Man, I wish I lived in Florida. A day on the water, solving problems and rescuing stranded boats? I'd work for free to do that. Really interesting stuff.
I'm a new subscriber. I boated for years on an inland lake in Ohio, not Erie. This lake had a remote area on the north end called The Game Preserve that was for fishing and hunting. The canals in that area ran for miles and it was a popular place for people to slow cruise off the main lake. Early one Saturday morning I went in there to fish and ride. I came out on a different side than the one I had entered from. Easily a half mile from the from an arm of the lake back, in a huge no wake slow zone, was a 25 foot sterndrive Sea Ray Cruiser high and dry on the hard up over a point covered with rip rap. A Sheriff boat and ODNR boat were there. They told me the captain of the boat had been out partying at the lakeside bars on Friday night and obviously got that boat up on the shore there. He had to be running full throttle to get that boat up on the shore like that. At least he did that in a remote spot. Not far away are all kinds of lakeside homes and cottages. Looks like this had to be a similar sort of deal with this boat. Another drunken idiot. Your diesel boat is cool. Definitely not a digital shift tranny on it. You guys do great work. I'm a former Coastie, so I know this kind of work.
Enjoying your videos. Glad I found the channel. Nice to see the details and all the steps you go through start to finish. Good training videos for prospective towboaters.
Really enjoyed this successful salvage rescue. Looks easy when you have the right equipment and people behind the equipment who knew exactly what to do. They knew exactly the right procedures, would not have done it any other way. Good job guys, See you next time.
Excellent video! Always great to be knee-deep in productive labor when the boss shows up! Agree on the comment on your sidekick needs to learn when full throttle is needed!
An Enjoyable Video, I guess you have been skipper and doing recoveries and boat handling for not that long, don't get discouraged, keep at it and the mistakes will drop away, you will learn very quickly. Good luck
Cool video thanks for sharing with us.. I live in Oregon in the PNW, we love visiting Florida, I wish I lived there if have a boat out cruising & fishing
Holy cow! That was great. Broncos Guru sent me and I just subscribed. I enjoy the challenge of recovery. Never know what you're getting into. Since you asked, the go-pro on your head worked great. You should continue with that. More narration would be good but you mentioned that so I think you know. Only other thing is maybe keep the captions on a little longer. I had to pause to read them but that's no a big deal. Great stuff. Keep it up! I'm looking forward to more.
Very nice video. Took one look at those mangroves in the beginning and I immediately said, "yup, better get the chainsaw". Lol. Then I remembered how much Florida DNR/Fish n Game just love their mangroves... and God help anyone who messes with 'em! Wonder if the 'groves destruction was already on the citation and that's why they gave you the go ahead to remove them!?!?! Again, great video. Wish I was out in the boat with yah working. Love doing this kindof work. Be safe. Keep a goin!
LOL you got that right :) At the time the FWC hadn't issued any citation as they were still conducting their investigation (I still don't know if they ended up citing them for anything) but the officer on scene was still waiting for approval to cut the mangroves which is why we didn't start by cutting them.
Bowline. The most common knot I use in Towing. If you can master the bowline and a cleat hitch you'll be golden since those account for 99% of your common boating knot needs!
Haha. Yeah. No kidding. We had float bags and everything ready, expecting there to be hull damage, but there was only some surface level scratches in the gelcoat and bottom
This is a different can of worms, when I was on the farm & something got stuck always pull right back up the tracks. Wouldn’t go the other way for any reason.
It's brackish water so we generally don't get alligators. That being said, I have seen a few before in that general area...so technically, yes one could.
Alligators are scared of humans they're not like crocodiles... They're not just some vicious animal thirsty for blood attacks do happen but not like you're thinking
Nice. I said to myself, they are going to have to cut some of those mangroves. They didn’t get hurt because the mangroves are so absorbing and forgiving. You can see why they are good hurricane protection. You will get scratched up, but that’s quite survivable.
@CaptKenO thanks for the entertainment... it looks like you're using your 360 cam...i want to do that with my 360 on my boat for fishing. Do you like it, and do you have to do a lot of editing?
