Ellen G. White Exposed (Prophet or Pretender)
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- Did Ellen G. White, co-founder of the Seventh-day Adventist church really have the gift of prophecy or has she deceive millions of people? The name Ellen G. White resonates deeply within the Seventh-day Adventist community. Her claims to prophecy have been a beacon for many, while others remain skeptical. Join Pastor Mark Finley as he separates fact from fiction. Through thorough research and a deep understanding of the church's history, Pastor Finley unravels the truth about Ellen White, guiding viewers on a journey of discovery and understanding.
🔗 Read Ellen White's book "Desire of Ages" at m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130...
🔗 Read Ellen White's book "The Great Controversy" at m.egwwritings.org/en/book/132...
*Note- Mark made a verbal mistake when telling the story of O.R.L Crosier and meant to say Hiram Edson.
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I would appreciate it deeply if anyone could pray me I'm very sick from long time illness please pray for me I'm suffering praying for everyone everyday God bless you all
I would like to pray for you this Sabbath. What is your name please?
We unite with faith in prayer with you brother to intercede to the LORD and Saviour for Your healing. Dear LORD Forgive our sins and hear our humble cry. We believe in the Power of Jesus and His Healing and Saving grace. Thank You for receive all blessings with faith believing He has heard our prayer. Amen 🙏
Praying for you! 🙏🏼
Praying. Now and will continue.
May God bless you and heal you Steve. Stay blessed always 🙏
I came to the Seventh Day Adventist church reluctantly 7 years ago after reading Revelation. Three times Revelation mentions those who belong to God, keep His commandments, So I prayed for God to help me find a Sabbath keeping Christian church - other than the Seventh Day Adventist Church, because I had heard so many rumours about them. It took God 9 months to breakdown my barriers, and reluctantly at the age of 46yrs, I stepped foot in God's church. Still very sceptical, I scrutinised everything and everyone, and resolved never to read EG White because, as far as I was concerned, we had the Bible. To my surprise White's books were not studied collectively, yet the Bible was. Very rarely did her name ever come up, and when it did, it was usually a quote from someone relating to Bible Study.
I eventually decided to read Steps To Christ, and to be blatantly honest, it wasn't until I read that little book, that I fully understood my wretched condition and Christ's sacrifice for me. I can honestly say that until I read that book, I was not truely converted. I thank God for EG White and her willingness to share the inspiration God has given her, despite fierce opposition.
Wow, that's powerful. You should consider doing a video testimony of that experience some day if you can find it in your heart.
Amen. That is why Satan is fighting hard to keep members from reading her books. I too came to the church at 50. I listened to all arguments against her. Yet when I read her books I kept asking myself why she would be so maligned. You found it, she makes us understand how much we need Christ. In there lies the reason Satan fights her.
Amen Praise all be to God
Amen!
Praise God
Never underestimate the power of prayer one small prayer can change your life praise God praying for everyone everyday God bless you all
Amen. Thank you.
@@HL365
Ellen’s writings are great, but were any of them anti slavery?
Because they 😮didn’t want to worship wit blacks .
@@uc3698EGW's son did all his ministry down south converting all the African Americans.
Take a good look at Ellen G White she's not fully white (European). Do some research.
Amen 🙏🏽
I had trouble with Ellen G. White. I read the Bible. I read John chapter 3 that said I needed to be baptized to be saved. I was taken to an Seventh Day Adventist church, not knowing the difference between any other church. It was VERY difficult to accept EGW as a prophet because I knew not who she was nor knew if she was on par with the Bible. I didn’t know I had to believe in her before I was baptized. The Sabbath moved me to continue with the Seventh Say Adventist, and I agree that man shouldn’t had changed God’s commandments. As I fellowship with other brethren, the SOP made the Bible very simple. I used her writings as a tool to teach others, but like Moses’ writings, I saw her writings being used to cut each other down than lifting each other up. Being physically handicapped, I was told I was a burden on my Adventist girlfriend. It hurt, and I had to wonder if EGW writings were heavily opinionated. I did not see myself as a burden but an opportunity to grow closer to God. I thought I needed to prove that I could understand the Bible to, and I did and done. I was happy to know Sister White and James White both were handicapped, and as I read her work, I cannot deny she was a prophet. Her writings are so simple and enlightening that I pray others read what she wrote. The Word of God is magnified. She was inspired by the Holy Spirit. There’s no way any could write like her unless God gave it. If we do not believe God can move this woman, we should disregard the Bible, because the Bible promised to move men and women by the Holy Ghost. From Genesis to Revelation, God has visibly and evidently talked and revealed Himself to man. God shows He’s True, and if man and woman refuse to believe, He’ll use animals and inanimate rocks that will cry out.
Thanks for sharing your testimony. You are not a burden to God. He loves you to the utmost. We pray that you would grow strong in faith and build your faith in the solid word of God.
@@HL365 I’m thankful for the prayers. I thank God for this ministry. I’ve reread what I said. I hope I did not come off negative. If it was not for the 1844 movement and out pouring of the Spirit, we would not find our placing in these times that led up from Daniel. I believe there was a time where I had the Bible, and I was off course. I did not know what was the 2300 Day Prophecy or the Sanctuary purpose. It was not until recently I digged deep into it as I discussed the Bible with Christians that were Sunday-Keepers. I believe when we’re referred to a cult we revert to try to explain prophecy without the founders. I have yet to find it is possible, because they were moved to study themselves to show why we’re not mere Christians but Seventh-Day Adventist. I believe Ellen G. White had the gift of prophecy. SOP. I’m not trying to win anyone over, but the youth of those days in the 1800 moves us today (and even invites us to critique or examine their studies to) move us to not believe blindly but read carefully and prayerfully. We can conclude as they had, and as we near the end, we can find where we stand in time. I believe if we do not believe God can give a young woman or girl the SOP, how can we believe that our Father can do that for us too. If we believe the promise of the Spirit, we need to believe we can be moved as a testament that God can work the works that He manifest in His Word:
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 15:4-6
Very interesting statement! When I was in the church, I was constantly put down for asking the "wrong questions". My folks would beat the hell out of me if I didn't agree with them! When sent to their boarding schools as a "cerf", I had to work in their tax free school factorys to pay my own child support! Much isolation and censorship! Have. Since come to the conclusion that they are nothing but a greedy, self serving CULT!!!! AND RELIGIOUS BUSINESS! But I won't to thank you for hearing me out, even though I'm on an Àdventist channel!!
Due to those who run the churches these days..I will not have my son baptized and won't get baptized myself. If the lord needs us to be, before we go threw the gates, it can be done. Not a man on earth as holy as Jesus..not a man holy an pure enough for that.
@@EddySmith85 As fallen men may had become, it’s not who but Whom you do it for. If the faults of men and women causes you to not open the Word, you will not know what God ask of you. It was error on my part because I strayed more away from the Father and Son of God, because I was left on my own to decide what the Lord is speaking to us. I hope you considered reading about Baptism, for it is what the Lord commanded us to do to be saved in John chapter three. It is crossing the Red Sea after we accept Jesus as the Lamb of God. We’re promised to receive power from on High the Holy Ghost with fire. The Lord will “will guide you into all truth” by the Holy Spirit, so please study and think about why baptism was instituted. It is of God. We should not disregard the body of Christ, because it’s not about reaching sinners but helping Christians that may error.
Jesus Christ died for our Sins According to the scriptures and that he was Buried and that he rose again the third day praying for everyone everyday God bless you all......
Thanks for watching and for your prayers
Truth. I have read and re-read these books. They have led me to read the Bible even more and inspired me to love and serve Christ. A lot is said about Ellen White by people who do not really read her books... Those who do need to speak up. Great presentation!
That has been my experience. Ellen's always has pointed to the Bible.
Raised as an Adventist! Read many of her books! Went to their boarding schools,! Then I STUDIED THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN!!? Being a direct decendent from the church since it's official founding in 1863. - to avoid paying government taxes! Studied much about Ellen White and Dr. John Harvey Kellogg! My ancestors are from Dr. Kelloggs "kids"! I believe that the church today is nothing but a religious scam and CULT! For the White family and their medical interests! I also believe that Ellen White was biracial and Dr Kellogg was a homosexual .!! That's why they kicked Dr. Kellogg out of the church!! AN X -ADVENTIST!!
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
You wanna find a real prophet, look up Nancy cohen.
Ellen' Recommendation to go Vegan or Vegetarian is vvery Appriopate and Beneficial for Health. Consideratin tat there are many farm animals pestilences in the past eg swine flu, mad cow disease, bird flu, seafood contamination...🍗🥩🦐🦞🦀🦑🥓🍖
Myself was led to detox, fast due to my fatty liver n high colestriol. AND it saved me from a near stroke. I used to eat lots of red meat, fried n spicy food, sugar, gluten, carbs, salt...
My church also has a saturday, sabbath n do not eat unclean foods. Yes, there are lots of critics from fellow christians esp amongst family members😊
My Reply to them are: The main issue or crux of christianity is not what we eat but rather that we must abide, follow closely to what the bible teaches. AND our common Denominator is the Ressurrected Jesus🙌🏻👑✝️⚖🛡🌄
And that Stopped the Agruments or Discord for the time being🕊🕊🕊🍵🍣
The canonical prophets …. I am convinced They are sufficient…. Bless
Hi, thanks for your comment. You say that canonical prophets are enough. But if you listen to the canonical prophets, they are the ones who prophesied that there will be prophets. For example look at these passages below:
Several Bible passages indicate that the ministry of prophets will extend till the end times. Paul writes,
8. Therefore it says, "When he ascended on high he led a host of captives, and he gave gifts to men." 9. (In saying, "He ascended," what does it mean but that he had also descended into the lower regions, the earth? 10. He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things.) 11. And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers, 12. to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ, 13. until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,
Here Paul writes that as Jesus ascended, he gave gifts to men. These are the gifts of the Holy Spirit. And one of the many gifts mentioned here is the gift of prophets. They, along with the other gifts, were given to the church to equip the saints for ministry so that the church is built up. This was to continue until the church attains unity of faith and knowledge of Christ like a full-grown man and to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. Here the goal for the church is to grow up to be like Christ. For this purpose, all the gifts, including the ministry of prophets, are given. This state is attained only by the grace of Christ and this goal will be fully realized at his coming (Ephesians 5:25-27). Therefore, the ministry of prophets will extend past the period of the apostles to the end times.
