an Okki Nokki Record Cleaning Machine and never looked back.
Cleans all the gunk, fingerprints and other assorted debris right out of, and off, the grooves.
Best investment a serious vinyl collector can make.
I've been told to always clean in the direction the record spins, never wipe anti clockwise as it creates negative charges but you wet wipe both ways, does this not create static problems?
The dirtiest records I find are used 45’s. To clean them , I use your dry cleaning methods, then for wet cleaning ( almost always essential with dirty / noisy 45’s) , I use paper towel soaked with distilled water and revolving them around one hand, applying pressure on both sides at the same time. The white paper towel frequently shows brown sludge removed using this method. I finish to dry with a clean cotton cloth or microfibre cloth . The grooves are wider/ deeper than microgroove LPs so clean soft cotton works well. The improvement in sound quality is staggering , removing most or all noise . Only 45’s damaged by stylus needles continue to sound less than ideal but ECB with this cleaning method, you can get significant improvements.
My experience is that the VPI vacuum record cleaner is the most effective way of vinyl wet cleaning.
You are amazing! Thank you for all of the information for record care!
Ladies & gentleman, do what I did and support this man if you’ve learned something from his videos. Fair prices and blitzkrieg shipping!
You're the best!
Very informative thank you! It's funny, I just got into records and thought I learned everything. But YOU sir, have that old dad experience. I'm on board!
This guy Deaf man is a cool guy!
I've used distilled water with a couple drops of Dawn, then a distilled water rinse after. Simple and works great for me
Yep, that'll do it. Dawn breaks the surface tension, and the distilled water removes the danger of suspended sediment, minerals, etc.
@@DeafManVinyl Not so sure about that. Dawn breaks down oil. Aren’t records made from petroleum products? I would use something milder.
I wish you guys would consider making those cleaning mats again, I want one so bad. I bought a foam mat for record cleaning from Amazon, but that puppy is a static making nightmare.
The homemade mats are on his website and I purchased one this January (2022).
I use a carbon fibre brush but per your last video, doing it on the turntable itself may not be enough -- but I almost never see it get any dust anyways. I had washed a lot of my records in a cleaning system, but it's not a full basin -- similar but just between two brushes. Really not sure where to go from here -- I've been thinking about doing ultrasonic cleaning.
Cleaning fluid: 91% alcohol, distilled water and about 2 drops of dish detergent. (Recipe for the fluid on UA-cam, too.) The detergent does not build up, it helps to remove the dust. Spray the brush just enough to let it kill any static electricity. Clean the brush off between swipes along the groove. Keep wiping with the groove and cleaning the brush until the record shines.
Thanks for adding to the conversation.
didn't you just say to brush any dust off before liquid. And that Stones record is not in a poly jacket. Pulled ight out of the cardboard outer jacket. That's a good way of scratching up your favorite vinyl.
You should post a link to your store so I can support you
Thanks for the love! We're at www.deafmanvinyl.com
Hi! I use the dry, and wet method with itens that I have in my house, and it WORKS! My After the Rain LP was with 1 track skipping, and now its fine! also Keep the Faith was with a huge cracks, and its gone! Very thanks for your video. Salute from Brazil
Spin Clean rules. I use the old wire racks folks used to store lps and 45’s for my drying process. Killer find if you spot one. The short ones are for 45’s and there are taller ones for lp’s. The reason i say that is if you get the right one the wire frame hits right on the label so you’re not leaving bare wax on the wire frame to air dry. After them jokers are dry i give it a quick dustaroo and we are off to the races. In the past i worked at a high volume record shop and we ran a lot of lps through the vpi vac. When time is not a factor, i would prefer air drying to any vac system. Especially on my own records. Double especially on my 45’s.
Thanks for adding to the convo, Ryan!
How would you go about dust jackets and inner liners stuck onto vinyl. Long story short, I had returned to a holiday home only to find that at some point the basement had flooded and then dried itself out to a depth of 1.5 inches, my vinyls were stored upright in a card board box which was on the floor, but has since rehardened. I have not dared touch them since. Any advice on where to start with that one? all of you vids seem to be tacking dust, but have yet to see one tackling caked on dust jackets and inner liners! any advice greatly appreciated, many thanks for all your times'
Dust jackets are going to be tough to remove without damage. As for the inner sleeves, I would try dipping them quickly in some warm water, wait a while, and see if that causes them to loosen their grip. Good luck.
