Savage has three phases: 1. WTF!!! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THIS MECHANIC!!! 2. oh wait that's all you do? that's actually pretty easy 3. WTF!!! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A PARTY THAT CAN DO THIS MECHANIC!!!
Once I understand a mechanic the rest of the party gets about three attempts before I'm yelling at my monitor about how easy it is. This is a problem, I know it, I'm working on it.
@@aurumvale9908 THAT or suddenly, everyone smacks themselves with the stupid stick and forgets how to do the mechanics they clearly already have shown an ability to do correctly.
@@adamsbja every party I’m in that does a half decent job and I figure out the mechanics, there is always ONE person who still can’t figure it out, and we wipe because of this. EVERY. TIME.
@@VioletShinobi As one who joined the savage craze at Asphodelos, I feel the Pinax pain. Though I've heard horror stories that nothing compared to Light Rampant.
"none of them can count, none of them can read, and none of them know left from right" that just sounds like me and my static. Just missing the "colourblind" bit. Mega props for PFing it, it was hard enough clearing the tier with a static and quality callouts.
"Need 7 for first time clear, blind run, must know fight perfectly" It's so funny that in a list of jokes, Cider clearly lifted this one straight from the in game party finder.
This was great! I got to say, as you were catching up to the story, I was wondering "What next will he do until we get, well, more story released for him to do his small series on?" And raid guides like this? Oh man, this is a gem and I think is perfect for ya. Would love to see more!
"Limit Cut is nothing like Pathogenic Cells" DIES ON THIS HILL WITH YOU TBH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING WHAT I'VE BEEN SCREAMING THIS WHOLE TIME!! >:|
my static couldn't even remember the name of it so my raid leader was just referring to it as "the diamond weapon thing" luckily we knew what he was talking about lol.
Ya know what's really funny about it? The original move was actually called Fundamental Synergy! I have no idea why it got called Limit Cut, aside from that being a different move the same boss did.
HAHAHAHA this described my experience so well it hurt. That happens even in a static, only benefit is you all eventually learn together and don't need to deal with PF insanity XD
Clearing raid tier in FFXIV in party finder was a magical experience for me, to be honest. Really showed how different the community is, but that was also like, day 1 raiding, when no one knew the mechanics anyway. Finding that group of random strangers that are all dedicated enough to stick to the end and learn together was really something.
Huh.... This is... more informative than I thought it would be. Think I'll hit up this raid tier now. Thanks, man! Oh, and I have raided using the Party Finder for years; it is a dark, cease pool of a place. But, it used to be worse believe it or not :D
this video format is amazing and i hope we get to see mad baby clear more stuff this way! i was there for some of the live prep for the video, glorious stuff.
"Surely P8S will only take one or two more weeks, right?" -- big mood. My first static cleared 5 and 6 week 1, then 7 week 2. The static fell apart after like 5 weeks of P8S prog, and I regret to inform you, I'm still stuck in P8S hell all this time later. Edit: I am happy to inform you all I have cleared, and have thusly been freed from the hell of prog and may begin to enjoy the game again
The fact Cider cleared the first three on week 1 amazes me. Been doing prog this tier via Late Night PF and um.. yeah. I am still on Harvest Prog on P7S. Have now been on the Yokai Tree longer than on the Cursed Carbuncle. If I actually clear this tier before the next tier drops I will be amazed. Hope springs eternal, eh?
Man, I cleared P5S and P6S week one pretty easily. I think P5S was with my static, but 6 was pf. Decided last two days to try for 7s. Got the fight down pretty early on and then spent more time in clear parties then I did progging the fucking fight. Week 1 PF was trap party after trap party after trap party. Decide to go for one last try just before lockout. We form and get in instance in time aaaaaaand.....consistently fail to even hit harvests. I was so mad, I had that fight down so well for so many hours and couldn't get my week one clear of it because for some reason pf cannot do even the easy parts of that fight.
well, we are on w15 now, so next week everybody got two sets of bis and gear will start to trickle to everyone who goes into savage at all. And the fights are so much easier even on 620 than on full crafted (p7s w1 was pretty well doable if you don't wipe on harvests, now you'll usually skip 1-2 harvests; p8sp1 w1 was cursed, but this got nerfed and now you'll skip the last two mechs, and p2 basically doesnt exist like cider said - that is once they figure out their timings for the na's :D)
@@londov1 "well, we are on w15 now, so next week everybody got two sets of bis" I think you VASTLY overestimate how many people clear week one. Most likely a lot more people are still progging then people who will have cleared week one. That said, fights are much easier now even for groups still progging as casual groups have been gearing up this whole time from earlier fights.
