PING BLUEPRINT IRONS vs PING G710 IRONS...
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2020
- PING BLUEPRINT IRONS vs PING G710 IRONS... EXTREME PING IRON TEST - BLUEPRINT VS G710 Ping are well known for making some of the best irons you can buy. The best golf clubs you can get, the best irons of 2020 maybe? and in this test I compare both sets of extreme golf clubs from pint. The low handicap iron the ping blueprint and the high handicap iron the ping G710. Aside form the G710 and Blueprint we also have the amazing Ping G410 and Ping i210 clubs... we all know there's difference in iron lofts and iron lengths etc... but how will the irons compare? which irons should you use? what are the best irons for mid handicap golfers? what are the best ping irons? let's find out... and let's do it now!
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James thanks for the comparison I just ordered the new 710's. I turned 80 years old and have been playing ping clubs for 20 years love them and love watching your videos ,thanks!
For a better comparison I would have tested the 7i Blueprint against the 8i G710 as those two clubs have virtually the same loft and the shaft length would have been closer.
Before looking at numbers my guess of the carry difference between the irons is going to be a full 20-22 yards - the loft difference is equivalent to a full club so that is 12 yards, then add in effect of vastly lower spin and extra shaft length and you get to 20-22 yards
Actually likely the 6iron,
And that's why I chose the best of both worlds with the i500...one happy bunny
Graeme Day same here, I decided between the i500 and Taylormade P790s. Hopefully I can get the game up to hitting the blueprints!
I got fitted for the 790s, got a call back that they canceled the order because Tmade was no longer making that generation in a lefty. So I tried the i500s. Fell in love. Got them in retro lofts. Switched to Mizuno MP-20 MB SEL. Can’t wait to play again. +2 handicap
@@Ethan2217_- I got the i500's as they were so consistent and look fab. Am the most frustrated 27 handicap as I know I should be around 16 but have the occasional blow up..!!
Will Blakely same with me as well but w Tmade 760 the i500 have been superb
Will Blakely same with me as well but w Tmade 760 the i500 have been superb
Glad your back in the studio!
James: "The G710 are more designed for... Bob....and Paul...and Tony"
And you James! You!
So many reviewers hit these SGI clubs so well and comment on how easy they are to hit, but then always have some sort of reason how they aren't for them and for a totally different golfer demographic lol
@@CosmicApe Yeah, it's borderline embarrassing. They go out there and shoot 95 with their blades and blueprints yet their pride doesn't allow them to check their ego at the door. James in particular can really stand to start playing some of these G710 irons. They were designed with him in mind (steep, inconsistent swing, hits it all over the face)!
@@ironmaiden5584 But they can't stand the look of them! Or maybe it's that they can't stand how they might look to others playing them... not sure which it is lol
Great video !! Its fun to atleast watch golf in lockdown....
Cheers , enjoyed the comparison,
You've made me feel better James, I hit the blueprint when I was in the studio ( it was left on the sofa) and I just couldn't get on with it, made me love my p790s a lot 😂
I picked up the P790s for a club fitting, thought they looked fantastic! 5 mishits later and I promptly put them back..... I was gutted
Those blueprints look awesome. Good to see you hitting shots back inside and I bet you can’t wait to get back in there
My biggest problem with the 710 is the black coating. I am afraid that the coating will wear off and the clubs will look worn ratrher quickly. If they were offered on a chrome finish I might consider them.
Last year I tried out the G700 and G710 and the G700's were much easier for this mid handicapper to control and gave an average of about 6 yards advantage G700 for each club I tried. Love my G700's. Good video James. 👍🏌️♀️
back out playing today and it's GREAT !!!
Love the looks of the G710!
I have the G410 and have been loving them.
Cheers, they do look good but for top end guys. I like ping & enjoyed this again thank you
I got the i210 They are fantastic just can't wait to get on course and play.
Same. Great club!
That jacket looks well smart ! 👍
Tested the G710s this year and really liked them. Really nice clubs. Didn't mishit a shot on test but every so often, caught a complete flier which was about 15 yards further and scared me a bit for the course! They looked fantastic too, although did have slight concerns about them scratching/scuffing, and for that price.... In the end, went for some Titleist T200 irons and no regrets so far (but barely played due to course closures!)
Just bought a set of g710 and I’m a middle handicapper. Excited to get out this weekend and see how they do.