In His Olivet discourse when asked about the signs that were to occur before the destruction of Jerusalem and end of the world, Jesus wove answers to these two questions in one discourse. One of the signs He repeats twice is not to be led astray by false prophets (Matthew 24:11,24). What must be noticed here is that Jesus does not categorically deny any manifestation of prophets. Instead, He only warns about the false prophets will seek to lead astray even the very elect which leads to the idea that true prophets would exist, and the elect would have to determine the true from the false. The Andrews Study Bible comments, "The existence of false prophets indicates that true ones are also to be expected at the end of time." Yet again, there is indirect evidence pointing to the possibility of true prophets in the last days.
Another classic text that reveals the extension of the prophetic ministry is found in Joel 2:28-31:
28. And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions. 29. Even on the male and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit. 30. "And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. 31. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes.
Though addressed to the Judah, this prediction was not realized to the literal Jews because of their unfaithfulness. But this prophecy talks about the events that would happen before God's great and awesome day. This "day of the Lord" motif is often used to localized judgments fundamentally refers to the final day of judgment. Before this period, God would pour out His Spirit. These extraordinary outpouring would result in prophetic manifestations of vision and dreams. The noticeable aspect of this verse is that this gift would be poured out without being limited to particular age, gender or numbers. The plural language used here needs to be noticed. Though this incredible prophecy was not fulfilled in the ideal circumstance that God has initially purposed for the nation of Judah, it was partially fulfilled when Peter applied this scripture to explain the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. But it will have a complete fulfillment before the antitypical day of the Lord.
The most explicit passage that reveals the possibility of prophetic ministry for the last days is found in Revelation 12:17: "Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea." Looking at this passage from a historicist perspective, this passage reveals a scenario where the end time church will invite the wrath of Satan. This church has two identifying features: obedience to the commandments and adherence to the testimony of Jesus. John expounds what this testimony of Jesus is, "Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, "You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God." For the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy." Bible also tells us that the Holy Spirit was sent to bear witness to Jesus and His teachings (John 15:26; 16:13). So, the medium through which the Holy Spirit bears witness to Jesus is through the prophetic gift that He bestows. Thus, the phrase testimony of Jesus refers to the prophetic gift the Holy Spirit gives. All of these above passages shows that the gift of prophecy will extend till the end time.
"Then I fell down at his feet to worship him but he said to me "you must not do that" I am a fellowservant with you and your brothers who hold the testimony of Jesus "worship God" for the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy. Bible also tells us that the H.S. was sent to bear witness to Jesus and his teachings(John 15:26;16:13)So the‼️MEDIUM⁉️ through which the H.S. bears witness to Jesus is through prophetic gift that he bestows. Thus the phrase"testimony of Jesus" refers to the prophetic gift the Holy Spirit gives. All of these above passages show that the gift of prophecy will extend till the end of time."" (1)Your use of the word " medium" it's also in your song"Live out thy life within me" I the transparent medium thy glory to display"
You're also misunderstanding John 15:26;16:13; see 16:15; explains 15:26 &16:13, see Yahusha is the WORD(John 1:1,14) and the WORD was with Yahuah and the WORD was Yahuah, and the WORD was made flesh and dwelt among us(and we beheld his glory,the glory as of the only begotten of the Father)full of grace and truth.>The WORD is Yahuah
I became Seventh-day Adventist after reading one oi f her books. I also became vegetarian. I am convinced that the writings of Sister White are a heavenly gift to the adventist church. Many non-adventists members have benefited from reading her books. Thanks God for Ellen White's writings. 🙏
Amen. Because you actually picked a book and read it. Those who criticize her have never read anything she wrote.
thank you for the nice message . that would be a great reminder for the coming of our Lord God. thank you. Pastor Mark
Amen! Amen!
@@JamieElison This is what the Judaism teaches on the subject “According to the Jewish belief. Torah Mount Azazel (Jabel Munttar) in the Judean Desert Cliffs of Mount Azazel (Jabel Munttar) In the Hebrew Bible, the term is used three times in the Book of Leviticus, where two male goats were to be sacrificed to Yahweh and one of the two was selected by lot, for Yahweh is seen as speaking through the lots. [1] The very fact that the two goats were presented before God, before the one was sacrificed and the other sent into the wilderness, was proof that Azazel was not ranked alongside God, but regarded simply as the personification of wickedness in contrast with the righteous government of God.[1]. Aza
The Jewish people believed this. Ellen White did not originate the teaching.
“Then he shall kill the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, bring its blood inside the veil, do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and before the mercy seat”
Second goat. “The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to an uninhabited land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness”
The first goat is offered as a sin offering for the people. This way their sins are forgiven Without shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.
The second goat is cast out into the wilderness after all the sins of the people are laid on it. Notice the wilderness. Meaning it never comes to the camp again. It is cast out.
Also Ellen White is not the originator of this teachings; “ ……The English versions, such as the King James Version, followed the Septuagint and Vulgate in understanding the term Azazel as relating to a goat. The modern English Standard Version provides the footnote "16:8 The meaning of Azazel is uncertain; possibly the name of a place or a demon, traditionally a scapegoat; also verses 10, 26". Most scholars accept the indication of some kind of demon or deity,[15
It's great to see someone discussing this accurately. Thank you Pastor Mark Finley.
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Oh my WORD, She abandoned her infant son (a gift from the Lord) so she could travel/ "preach". I had no idea.
That was sad. A tough decision and perhaps she could have done better..... like many parents. Bible writers made mistakes too. As do we all.
Wow! I didn't know about that. What a disgusting person. A human mother's instinct is to be with her infant.
Maybe, like Apostle Paul, she had a demon. (The thorn Paul had was a high ranking angel of Satan.) The way Satan works is to mix a lot of good/neutral stuff with deadly lies.
Lol, do you abandon your child/children to go to work? Have you ever traveled to spread the gospel? Have you done anything to spread the gospel? Pls don't judge others, because you're not perfect. Don't be quick to judge.
@@lljl5310 No, I didn't abandon my children to go to work. My husband got a 2nd and sometimes a 3rd job so I could stay home. We made sacrifices. Being a good parent is the most important job in the world.
EGW added to the law, which is sin. She was a false prophet. She lied. She was a plagiarist. She did a good thing in teaching the 4th Commandment-- the weekly Sabbath. But she failed to uphold the importance and need to observe the 7 annual Sabbaths. So, she turned people against the law, and that also is a sin.
@@michelemoneywell8765you are nothing but a troll. Please go away. Trolling is a sin too.
I'm sorry I have never let some comments get under my skin. God bless you for your teachings. You have been a blessing to me ever since I became an Adventist 3yrs ago. Man there is so much hate in some of those people. I truthfully have never read any thing EGW has written that contradicts scripture. Thanks and God bless all. God bless pastor Mark and his ministry.
Hold on to Christ! Pray for those who abuse you! You will receive a crown from Jesus!
I can assure you that they are former Adventists who never read a single book she wrote. Disregard every thing they say. Their pledge is to troll all sda websites and discourage the members by pretending they know more than you know. Trust me they don’t. I have followed them including their leaders for sixteen years. They only succeed in confusing those who are not grounded in their faith. Ellen White reminded us that they will be our worst enemies. If we ignore them they will go away. They are not happy with their lives or where they are so attack sda so that they can feel better about their decision about leaving. Kind of what Satan did when he was cast out from heaven. He was enraged and went to make war with God’s children. Check out every single Video by SDA pastors and they will be there.
I read my Bible daily, God Bless Pastor Mark. Comments are good though, but for me, no comment will change my faith in the Church that Pastor belongs to. Simply because I know my Bible very well as I read it daily since 2018 to the present and I, therefore, come to realize that indeed God said He will have his people in the last days, God's remnant church in the last days will keep His commandment and faith in Lord Jesus Christ's second coming and Pastor Mark is preaching those message.
@@jack-buckhilll5428thanks my dear …….manna was given to Israelite everyday and so should we ❤
When I came to the faith,,I didn't even think she was a prophet but God showed me she was. I never saw any contradiction but daily, the bible is what I'd read 95% of the time. Ppl will read the pope and other writers and have no problem but they have a problem with her. If she stole other writing as some say,, then who reads the others stuff,, and if they do read and accept it then we've a worst case scenario, her writing is fine although some borrowed. I don't think that's the case but I've not seen and researched the evidence. I've never typedin her words and another writers words come up but I've no plans to go further. The bible alone. And if there'sa problem. The God who brought me this far supernaturally- not by man- will show me the truth. They never show what she said that did not come true. If I see things that did not come true then I'd have to rethink
If you are reading this, can you pray for me and my sister?
We are trying to lose weight to improve our health and have had some success but have stalled.
We need some help to from our Lord.
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We will pray for you 🙏🏾
Stick with it… it’s a life change and it doesn’t happen over night. May the Lord grant you guidance and strength.
@@CoffeeTeaWithSusan Thank you, luv. 🙂
That is what amazed me. Her writings. I have not read them all at all. But what I have read amazed me. I was very cynical about her. But reading even one book and just the first chapter amazed me.
Praise the Lord. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@@JamieElison Even if EGW got it from other sources who told her what to get and what not to receive? The Holy Spirit. MANY other Bible prophets quoted from others, yet they were inspired. Paul, for example quoted profusely from the OT, yet he was inspired by the Holy Spirit.There are many errors, half truths or unuseful information mingled in the writings of good Christians who simply have not come to a full knowledge of truth. How did she avoid those to stay consistent with the unique Bible teachings that became Seventh-day Adventist teachings? Through Holy Spirit study and Revelation.