Being a healer means you get much more of a choice of parties no matter what week it is; so you can pretty safely bail from any party you don't like and be able to find another: of course, the quality of any group is always suspect, but the fact of being able to find more means you can eventually hit the jackpot of a competent group. Of course all this breaks down in P8S because even with 628 item level everything can one shot you without enough healing and mitigation and of course basically every other mechanic requires everyone to be alive and be consistent which is too much of an ask for even static parties.
Was shared this, LOVED it! Subbed. As a leader of two statics, one cleaning up Harvest and the other ... on Snake 1 Prog, I had to laugh at this a lot ;). Sums up the experience pretty well for sure. Great video.
You went from Nancy Sinatra to Brookes and Dunn with P6S, holy fucking shit that was a whiplash. Good to see you back with a wonderfully hilarious video as always.
I PFd every fight this tier and boy did it take a long time. P5 I was able to do the first week, 6 the second week, and 7 the 4th week. I only managed to clear 8 last week. I waited until November to start attempting to learn 8. Learning and clearing 8 in PF was tough but I got it done.
Imagine this group trying to clear Savage Criterion Dungeons: - Cider Spider, the Angry - Pint, the Ascian Black Mage - Denmomchugestrong, the moustache - Zepla, the raid mom getting Mcdonalds
honestly though, zepla can be pretty good. i'm not sure how pint or denmom. . . you don't clear that last ultimate which is easily the most difficult of them all so far, without some degree of skill.
Every time I see someone on the FFXIV forums complaining that they feel unfulfilled and unchallenged because Savage raiding is too easy, I can't help but think that they need to try out the PF experience. Kudos to you for demonstrating it!
Those are stereotypical neets living from their parents pockets so they can dedicate their life to the game. After no lifing for 8k hours they finally get good at game and call it too easy. I would teach monkey how to play on their level in half of their playtime.
Another video of insanity from everyone's favorite Mad Baby. Great job once again Cider. I'm sad I didn't get to contribute to the video like some of the others.
I apparently got grouped with you during P5S at one point when you were doing this and my static friend freaked out and messaged me about it. Glad I didn't make the cut despite my mouse not working on the first pull. Gratz on the clears, love the content.
Lmfao. With your week 1 PF clears I felt a little sad that my static spent till 3rd week on Tree ( and I had to switch to SMN to paint by colors cause RDM doesn't do enough damage Q_Q). Now we're on High Concept in the fabled part 2. However, my raid static has mostly all lost motivation. It's holiday season. That means reps! That means reps from other statics. Reps from PF occasionally. Reps Reps Reps! And sadly, sometimes, the Reps already cleared or are farther than we've been! So we get to look like extra special dunderheads in front of strangers! It's amazing!
@@CiderSpider I told'em I'd fantasia into a potato if we clear by second week of December, but this made our healer anxious cause she thinks I think she'd bad. Oof!
Hey Cider! Been a while but I recall when we did P8S prog together. It was a while back. Near the start of the patch. It was with two male Roegadyns. A Dark Knight and a Dancer with TEA weapons. They helped me find your channel! Good funny stuff.
We did P5S - and ohh boy i loved the healer-job so much. We got almost to the end - Sadly half of the fc didnt like the pressure in Savage and we quit. If it doesnt make fun for all, it leads to bad vibes. After long thinking - i will probably seek in january for a static that needs a Healer XD
Yeah, this convinced me im never doing any Savages ever. Even with the explanations, the video and not having the stress of actually doing the stuff, i still have no idea wtf is going on.
Don't knock it 'till you try it. It's a memorization game at its core and how well you can press buttons. There's not a lot of variation or randomization in them, mostly just one or two variations and I'll just say; it's really not that hard at all.
I love you so much small one! 🥰 I was sooo expecting the Endwalker follow up and I'm still looking forward to it pleaseee! 🙇♀ Also looking forward to your P8S clear! 😅😆❤
You really did make a perfect video to use to explain why I hate doing stuff on party finder, even if I get the mechanics it don't mean squat cause the other 7 people returned to monkey for the 30th time...also being on the oce server is rough at the best of times cause very few people moved over here, I don't blame them for it they probably already had FC's and friends and raid groups over on the other servers but please god of gods yoshi-p please let us work with other data centres for party finder
I'd like to vote that Cider Spider start making all the savage walkthroughs. For some reason it's a lot easier to understand when yelled at me by an angry muppet.