Great video James. When I first saw the Blueprint irons I fell in love immediately. But It was the same when I saw Victoria Secrets model for the first time. I just knew that no matter how much I liked them, I wasn't going to be playing with either. I merely had dreams of perhaps one day I might be good enough. And at age 55 I only have a great future behind me so not much chance of that happening.
The game is difficult enough without making it even more difficult with equipment that doesn't help as much as you need. I am a reasonably low handicapper (+1.7) and just couldn't bring myself to play these things.
why not? im a 12hcp and i play blueprints until 3 iron
i had i500 and g400 irons before my blueprints, but i play better with blades than irons with a thicker top line.... dont discourage yourself just try to go to a ping club fitting and ask if you can try to hit the blueprints
@@matthalo1224 I am a qualified fitter. I would never judge anyone else playing whatever irons they choose to play. I just think that even with my handicap, these things are just too unforgiving and I strike it pretty solid.
Each to their own. And no doubt these babies are BEAUTIFUL!!! Thinnest top line and best looking club on the market.
Thanks James! Good review... is the G710 the power spec or no?
No matter what the numbers say....I LOVE the look of the BluePrints!!
I just bought g710 love them
Would love to be able to play those blue prints absolute beautiful irons👍🏌️♂️you playing anywhere tomorrow James?
I wonder when manufacturers will drop calling clubs by numbers like 7 iron & call it my 33° because the loft is really what are talking about for distances along with shaft length. I'm going to start a one man crusade on this point. Btw, on wedges my idea has already taken off because it makes sense.
The Ben Hogan Fort Worth 15 irons used to do that but it never caught on.
I wouldn't like that at all keep calling irons the way they are
The G710 looks great I love playing a ping
Blueprint irons have got to be the sexiest irons available at the minute! Would love to be able to game them but I'll stick to my g410's for the time being
Could you do a review of the Taylor made rsi 2?
Have you reviewed Ben Hogans irons? I have the edge demos on their way, but good things are being said about them being on par with big name companies for almost half the price
Good stuff Mr. Robinson but is 4500 spin low for the loft on the G710? I bet if you hit a few with a Blueprint iron with a matching loft it may produce similar numbers.
Rick Shiels loves his blueprints. I would use the 710’s because I am the average golfer.
I500 with some form of foam in it to make the mishits feel a bit better in the black finish of the g710 or the stealth wedges would be the DREAM irons
Fab video James and that's why i don't use blades I'm off 6 at 50 yrs old and consider myself a very competent ball striker but miss hits are punished severely when i used blades. I still can't understand why people's egos get in the way with blades, why don't they use and embrace technology and leave the blades to the best ball strikers in the world. I'm currently using wilson d7 forged best of both worlds and would never consider blades ever again
Blueprint irons are sexy I personally hit Blueprint irons the best at Gainsborough but out my price range so went for 5-pw iblade i500 4iron and glide 3.0 wedges not had chance to use them properly yet though due to lockdown
I managed to get a 201 yards carry on the Ping G710 7 iron on Trackman...my mind was blown....I usually carry around 170ish with my Ping G-series 7 iron...the change in loft coupled with the new tech from the G-series to the G710 is insane. Do you really need to hit a 7 iron that far? I'm just an average golfer, currently a 20 H/C, although I should work to get it down lower.
Still waiting for my G710 to be delivered!
mm fancied mizuno mp 20's but those blueprint's look good...
Yes a MUST better test would have been i500 vs G710. For sure.
Should compare i210 vs blueprint. More tour players choose between those two than the g710 and blueprints
I loved the ping s57 irons. But love my wilson staff tour v6 irons that am currently using
I’d love a bash with those Wilsons. They look fantastic.
@@spcyman7209 The v6 irons perform as good as they look. You really should try them, best value for money
I think Rick Shiels used them for a few years?
@@spcyman7209 Yeah he did use them, and loved them too. Wilson are very underated clubs, I even use there wedges
I thought so. I’ll defo look into them when I’m due a new set and my handicap comes down a bit. Are they for single figure handicaps?
You appeared to be breaking your wrist right from the takeaway. Probably part of the reason for all the heavy shots. Tough to keep it connected that way. The blueprints are a wonderful feeling club when hit solidly but as you said, no margin for error. I recently gave up my blades as it seemed silly with all that is available today. I do miss them, but when I hit the one bad one on occasion that ends up in a reasonable position, all is good. You don’t use a persimmon driver do you? lol Thanks for the video.