Besides, Walter Rea was disgruntled like many because they reject some point(s) of Sister White's teachings in the area of health especially or the PreAdvent Investigative Judgment.
Many do not understand the primary reason for health reform. It is to clear the mind to enable good mental clarity, reasoning, and judgment. To help us to understand spiritual things and come to correct conclusions on doctrinal issues. A careful, prayerful reading of her works will clear up issues rather than confuse minds.
@@maggiemae7539 she puts the Bible above anything she has written as does the church. And she and the church say everyone should study the Bible for themselves. Her work is not a substitute for the Bible. What I found was her writings make me see the Bible more deeply and the characters more alive and real.
Pastor I'm sooo happy that you are one of the thousands that stand to protect the Spirit of Prophecy. Praying for you and all the people of God.🙏🙏
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
A true prophet of God needs no hunan shield, as God takes care of them.
The apostle John said, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they be of God." We are supposed to test prophets and teachers. If a prophecy does not come to pass, then the prophet has either prophesied from their own heart or by a false spirit.
Well said
Thanks for your comment. Yes, if a prophecy of a person doesn't come true, then they are not from God. But you must also understand the conditional element of prophecy. Please read Jeremiah 18:7-10. It clearly shows the conditionality of the prophecy. A perfect example would be the situation of Jonah and the city of Nineveh. God through Jonah predicted that He would destroy the inhabitants of Nineveh, but because they repented, God spared them and relented of what He said He would do and this in fact after God through Jonah predicted that HE is going to destroy Nineveh. This shows an important truth about prophecy.There are prophecies that are conditional upon human reactions. So, this must be considered as well.
@@HL365God does not predict!
@HL365 Prophesies are not conditional unless God makes them conditional. Jonah literally SPOKE THE CONDITION telling people if they fasted for 40 days and turned from evil that “God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish”. Jonah’s prophecy didn’t fail but CAME TRUE because they did what God commanded and God honored his STATED condition that they may not perish. Ellen gave NO such conditions, and thus her prophesies were false. She claimed an angel told her that some people alive in her time would still be alive and translated at the time of the second coming. False. She prophesied England would declare war on the US during the civil war, it didn’t. She prophesied that Jerusalem would never be built up again, but it became the capital city of Israel in 1949. She claimed she had a vision from God of the shut door and that probation was closed, then denounced it. None of these had conditions attached to them when they were given as in the prophecy of Jonah. In fact, She can even say an angel spoke to her in vision and then copy her “vision” word for word from other authors…that does not sound like the Holy Spirit to me.
@HL365
This is a false argument used by all false prophets (ex. Joanna Southcott) the case of Jonah, which actually implied a condition whereas, Ellen White's was a straight prediction prompted by her angel 😢😂😂 yet, a failure which consequently became a conditional😮 😂
Thanks for the presentation. As an African Adventist Baha’i, there are no adequate words to express my gratitude to the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Due to my upbringing as Adventist, I revere Jesus Christ & His example of love. Also, I take healthful living seriously. Joining the Baha’i Faith’s community has only intensified my affection for the Adventist teachers who instilled in me a sense of sacred. I am the result of the message of Adventists & the example of its members. My adoration for Christ draws me towards Adventists & all Christians.
Thanks for watching and for your comment. It is quite interesting to know that you are both an Adventist and Baha'i. I wonder how that work since both of them are mutually exclusive. There is no compatibility between them. So, I don't understand how you can both be the same at once. Can you please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would be glad to talk to you about it?
I think I’m a prophet… 15:09. Why are we so bent on “restoring” the law when the law condemns us. The law serves a function and that is to show us how much we are in need of a savior. Any law keeping is a result of a growth in relationship with the Messiah. But to place such an emphasis on the law as if it will or can save us is creating a major stumbling block where there shouldn’t be one. Come to Messiah and He will lead us in all our ways. We only need to be obedient when He speaks to us; this is how we ought to keep the commandments as I understand it today. Are the tablets of stone good yes of course no one will deny that. But He, today, writes on and tugs on our hearts. Obey the commandments unto what He has asked of you in your heart; the place that no man can see except The Most High. And trust that it is not your law keeping that saves you but the blood of the Messiah. If it were up to the stone tablets, and even those things pressed on our hearts we’d all still walk out of the bank of deeds still in gross debt deserving death. We have to anchor our teachings on the blood only! The blood is the power to save and to change a person into a holy people.
Watch this to learn what we believe about the law: ua-cam.com/video/GqRQb2TscMA/v-deo.html
Dear Pastor Finley, Thankyou so much for openly and confidently dispelling myths and sharing the truth about Sister Ellen G White. Indeed she was an inspired women of God.
Even during the time of Jesus on this earth and in the Old Testament he used very simple people to be inspirational prophets, Kings, Queen, writers for him. We serve an almighty God of the universe. May we sincerely get ready for his soon coming. God bless anyone reading this. Trust God always. ❤️🙏🏽
Amen. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Some ministers are saying she was not aprophetess but just amessanger ineed help some misleading information are flooding everywhere.thank you for your presentation.from zambia
Thanks alot Pr Mark Finley for your inspirational sermons, especially I'm being blessed day by day by your "Hope for Africa" sermons
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
After the ''Great Disappointment'' and the countless unfulfilled prophecies of E,G White, it takes a special kind of thick in the head to go in the direction of the SDA's
Can you name some unfulfilled prophecies of Ellen White? Please email us at info@Hopelives365.com and we would be glad to talk to you about it.
For example?
@@HL365 Still waiting for England to attack the United States for one,,, and she said the Rebuilding Of Jeruselum would never occur ... and she predicted the return of Christ during the Civil War..... Going to another ''Planet with Enoch that had 7 moons to talk with ''Beautiful Beings'' that was a real brain twister even for a False Prophet like her/him
@@Eternal7834 go ahead and read my last comment I Have Plenty more this false prophet lied about ..
This cleansing theory and saying that in 1844 Yeshua entered the holy of holies is contrary to scriptures and in great error. While Stephen was being stoned in Acts7 , he saw the heavenly sanctuary and Yeshua was seen seated at the right hand of the father testifying that He had entered the holy of holies when He ascended. Be ye blessed.
Please see these presentations: 1844madesimple.org
In Acts 7 you don't see Jesus sitting. He is standing on the right hand of God. But it doesn't tell us anything about the location. God is not just limited to the holies of holies. His throne is moveable.
If you would like to learn more about it, please email us at info@Hopelives365.com and we would be glad to talk to you more about it.
When Jesus went to heaven, He entered the Holy place not the Most Holy place. Hebrews 9;11,12.
God bless everyone, Jesus Christ is Lord, for to love is the perfection of God, for God is love ❤
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
I'm so grateful God led me and my family to this church! After 30 + years of drug abuse and being completely lawless not to mention the most unlikely person to be saved ! I can now testify that Jesus Christ is my King and Savior!! I'm extremely greatful and in return, I want to serve Him with all my heart! I truly believe that the sda church is the remnant church, and I'm so very happy that the Lord has given me the privilege of being a part of it ! All glory forever belongs to Jesus Christ 🙌
Praise the Lord. What a wonderful testimony. We thank God with you for His marvelous working in your life. We would love to hear all about your testimony. Please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would be glad to hear your testimony.
Why did Paul wrote the book of Galatians? What was his message to the church? Paul says that if any man or woman preached another gospel other than the one the he preached, let he or she be accursed, even if its an angel. So, how could God changed his message to the church in 1844? The Bible tells us that in the last days many will give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. We don't need anymore prophecies other than what is written the 66 books of the Bible.
I can appreciate Pastor Finley… he explains the Bible & Prophecy in a simple way that anyone can understand. That’s a good thing.😊
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@@JamieElison quote---Can you show me one prophecy that he's told you that is true! Give me one!!--unquote
How many do you want?? EVERY Prophesy to this day have come true 100%!!! Apparently you know very little about history!!!
EVERY prophesy in the OT has come true.
@@JamieElison quote---Daniel 7, 8 ,9 ,+ 10 + 11 ,+ 12--unquote
Chapters? Verses???
---quote--- You got to stop.breaking the 9th commandant!!--unquote
Which 9th Commandment????/ THe catholic version or the Christian version???
btw--You got to stop.breaking the 9th commandant!! is an OPINION with NO FACTS--NO scripture!!!
btw---what about the 4th Christian Commandment?? Are you breaking that??? Ex 20:8-11 Hypocrite
@@JamieElison quote----not one prophecy in the book of Daniel is finished.!!Neither is Revelation chapter 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 and 20...--unquote
I NEVER said they were !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@JamieElison quote--- last time I checked..( the book of Daniel is in the Old testament..!)--unquote
Yes--and many of those prophesies HAVE come true!!!!
Ellen White was inspired by God. Her writtings are an inspiration to me. I have read the Hidtory of Redemtion and now reading The Conflict of the Ages. Thanks Postor Finley for explain the contribution of Ellen White.
And somehow the writing of Ellen White is lesser light and Bible is greater light although both are inspired by Holy Spirit.Something is not right.
Richard, thank you for your positive comment about your positive experience.
Tawng, we’ll be glad to explain it to you. Please email- info@hopelives365.com
But do you believe her when she disagrees with God in the Bible? That is the primary point. When they disagree, do you believe her or God?
It sounds very similar to Joseph smith's journey, only the church of Jesus Christ of later day saint's came first! 🙄
Oh yess if we fail to stand for our God now , are we going to stand on that great tribulations. I am a nurse as well. My family and I said we are not going to take the vaccine. I just told myself that I will stand like Easter, " If I perish I perish." Thank God a day before I was going to be stopped working, my family went to a season of prayer. When I went to work thr following day ready to leave my job. The government announced that " Noone should be forced to take the vaccine. Hallelujah God will never leave his own.