This is an old video from long before I had the 360 cam... But yes, I do love having the 360 cam for my new videos and being able to reframe the shot to follow the action. Because of that, yeah, it does require more work to edit a video...but at least for the one I use (insta 360 x3), the reframing software is pretty easy and quick to use. I don't know from personal use, but I've heard the gopro editor for 360 footage isn't as good as the insta one, so keep that in mind
@@CaptKenO I have the same insta cam... I mostly use it for construction projects .I just return it on while I'm doing site inspections then I have a record of the project for reference later... But I think I'll use it for fishing and even thinking of letting it down underwater to check out structure
@davidk7849 ok, cool! If you're going to use it under saltwater, I'd recommend getting the dive case. Yes the camera is waterproof (forget it's IP rating) but there's so many spots the water will get to, that unless you can clean it out completely, the salt will eventually work it's way in
LOL! And the battery died. I don't do anything critical with mine, but that's exactly why my Echo pole saw is gas powered. It's always entertaining and educational to see how people do what initially looks impossible.
Some very lucky People to still be alive if travellling down there at night. Maybe even with ut any runninng light as well. Great job to you and i was wondering if you would have to cut to release that pressure . Whwn you did ot caam out quite easily. Aussie Bob.
It's hard to see in the video since I never went back on the boat, but the whole bow up to the console was buried in the mangroves, so pulling from the bow wasn't an option
Thanks Sharon! Unfortunately, there was sever damage to the mangroves (a crime in Florida) and the beer cans/other contraband they found could potentially be prosecuted as well. Whether they ended up being charged with any criminal wrongdoings, I don't know
Just another thought if you use a " kinetic recovery rope" on a boat I would think there would be an extremely high chance of ripping the cleats or other attachment point, clean out of the vessel
My boat would be fine, and I wouldn't trust a cleat of the other boat. Only point I might try would be a tow eye on a boat so equipped or maybe on a larger boat if it has a central bitt up on the bow
Were you concerned about snakes in the water? Was waiting to see when you'd use a small chain saw or powered pruning tool. A few backup batteries could have been helpful! 😊
It's brackish water, so I wasn't really concerned with gators or snakes...but that doesn't mean they couldn't surprise me. Unfortunately, the pole saw was all I had access to on short notice, and I only had the 2 batteries...one of which I killed
Question: Are you not allowed to cut those branches/vines? A couple of minutes with a battery operated sawzall with a 12' pruning blade would have cleared that path in less than 5 minutes..... DISREGARD my question....I asked it too soon. I guess the Mangroves are protected.
That is correct. At least in Florida they're a protected species. The fwc really didn't want us to cut them, which is why we tried it first without...but they decided they'd rather us cut them and get the boat out faster
Why don’t you have a more powerful twin engine boat. I live in the Chesapeake bay area most of the toe boots here are twin engine and outboard for improved mobility.
Nice to see young bucks taking care of things good job keep up with your good work and help your partner out tell him grow some coconut nuts use the throttle!! God bless you and your family!!! Timmy c Bristol ct
LOL. Thanks Tim! Capt Zach was still pretty new when we did this salvage so he's gotten better about using throttle when needed...but he also works on the boats in the shop with the boss so he treats the boats with a bit more care since he knows he'll be the one to fix it if it breaks!
U guys look professional and I like that I been on water since 10 now 54 I love water and boats I had a boat like yours and it brought back memories of own it long gone since loosing my shop I had to sell it Chris craft 30ft same platform with a Buick V6 I like older boats it was the mayor of ri he used it to go to work every day he lived on the island and used the boat as his car ! Nice texting you and keep up the good work and videos Capt Zack!
We have VHF marine radios we could've used. The problem is that the boat capt Zach was on is so loud that he was wearing earmuffs so he wouldn't have been able to hear anyways
First video i have seen of yours. I know you probably seldom ever do anything around trees, but I just have to ask. If you were there the night before and seeing all those roots, why didn't you bring a chainsaw or a sawzall?
Correct. usually when we deal with boats in trees its an easy pull out and we don't have to cut them free. In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them and in the hour I had to prepare for the salvage, they still hadn't given us the ok to cut them.