This made me scream So Many Times The accuracy, oh man. Oooh maaan. Finally, I have a video to explain my pain to my non-raiding friends. Thank you. ... We should totally do P8S on PF and suffer together >:3 (I'm at PH2 HC2)
P3S was like that in Aspho for me. Party be like "FoA prog to clear" and we'd wipe to that one mechanic like two minutes in where you gotta drop ads and then stack up in pairs based on numbers. I've barely touched this tier but I'm glad to see the old tradition that PF cant fucking count is still holding strong.
pf works fine if you know how to find the right party . most just yolo it and expect good results. must set clear expectations and hold people accountable when needed, more importantly be ready to perform. ive cleared several tiers of savage in pf ahead of static groups of friends.
Also need to be willing to do what needs to be done and either disband the group or boot people who are holding the group back. This tier however it's easier said than done because people don't want to spend an hour filling for p8s only to disband after 3 pulls, and trying to rep a weak link usually means you'll lose half the party in the process. This is only my third tier raiding and I also cleared them mainly in PF, but I've had friends who are like you that have used PF since HW or even ARR, and they've even said they've never seen the PF situation as bad as it's been in Abyssos.
As someone that has cleared the entirety of Savage Asphodelos and Savage Abyssos on PF... THE SNAKES, OH GOD THE SNAKES... *curls into fetal position from PF-induced PTSD
I did this tier on release in party finder. It wasn't that bad until p8s. I was ready to clear p8s second phase by week 2 or 3, but finding a group in party finder even capable of getting to phase 2 was nearly impossible... and when we did actually clear phase one, we would immediately disband over natural alignment. It was so rare to even get practice past the first mechanic. I didn't clear until week 4. It got to the point I had to check people's logs when joined. People would join phase 2 clear parties and not even have a phase one clear.
I took a break this tier for month clear p5 on week 2, cause static was slow then i left static cause of work, stop playing came back cleared p6 and p7 in a 24 hour window of prog to clear. was nice then break again manage to prog p1 in a week, then too a break XD and finish p2 in about 6 hours of prog, I been pretty lucky with my pf groups.
My PF experience was: Week 1: 3 days to get P5S down, Saturday for P6S, and Sunday for P7S. Each one got progressively easier, I think as the heard thinned out. Week 2: Rest. Week 3: P8S P1 prog. Week 4: P8S P1 clear and should have got P2 but couldn’t find an A2C group that could clear, or even get to P2. 200+ pulls total. Week 5: P8S P2 clear on reset with a reclear group that couldn’t find a tank that already had the clear. I was lucky enough to get smooth clears for both P8S P2 and P4S P2 by asking to joining a reclear group after so many failing A2C groups the week before. At that stage I knew them backwards, just needed a consistent group. Of course, I am on Materia, where we use macros like civilized people. 😛
In EU, everyone has this one raidplan link going around for P2, there's too much for a macro in it. I've only seen a macro used like once for P8S-2 and I honestly didnt know what I was looking at nor did the rest of the party as someone was like nah, lets not and linked the raidplan. lol
@@DEMONArekkusu Our original P2 macro was 5 macros! 😅 6 if you count the Dominion mitigations. They weren’t all the full 15 lines, but still pretty long. There was one for each HC, but they tend to get left out now. The Materia raiding discord is now down to 3 macros + 1 for mits.
@@CiderSpider i am happy and comfortable here. Ascians? Primals? Facing the song of the end? What are you talking about, ive got to get 40 fishing so I can catch lobsters to buy full rune
My static still has not cleared Swol we had a brand new raider and getting him up to snuff was rough so we started very late. But we are finally on target to clear Swol this weekend and from what we have seen we can clear the next one quickly.
Very accurate lol. I've been enjoying progging on pf though it does have its difficulties. Was pretty relaxed, cleared p5 week one and p6 week 2. I was planning ahead like, hmm at this rate I can clear p7 in a week and p8 in about two weeks! Then p7 took me two weeks and I got kind of burnt out lol. I just started p8 a few weeks ago and it's all been... snakes.
"I don't know what it has to do with famine or harvesting" Harvest is because it's the same setup as the Forbidden Fruit mechanics (harvesting fruit), and they're named after three out of the four horsemen of the apocalypse (conquest, famine, death, war).
I did some PF this tier using an alt. P5S and P6S I got on the first two days, but P7S took a little longer and a lot of the problems were to do with bad communication; people would post conflicting strats/images after each other and getting them to commit to one was difficult ('just pull', etc). Quality of PF groups didn't seem to improve during reclears; LBs being used to sac mechanics, misaligned raid buffs, all sorts. Based on what I saw in P5S-P7S, I decided not to do P8S in PF and just stuck with my static. Historically we clear slowly, about 12+ weeks for a tier, but on the plus side I got to avoid all the time seeking PF groups, forming them, and waiting in them. I still feel that the fastest route is definitely PF (I got the first Eden tier in about 2-ish weeks within PF, before I ended up with my current static) but it's a gamble and can be very frustrating.