Thanks for sharing your testimony.
I will pray for your healing. God the Almighty is our great physician
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Thank you Pastor Mark. May God continue to bless you and use you.
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Rev. 17:14,
They shall make war with the lamb and the lamb shall overcome them. For he is the lord or lords and king of kings.and they that are with him are called the chosen and faithful.
Amen!
Amen 🙏🏾
Tim.2:19
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure having the seal.The Lord knoweth them that are his and let every one that nameth the name of Jesus Christ depart from iniquity.
Amen!
The Bible states ' do not add or take away.' Most Bible translators used words that best suits the terms used but making sure that the message is clearly based on the truths. However, if you intepret a chapter and verse incorrectly, then you are 'adding and subtracting.' Too bad when the mass is misguided.
Ask for Holy Spirit ❤
Amen❤
Maybe misinterpretation is adding and subtracting, which that is bad it’s a bit different.
God is able to take u thru your illness i am sick also but i know that there is hope❤
May you be healed in Jesus mighty name🙏🏽
Thank you.
Contrary to popular opinion… we as a church do not put EG White above the Bible & neither did Mrs. White…please understand that her writings are to be a lesser light that points us toward the Bible…😊
Amen. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
there is this saying in my country, "on the ground things are different". The traditional SDA baptismal vows are themselves nothing biblical by majority.....so much bent to cultist. The spirit of the pharisees is being kept alive in your SDA religion.
The so-called lesser light pointing towards the greater light is parrot speak. Ellen White indeed said her writings were barricaded by a "thus saith the Lord" and she said she had not written one heretical word.. You are all self decieved and your leader know it and they are keeping the deception going.
The SDA's, the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons all sprang from the Millerite movement. Wake up!
I find it incredibly strange that her story is incredibly similar to the story of Joseph smith's story only his church came first!
I belong to the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saint's, evangelicals always put my church down because we believe in revelations! And the restoration of Jesus Christ's church! Many things being said here are similar to the Mormon church!
HOLD FAST WHAT YOU HAVE (Rev. 2:25): Many professed in their comments that EGW's writings brought them to the SDA church. To me: I studied in SDA schools from class 1 till class 18 (Masters). I am still in the faith because of 1 Textbook we had in Class 9 & 10, namely "The PRINCIPLES OF LIFE", where it teaches SDA faith and beliefs. That's a fantastic book for a student. The 2nd book which is also my "hold fast" book, is the "EARLY WRITINGS". All SDA, even non-SDA, should read this book.
Praise the Lord. May God bless you.
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It’s amazing how Mark Finley twisted the scripture regarding the three items in the ark of the covenant.
- LAW- Mark says Jesus entered the most holy place in 1844 and illuminated the sabbath. The Bible says God called his Ten Commandments his TESTIMONY, placed all ten in the ark, all illuminated equally by his presence, not the sabbath only. And Hebrews 9-10 says Jesus has been in the most holy place ever since he resurrected, not in 1844. Also if the sabbath wasn’t illuminated till 1844 then why did others, such as 7th day Baptists, find light on the sabbath in the 16th century? Because the law has been illuminated since God spoke it with his own voice, put it in the ark in his presence, and when Jesus continually upheld all aspects of it. As long as you have a Bible in your hands it’s illuminated.
- MANNA- Mark says it represents the last day heavenly diet, without any scriptural backing. In John 6 Jesus explains manna represents HIM. “Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness...it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven. For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven and gives life to the world...I am the bread of life.”
- AARON’S ROD- Mark says it represents the last day prophet (Ellen White), again no scripture. The Bible (Num 17) says the rod represented the initiation of Aaron as high priest. The Bible (Heb 4:14) also teaches that Jesus was initiated as high priest after his sacrifice, thus the rod of the high priest now represents HIM.
Everything in the ark represents GOD, not one selected commandment, not a special diet, not a prophet named Ellen…but GOD. Which makes perfect sense why he made it his literal holy dwelling place.
Please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would be glad to answer all of your questions.
To all you critics on sister White, you all can’t change us (SDA)
We are God remnant church, we keep all the commandments of God according to Exodus, revelation and Jesus words John 14:15. We remember THE sabbath day not A sabbath day. Every sabbath we keep holy because of Ex 20:8. On Sunday you critics go to church because you said Jesus risen on that day, so every Sunday Jesus is risen for you and every sabbath we rest and honour God .
I wonder who is doing to the right thing? Satan is really a serpent but he can’t deceive SDA MEMBERS and thank God for Allen G white..
To all SDA MEMBERS. Stand firm. Rev 12:17/14:12 (the warning for Sunday church 18:14)
Our prophet Sister White Rev 19:10 and We who keep the commandments will see God face Rev 22:14😂😂🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for your perspective.
Reading so many books by E.G. White has been a blessing to me.
😩 Helena G, White has not been an inspiration to
Me, BUT JESUS CHRIST MY SAVIOR, MY ALL HAS,
JESUS CHRIST IS ALL SUFFICIENT FOR ALL OUR
NEEDS, ,, WHY DO PEOPLE TRY TO DEFEND THE
UNDEFENDABLE, IT'S NOT IN THE HOLY BIBLE,
THE HOLY SCRIPTURES,, ITS JUST HEAR SAY
AND JUST BE CAREFUL WITH THOSE WHO
TWIST THE SCRIPTURES FOR THEIR OWN
PERDITION, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE GOD SEAL
OF APPROVAL, DON'T BELIEVE IT, DON'T BUY IT,
THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL REVEAL WHAT IS GOD'S
AND WHAT IT'S NOT,, WHO'S PORTRAYING HIMSELF
AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT??? AND MOST OF THE
WORLD IS FALLOWING HIM,, ANTICHRIST WILL
BE HIS PERSONIFICATION BRINGING A FALSE
PEACE TO THE WORLD AND THEY WILL BELIEVE
HIM AND WITH HIM THE "FALSE PROPHET" AND
SO THE WORLD COMMENCING WITH ISRAEL WILL
FALL IN HIS TRAPPED,, BECAUSE THE WORLD
REFUSE TO BELIEVE GOD'S TRUTH THEY WILL FALL
FOR THE SATANIC LIES TO FALLOW HIM ON THE
WIDE WIDE ROAD THE PATH TO OBLIVION, TO THE
ETERNAL DARKNESS OF DAMNATION IN THE
LAKE OF FIRE, FOR THE JUST JUDGEMENT OF GOD
WILL COME AGAINST ALL THE CHILDREN OF
DISOBEDIENCE, THEY DISREGARD THE LIGHT
WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST FOR THE DARKNESS
OF SATAN, SO THEY WILL ABIDE WITH HIM AND
THE FALSE PROPHET IN THEIR PAINFUL HELL
OF FIRE FOR EVERLASTING SUFFERING, FOR
THEY DID NOT ACCEPT JESUS SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS FOR THEIR SALVATION, SO, SO, VERY SAD,
ISN'T IT? WHAT MEN SOW WILL REAP, FOR THE
WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, BUT THE GIFT OF GOD
IS ETERNAL LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS, CHOOSE THE
LORD JESUS CHRIST, WILL YOU? AMEN, 🙏🕊️🙏..
LUIS RIVERA, CHICAGO ILLINOIS, USA, PRAISE GOD..
Praise the Lord. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
My only comment would be about how our educational system has left the original blueprint. The church (in this respect) has failed our youth.
Could you please explain your concern and email us at info@Hopelives365.com and we would be glad to talk to you about it?
Definitely... if i had school age children i would home school..
I read and LOVE EGWhite books….but recently there have been some photos resurfacing showing her and the pioneers doing Mason hand symbols. And James White’s tombstone having an a obelisk. Anyone want to explain??
Thanks for your comment and for reaching out to us.
Regarding the obelisk, please read this: m.egwwritings.org/en/book/13960.165
And for other enquiries please visit this: www.ellenwhiteanswers.org/answers/mischarges/were-the-founders-of-seventh-day-adventistism-free-masons/
So sorry. I know it is a daily battle. May God heal and comfort you.
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
So, the writing of Ellen Wite is the second Holly Spirit for you...?! Sorry ,,, you talk more about Ellen Wite then about Lord Jesus or another profet from the Bible..no ,,no,,,, that's idolatry
We believe that the writings of Ellen White inspired by the Holy Spirit as the books of the Bible were. Because this particular presentation talks about Ellen White, that is why Pastor Finley is talking about Ellen White quite a lot. Consider watch this presentation and your opinion will change: ua-cam.com/play/PLILDvXAtv9JhTnlAFfsG2_JdFbzYuaQhI.html
You know not what you believe and speak. But we know what we speak and belief. Exactly the same way Jesus also spoke to a Samaritan woman at well in John 4:22, "Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.".
Jews nation was selected to spread the Gospel, but they refused to accept and do so. In our age, God have chosen SDA church to spread true gospel, salvation belongs to Law Keepers. God will bring Sunday keeping synagogue of Satan to worship Him before SDA people's feet.
Oh how little do we often appreciate the gift of the Spirit of Prophecy!!
May we all continue to be blessed by these inspired writings. May they continue to point us to greater and greater deeper and deeper Bible study!!
Absolutely, Beatrice! Well said.
How many times does it take for a "prophet" to be wrong to be labeled a false prophet?
None. Bible tells, Jeremiah 28:9 : "When the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet know that the Lord has truly sent him."
Deuteronomy 18:22 : "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him."
These verses clearly teach that when the prediction of the prophet does not take place, He is not sent from God.
But when talking about predictions, one must take into consideration the conditional element as well. Look at Jonah for example. Jonah preached that in 40 days the city of Nineveh would be destroyed. But because the people repented, God relented from destroying. Now, does this mean Jonah was a false prophet? No. We must understand the conditional nature of prophecy.