My dads collection of about 900 records became wet when he transported them in a trailer with what he thought was a rain proof cover, the covers are all warped and the records all are now smeared and dirty 😣but this is the first step in a long cleaning process, thanks.
Yikes! Good luck, man.
thank you so much !! watched your first video as well as this one ; ive got some pretty dusty records left by a family memeber , and as a newbie to vynil i was scratching my head at all tha conflicting info ive heard about how to clean them . these videos were really helpful !! :D
Can you give me any tips on how to get the musty smell out of the album covers something when get a used one they smell that way. What i do is put the album just the cover in a wind between the screen and the glass a south facing window on dry cool and cold day.
Interesting. Musty records are kinda like wet dog smell, I guess. You either love it ... or it drives you freakin' crazy! I have tried using some diluted vinegar on a sponge (damp, not wet) and that seems to help. I like your approach to airing them out. The absolute worst are records from the house of a smoker. Almost impossible to get stale smoke smell out. Keep 'em spinning!
I read a post someplace about wet smelly tennis shoes . If you freeze them it kills the mold. (or knocks the smell down.) Maybe that might work with a paper jacket. Probably best tried in a manual defrost freezer. (but it might pick up the smells of the freezer , old chicken, lobster, fishes, neighbor's hot dish leftover etc).
Seal them in a box with an ozone generator for a little while. Kills odors and mold.
I’m confused why you didn’t use a cover to protect the label. They sell them for a couple bucks and it’s just like a rubber thing that looks like a coaster. Also, I was recently told that the most important time to clean one’s records is when they are brand new, unopened, straight from the vinyl pressing plant. Apparently records are so dusty when they’re being packaged in a warehouse. From there it’s important to avoid putting the record back in the sleeve that the new record came in since all of that dust and those particles are in that sleeve. Immediately place the vinyl in a new sleeve and avoid using the sleeves that the record was in when it was opened for the first time. I tend to open the plastic that sealed the record, leave that plastic on and cover it with a cover. Next I’ll take the sleeves that the record came in and put them into the cover (if they’re a fancy sleeve, if it’s just a regular paper sleeve I throw it away.) Finally I put the clean records in the new sleeve and put them in the record cover with the opening facing left or right (to avoid dust from getting in the record while it’s not being used). This way I’m not damaging the cover whenever I pull the record out, it’s protected and it’s ready for use. Over the last 10 years this is the process I’ve found works the best, on top of that I’ve saved brand new unopened records from being destroyed when I play them for the first time… all that dust and rubbish from the new record was being jammed into the grooves causing permanent damage to the record and making sure the stylus doesn’t last nearly as long as it should have.
I am not AT ALL one of the know it all record collectors who thinks that my way is the only way… quite the opposite. I’m actually telling you this hoping that maybe you can confirm that this method is a good method and if it isn’t then maybe you can give me advice on ways I can improve my cleaning method. My goal is to find the best way to keep my vinyl and my stylus in the best condition possible, NOT to be right. Please feel free to advise or correct anything you feel could improve this. Thanks!!!
Good questions. As for the label, they are not nearly as delicate as you would think. The paper is actually pressed into the vinyl (as opposed to being simply glued on). So, it is integrated into the record. Very hard to mess it up with water or cleaning fluid. But, by all means, if you are worried, you can use a label protector (but not required IMO). Cleaning a new record before first-play is a pro move, and I would def recommend it - especially given the atrociously bad quality control of today's pressing plants, which are working 24/7 to keep up with demand. Hope you will watch our newest vids on further protecting your records with a quality inner sleeve and outer sleeve. Keep 'em spinning!
The only question I have is.. It's there a trick to spray clean them without getting liquid on the label.. I noticed you just sprayed three label along with the record when cleaning but I'm just too worried about damaging the labels.. Is there a way of spraying without getting the labels wet? Thanks!
You can either spray onto the cloth instead of the record, or purchase a record label protector (on Amazon)
Hi my husband has just located his old vinyl records.
They had been left outside in the yard in a box for over 40yrs.
The record sleeves have disintegrated and stuck to the actual record. How should we begin to clean them?
Unbelievable I said leaving them outside!
Yikes! I would literally wash them like a dirty dish. Warm water (distilled would be best) with just a drop or two of Dawn dishwashing soap. Use a clean microfiber cloth, but let the warm water do the heavy lifting. Rinse in fresh distilled water and let air dry. Good luck!