It's a lot better now with DC travel, at least for NA. I was stuck on Crystal for the previous tier which was ROUGH. If not for P8S, this whole tier would have been super easy even in PF lol
"Pandaemonium was my first tier"
You can tell the baby raider is real because he accidentally calls it Pandaemonium instead of Asphodelos.
shhh
But also is baby
Angry.
just give headpats and keep on moving lol
Its pandaemonium tho. The whole thing, all three tiers. He is just being correct.
Savage has three phases:
1. WTF!!! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THIS MECHANIC!!!
2. oh wait that's all you do? that's actually pretty easy
3. WTF!!! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A PARTY THAT CAN DO THIS MECHANIC!!!
the game is just filled with RMT trolls destroying runs
Once I understand a mechanic the rest of the party gets about three attempts before I'm yelling at my monitor about how easy it is.
This is a problem, I know it, I'm working on it.
4. OMG WE ACTUALLY DID THE MECHANIC AND HIT 1% ENRAGE.
NOW EVERYONE JUST POPS THEIR POTS AND .... WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE DISBAND
@@aurumvale9908 THAT or suddenly, everyone smacks themselves with the stupid stick and forgets how to do the mechanics they clearly already have shown an ability to do correctly.
@@adamsbja every party I’m in that does a half decent job and I figure out the mechanics, there is always ONE person who still can’t figure it out, and we wipe because of this. EVERY. TIME.
2:11 can we take a minute to appreciate that the only quest in the Duty List is "Child Labor"? I refuse to believe that wasn't on purpose
he refuses to clear it and only it, for the bit
Especially since the objective is at 5/6. Meaning he's intentionally not finishing it.
year later, and it's still 5/6
I didn't expect to learn anything watching the angry child but I did.
Mad because educational!
He needs to do a guide video but with the angry baby language
"Wait, it's all snakes?"
PF: "Always has been."
that one pf veteran: "First time?"
Before that it was all pinax... all Shiva... all Orbs... all meteors... T_T pf never changes.
@@VioletShinobi As one who joined the savage craze at Asphodelos, I feel the Pinax pain. Though I've heard horror stories that nothing compared to Light Rampant.
Egyptian mythos in a nutshell
Why does it always have to be snakes?
"none of them can count, none of them can read, and none of them know left from right" that just sounds like me and my static. Just missing the "colourblind" bit. Mega props for PFing it, it was hard enough clearing the tier with a static and quality callouts.
"Need 7 for first time clear, blind run, must know fight perfectly" It's so funny that in a list of jokes, Cider clearly lifted this one straight from the in game party finder.
Just wanted to say, this is still one of my comfort videos that I rewatch every couple of weeks. Also fuels my desire to raid
Finally a meme yet not meme that will allow me to express how and why I'm always angry when I raid to my friends
As angry as a lalafell
I dig your amalgamation of comedy and actual helpful advice and insight. Good stuff
This was great!
I got to say, as you were catching up to the story, I was wondering "What next will he do until we get, well, more story released for him to do his small series on?" And raid guides like this? Oh man, this is a gem and I think is perfect for ya. Would love to see more!
This is the only video about raiding I've ever watched that I actually understood and enjoyed. 10/10
ok but id unironically watch a full set of guides like this, the funny helps me remember the mechanics
"Limit Cut is nothing like Pathogenic Cells"
DIES ON THIS HILL WITH YOU TBH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING WHAT I'VE BEEN SCREAMING THIS WHOLE TIME!! >:|
my static couldn't even remember the name of it so my raid leader was just referring to it as "the diamond weapon thing" luckily we knew what he was talking about lol.
Ya know what's really funny about it? The original move was actually called Fundamental Synergy! I have no idea why it got called Limit Cut, aside from that being a different move the same boss did.
@@SapphireDragon357 because limit cut is from A11S The flying guy uses it I forgot his name
@@partycakeboy92 ....No.
@@SapphireDragon357
Yes?
Limit cut is from A11S.
Or are you trying to say something else?
HAHAHAHA this described my experience so well it hurt. That happens even in a static, only benefit is you all eventually learn together and don't need to deal with PF insanity XD
The hypocrisy in strong here, being the problem you complain about with such obliviousness.