@@CaptKenO Yeah, I saw you explaining about it after I typed that. I did think about that but figured surely they would let you seeing how deep the boat was up in there. Thank you for clarifying. I deleted the question after you had explained why you hadn’t already. It was KILLING me watching you struggle so hard when cutting just a few roots/limbs would have let you snatch it right out. Great job!
@@rockyvincent7790 yeah, no kidding it was a struggle! 🤣 My original plan was to wait for the high tide that afternoon so the boat would just float over the roots that were holding it, but the FWC was insistent that we get it out ASAP...so that kinda threw the whole thing for a loop 🤷♂️
Yes I have. I've wondered about using them too since I've seen them used on Matt's off road recovery and heavy D sparks. In this situation it wouldn't have worked, but it could be useful on groundings. The two things I'm worried about is what the saltwater would do to them and the fact that they sink, so more likely to get caught up in a prop
At least they were boating and not driving. A BUI is better than a DUI since the water is less crowded and you're less likely to kill an innocent person.
Very true. Neither is good, but yes. Less crowded on the water. They were extremely lucky that no one died or was even hurt on their boat after this crash
Was hoping you would have cut the roots out of the way before trying the pull. Chainsaw was needed first. There was no way that thing was coming out clean without some cutting and clearing.
Mangroves are protected in Florida, so they wanted us to try and get the boat out without cutting them. Yes, a chainsaw would've been nice, but didn't have one available
@@CaptKenO Maybe the best thing to say to them right off the bat is either I'm snapping mangroves and possibly tearing the boat up or I have to do some strategic cutting first. Pulling when you know it ain't coming seems like a recipe for more issues.
It may look cool, but it's my least favorite boat to operate. it's cramped, extremely loud, and since we're sitting on the engine cover of a Cummins, extremely uncomfortable brain shaking vibrations especially at low RPMs
It's very hard to pull a boat up and over things when pulling from lower down, and the mangroves where thick enough that they wouldn't have given under the weight of the boat
A boom wouldn't help due to the leverage effect it would have on my boat from pulling at a higher point. I'm fact, it would be very detrimental because unlike a tow truck, my boat doesn't have a hard surface to push against
You guys should carry A chainsaw on board for those types of recoveries.& Situations so it helps with making the boat pulling easier on yourselves to out there. And it's A whole lot less wear.& Tear on your own boats to.
Usually when we deal with boats in trees it’s an easy pull out and we don't have to cut them free. In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them and in the hour I had to prepare for the salvage, they still hadn't given us the ok to cut them. It definitely would've been nice to have a proper chainsaw but I got rid of mine when I moved to the area and couldn't borrow one on short notice
I can't say for other operators, but we have VHF marine radios we could've used. The problem is that the boat capt Zach was on is so loud that he was wearing earmuffs so he wouldn't have been able to hear anyways
They sure are! If you go look at some of my other videos from when I worked in Venice, you'll see them helping out on a few other occasions as well. I had actually tried to work for them both before I started with TBUS Venice and when I was looking to leave, but unfortunately both times they didn't have any open full time positions
Through a solid mass of mangroves? Nope. Trust me. I looked at that option. The bow was buried in the mangroves and wasn't going anywhere but backwards
@@CaptKenO chainsaw & a chainsaw operator might be handy to have on your team. Assuming there aren't laws against cutting into the mangroves. Oops! Shoulda watched the entire video before commenting! Nice salvage job!
Great work, just found the channel, interesting recovery, glad no one was seriously hurt. My Mom has her winter condo( I guess that’s what you’d call it) in Venice. Im pretty sure that has to be the same Venice. In her area, u can find fossil shark teeth in the water along the beach, as well as megalodon, but we had to scuba dive to find them. Does anyone know if this’s the same area?
You are clearly running a successful business, so please do not take my comment as criticism. Have you ever checked out yankum ropes? I’m sure this situation was far from “normal” but may be worth while for you to keep a dynamic rope as a piece of gear. Also, check you their soft shackles. I am not affiliated with them, but I do keep their gear in my jeeps and on my trailers. Made In Idaho with American materials. Great video- still scratching my head as to “how” this went down…. Blown away no one was seriously hurt!