@@DeafManVinyl thank you I’ll make a start!!
@@DeafManVinyl thanks I will make a start as there are over 100 records..
Just came across your channel and subscribed. I use a Record Doctor machine to clean my vinyl. It works well too.
Thanks for the sub!
is there any way to repair a scratch??
In my experience, there is not. Although I'm sure you'll ignite a firestorm with this query! That said, very often, a scratch is only a '"surface scratch" i.e., it does not go down into the grove where it will effect play. If it's not physically impacting the audio data etched into the grooves, no problems. We get tons of records in the shop that look like crap but play fine, and plenty that look great and play bad. Thanks for reaching out. Keep 'em spinning.
Great video! (As was the first part). I have an original and filthy copy of Deja Vu by CSNY that needs this treatment. Likely hasn’t been played much for 50 odd years!
Hey James - that one's def worth cleaning! Love me some CSNY.
I have the same album from over 50 years ago. I just got all my records back, so I will be cleaning that one, for sure!
I'm curious what your take is on those fancy and spendy record cleaning machines. I'm surprised you haven't thrown down for one.
Yeah, I'm slowly gravitating toward one. Maybe an ultrasonic that can clean multiple records. But I do get a little pissy whenI see them in the $1,000 range. It's just a vibrating electric motor and a vacuum!
Another wonderful presentation, lecture video on cleaning records. Thank you for advising, and reminding us on a dry cleaning first; or only method, especially if it is a disc that appears clean, but may still have a bit of dust in it. I was wondering about those clear protection discs from Amazon: the Fauge LP Vinyl Record Cleaner clamp. What do you think of this protection cleaning record device, Deaf Man Vinyl?
The idea is sound (protect the label), and the device looks well-made (the o-rings are key). The Deep Groove washer system we sell on the deafmanvinyl.com uses that same design. I honestly think that us record people get worked up somewhat needlessly about the label. For the most part, you're not going to damage the label during normal cleaning. It's not a piece of paper glued to the record. It is actually embedded in the vinyl. So water can't get behind it. If you wipe the fluid/water off within a minute or two, you're going to be fine. Keep 'em spinning!
@@DeafManVinyl Okay, I understand. Thank you very much for your reply, and explanation; and on the Deep Groove washer system on the main deafmanvinyl.com web site.
how do you clean used micro fiber cloths for the next cleanings?
Hey Roger - I run them through the wash, separately, and then shake them out a few times before I fold them. Usually retire them after 3-4 washings. Keep 'em spinning!
This is good, an Okki Nokki is also a great investment, used one for years
I’ve tried every method under the sun over the last 40 years, and finally invested in an ultrasonic cleaner a few years ago. It simply cleans better than any other method or machine I’ve ever encountered. And it’s not even close. They can be pricey, especially the fancy ones, but affordable options are out there. I agree that you don’t have to wet clean every time, and once clean, a good brushing after each spin goes a long way. But when you really need to clean a dirty record, or maybe even especially, a brand new record, the ultrasonic is hands down the winner.
I inherited a record collection that was stored in a moist basement. Some records had mildew and others didn't. I watched both of your deep cleaning videos. Should I do the dry cleaning 1st then wet clean using the Vinyl Styl deep grove or just use the Deep Groove?
Hey! I think I'd go straight to wet cleaning. A mildewed record is about as dirty as it gets. Congrats on the record collection!
I like to use my 4800psi pressure washer with the finest bead of water it will fire. That allows me to really get down in those grooves. Wash it once and you never need to wash it again.
Excellent advice..
Hi there, Deaf Man! First, congrats for your YT channel, it's awesome and very informative! Second, I've got a record with mold... please, how can I clean it? Thank you!
Hey, sorry for being so late getting back to you. Been busy at the shop. Mold on records is always scarier than it looks. It does come off. I'd start dry and run a carbon fiber brush and then a pad (e.g. Discwasher) over it, and then go over it with a microfiber cloth damp with record cleaning solution (or spray the solution on). If you've got a bunch to clean, I'd consider something like the Vinyl Style Deep Groove Washer System. I use that with an alcohol-based cleaner and cannot believe the gunk that comes out. Keep 'em spinning!
additional insight : when using cleaning solution with a spray, especially if you're generous with it like in the video, don't do it too quick and aim away from the central label.
some central labels can tolerate cleaning solution just fine, but only some... others will be harmed, and even a careful swipe of the microfiber cloth might damage it if it comes too close and touches the wet label, causing little pieces of its paper to curl up and the label will look less "clean" and new.