Jeremiah 18:7-10: "7. At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it; 8. If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them. 9. And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; 10. If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them."
Here are some more passages: Jer 26:2-6; Deut 4:9; 8:19; 28:1,2,13-15.
Another factor to consider is also that Satan can make limited predictions about the immediate future. An example would be Saul who came to know about his impending demise from the witch of the Endor (1 Samuel 28:19).
So, while accurate predictions are still the tests of a true prophet, they need to be accepted with these qualifications.
Was she shown that Martians lived on Mars? If yes, who showed her that? If this idea is stupid, can other visions she had, also stupid?
No where in her writings does Ellen White write that she saw people living in the planet Mars. And no, her visions are not stupid. They are inspired.
And it was not shown to be true, so she is a false prophet. Why can't these people see that the Bible is the source of God's instruction to His people?
I just want to bring to attention to the sda members that there is going to be a lot of opposition to Ellen White teachings here.
Some of it outright rude. Please ignore these writers.
Majority are former Adventists and their special mission is to cause doubt and disillusionment in EGW writings. Majority never read a single book she wrote. They spread lies propagated by their leaders. Some who are former pastors.
Just because someone doesn't believe Ellen white message and they comment in a manner in which you disapprove, doesn't make them a propaganda spreader or liar like CNN or MSM. That is there right to voice his/her opinion, just as it was for you to let the devil anger you into downing them for posting there point of view.
@@Wolfman1987yes I have a problem. Come here with facts not lies you cannot substantiate. How would you feel if someone came to you with lies about someone you like. Would you think it is okay? Wha5 if you knew their motives? Those who lie about you are those who have fallen out with you. So let them tell us why and not make things up.
@@AnnWan-bs2xn I do have facts and your teachers and administrators blocked me from this page meanwhile left comments up from "eatmyshorts 4727" to try and "show" that the only people that think she is a false prophet are people with inappropriate user names. This is called propaganda and censorship. Same thing Hitler did. Same thing evil ones did to the men of God.
I have to creat 500 emails just to get a comment across. What does that tell you. I have 100's of evidences that this woman is false and it is largely scriptures. This church is in fact a cult.
I do have facts and your teachers and administrators blocked me from this page meanwhile left comments up from "eatmyshorts 4727" to try and "show" that the only people that think she is a false prophet are people with inappropriate user names. This is called propaganda and censorship. Same thing Hitler did. Same thing evil ones did to the men of God.
@@AnnWan-bs2xn I do have facts and your teachers and administrators blocked me from this page meanwhile left comments up from "eatmyshorts 4727" to try and "show" that the only people that think she is a false prophet are people with inappropriate user names. This is called propaganda and censorship. Same thing Hitler did. Same thing evil ones did to the men of God.
My name is Frankie Awaita & I'm from PNG. I'm so blessed with the holy words you've shared in the Bible and would much appreciate if you could send me some Bible text or Bible study lessons.Thank you God bless.
Hi Frankie, thanks for reaching out to us. Please email us at info@Hopelives365.com and we would be glad to connect you with someone who can do Bible study with you.
Lord, please help us to surrender self, to be led by You wherever You lead, Lord I pray for anyone that needs prayer in these comments, Lord please help us to be one in You that the world may believe that the Father has sent you! 🙏🏻
I have been blessed with My walk with Jesus because of His word and Mrs.White's writings, and thank God for her, she was Fully inspired! 🫶🏻
My.onky question about any prophet is, did anything they say come true...if just 1 is off, they're a pretender and only deserve stoning...according to scripture.
Yes, I will mention just one that you can prove. She insisted that the church buy Loma Linda when they were reluctant to do. This is what she told them
“ A school will be established here. Redlands will become a center as also will Loma Linda. Battle Creek is going down. God will reestablish His medical work at this place (Johns and R. H. Utt, p. 179).
You can read for yourself online the miracle it took to get Loma Linda. You know that it us one of the best medical schools and institutions in North America. She died in 1915. How would she had known that Battle Creek Sanitarium would go down? It continued until 1943.
Think of Jonah, a true prophet, but Nineveh was not destroyed because it repented. Sometimes God gives a conditional prophecy dependent upon a person's or nation response. Jer. 18 explains it more.
Stoning is not a thing anymore. Just FYI. Do you have any examples where EGW was wrong?
@@AnnWan-bs2xn
That is an amazing read.
@@justamessenger4577 praise the Lord, if you read online the struggle it took to get Loma Linda you will see Satan was doing everything to stop its purchase. Thankfully Ellen White was insistent because she knew the God she served is mightier.
I have found Ellen White’s writings very inspiring and gets me to spend more time in the bible
Praise the Lord. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Pastor Finley
Praise God. He has raised you and other Pastors who are bold in defending the Spirit of Prophecy. We want to hear the lecture about Daniel and the Revelations. Thanks Pastor 🙏
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
What happens to all those Christians before Ellen G white came along with this teaching who have been worshipping on Sunday, the first day of the week, like it says in Acts 20:7 since Jesus resurrection.
Regarding Acts 20:7, please read this: www.sabbathtruth.com/faq/arguments-refuted/arg/id/1026/t/sunday-is-the-sabbath-since-the-disciples-broke-bread-then
And Ellen White did not come up with the teaching of the sabbath. It comes from the Bible. Please watch this: ua-cam.com/video/P8QYVLD4aqE/v-deo.html
@@HL365 Genius 1, in the beginning God said "Let there be light" that light I am sure was the Sunday, which was the first day of the week. It was always called the first day of the week, later the days were named. Sunday makes sense since the light was the sun. Jesus later had the apostle meet Him 40 days later on Sunday, which was called Pentecost, to receive the Holy Spirit. Twist it if you want, but they worshiped on Sunday and any other day of the week they wanted to.
One of the founders of the seventh day adventist was Uriah Smith witch never gets a mention but who wrote the explanation of the book of genesis where a lot of bible study is focused on his book and writings but Ellen white is almost all the time referred back to, not Uriah Smith as if he did not exist i have one of the original books written by him my copy was the second edition of explanation of the book of Genesis. We all need to read the bible from front to back then back to front and only go off the word of God.
Read Timmothy 2:10 to -15 and read the hole passage. The words are 10: But (whitch becometh women professing godliness) with good works. 11: Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection 12: But i suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed then Eve. 14: And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was the transgression.
then again in Corinthians One 14.34-35 Let your woman keep silent in the churches,for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive as the law also says. 35; And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church 36; Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached?
We all make the mistake of not reading the bible all the way through we all try and put our own spin on the holy word of God or listen to our priests ,kohen or pastors not questioning them I made the mistake in church of saying was in my truck looking for a church that weekend to go to church i spotted an Anglican church displaying a pride flag and said i would not go into a church displaying the pride flag was asked what was a pride flag i replied the gays flag immediately got shot down in bible study saying to me we are trying to include everyone this was in a Seventh day Adventist church in Australia
Are we all deaf to Mathew 7 -15 Beware of false prophets, witch come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravering Wolves You are on about E white not on God that's not following the bible that's following Ellen White
Well said!!!
100%
Hi Mark, you may have misunderstood a few things here. Please email us this comment so we can clarify it for you. Our email- info@hopelives365.com
I did reply to hope lives but you never answered me but do not get me wrong I enjoy your sermons but we must never stray away from the word of God we all can read the Bible yet still misinterpreted what God & Jesus is saying but I still believe that a woman cannot preach in church period even Vodi Bocom is stead fast in this part of the bible teachings
Ellen G White is God ordained: anyone ordained to do the work of God is Spirit filled ; He inspires through thought and offers dreams to paint a picture sometimes . men and women are blessed accordingly and dictates to Ellen White who wrote as it was spoken to the heart , the conscience - the conduits through which God inspires. 27:09
33:10 The writing style is self evident , that of the divine author HimSelf. Amen
@@JamieElison
Jesus Christ is a Lamb not a goat. the goat you are speaking of is an offering for sins of says it is an atonement for himself and household and the Jewish congregation for Israel. Christ is the God man , the final atonement for all mankind. What enters the tabernacle must be Holy in the sight of God but it is a goat not a lamb.
Thank you for your comment on Ellen White! She was indeed God’s messenger.
So for over 1800 years people have been worshipping God on the wrong day, what happened to all of them
I completely agree with Pastor Mark! Thank you, Pastor Mark, for the good explanation. As for me, that Ellen White is leading people to God's word/law is the most crucial and significant, while all the other churches are leading people away from God's law and making them lawless Christians. I respect and admire Ellen White with all her minor errors. Yes, she was a divinely inspired Christian! ❤
Amen! Thank you for your comment.
@@HL365 Subject: Clarification Needed Regarding the Belief in Archangel "Michael"
I'd like to talk to you about what has been bothering me recently. I've just learned that Adventists believe Archangel "Michael" was one of the names of Jesus Christ. Frankly speaking, I was shocked. Michael is one of the chief princes (Daniel 10:13), but Jesus is NOT one of a few major princes. He is very unique! He is the only begotten Son of the Father, and He identified Himself as YHWH (Jn 8:58), and He was with the Father before the World (Jn 17:5). Jesus created angels with the Father and the Holy Spirit. In Genesis 2, it says YHWH made Adam and Eve. Michael is the loyal chief angel of Jesus, and he will never pretend to be Jesus. Only a devil will pretend to be Jesus. Is there any possibility that the SDA Church re-establish their position on the relationship of Jesus and Michael? If not, I cannot join the church. Please give me your insight and advice on that subject.
well said pastor Finley God bless you.I pray and hope that every SDA who doubt the the spirit of prophecy will know that they are doubting God.God bless you pastor Finley
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Question for SDAs: Why did Mark not deal with any of the issues regarding Ellen Whites failed prophecies, showing she doesn’t fit the biblical qualifications for such?
Why did he recycle the same talking points the SDA Church has circulated for decades?