I've wondered about using them too since I've seen them used on Matt's off road recovery and heavy D sparks. In this situation it wouldn't have worked , but it could be useful on groundings. The two things I'm worried about is what the saltwater would do to them and the fact that they sink, so more likely to get caught up in a prop
@@CaptKenO Good points- saltwater plays havoc on just about everything. Might be worth giving them a shout over though? I’m not sure about yankum, but other companies do make floating and high visibility shackles now. Really like the videos!
It's good to see my tax dollars being used for good :) They've definitely got some nice boats for the local police and sheriff here, but they are well deserved!
@@CaptKenO the copper said he was staying there because it was a crime scene. What was the potential crime he was thinking of if you know? Is it illegal to harm the mangroves?
FWC and CG tend to be more hardal asses, yes...but they're generally doing enforcement. At least around here, the sheriff and pd are more about education and keeping people safe, so they'll pull people over if doing something they shouldn't, but usually educate them on why the rule is there and then let them go...but that also depends on what rule and how badly it was broken. BUI, you're screwed no matter what.
I've wondered about using them too since I've seen them used on Matt's off road recovery and heavy D sparks. In this situation it wouldn't have worked, but it could be useful on groundings. The two things I'm worried about is what the saltwater would do to them and the fact that they sink, so more likely to get caught up in a prop
We have VHF marine radios we could've used. The problem is that the boat capt Zach was on is so loud that he was wearing earmuffs so he wouldn't have been able to hear anyways
Usually when we deal with boats in trees it’s an easy pull out and we don't have to cut them free. In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them and in the hour I had to prepare for the salvage, they still hadn't given us the ok to cut them. It definitely would've been nice to have a proper chainsaw but I got rid of mine when I moved to the area and couldn't borrow one on short notice
I've thought about it and lots of other people have recommended it, but they don't float, so all the benefits of the kinetic rope would be lost dragging it up from the bottom
Yeah. They work amazingly good on land for sure! Floats would kinda make it a pain in the ass to use, I don't know how well it would hold up to the salt water, plus a whole bunch of potential other issues, makes it an unviable option
Yep :) In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them
Usually when we deal with boats in trees it’s an easy pull out and we don't have to cut them free. In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them and in the hour I had to prepare for the salvage, they still hadn't given us the ok to cut them. It definitely would've been nice to have a proper chainsaw but I got rid of mine when I moved to the area and couldn't borrow one on short notice
In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them. My original plan was to wait for the high tide that afternoon so the boat would just float over the roots that were holding it, but the FWC was insistent that we get it out ASAP...so that kinda threw the whole thing for a loop 🤷♂️
A skilled man doing hard work! As a non-boater I found the video fascinating. You've got a new subscriber!
Thank you for the support and glad you like my content!
bull-shit
I've been boating most of my life ... never seen one launched that far out of the water. Nice job on the recovery!
Thanks Jay!
Man, I wish I lived in Florida. A day on the water, solving problems and rescuing stranded boats? I'd work for free to do that. Really interesting stuff.
In Australia marine rescue is mainly done by volunteers under the direction of the relevant states Water Police.
Moat the work in Florida is done dam near for free 😂 so you’ll fit right in 👍
@@Dennco2000 That might explain why I'm a computer programmer living in Michigan They call it "a dream" for a reason. :D
Spectacular salvage. Thanks once more Capt. Ken. Your videos are great!. I am a big fan.
Thanks Patricio! Glad you're enjoying my content!
I'm a new subscriber. I boated for years on an inland lake in Ohio, not Erie. This lake had a remote area on the north end called The Game Preserve that was for fishing and hunting. The canals in that area ran for miles and it was a popular place for people to slow cruise off the main lake. Early one Saturday morning I went in there to fish and ride. I came out on a different side than the one I had entered from. Easily a half mile from the from an arm of the lake back, in a huge no wake slow zone, was a 25 foot sterndrive Sea Ray Cruiser high and dry on the hard up over a point covered with rip rap. A Sheriff boat and ODNR boat were there. They told me the captain of the boat had been out partying at the lakeside bars on Friday night and obviously got that boat up on the shore there. He had to be running full throttle to get that boat up on the shore like that. At least he did that in a remote spot. Not far away are all kinds of lakeside homes and cottages. Looks like this had to be a similar sort of deal with this boat. Another drunken idiot. Your diesel boat is cool. Definitely not a digital shift tranny on it. You guys do great work. I'm a former Coastie, so I know this kind of work.