@@Fexghadi Elaborate.
@@tibik.8407 ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxpL6plgAxWmcpQuMYr8mvJdGbLpKJn_Eu
"Wait, this is not a guide"
** proceeds to explain the fight in a way that makes it way more easy for me to understand **
This and the P8S video are pure works of art. You, my friend, just earned a sub.
Clearing raid tier in FFXIV in party finder was a magical experience for me, to be honest. Really showed how different the community is, but that was also like, day 1 raiding, when no one knew the mechanics anyway. Finding that group of random strangers that are all dedicated enough to stick to the end and learn together was really something.
There’s an absolutely delicious irony that you got your P8S P1 clear the same day this released.
After all the guides I’ve watched..youve taught me way more and then some in this short video , you sir deserves my sub
Huh.... This is... more informative than I thought it would be.
Think I'll hit up this raid tier now. Thanks, man!
Oh, and I have raided using the Party Finder for years; it is a dark, cease pool of a place. But, it used to be worse believe it or not :D
this video format is amazing and i hope we get to see mad baby clear more stuff this way! i was there for some of the live prep for the video, glorious stuff.
As soon as I escape the snake memes...
This my dude... Is the MOST accurate description of the Abyssos Tier i have EVER seen. Thank you for that. You made my day with this one :D
"Surely P8S will only take one or two more weeks, right?" -- big mood. My first static cleared 5 and 6 week 1, then 7 week 2. The static fell apart after like 5 weeks of P8S prog, and I regret to inform you, I'm still stuck in P8S hell all this time later.
Edit: I am happy to inform you all I have cleared, and have thusly been freed from the hell of prog and may begin to enjoy the game again
My static had a huge blowout after devour.
New team is much better than before though, so Im happy.
i cleared p7s day4 with pf tho ' - ' ) pf isnt as bad as people think
What an obnoxiously backloaded tier.
@@AoyanagiChisa wait are you the PLD in P6S PF prog yesterday? I was the DRK co-tank if you remembered 😅
@@kkkkkin123 ya i guess..? ' - ' )
The fact Cider cleared the first three on week 1 amazes me.
Been doing prog this tier via Late Night PF and um.. yeah. I am still on Harvest Prog on P7S. Have now been on the Yokai Tree longer than on the Cursed Carbuncle. If I actually clear this tier before the next tier drops I will be amazed. Hope springs eternal, eh?
Man, I cleared P5S and P6S week one pretty easily. I think P5S was with my static, but 6 was pf. Decided last two days to try for 7s. Got the fight down pretty early on and then spent more time in clear parties then I did progging the fucking fight. Week 1 PF was trap party after trap party after trap party. Decide to go for one last try just before lockout. We form and get in instance in time aaaaaaand.....consistently fail to even hit harvests. I was so mad, I had that fight down so well for so many hours and couldn't get my week one clear of it because for some reason pf cannot do even the easy parts of that fight.
well, we are on w15 now, so next week everybody got two sets of bis and gear will start to trickle to everyone who goes into savage at all. And the fights are so much easier even on 620 than on full crafted (p7s w1 was pretty well doable if you don't wipe on harvests, now you'll usually skip 1-2 harvests; p8sp1 w1 was cursed, but this got nerfed and now you'll skip the last two mechs, and p2 basically doesnt exist like cider said - that is once they figure out their timings for the na's :D)
@@londov1 "well, we are on w15 now, so next week everybody got two sets of bis"
I think you VASTLY overestimate how many people clear week one. Most likely a lot more people are still progging then people who will have cleared week one.
That said, fights are much easier now even for groups still progging as casual groups have been gearing up this whole time from earlier fights.
clearing 7s on week 1 was a gamble but generally the quicker you are the better
Being a healer means you get much more of a choice of parties no matter what week it is; so you can pretty safely bail from any party you don't like and be able to find another: of course, the quality of any group is always suspect, but the fact of being able to find more means you can eventually hit the jackpot of a competent group. Of course all this breaks down in P8S because even with 628 item level everything can one shot you without enough healing and mitigation and of course basically every other mechanic requires everyone to be alive and be consistent which is too much of an ask for even static parties.
Was shared this, LOVED it! Subbed. As a leader of two statics, one cleaning up Harvest and the other ... on Snake 1 Prog, I had to laugh at this a lot ;). Sums up the experience pretty well for sure. Great video.
My sides hurt from laughing so much XD this was great! Also learned a few things as well!
You went from Nancy Sinatra to Brookes and Dunn with P6S, holy fucking shit that was a whiplash.
Good to see you back with a wonderfully hilarious video as always.