Why did he mention her 2000 supposed visions as some monumental feat, when in her VERY first supposed vision, she falsely claimed to given the day and hour of Jesus’s return?
Why did he ignore that she blatantly contradicts Genesis 3:6 in Patriarchs and Prophets, pg. 52-55 where she claims Eve wandered away from Adam contrary to the supposed warning from an Angel, was tempted alone, ate the fruit, and then took armfuls of it to find Adam to tempt him?
Why does she contradict the scriptures regarding Adam being the only one tempted, and Eve not, in that same section of pages?
Ellen White doesn’t even come close to passing the biblical test of a prophet. And it’s dishonest leadership like this that keep shilling out the same tired talking points to try and keep the facade and grift alive.
Shame on you, Mark. Especially when you claim to be the “commandment keeping church.”
its just pr. i feel sorry for the masses still trapped in. i used to be one till i came accross your channel and dr allen. best we can do is pray and keep on with a apologetics..its a huge trap, the denomination, it goes under radar due to minimal physical cult rituals..its mostly theologically cultish..
I can tell you have not read any of her books. Well, I have read most of her books and am a Bible student. I find no conflict. Read a few of her books yourself and you will see.
Your point 1) You don't even mention what so-called false vision you are referring to. But if there is one, remember the conditional prophecy God gave Jonah re Nineveh. Was Jonah a false prophet?
2) I just reread Ellen's first vision and there is no mention of a date set for Jesus to return. Before her first vision, she believed like many Protestants that Jesus would come between Oct 22, 1843 or Oct 221844 based on Daniel 8 and 9, but that was before her first vision. 3) Read the first few chapters of Patriarchs and Prophets entirely and you will find no conflict with Genesis. 4) I have read most of her books and she is right on target. Your summary dismissal is worthless hot air. You provide no solid evidence.
If you want to know why he didn’t deal with any of the failed prophecies, you should ask him. The problem you have is there are no failed prophecies. Whatever you think is a failed prophecy, please share. If you share one, make sure you show which book and page number it is on.
Why the same talking points? Why not? Why do you care if you don’t agree? Lol Is there more you like to hear?
On her first vison:
“I have not the slightest knowledge as to the time spoken by the voice of God. I heard the hour proclaimed, but had no remembrance of that hour after I came out of vision. Scenes of such thrilling, solemn interest passed before me, as no language is adequate to describe. It was all a living reality to me.”-Ellen G. White Letter 38, 1888, published in Selected Messages 1:76. EW 298.1
Ellen white said that the time and date was said in the vision but she did not remember it after the vision was over. There is precedence for this in revelation 10:3-4 where John was told not to write what he heard.
Ellen white did not contradict genesis 3:6, Eve was by herself when she talked to the serpent. Genesis 3:13; 2 Corinthians 11:3, and 1 Timothy 2:14 show that only Eve was deceived. If Adam was with eve when the serpent was talking to her, then the Bible would not say only eve was deceived. Adam would have been deceived along with her.
You will have to show where in patriarchs and prophets EGW said that only Adam was deceived.
How would you test someone to determine if they are a true prophet or not?
@@lizhall2961 really? So that’s just made up?
“While praying at the family altar, the Holy Ghost fell on me, and I seemed to be rising higher and higher, far above the dark world. I turned to look for the Advent people in the world, but could not find them-when a voice said to me, “Look again, and look a little higher.” At this I raised my eyes and saw a straight and narrow path, cast up high above the world. On this path the Advent people were traveling to the City, which was at the farther end of the path. They had a bright light set up behind them at the first end of the path, which an angel told me was the Midnight Cry. This light shone all along the path, and gave light for their feet so they might not stumble. And if they kept their eyes fixed on Jesus, who was just before them, leading them to the City, they were safe. But soon some grew weary, and they said the City was a great way off, and they expected to have entered it before. Then Jesus would encourage them by raising his glorious right arm, and from his arm came a glorious light which waved over the Advent band, and they shouted Hallelujah! Others rashly denied the light behind them, and said that it was not God that had led them out so far. The light behind them went out leaving their feet in perfect darkness, and they stumbled and got their eyes off the mark and lost sight of Jesus, and fell off the path down in the dark and wicked world below. It was just as impossible for them to get on the path again and go to the City, as all the wicked world which God had rejected. They fell all the way along the path one after another, until we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus’ coming.”-A Word To the Little Flock, g. 14 (WLF 14.2)
Same thing published in the Testimonies…
“Soon we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus’ coming. The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spake the time, He poured upon us the Holy Spirit, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God, as Moses’ did when he came down from Mount Sinai.”-Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 1, pg. 59 (1T 59.1)
I could go on and on and on.
“Read her books for yourself and you’ll see”
I have, which is why I’m saying what I am. Why do you assume I haven’t? I’ve read thousands of pages of Mrs. White.
I am thankful for the writings of Ellen White as well as the Bible for 50 years. I do not have to choose between them. Having read most of her books and the Bible, I can testify that I found her words to reflect those of Holy Scriptures. Her words aren't a part of the Bible, but point to it. She was a non-canolical prophet like Elijah, Elisha, Hudah, John the Baptist, Philips daughter.
Amen
Amen
Praise the Lord! You have understood her writing correctly in relation to the Bible.
The only problem is when applied the Biblical test of a prophet to her, she fails.
@@thisisvolpix Explain. From your own investigation after reading her books and not from hearsay.
Am reading, Ministry of Healing
She encourages you to fast if we are having a health issue,
Fasting really work, it gives the body a kick start to new health,
Even doctors agree, to fast, especially those doctors who love nutrition.
I thanku so much for this.I had a friend who was struggling in believing her writings all because of the Great disappointment in 1844.He wouldnt believe she was a prophetess and making errors like that.He said God's prophets wirds are always true.I tried many times to convince him, I think he just wanted more information pertaining to her.I wasnt able to give him much, because at the time I was still young at my christian experience.However unfortunately a few mths later he died.I think genuinely he wanted to know.I said to myself God knows his heart.He was a christian not SDA but I believe I will see him again when Jesus comes.I always.regretted not able to give him the full explanation.I leave this in GOD'S hands.
Hi Michelle, Sorry for the loss of your friend. It is quite sad that he died with many truths unheard of or unanswered. But as you said, God judges us based on what we know not based on what we don't know. Jesus said that to whom much is given much is required. So, let's be faithful to him.
And just for future reference, it is a misconception that Ellen White predicted 1844 as the year that Jesus would come. But the truth is it was William Miller, not Ellen White who predicted the year. Ellen White was called into prophetic ministry couple of months after the disappointment.
To children of the Lord: SDA is God remnant church, not a Satan church .. All Sunday observant is disrespecting God forth commandment that’s said to REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY. It didn’t said to Remember a sabbath day.. Therefore revelation 12:17/14:12/18:14/19:10 and 22:14 belongs to God remnant end time people and those verses only fits SDA. Therefor Sister White must be a true prophet because God wouldn’t destroy his own people.
The people disrespecting the he sda and Ellen White are former Adventists. Sister Ellen said we should worry more about them than the world. They will be our worst enemies. Notice how bitter they sound. Sunday keepers are not usually so vitriolic.
@@AnnWan-bs2xn I see now, wolves got in and got out to do wolfy job...Wolves will always be wolves and die as wolves. Forgive them!
@@jack-buckhilll5428 exactly. Their motives are evil, they plant seeds of doubt in new believers because they sound knowledgeable. They are here on a mission. They are a scourge and their leaders proudly exhort them for their success in what they are doing. May they fail miserably.
@@shirleytaylor2590 you are writing that yourself come out and say what you want. No one is censuring you but yourself.
That is why Jesus came back for SDAs in 1844.
Truth! Praise God.
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Charles J Pace who runs Waco Texas where Koresh was thinks he is the Prophet of today. He likens tRump unto Christ and says that AI will try to run this world and that is the war that is prophesied. He says that Sabbath is not on Saturday anymore either that it is Sunday because of our screwed up calendar and he figured out that if we did not screw up the calendar it would be Sunday now. . I tend to understand this . Mount Carmel where they are in Texas outside of Waco is on the same latitude as Jerusalem. He says there is an Aquaphor under their land there. Something is happening there..
The Bible presents many reasons for testing prophets. Not everyone who claims to be a prophet is a prophet. In fact, the Bible clearly tells us how we determine a prophet. One of the tests of the prophet is that they abide by the scriptures (Isaiah 8:20). But this person contradicts it all. It is blasphemous to call a human being as Christ.
Additionally, the change in the calendar has not changed the weekly cycle. Please read this: www.sabbathtruth.com/faq/frequently-asked-questions/ans/id/922/t/hasn-t-the-calendar-been-changed-
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I'm so happy that although I don't read understand Arabic, this message is going to Arabic Bothers & Sisters on social media.
I praise God for them. "In Times like these we all NEED a Saviour, for Jesus is no respector of persons... ALL ARE WELCOME! Hallelujah!
If an alleged prophetic word comes to be untrue then the prophet is false
Thanks for your comment. Yes, if a prophecy of a person doesn't come true, then they are not from God. But you must also understand the conditional element of prophecy. Please read Jeremiah 18:7-10. It clearly shows the conditionality of the prophecy. A perfect example would be the situation of Jonah and the city of Nineveh. God through Jonah predicted that He would destroy the inhabitants of Nineveh, but because they repented, God spared them and relented of what He said He would do and this in fact after God through Jonah predicted that HE is going to destroy Nineveh. This shows an important truth about prophecy.There are prophecies that are conditional upon human reactions. So, this must be considered as well.
@@nicetry620. I came out from a church where it was Jesus and another book of traditions etc. Now it's sola fede and sola scriptura
@@HL365God does not predict!
Ellen White always points to Jesus- she writes about Him with so much adoration and live that I also want to know Him that well.