Thanks for sharing Michael! Yep. Definitely no fancy electronic controls on this boat :)
Enjoying your videos. Glad I found the channel. Nice to see the details and all the steps you go through start to finish. Good training videos for prospective towboaters.
Thanks Capt! Glad you're enjoying my content!
Really enjoyed this successful salvage rescue. Looks easy when you have the right equipment and people behind the equipment who knew exactly what to do. They knew exactly the right procedures, would not have done it any other way. Good job guys, See you next time.
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Excellent video! Always great to be knee-deep in productive labor when the boss shows up! Agree on the comment on your sidekick needs to learn when full throttle is needed!
Haha. Thanks Rick!
An Enjoyable Video, I guess you have been skipper and doing recoveries and boat handling for not that long, don't get discouraged, keep at it and the mistakes will drop away, you will learn very quickly. Good luck
Thanks Cliff! I'd been working for towboat for just over a year when I did this job and it was my first salvage job too
Cool video thanks for sharing with us.. I live in Oregon in the PNW, we love visiting Florida, I wish I lived there if have a boat out cruising & fishing
Thanks Kanale!
Thought you might have cut the mangrove roots first before attempting the first tow 😕
The FWC really didn't want us to and so they insisted we try without cutting them
Great job guys. I live in Sarasota for 25 years and know that place. That whole area is beautiful for boating.
It sure is!
Holy cow! That was great. Broncos Guru sent me and I just subscribed. I enjoy the challenge of recovery. Never know what you're getting into.
Since you asked, the go-pro on your head worked great. You should continue with that. More narration would be good but you mentioned that so I think you know. Only other thing is maybe keep the captions on a little longer. I had to pause to read them but that's no a big deal.
Great stuff. Keep it up! I'm looking forward to more.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the feedback as well!
My thoughts also. Good video I subbed
Same here!
I agree with everyone else, a good video, but I’m a slow reader, a little more time would sure be nice
exactly good recovery
Very nice video.
Took one look at those mangroves in the beginning and I immediately said, "yup, better get the chainsaw". Lol. Then I remembered how much Florida DNR/Fish n Game just love their mangroves... and God help anyone who messes with 'em!
Wonder if the 'groves destruction was already on the citation and that's why they gave you the go ahead to remove them!?!?!
Again, great video. Wish I was out in the boat with yah working. Love doing this kindof work.
Be safe. Keep a goin!
LOL you got that right :)
At the time the FWC hadn't issued any citation as they were still conducting their investigation (I still don't know if they ended up citing them for anything) but the officer on scene was still waiting for approval to cut the mangroves which is why we didn't start by cutting them.
@@CaptKenO Ah. I see. Well glad everything worked out.
Keep a goin mano!
I thought there's no way to get that boat out without a chainsaw. I was looking around on his boat to see if he had brought one
curious - what knot did you use to tie the lines to the bridle?
Bowline. The most common knot I use in Towing. If you can master the bowline and a cleat hitch you'll be golden since those account for 99% of your common boating knot needs!
Another fantastic vid of how things get done professionally 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍
It's amazing that boat is still in good shape after all that!
Haha. Yeah. No kidding. We had float bags and everything ready, expecting there to be hull damage, but there was only some surface level scratches in the gelcoat and bottom
why did you pull it out backwards? forward looked like a better option with less hang up
It's hard to see in the video since I never went back on the boat, but the whole bow up to the console was buried in the mangroves.
This is a different can of worms, when I was on the farm & something got stuck always pull right back up the tracks. Wouldn’t go the other way for any reason.
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Might be a dumb question but in a situation like that is there any chance an alligator could sneak up on you?
It's brackish water so we generally don't get alligators. That being said, I have seen a few before in that general area...so technically, yes one could.
How about a chainsaw to cut them roots?
Alligators are scared of humans they're not like crocodiles... They're not just some vicious animal thirsty for blood attacks do happen but not like you're thinking
I was worried about a big snake getting him.
they prefer fresh water lakes
Nice. I said to myself, they are going to have to cut some of those mangroves. They didn’t get hurt because the mangroves are so absorbing and forgiving. You can see why they are good hurricane protection. You will get scratched up, but that’s quite survivable.