The snakes part resonated with my very soul.
I came here expecting humor but found an actual guide that PF needs to watch
I PFd every fight this tier and boy did it take a long time. P5 I was able to do the first week, 6 the second week, and 7 the 4th week. I only managed to clear 8 last week. I waited until November to start attempting to learn 8. Learning and clearing 8 in PF was tough but I got it done.
Only now rewatching this video I noticed you creating the PF as a Lancer, every second of this video is pure gold.
Imagine this group trying to clear Savage Criterion Dungeons:
- Cider Spider, the Angry
- Pint, the Ascian Black Mage
- Denmomchugestrong, the moustache
- Zepla, the raid mom getting Mcdonalds
While Floor Inspector the Cera watches on nodding sagely at each wipe.
Add Josh "mostly I'll press 1, 2 and 4, but sometimes I'll throw in a 3" Strife.
@@TheRedKnaveLP he's casting the whole thing
Will MTQ be there, trying to be the punny raid guide?
honestly though, zepla can be pretty good. i'm not sure how pint or denmom. . . you don't clear that last ultimate which is easily the most difficult of them all so far, without some degree of skill.
Nothing could make me want to learn Savage fights like this video. 😂
I need more Wesker lines from you, that was good.
That Money Tree reference was a *deep cut*, and I'm HERE for it! ... also, thanks for the primer on the fights!
Very good summary haha. I'm also PFing this tier but I got started very late and uh... It's been better than I expected I'll say that
this is hilarious and pretty informational too! VERY well done and fun to watch~
Poly-oly-ominoid... that's when I knew I'd watch this channel forever lmao
Every time I see someone on the FFXIV forums complaining that they feel unfulfilled and unchallenged because Savage raiding is too easy, I can't help but think that they need to try out the PF experience. Kudos to you for demonstrating it!
Those are stereotypical neets living from their parents pockets so they can dedicate their life to the game. After no lifing for 8k hours they finally get good at game and call it too easy. I would teach monkey how to play on their level in half of their playtime.
That doesn't actually make the fight any harder for you though. The only hard part is waiting for everyone else to learn the mechs.
Another video of insanity from everyone's favorite Mad Baby. Great job once again Cider. I'm sad I didn't get to contribute to the video like some of the others.
I apparently got grouped with you during P5S at one point when you were doing this and my static friend freaked out and messaged me about it. Glad I didn't make the cut despite my mouse not working on the first pull. Gratz on the clears, love the content.
I can't believe the clip you used of p2s is when Akia killed me.
Amazing 10/10 I love it.
This is by far the best P5, 6 & 7S guide in UA-cam ever 😂😂 it’s fucking fantastic!!
i learned p8s from this video and the the other one. So great. Best ff14 content I found so far. Please keep going its all great
I am really happy that you didnt showed the phase 2 boss of p8s
Lmfao. With your week 1 PF clears I felt a little sad that my static spent till 3rd week on Tree ( and I had to switch to SMN to paint by colors cause RDM doesn't do enough damage Q_Q).
Now we're on High Concept in the fabled part 2. However, my raid static has mostly all lost motivation. It's holiday season. That means reps! That means reps from other statics. Reps from PF occasionally. Reps Reps Reps! And sadly, sometimes, the Reps already cleared or are farther than we've been! So we get to look like extra special dunderheads in front of strangers!
It's amazing!
just in time for a christmas miracle
@@CiderSpider I told'em I'd fantasia into a potato if we clear by second week of December, but this made our healer anxious cause she thinks I think she'd bad. Oof!
Having completed this tier, this brings so many "good" memories
The last thing I expected was Wesker reference 😂 you got my sub man
I was expecting a metal gear snake yell at the end lol great video
Hey Cider! Been a while but I recall when we did P8S prog together. It was a while back. Near the start of the patch. It was with two male Roegadyns. A Dark Knight and a Dancer with TEA weapons. They helped me find your channel! Good funny stuff.
One thing I love and hate of FF14 is that is requires coordination of a group of strangers. When it works in beautiful. When it doesn't work is hell.
Legitimately understood some mechanics better after looking at this. Please do another for Barb EX.
"are you an anti social dweeb with no friends" ihave never felt so personally attacked
this was unironically a good guide btw
We did P5S - and ohh boy i loved the healer-job so much.
We got almost to the end -
Sadly half of the fc didnt like the pressure in Savage and we quit.
If it doesnt make fun for all, it leads to bad vibes.