Amen. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Randy Skeete introduced this remarkable prophetess to me her words greatly open my eyes
Praise the Lord. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
Even Paul Harvey when science discovered that cancer was a virus said, Ellen White, right again"!
Yes, Paul Harvey had many good things to say about Ellen White.
forget about her gender as a female, just read what she is saying compare it with the bible let the spirit of God be your guide, people . Press on Pastor.
Amen. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.
Proverbs 25 chapter - Bible - King James Bible
That's everything that I wanna say.
Only Holly Bible is Lord's Words. All prophets was until Jhon Babtise.
Sadly to hear that somebody wants to establish something another except Bible and proclaiming Gospel of Jesus Christ!
The writings of Ellen White is not the Bible, and is not replacing the Bible. Her writings point people back to you Bible. If you’d like to discuss this further, please email- info@hopelives365.com
@@HL365 they lead back to Bible? Don't kidding at me! And have fear of God! They lead far far away from Bible.
During 30 years being seven day adventist I never knew mercy of Lord and Saviour - Jesus Christ reading seven day Adventist books.
This church definitely will answer before God for all works which they did!
Explain why cancer heart disease diabetes is so prevalent in the United States. It's not from eating a high fat diet I can tell you that
Probably from all the additives the food companies are putting in the stuff we eat. It's all about feeding the masses. They don't care about the consumers health.
Smoking, drinking and yes meats can give you cancer as too much fat can give you heart disease
Sin
@@lindaschipansky4429If that was the answer, everyone would have it. Or are you trying to tell me you are a sinless person. That's a silly answer
@@eatmyshorts4727 No one is sinless
The movie, Go Tell the World" is an excellent movie! I have watched it about 6 times, (yes 6 times😊) and have learned something new every time. Be blessed. 🙏 🙏 🙏
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I thank God for EGW's writings and believe with all my heart that she was inspired by the Holy Spirit, and is therefore a true prophet. Before reading any of her books, I hardly read the Bible and had no devotions. But after reading the great controversy, I was deeply convicted of my sins and developed a relationship with God through reading his word and prayer early hours of morning and before I go to bed. EGW points us back to the bible. When I read her books (I do so everyday), I fall in love with Christ more and more and that inspires me to read the Bible more. . Most critics have never read her books which is sad because they are missing out on blessings. In order to appreciate her writings, one has to be open minded and allow God's Spirit to guide him or her.
Thanks for sharing your testimony. May God continue to guide you and may you grow in His knowledge.
@@HL365 Thank you! Blessings to you.
Amen, LORD!!!❤❤❤
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if someone writes a book about the words of God. that means I have to follow the writer, otherwise you give that person all the credit. So . think carefully about who you follow.
I don't understand what your question is. Can you please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would be glad to talk to you about it?
Think you for your opinion.
Everything written on the bible were written by people through the leading of Holy Spirit. They point to Christ Jesus. Reading and following Bible doesn't mean we follow the writers.
Ellen G white writings points to the bible. She based on bible. Her writings reflect Christ. Using the Bible as the standard and agreeing to her writings doesn't mean we are following her or see her as our God.
I pray that may Lord Jesus our soon coming King gives your wisdom and understanding to discern.
May God add His blessings.
Amen❤
God bless all answer
Reading Steps to Christ helped draw me to Jesus Christ. Elen G. White had a gift for God.
Praise the Lord. May God bless you.
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CExodus 31:18
“And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.”
King James Version (KJV)
God communicated through Moses, a prophet.
If ellen white had not sustained the head/brain injury when she was 9 i am convinced the SDA would not exist today.
Adventist church does not depend on Ellen White for its existence because none of our doctrines are based on her writings. All of our doctrines come from the Bible. Here is a link where you can see them for yourself: www.adventist.org/beliefs/
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Because of her health issues and being bi-racial, she became a master scam artists for her" church"!
@@HL365
You are unbelievable, you know very well you pump it for all its worth with constant flowery language and untruths
From Ellen White (1827-1915) herself: “Some apply the solemn type, the scape goat, to Satan. This is not correct. He cannot bear his own sins. At the choosing of Barabbas, Pilate washed his hands. He cannot be represented as the scape goat…Christ was the scape goat, which the type represents. He alone can be represented by the goat borne into the wilderness. He alone, over whom death had no power, was able to bear our sins” (The Scapegoat in the Writings of Ellen G. White, Alberto R. Timm, Ellen White Estate, [taken from the internet on Oct 26, 2013]; Manuscript 112, 1897). Now, do we see a contradiction to her other statements? Of course, because she does that sort of stuff! She was not a true or real prophet. I pray God free us from her deceptions. 99% truth is still not truth, Ellen!
Please read this: www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1998/10/the-scapegoat
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Scapegoat is Satan. He bears all sin. Obviously.
Scapegoat will thrown into the lake of Fire. It will be done. One day soon.
Pilate washed his hands of Jesus' death. Read the the next verse. The radical Jews took the blood upon their generations. Jews accepted the blood/ blame.
Ahazazel is the scape goat … google who that is … it’s Satan .
William Miller first date of prediction was between March 1843 to March 1844. It failed. Samuel Snow was the one who came up with the October 22, 1844 through his 7th year Month explanation of the The Jewish Day of Atonement.
It failed again but this time round it was branded the Great Disappointment. Before, the Advent Millerite Group sold and gave up everything. School going children dropped. Families were neglected, business were left, crops which were ready for harvest were neglected. The next day after Disappointment, shame and guilt covered them, some committed suicide and many lost hope in Christ. This is what falsehood does. No truth of God in such confusion.
Now the same day, Hiram Edson and his friend were walking through the cornfield and he allegedly had a vision that Jesus was not to come to the earth but was moving into the Most Holy second apartment of the heavenly Sanctuary. By this those who tried to correct and prove the Millerites of their time setting fanaticism were proved right and the Millerite proved wrong however sincere they were.
Hiram Edson supposed vision has now been used to salvage the falsehood of William Miller and his followers. The Bible is clear that Jesus moved into the Most Holy place immediately He ascended into Heaven ( Hebrews 4:16, 6:19-20, 9:24-26).
Christ is always pictured at the right hand side of God and power. This is a proof that Hiram Edson in his bid to explain away the Great Disappointment also deceived the entire body of the small band of discouraged Adventists. William Miller, the author of that confusion later repented and said he had nothing to do with any other explanation for that failed prophecy.
Ellen G. White and her small band of disappointed Adventists wanted nothing to do with Miller confession. She went a head to set another date for the second coming of Christ. This time round it was a seven year period from 1844 to 1851. This is where the Shut-door theory comes in. She insisted that the probation was now closed to those who never accepted the midnight cry of 1844 and therefore they were lost. Like in the days of Noah, God has Shut them out while their small band was shut in.
1851 came and nothing happened. That was another series of falsehood. Since then Adcentism has built on falsehood until now with Visions of EGW where thousand of pages are plagiarised and twisted to make a denomination.
There is a special place in hell for false prophets.
Thanks for your comment. If you consider the disappointment as a reason to say that the Adventist movement is falsehood, then the beginning of the christian church itself is falsehood. You see, when Jesus died on the cross, the disciples were just as disappointed or even more disappointed. But out of this disappointment they studied prophecies that helped them understand the misconception they had regarding the nature of Christ's coming. If you study carefully, there was a clearly parallel between the disappointment that the disciples faced and the starting of the christian church and the disappointment that the millerite faced and the beginning of the Adventist Church. Please watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/L-0cauJvcMA/v-deo.html
Plus, we do not know for sure if Hiram Edson has a vision or not.
But regarding your claim that Jesus went into the Most Holy Place using that passage, please email us at info@Hopelives365.com
Plus, Ellen White did not predict that Jesus would come back in 1851. That is false information. To understand shut door, please read this: whiteestate.org/about/issues1/unusual/shut-door/
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Every cult would use the Bible to defend their stand just like you have used the disappointment of the Disciples to explain away the 1844 disappointment. Jehovah Witness and many other cults can also use that same defense.
Now you know that Oct. 22. 1844 was not the original date set for the coming of Christ by the Millerites. Before it was March 1843 to March 1844. It failed, that's when Samuel Snow came in to explain the disappointment and gave the Oct. 22 1844. You can't explain that because the whole thing was first built on deceptions.
It was the so called dream of Hiram Edson that salvaged the whole disappointment. He allegedly saw that Jesus was moving into the Most Holy place in heaven. Here lies the deception: Jesus moved into the Most Holy Place immediately after His ascension ( Hebrews 4:16,6:19-20,9:24-26).
Christ is always seen standing or seating at the Right hand of the throne of God.
About the Shut-door: EGW after realizing that they taught error now went a head to say that all these happened before she received the vision.
At least she agreed that she together with the small band they taught an error of the shut door.
But still she believed that there was a shut door at Noahs day and Christ's day. So she uses that to imply that there was another shut door at Millerite Great Disappointment. Yet this prophecy was false. Jesus was not to come in 1844 neither was He moving to the most Holy place on that day. He moved there immediately He ascended. So still EGW proves that she was believing in the falsehood of 1843-1844.
She accuses believers that they were left in darkness by the midnight cry of 1844 yet nothing like that happened.
You can't convince us that EGW is a true prophet when she has lived her life in falsehood.
Daniel 8:14 in context doesn't even talk about the 1844 thing.
There is a special place in hell for false prophets: Joseph Smith, Mary Baker Eddy, Ellen G. White, Jehovah Witness and
By the way, Christian Church didn't begin with any disappointment. That is another lie that you people are selling the world just to defend EGW.
Christian Church began with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Pentecost where there was first conversion of Jews and Gentiles into the Church.
The Church is made up of believing Jews and Gentiles not an exclusive club of Jews disciples whose Messiah was crucified some few days ago.
Look Admin: there was nothing and there is nothing in the Bible that implies anything prophetic took place in 1843-1844.