Still surprised that they managed to get out without any major injuries...no mater what you hit going 20kts+ should hurt
@@CaptKenO I’m sure. Gotta hurt and of course always a possibility of injury. Capt Fred
Just stumbled across this video and your channel. Your vessel is very intriguing! Loved the extraction! I subscribed!
Thanks Eric!
@@CaptKenO do you have any video tours of your boat? Id like to know some more about it
@@ericmuhlbeier8023 not yet. But everyone is asking for one. So when I slow down with the tows in a month or so I'll put one together
@@CaptKenO ill be watchin for it
Definitely like the go pro perspective
@CaptKenO thanks for the entertainment... it looks like you're using your 360 cam...i want to do that with my 360 on my boat for fishing. Do you like it, and do you have to do a lot of editing?
This is an old video from long before I had the 360 cam... But yes, I do love having the 360 cam for my new videos and being able to reframe the shot to follow the action. Because of that, yeah, it does require more work to edit a video...but at least for the one I use (insta 360 x3), the reframing software is pretty easy and quick to use. I don't know from personal use, but I've heard the gopro editor for 360 footage isn't as good as the insta one, so keep that in mind
@@CaptKenO I have the same insta cam... I mostly use it for construction projects .I just return it on while I'm doing site inspections then I have a record of the project for reference later... But I think I'll use it for fishing and even thinking of letting it down underwater to check out structure
@davidk7849 ok, cool! If you're going to use it under saltwater, I'd recommend getting the dive case. Yes the camera is waterproof (forget it's IP rating) but there's so many spots the water will get to, that unless you can clean it out completely, the salt will eventually work it's way in
What's the price of fuel at the dock now?.....8.00?must be nuts
$6.20 last week for diesel when I fueled up, but the dock guy said it'd be going up again since his cost went up that morning
@@CaptKenO not as bad as I would have thought...lol
@@deedledeedeecheese6023 maybe not, but I'm still glad I'm not the one paying for it 😁
What is the difference again between a recovery and a salvage?
Most people in the industry use salvage but I've heard some use recovery interchangeably to mean the same thing
LOL! And the battery died. I don't do anything critical with mine, but that's exactly why my Echo pole saw is gas powered. It's always entertaining and educational to see how people do what initially looks impossible.
Batteries and getting lightly dipped in saltwater apps don't mix too well...🙄
Thank you for posting this video.
Thanks for watching!
what kinda boat is that other tow boat ? the other red one with the CC pilot house
It's a shamrock (not sure of the model). The only type of boat my boss buys 😂
@@CaptKenO I always like those , everyone I have ever seen was painted red , so I guess it was or used to be a tow boat
@@ericvaughn8741 there's a very good chance that that was the case! The layout is well suited for it and they're very sturdy boats
@@CaptKenO Cause they cheap and built like tanks! I have an 83 Open fisherman Shamrock.. Good inboard boats..
How are the people involved? what were the ramifications of damaging the mangroves?
The people were mostly fine, just scratches and minor bruising surprisingly. As for charges, I don't know if they were ever charged with anything
What kinda diesel power we talkin on that inboard?
New, I thing it puts out around 240hp...but its the torque that matters for static pulls
Very well done out of curiosity how much was this tow . Since it was not covered by towboat us .
We bill on a per foot basis with a variable rate for salvages. This one I think was somewhere between $4-6k
+A bow thruster of some sort would be invaluable to help you manouvre. That is pretty strenuos work!
Haha. No kidding. I would've loved a bow thruster on this boat!
Some very lucky People to still be alive if travellling down there at night. Maybe even with ut any runninng light as well. Great job to you and i was wondering if you would have to cut to release that pressure . Whwn you did ot caam out quite easily. Aussie Bob.
are both tow boats hulls Shamrock's?
Yes they are
Is there any law against cutting mangrove with a chain saw?