After long thinking - i will probably seek in january for a static that needs a Healer XD
Yeah, this convinced me im never doing any Savages ever. Even with the explanations, the video and not having the stress of actually doing the stuff, i still have no idea wtf is going on.
that's the fun part - no one that raids knows what's going on either
Live, die, repeat
Don't knock it 'till you try it.
It's a memorization game at its core and how well you can press buttons. There's not a lot of variation or randomization in them, mostly just one or two variations and I'll just say; it's really not that hard at all.
That's why you raid on EU so you get macros telling you how everything works in a text box that's bigger than a PF info box.
You might one day if the rewards interest you enough.
I love you so much small one! 🥰 I was sooo expecting the Endwalker follow up and I'm still looking forward to it pleaseee! 🙇♀ Also looking forward to your P8S clear! 😅😆❤
You randomly appeared in one of my FC members party finder groups for p4 and we all collectively lost our minds
This video is AMAZING.
Glad I ran into it, 2 Thumbs WAY up, definitely subbing/liking
Feeling very called out as I was chopping willow trees outside draynor while watching this video
"PLEASE! JUST STOP GETTING STEPPED ON!"
"But Mommy Spider, step on me 😢)
You really did make a perfect video to use to explain why I hate doing stuff on party finder, even if I get the mechanics it don't mean squat cause the other 7 people returned to monkey for the 30th time...also being on the oce server is rough at the best of times cause very few people moved over here, I don't blame them for it they probably already had FC's and friends and raid groups over on the other servers but please god of gods yoshi-p please let us work with other data centres for party finder
I'd like to vote that Cider Spider start making all the savage walkthroughs. For some reason it's a lot easier to understand when yelled at me by an angry muppet.
A year and a half later I'm becoming increasingly convinced Charity is Pint's Wario.
earned a sub, that was hilarious! Hope you get the tier finished!!!!!
This made me scream
So
Many
Times
The accuracy, oh man. Oooh maaan.
Finally, I have a video to explain my pain to my non-raiding friends.
Thank you.
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We should totally do P8S on PF and suffer together >:3
(I'm at PH2 HC2)
Scream all you like no gods can hear you!
I think you mean snakes. You're on snakes.
P3S was like that in Aspho for me. Party be like "FoA prog to clear" and we'd wipe to that one mechanic like two minutes in where you gotta drop ads and then stack up in pairs based on numbers. I've barely touched this tier but I'm glad to see the old tradition that PF cant fucking count is still holding strong.
May you hit 1m subs well done on this vid going to check out the other content
Hysterical, and yes I can't count and I don't know left from right, so see you in savage (NOT). Thanks Ciders Spider, too funny.
pf works fine if you know how to find the right party . most just yolo it and expect good results. must set clear expectations and hold people accountable when needed, more importantly be ready to perform. ive cleared several tiers of savage in pf ahead of static groups of friends.
Also need to be willing to do what needs to be done and either disband the group or boot people who are holding the group back. This tier however it's easier said than done because people don't want to spend an hour filling for p8s only to disband after 3 pulls, and trying to rep a weak link usually means you'll lose half the party in the process.
This is only my third tier raiding and I also cleared them mainly in PF, but I've had friends who are like you that have used PF since HW or even ARR, and they've even said they've never seen the PF situation as bad as it's been in Abyssos.
Ayyy I was in your 1st blind P5S after the maintenance before I had to go to work. glad you did well in PF after that cause lord knows I did not 💀
i love that runescape reference
I thought is what that was.
"skip soar or disband" lol Well, I read the PF description (ha) and I was not disappointed.
As someone that has cleared the entirety of Savage Asphodelos and Savage Abyssos on PF...
THE SNAKES, OH GOD THE SNAKES... *curls into fetal position from PF-induced PTSD
Holy shit you should make full raid guides, it'd be funny and exciting to watch
What's up with all the snakes in this darn game. So entertaining your videos are. Can't wait for your next angry cause small.
I did this tier on release in party finder. It wasn't that bad until p8s. I was ready to clear p8s second phase by week 2 or 3, but finding a group in party finder even capable of getting to phase 2 was nearly impossible... and when we did actually clear phase one, we would immediately disband over natural alignment. It was so rare to even get practice past the first mechanic. I didn't clear until week 4.
It got to the point I had to check people's logs when joined. People would join phase 2 clear parties and not even have a phase one clear.
I took a break this tier for month clear p5 on week 2, cause static was slow then i left static cause of work, stop playing came back cleared p6 and p7 in a 24 hour window of prog to clear. was nice then break again manage to prog p1 in a week, then too a break XD and finish p2 in about 6 hours of prog, I been pretty lucky with my pf groups.