Not playing my G700s much lately, but thinking about trading them for the G710 after trying them while paired with someone who had them. He had them with the ascending weight graphite shafts, and I took a swing with the wedge, and hit it dead on line at the flag, six inches short of the hole. Surprising, since I've tended to pull-left the shorter clubs of the G700 set.
@matt becham The short irons of the G700 look to have a bit more offset than the short irons of the 710s. Perhaps it's just an optical illusion of the black finish. I'll try to compare specs at the PING website.
@matt becham Thanks for pointing that out. I corrected it. Was actually on my out to make my tee time when I watched this video and did a rush-job on the comment.
When I was a lad a 7 iron was not much more than a pitching club with about 38 degrees loft. If a club is 29.5 degrees it is not a 7 iron, whatever is printed on the bottom. While I am here, when I was a lad I would be reported to the Committee if I took 3 hours to play 18. Swinging well, James, ease up for more control. If you want to hit your 7 iron further, take a 6 iron!
Wonder when you can do some on the course testing 😁😁😁😁
I know this was more of fun test but would like to see these tests done with similar lofts instead of the numbers on the bottom being the same. I guess the difference isn’t very different with same lofts.
Love the look of the Blueprint irons, but they are teeny tiny little itty bitty blades. They have toe shank written all over them for me.
Blueprints are a classy looking club for sure....game WAY better suited to 710s though .
Ping Blueprint looks beautiful. All black finish clubs tend to get scratched up.
The strong lofts are getting silly, if I’m hitting my 7 iron 200, and my PW 170 yds, what do I hit from 150 or 135 or 120?
Exactly, we will end up with a set of irons being a 9 iron and 7 wedges. The 9 iron will carry 200 yards.
Please compare the i210 irons to the G710? Or just do a review of the i210 please 😃🔥
You forgot to mention the i500. Which I believe is the true players performance iron. For me it would be a toss up on i210 vs i500. I'm getting up there in age and leaning more towards the forgiveness of i500. I've played S58's in 🎭 past and currently gaming some Mizuno JPX900 Tour irons. Love the Mizuno's, but, looking for something a bit more forgiving.
Are they still marketing the i500? I notice you didn't mention that one and weirdly if you do the pjng online webfit there are no options for it either?
Great video the blueprint looks great but looks aren’t everything it’s about performance
It’s not about distance , it’s about consistency , in distance and striking , if you can hit blades consistently then you will always get consistent distance and spin rates , ball flights Etc. game improvement irons have more variance , there is a reason tour pros use blades or something very close to it , the whole game is about. Distance control and accuracy , it’s like using a rifle with open sights compared to one with a scope mounted on it ,
Try the g710 iron with the same loft as blueprint and be better comparison.i have Wilson D7 forged and mizuno mp20 mmc and cry every-time mmc come out of bag
I have G5 irons, bring me in for a fitting!!
Change the ball to higher spinning ball with 710 to see the difference in launch and spin may be bridgestone tour bxs and what happens when playing in windy conditions
Can you revisit the Titleist T200s.
I would love a video blueprint vs mizuno mp-20 mb.
You should do a comparison between a blade and a game improvement iron but same lofts to see if it makes a difference
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My father plays g710, I'm not a fan personally but he loves them and he's got back most of the distance he lost with age so if he's happy with them that's what mattera
Ping i500s are right in between. Best of both worlds.
What if the blueprint had the stealth finish 😍
I’m waiting for the Ping 420s to release
Hi James which ping iron would you say is the equivalent of the titleist ap2 ?
I'm not James but look at the iBlade or the i210.
@@jdburch thanks !
I really enjoyed that, but quite happy with my fitted G410s thank you. My irons are the weak point of my game, so I need help, but the 710s look too big.
Distance dosent matter!!!!! Trying holding a green with a G710. Gamed G410 last year, always rolled off the green. Switched too I210's. Now Im a sniper and hold the green, I even get a little back spin. Nice soft responsive feel with with the I210's.
Lol
The blueprint look amazing in the bag. Maybe not so after a few shots. 😂
I500 play well
Who would play the Blueprint other than a top tier pro? I guess if you need to shape your shots that's the way to go. G710 sounds more like me.
200 yards with a 7 iron is surely too long. You would need 6 wedges to plug the gaps at the lower end. Shame, they look great.
Not enough funds to use either. I use G series irons.
well maybe the bp 6 iron has a similar loft?
were you hitting heavy because of the weight distribution of the blueprint vs. the 410? bet it would've been a different story had you hit it first.