I personally care more about the music than anything else, but it did happen to me, and it was still a frustrating experience I'd not recommend !
I really appreciate this video.
How about a GOOD Ultra Sonic Cleaner?
Yeah man! I've got an Isonic 10-record cleaner that I use for the record store and love it. Will be doing a vid on it soon. But at $850+, they're not for everyone.
Curious, should there be a concern over getting the labels on the record wet? Will the dye fade, or rippling in the paper label? Thanks for the videos btw!
The labels on most records are actually pressed into the vinyl and won't really damage unless you really soak them.
OK perfect. That's how I do it. Microfiber cloth is so much easier than those archaic record brushes from the 70's.
Please advise, my microfiber clothes leave lint behind.. do I want to use them before or after laundering? Maybe Im playing them wet yet..
Hmmn, I've not had that problem. Are you using the ones that are like what we used to call terry cloth? I pick them up at Home Depot. I do launder them a few times after use, until they start picking up stray gunk (usually 3-4 times before they cease being record-cleaning cloths and turn into shop rags). I always shake them out well before using.
You can buy lint-free microfibre cloths.
@@apollomemories7399 are we talking the neon colored cloths that the big box stores sell that claim lint free? No matter what brand I buy they leave fuzzies behind that collect on the needle... Or are you talking like the silky type cloths that they give you when you buy prescription glasses?
@@johnconway7484 The type I've been getting are from Lidl store, a pack of 3, kinda neon looking, different colours, black, green and purpley/pink, the surface is patterned with little squares, cost about £1.70.
So, no, not like subscription glasses, but much "rougher" than that.
I only use these cloths when wet as I find them very good for washing dirt from records that I buy in second- hand, which although in ex-condition, I do always clean before playing.
I suggest that only a proper record cleaning brush or pad be used for dusting off before play.
A few companies sell a oil to protect your vinyl records after cleaning. What are the thoughts on this?
Hey Nic - not so sure about adding anything oily to the grooves. IMO, really nothing to "protect" a record from (other than sealing out the dust with a good inner and outer sleeve). Appreciate you reaching out. Keep 'em spinning!
Hey Deafman, nice videos. I watched mostly to confirm that my cleaning process was up to par, but I learned a little bit too. (Your wife's vinyl mats are a great idea!) Two questions for ya: With the recent vinyl explosion, and assuming you're buying new records (vs. 2nd hand used), do you wet clean them before you plop 'em down on the table? (Ie: because of assumed factory grim?) And, what's your opinion on rubbermats (or cork) popularized in the 70's VS the now more popular slipmats? I use a slipmat (on top of technic's rubbermat) but I've been starting to wonder if the slipmat is just a dust collector and negating the static reduction of the rubbermat? Like, which is the better choice? Keep spinning, dude.
Hey Lawrence! You bet, new records can come with some production gunk on them - release agents, random bits of vinyl, etc. You can absolutely give them a spritz. I honestly don't ... a little bit of laziness (and I actually don't listen to a ton of new vinyl). One thing I absolutely do is keep my stylus clean (which is where that gunk is going to wind up). I hit it with a brush before every play, and use some solvent-based cleaning solution once a week. As for slip mats, they look cool. But I like my old rubber ones, which I can clearly see are clean or not. As for yours, I'd say when in doubt, pull it off and give it a shake. Keep 'em spinning!
So many different methods and theories for cleaning records these days. I have experimented for years and believe I have the best budget method that can be done without spending mega dollars. Always play a sample of the record before cleaning it because you need a point of reference. You'll need a lazy susan from Ikea which works as a spinning platter for the vinyl. A circular rubber mat to lay on top of the lazy susan and to place your record on for cleaning. You'll then need distilled water, a non-alcohol based concentrated cleaning solution (I use "Down With Dirty" Concentrate) and some absorbent kitchen paper towels. First place your record on the lazy susan/ rubber mat. Squirt some cleaning solution around the record, then following the groove use a soft brush (like a clean shoe brush) to work the solution around in both directions. Do this for a few minutes before using a paper towel to remove the liquid. Then repeat the process with distilled water and use a different brush. (Have one brush for cleaning solution and one for water). Remove the water from the surface with paper towel and flip the record over. Repeat. Then leave in a dish strainer to completely air dry before storing in a new poly sleeve. This will normally work a treat and give a beautiful shine to the vinyl also. In some cases I'm looking to take the process to the next level, I then use Record Revirginizer. I've had some amazing results using this product and no, I not sponsored by them (unfortunately). I once picked up a MFSL copy of Dark Side of The Moon really cheap because it had heavy surface noise. The revirginizer cleaned it so well, it plays like new! You can check out their website for info on that. The thing to remember is no amount of cleaning will revive a dead record. Some records have been so mis-treated or just played to death that they are beyond saving.