Daniel 8:14 read into context doesn't say such a thing. The temple in Daniel 8 is not the heavenly temple but the Jewish temple in Jerusalem:
The little horn was responsible for:
1. Conquering the lands on the south, east and on the pleasant land ( Jerusalem).
2.Casting and stamping down some of the heavenly host and stars.
3. Magnifying himself against the Prince of the host.
4. Stopping the sanctuary daily sacrifices (evening and mornings sacrifices).
5. Polluting the sanctuary/ casting down
6.Cast down truth
All these were to take place in a period of 2300 evenings and mornings or 1150 days. Thereafter, the sanctuary was to be restored into its rightful place or state. This is one of the defilement of the sanctuary a Jewish center of worship that took place.
It has nothing to do with 1844 thing of William Miller.
EGW after studying Joseph Bates article on Sabbath now resorted to build a religion focused on Sabbath keeping as a requirement for salvation.
Sabbath apart from the Sanctuary Message has been the cornerstone of Adventism. It is all in all that determines whether one is saved or not. Those who lives in the final days according to EGW must take their stand on the side of the Sabbath or Sunday. Not even on the side of Jesus.
This is falsehood at par and anyone who studies the Bible will never fall into such nonsense unless his mind is contaminated with EGW writings.
For Christians, days don't save them . Their salvation is in Christ alone. Their ultimate Rest is not found on a day but a person. They don't wait until the weekend ends to have a relationship with God. They have it everyday.
The Holy Spirit is their seal given to them at the point of their belief and He is a guarantee to their salvation. They don't have a seal of a day to keep to be saved. That is devil mind of thinking.
All these proves the falsehood of Adventism. No Bible believing, studying Christian can believe in EGW, Joseph Smith, Mary Baker Eddy or Jehovah witness..
Thank you Pastor,truly her writings ,the gift ofProphecyis arecious gift to us Seveth Day Adventist as the Last Day Church
I mean the Spirit of Prophecy is a previous gift to us a the last day church
I mean Amen,EGW writings is a precious gift to the SDA church the last day church
Yes, you are right. The writings of Ellen White are a gift to us.
The Church/SDA accepts Ellen’s writings as inspired and crucial,but in the 28 Fundamental Beliefs which mark the basis of our faith,Ellen White is scarcely mentioned!
Why?
Very good question. It is important that while we accept Ellen White as inspired, our doctrines are not based on her writings or on any of our mission. That is why you will only find scriptural references that teach our fundamental beliefs.
Ellen White writings are based on bible, she pointes to the bible. Our fundamental believes must be rooted also to Bible. ❤
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@@HL365 You didn't support your beginning setup with Scripture, ie saying what the ark contents signified.
Thanks my spiritual pastor and elder for the spiritfill sermon.From Papua new Guinea in Pacific ocean .
You’re welcome!
Good vision thanks 🙏
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Its not time to proclaim Ellen white but Jesus alone
Which is what Mrs White did. I think thats the point.
The writings of Ellen White were given by Jesus. To reject her writings would be to reject the message that Jesus sends to us.
I personally have no prob wt EGW, however one pastor did note that her writings are not to be used in place of the scripture. This came out of a gen discussion... many were talking, i was talking to a lady and i told her that my experience was one in which i came to the Lord in a crusade through straight up pray and biblical teaching....didn't read any EGW at that stage. I prayed earnestly to God & read the bible. So i tried to explain to her that she cannot say that i would not enter God's Kingdom if i didn't read EGW books. The look she gave me i knew that was exactly what her thoughts were. The latter was later confirmed in another conversation she was having with someone else. Yesterday Sabbath morning, a sister told me that some just prefer to read her books because the bible is boring. From what i have read in EGW writings i could tell you she would not be pleased with that outlook. ALL GLORY be to our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Ellen White was given the given the gift of prophecy, but her writings are not the Bible, neither do they replace the Bible. Instead, it points its readers to the Bible. Furthermore, the Bible teaches that salvation is in Jesus alone (Acts 4:12) and Ellen White’s writings teaches the same. So people can be saved, even if they haven’t read her writings, as long as they’ve lived up to the light they’ve received.
@@HL365 Amen
Chapter 11:19 continues to Chapter 12:1.
When the temple opened, there was the arc of the covenant. After John saw the woman. How can that woman be your church? The woman seen is the last arc of the covernant who bore the mana, law and king which was in the previous arc of the covenant of Moses. Those 3 components in the Arc of the Covenant point to Jesus. He's the body, the law and King tavernacled by the woman. Whether its the Nation of Jews, the church or Mary.
Just because someone is sincere doesn't mean that telling the truth. He can also be and is totally sincerely wrong
That's why we have the Bible...
The truth is not what you determine.
Yes true. You must let evaluate and test the truth based on the Bible.
I believe Ellen G White was a true Prophetess. We also, know she was a human being. So either you believe she was one or you dont believe it. Being a true Prophetess of God does not mean she was perfect. She didnt have to be. Only Jesus was perfect. The point is God used her to share and explain many wonderful truths sbout Jesus, and every aspect of the bible. ❤
Throughout the history God used imperfect Men for his word to go forward
But Gods prophecy was NEVER incorrect- his prophets were flawed but never ever His message- she’s proven herself false
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I’ve been really struggling with your lectures Mr. Mark Finley. Sure anyone can take a text and there may be more than one way to see an interpretation, but I can’t say that I follow your statements in the beginning of this presentation. As I understand it the Ark and everything in it pointed us to the Messiah. In facts from my years in the SDA church I was taught that everything in the temple points to the Messiah. And sure like I said the items therein can reflect more than one meaning but the fundamental thing was the Messiah; not a diet, the law, or a prophet. Lastly; and again I’m only 7 min in so let’s see how the rest of this teaching goes but was Aaron a prophet or a priest.. or maybe both I don’t know if there was something that I missed in his role. Also it sounds like the foundations our church was built on a failed prophesy is this an accurate understanding? 5:35
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@@HL365 Would love to know how you came to the conclusion that manna was about diet when it was only temporary and they never had it provided again after the wilderness. It was about God's provision and a continuation of the Bread of Life concept pointing to Christ. That is actually scriptural, not that manna had anything to do with diet. They didn't even know what it was made of so how could it be part of a diet that God wanted?
Brother Mark Findlay! By so exciting proclamation of E.G.White, did you read the writings from her," Western Tour"!? There you got the answer about your Trinity teachings!!!
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Mark Finlay @HL365" Western Tour!" Review and Herald,June 6,1871. And your Trinity proclamation," The three going to the three Gates"! Read Revelation 3:12, who called Jesus Christ four times" my God"! Would a triune God do something like this?As you and Mark Findlay and Doug Batchlor proclaimed! Also read 1 Corinthians 8:6!!!
Powerful 🙏🏽❤
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The woman was deceived
And in the transgression!
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Praise God for the gift of prophecy! Thank you Pr Mark for the outstanding presentation on this subject.
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I bought a book of ellen white healing ministry I became healthy n strong in spite this book is not perfect I love to read it n practice the health message God Bless
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Gd morning and I want to buy more inspired books of ellen white God Bless Us
False prophet
Pretty clear
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FYI William Miller was not an Adventist, he was never, he died a Baptist, I don’t understand how you all proclaim he was a SDA.
And actually the testimony of Jesus is Torah keeping, y’all want to say Sunday is pagan, but so is Christmas, Good Friday& Easter. We all need to turn back to Gods Law and obey his commands not just food laws and sabbath…. ALL
Exactly right, this is where most are misconceived even to this day...
The SDA Church came OUT of the Millerite movement, after the Great Disappointment of 1844. Miller wasn't SDA but he was fundamental to the origins of the SDA church, just as Abraham wasn't a Christian, yet he is fundamental to the history of the Christian church
However, Ellen White gave him a ticket to heaven though he refused to accept the seventh day. If God would accept Miller, he would, all others!
@@19818456 Where did you read that? White can't give anyone a ticket to Heaven. Only Jesus can do that!
We never said William Miller was an Adventist. The founders of Adventists were Millerites. After the Great Disappointment in 1844, the Millerites were segregated into several groups. Adventism was one such group to come out of disappointment.
My only concern with EG White's writings are the lack of clarity and correct grammar that even Bible writers did not lack. The Bible writers had better clarity and education than EG White, and she herself ignored grammar and clarity. It's not right to hold EG White's writings higher than the Bible. Mrs. White's writings should have a revised version with today's modern day language, but the publishers think they are above the Bible or the same as the Bible. Is the Bible greater than White's writings? There's more Bible books sold today because there's different translations and different verisons to reach more people across the world 🌎 This is my only indictment on EG White's writings. The publishers made her into an idol, which breaks the 2nd Commandent, "Thou shalt not make a graven image." The publishers and people who take White's writings and want to keep everything the same in the original words so that no one can understand or read it with clarity has made this women's work into an idol. Plain and simple. They think if they change the words to today's modern day English than the message will be lost, which is a flat out lie. On the contrary, the Bible is the perfect example. The more versions of the Bible, the more attractive and accepting the Word of God becomes. Therefore, is EG White greater than God's writings or Biblical writers?
Not sure what grammar mistakes you found. But you say the Bible writers did not lack grammar. Did you check their writings in the original language of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek to come to that conclusion?
We agree with you that it is not right to hold the writings of Ellen White higher than the Bible. There are some of her books that have been revised into modern languages.
There is a difference between revision and different translations. For example, KJV, NKJV, ESV, NIV, these are all translations from other languages.
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The Bible says that no man will know the time of his coming. Trying to predict his coming, is not something that should be engaged in, because you'll be wrong. Jesus himself says that he won't even know, until the father sends him again. If the father is keeping this knowledge from his son, then he surely won't reveal it to anyone else.
Yes, you're right. No man knows the day or the hour. And yes, while Jesus was on this earth, He didn't know the day or the hour because He was in His humanity. But as a divine being He does know what the day or the hour of His coming is.