No mate just because I’m rubbish. I hit both heavy lol
why not the i210 compared to the Blueprint? Some tour pros using the i series
Plenty of touring pros.
Can’t just be me that thinks a lot of people will pick up golf this summer as a lot of other sports won’t be on for a while? People who play Sunday league etc
Yeah first
Average only two yards of roll, so that descent angle had to be crazy
You're making claims unsupported by data. From the actual data I've seen the dispersion front/back & left/right is tighter with more bladed clubs on average. This makes sense from a physics perspective. If you have a springy face as all of these current GI and SGI clubs do and you don't hit the middle, you lose the spring effect and lots of distance. With players clubs you're not hitting a thin and springy face, it's much thicker and more solid so you get more consistent distance across the face. Players clubs are shorter but more accurate. So your question really is, do I need another 20 yards based on the number at the bottom of the club or do I need to hit more greens, avoid more hazards and get closer to the pin?
Try this. www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/equipment/best/golf-irons/#Best%20Player%20Irons%202020
Scroll down and you'll see charts comparing variations in distance.
Top 5 Players Clubs vary 5-10 yards.
Top 5 GI Irons vary 11-13 yards.
Top 5 SGI irons vary 10-15 yards.
If you take the median figure of each range of clubs that's 7.5 yards front to back for players irons, 12 yards for GI and SGI irons. That's 2.25 yards closer to the hole, front to back, on average, for the top 5 players irons vs the other 2, assuming in all cases your average shot is pin high (aka you picked the right club).
If you go to the bottom of each list you get 17, 22 and 25 yards. Even the worst player's iron outperforms the worst GI and SGI clubs and by a significant, stroke saving margin.
If you hit enough balls then your hits and mishits will balance out. Your best counter is essentially, "I don't believe it". Well, publish some data of your own and let's take a look at it. MyGolfSpy also does independent testing of irons annually, over several categories, multiple players, totalling 50,000 shots and they show similar results. Keep in mind, they aren't doing these tests to compare between categories of irons it's just some of the data that happens to be available from the testing. I'm sorry but I'll believe the 100s of thousands of balls hit by independent testers over the years showing the same results year after year before I'll believe marketing that defies basic physics and some random guy on the internet.
mygolfspy.com
Not according to the data....lol.
"Professional club fitter" uses 1 iron vs. a fairway wood as an analogy for iron vs. iron 😃 😄 😅 😆. Epic fail.
Those Blueprints really are nice, but for me I'd may aswell be using a banana lol. Also love the look of the g710 but wish they weren't quite as extreme in loft and offset.
I bet the lofts are at least one to two clubs different to be fair
Love the Blueprints but holy cow they must think they’re made of gold and diamonds.
Given the lofts that G710's almost a five iron.
imagine being capable to hit the blueprints they are sooooo bladey
Soft butter like feel.... steel isn’t soft.
Surely you should have gone 8iron on g710 against the 7 blueprint
Spelling error in description 😉 but as always great content!
22 yards
So why is it that you think you have to hit blades? Hard to ignore the numbers. Maybe need a TaylorMade comparison. Interesting.
Why do good looking irons always have a con? Too hard to hit, too clicky, too much offset. Mizuno has come the closest with the HMB's at least.
the blue dot on the blueprint is not the right lie angle for you.
Captain COMMERCIAL!!! Getting tough to watch
Lol. 😂. Compare The spinn with your 180 yard blueprint iron instead......
That would be a more accurate test.
Agreed, not to mention how much easier the 7 iron 710 would be than the 6 or even 5 iron blueprint to get to that distance.
Difference will be 20 yards
a 4 iron against a 7 iron. yep the 4 iron that is stamped as a 7 iron is longer
Lol
I don't like black clubs. The Blueprint is gorgeous but probably not right for my skill level.
Time to stop being silly. Why compare a club that goes 158 to a club that goes 188. Compare 2 clubs that go 158, did they hit target, did they stop? You are not going to grab a 7i from 158 on the course and rip it 30yds over the green because it has a 7 on the bottom.
You still get to say this set I used an 8iron but in this set I had to hit a 6 iron to get it there. You still get that distance comparison your looking for.
G710s look way better bud
I hit the blue print i flushed them all but knew that there would always be a shocker coming
stronger lofts..!!! no a fair comparison
My 8 forged goes just about the same as my mmc 7 iron
Thanks James.... I tried the blueprints, G410s and i500’s.... went with the i210s - great irons that are forgiving (most of the time) and feel great! Maybe soon my game will be good enough for the blueprints...