That's a solid method. Sound like you've worked it to perfection! And yes, nothing will bring a murdered record back from the dead.
That Rolling Stones record you pulled out of your basement does look like many of mine I had in my basements over the years. But watching that first video you said to dry wipe first, then wet wipe? You skipped that dry wipe on this record? Was it because it was that bad that you didn't want the dry brush pushing more crud into the grooves of that record? or just a mistake in the video? I bought a couple of your mats your wife made and have time now for some deep cleaning but need to get this detail sorted out:-)? thanks!!
Yeah, that one was super dirty and actually had mold in the grooves. So went straight to a wet clean with an alcohol-based cleaner.
@@DeafManVinyl ok cool:-) Get me a 2LP Sgt. Pepper 50th Anniversary Vinyl:-) thanks man take care, and Merry Christmas and Happy new year to ya!!:-) Oh is there a vinyl edition to Brian Wilson's new soundtrack video "The Long Promised Road'?.. I see that it is available for streaming but I would buy the vinyl LP if available?
Whats a good cleaning solution with a sufficient?
Surfactant? Just about any cleaning solution you buy should have a surfactant in the mix. I like the Vinyl Styl cleaning solution - www.deafmanvinyl.com/dmv-shop/vinyl-styl-8-oz-record-cleaning-fluid/
I have a few different stylus brushes. Some are loose and longer bristles. Others are short and tightly packed. My question is what kind of brush is the best?
I actually use one of each when I'm cleaning a really dirty record for the first time. The short-bristle brush will get down in the grooves and bring the dust to the surface, and then the longer bristle brush is good for sweeping it all off the surface.
@@DeafManVinyl I meant for the stylus/needle
What do you recommend as an alternative for the Vinyl Styl Deep Groove Record Washer System, since it’s sold out everywhere including your website?
Yeah, it's driving me crazy trying to get some. A good alternative is the SPIN-CLEAN RECORD WASHER SYSTEM MKII. Basically, Vinyl Styl based their design off this tried-and-true machine. For the money ($79-ish) it's hard to beat.
4:50 well that label is done for...
No matter how hard you try, you can fever get the gunk out of a record unless you use suction.
How do you keep lint off your records when drying them with those towels? I currently let them air dry but even using only distilled water I'm still seeing water spots.
The microfiber cloths have been through the wash a time or two, and I shake them out before using, so not much trouble with lint. Yes, even distilled water will sometimes leave spots you have to go back and clear off. I've been using a homemade cleaning solution that has a wetting agent in it, and the records dry much cleaner now. See what you think: itlondonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/for-audiophiles/home-brew-cleaner-for-vacuum-rcms/
@@DeafManVinyl The problem with that one is that it’s for vacuum cleaning systems. They even say that it’s NOT for cleaning your records without a vacuum cleaning systems. So then that begs the question, what do you use that doesn’t require a vacuum, since many vinyl listeners like myself don’t have (or want) one?
... great lessons, but if you would wet the label of an old "blue note" (Till liberty adress) record for example, the whole printed words would have been blurred.but in General it works....
Good point. There are def some labels that I would be a lot more careful with.
I was surprised you didn’t mention we should not get the paper labels wet. Seems like they would bubble up or start to peel up. I saw another video on YT where a guy was soaking the whole record in a sink. He carefully dabbed off the labels but does not sound like a good idea to me. No pun intended.
3:40: "Be careful...if I get some on the label...."
@@marcsmirnoff936 DOH!
Yeah, I think some folks worry a bit too much about the labels. Except for a very few exceptions, they aren't simply pieces of paper glued on to the vinyl. They are actually pressed on/in under pressure. Pretty hard for them to delaminate simply by being exposed to water or cleaning fluid. Dry them off promptly with a towel and you should be OK. Keep 'em spinning.