No wonder boosters have such a great business, lol
The true challenge is P2 NA prog ngl, snakes is just the beginning of the end.
The Runescape memes were so unexpected and yet so perfect xD
Clicked thinking it was a new Pint video, stayed because it was good content.
"None of them know left from right."
I feel called out....
P8S being snakes is 100% true. My static is on the fifth week of reclears, and the snakes still prove to be a challenge sometimes.
"You write up a description (that no one will ever read)" Hurt me deep inside.
My PF experience was: Week 1: 3 days to get P5S down, Saturday for P6S, and Sunday for P7S. Each one got progressively easier, I think as the heard thinned out.
Week 2: Rest.
Week 3: P8S P1 prog.
Week 4: P8S P1 clear and should have got P2 but couldn’t find an A2C group that could clear, or even get to P2. 200+ pulls total.
Week 5: P8S P2 clear on reset with a reclear group that couldn’t find a tank that already had the clear.
I was lucky enough to get smooth clears for both P8S P2 and P4S P2 by asking to joining a reclear group after so many failing A2C groups the week before. At that stage I knew them backwards, just needed a consistent group.
Of course, I am on Materia, where we use macros like civilized people. 😛
NA is just too smoothbrained for macros
And materia carried over that macro culture from JP thankfully \o/
In EU, everyone has this one raidplan link going around for P2, there's too much for a macro in it. I've only seen a macro used like once for P8S-2 and I honestly didnt know what I was looking at nor did the rest of the party as someone was like nah, lets not and linked the raidplan. lol
@@DEMONArekkusu Our original P2 macro was 5 macros! 😅 6 if you count the Dominion mitigations. They weren’t all the full 15 lines, but still pretty long. There was one for each HC, but they tend to get left out now.
The Materia raiding discord is now down to 3 macros + 1 for mits.
Mad because math! Math because puddles! Mad because party finder! MAD! And this is why I've only done normal since starting this game.
Can't wait to see every FF14 youtuber on the planet react to this.
Sick RuneScape reference brah, so true
Except im still cutting logs behind Draynor bank and its nearly 2023
you can Run but you can't Escape
@@CiderSpider i am happy and comfortable here. Ascians? Primals? Facing the song of the end? What are you talking about, ive got to get 40 fishing so I can catch lobsters to buy full rune
Scream is probably the more appropriate theme for this run, as that what you will be doing the entire time
My static still has not cleared Swol we had a brand new raider and getting him up to snuff was rough so we started very late. But we are finally on target to clear Swol this weekend and from what we have seen we can clear the next one quickly.
Very accurate lol. I've been enjoying progging on pf though it does have its difficulties. Was pretty relaxed, cleared p5 week one and p6 week 2. I was planning ahead like, hmm at this rate I can clear p7 in a week and p8 in about two weeks! Then p7 took me two weeks and I got kind of burnt out lol. I just started p8 a few weeks ago and it's all been... snakes.
Not gonna lie, in my country we do call all plasters band-aids lol
"I don't know what it has to do with famine or harvesting"
Harvest is because it's the same setup as the Forbidden Fruit mechanics (harvesting fruit), and they're named after three out of the four horsemen of the apocalypse (conquest, famine, death, war).
i understood better when you explained it the funny way than the real way LOL
Why did it have to be snakes...
Proto Carbuncle is the very defination of your party getting shitted on
"it's easy!" [immediately fails mech]
mood
And “playing difficult video games determines my self worth” outside of work this is me 😂
I did some PF this tier using an alt. P5S and P6S I got on the first two days, but P7S took a little longer and a lot of the problems were to do with bad communication; people would post conflicting strats/images after each other and getting them to commit to one was difficult ('just pull', etc). Quality of PF groups didn't seem to improve during reclears; LBs being used to sac mechanics, misaligned raid buffs, all sorts.
Based on what I saw in P5S-P7S, I decided not to do P8S in PF and just stuck with my static. Historically we clear slowly, about 12+ weeks for a tier, but on the plus side I got to avoid all the time seeking PF groups, forming them, and waiting in them. I still feel that the fastest route is definitely PF (I got the first Eden tier in about 2-ish weeks within PF, before I ended up with my current static) but it's a gamble and can be very frustrating.
It's a lot better now with DC travel, at least for NA. I was stuck on Crystal for the previous tier which was ROUGH. If not for P8S, this whole tier would have been super easy even in PF lol
I love watching stuff about the FF raids. No interest at all in them, but they're fun to watch. Thanks much for the video!
I've cleared all content in this game but p8s. Been through like 4 statics and suffer pf to this day. I feel your pain