Two nice videos for both dry and wet cleaning.
But I noticed two things:
1. You seem to be able to pick out the record from the sleeve, so any inner sleeve has its opening to the same side as your outer sleeve. I would never recommend that, a record may fall out of the sleeve unprotected. But... it might be done in the video to speed things up and keep the flow of you talking.
2. You take out the record with your fingers, instead of letting it slowly slide and land on your open hand, where you only touch the side with the inside of the hand and let your middle and ring finger touch the label. I'm sorry, but that was what made me stop the video to write this.
I've seen some recipes that use Alcohol, Distilled water, a mild soap, and foto-flo together. I haven't tried it yet. What are your thoughts about it ?
Here's an article that caught my eye: londonjazzcollector.wordpress.com/for-audiophiles/home-brew-cleaner-for-vacuum-rcms/
I've been using this recipe in my Deep Groove record washer. The Iflord wetting agent is pricey, but it does cause the fluid to sheet off the record nicely. I found it online at B&H Photo. All that said, I sometimes have to go back with a micro-fiber cloth and specifically go after fingerprints that got left behind. Keep 'em spinning!
Don't use soaps of any kind. Soaps leave a residue. That residue with bake into the bottom of the grooves through friction over time which will become difficult to remove. The only way to remove baked in residue is with an ultrasonic cleaner or enzymatic cleaners. The baked in residue will also lead to uneven stylus wear. Alcohol will break down vinyl, so it's important to use 3 parts distilled water, 1 part denatured alcohol, with just a few drops of photo-flo. Avoid stylus cleaning fluids. The fluid with travel up the stylus into the motor assembly which houses delicate parts that will quickly become gunked up, ruining your cartridge. Electronic stylus cleaners can damage those delicate wires and motor inside the cartridge as well. The best stylus cleaners are stiff brushes and things like the Onzow Stylus Cleaner. Don't play wet records. Water will also travel up the stylus into the housing. Allow your records to completely dry before playing. Frankly, save up your money and get a Degritter.
@@helgar791 Denaturated alcohol contains some kind of bitter substance that will leave some residue behind. Pure alcohol is the way to go if you want to use it in your solution.
@@horsey604 Yes, I stand corrected.
@@helgar791 Of course you can use soap. I apply a very small amount of washing up liquid to a wet microfibre cloth to clean any record that I buy in from dealers. Just rub it into the cloth to soap it up a bit and clean the record by working the cloth into the groove on a flat surface. I then thoroughly rinse it off using my shower head at full blast. Then before playing I apply a solution of 50/50 mix of Isopropyl and distilled water, dry that off with a record brush on the turntable rotating at 45rpm and bingo - an ultra clean record.
Awesome video and t-shirt!
The t-shirt of posers (excepting the dude of the video)
Anionic = residue
Non ionic = no residual or static
Am I the only one that uses a led flashlight to see how much dust is really on a record? A record that can look dust free to the naked eye can look covered with dust using one. And the more powerful the flashlight is the better.
Agree 100 percent. It's absolutely stunning (and a little depressing) to see a record under full light like that.
VPI 16.5 RCM is a better way to clean and Decap machine are the best way to clean
First words:"Never start wet"
-> Starts wet
I noticed that too. Perhaps I'll give it a try...
Wait... You're telling me I DON'T need to go out and spend 5 grand on an ultrasonic cleaner!? 😂
I can't believe I just watched a "Pro" spray water on a record including the labels.
There's no mention of how to actually remove mold, how to remove spilled drink residue or other gunk, how/when to use soap & water (yes, there's times), how/when to use Ronson lighter fluid (maybe a lesser known trick), etc...
Hey Matt - Check out my vid on the Deep Groove Washer system. Agree that there are definitely times that a record needs a bath - certainly with mold, although it's been a loooong time since I spilled a drink on an LP! As for the labels, they are much tougher than you would think. They absolutely can stand a spritz (I'm assuming that most people would know to wipe them dry at some point). Thanks for adding to the conversation.
The enemy is dust! Let me put this record in the drying rack for 10 minutes to collect that dust in the air. Seriously- I like your channel.
So how do you know I'm not drying in a hermetically sealed bio-containment unit!? I could be ... ;-) Thanks for checking in!
Really you should have a pressurized clean room with an air lock for coming and going.
... and the glue method?
If you ain't vacuuming you ain't doing S-
I SEE, you do know better!