Yes. Mangroves are a protected species in Florida
@@CaptKenO Thank you
i would figure pulling on the bow, more likely to skim over the branches vrs pulling flat stern back out
There was no skimming over those going forwards. It was buried in there pretty good
Just out of curiosity, why not hook to the bow eye and pull it out frontwards? Maybe there’s something I don’t see.
It's hard to see in the video since I never went back on the boat, but the whole bow up to the console was buried in the mangroves, so pulling from the bow wasn't an option
I see that area. 2:48.. If I was most boaters I would try and stay ~100ft off the shoreline. Yeah thats a crazy salvage.
Yep. Anywhere over by where the guy ran up in the mangroves is pretty shallow, so most boaters stay far away from that outside part of the channel
Tow guy what kind of boat do you have there at looks l like a Sea Bird with a i/0
26ft shamrock with a keel drive. I'll be posting a video sometime about the boats I run and my gear because enough of you have asked about them
Nice job guys. Since sheriffs were there, hope all is well without a crime. Great there's a tow service available.
Thanks Sharon! Unfortunately, there was sever damage to the mangroves (a crime in Florida) and the beer cans/other contraband they found could potentially be prosecuted as well. Whether they ended up being charged with any criminal wrongdoings, I don't know
can you do a video on how you get into this job?
I've had a few requests for that so I might do one one of these days
Just another thought if you use a " kinetic recovery rope" on a boat I would think there would be an extremely high chance of ripping the cleats or other attachment point, clean out of the vessel
My boat would be fine, and I wouldn't trust a cleat of the other boat. Only point I might try would be a tow eye on a boat so equipped or maybe on a larger boat if it has a central bitt up on the bow
How many cops does it take to change a light bulb? Buy them expensive fast play boats and see how much work gets done.
On the bright side, it means they don't have bad guys to go chase and that this was the most entertaining/important thing going on that day :)
Were you concerned about snakes in the water? Was waiting to see when you'd use a small chain saw or powered pruning tool. A few backup batteries could have been helpful! 😊
It's brackish water, so I wasn't really concerned with gators or snakes...but that doesn't mean they couldn't surprise me.
Unfortunately, the pole saw was all I had access to on short notice, and I only had the 2 batteries...one of which I killed
Looks like the boat you are running at the new company is much more agile and user friendly. Anything you miss about this boat?
Definitely the pulling power for groundings and some other minor things, but nothing that would be worth giving up what I have now 😁
Question: Are you not allowed to cut those branches/vines? A couple of minutes with a battery operated sawzall with a 12' pruning blade would have cleared that path in less than 5 minutes.....
DISREGARD my question....I asked it too soon. I guess the Mangroves are protected.
That is correct. At least in Florida they're a protected species. The fwc really didn't want us to cut them, which is why we tried it first without...but they decided they'd rather us cut them and get the boat out faster
Get the Milwaukee pole saw. The high demand battery will last a few hours of use. I get about 4 hours of continuous use with that thing.
The general consensus is I'm an idiot for not having a real chainsaw on the boat :)
Love the content just subscribed.
Thanks James! Glad you liked the video!
Nice job I love your videos
Thanks Ada!
did you have to fill out an environmental impact statement?
Nope. That's why the fwc was on scene and I had to get permission from them to cut the mangroves
Oo those crab leg stabilizers *drools
Why don’t you have a more powerful twin engine boat. I live in the Chesapeake bay area most of the toe boots here are twin engine and outboard for improved mobility.
If it were up to me I would have a twin engine boat but it's not so this is what I use.
Run what you brung
Nice to see young bucks taking care of things good job keep up with your good work and help your partner out tell him grow some coconut nuts use the throttle!! God bless you and your family!!! Timmy c Bristol ct
LOL. Thanks Tim! Capt Zach was still pretty new when we did this salvage so he's gotten better about using throttle when needed...but he also works on the boats in the shop with the boss so he treats the boats with a bit more care since he knows he'll be the one to fix it if it breaks!
U guys look professional and I like that I been on water since 10 now 54 I love water and boats I had a boat like yours and it brought back memories of own it long gone since loosing my shop I had to sell it Chris craft 30ft same platform with a Buick V6 I like older boats it was the mayor of ri he used it to go to work every day he lived on the island and used the boat as his car ! Nice texting you and keep up the good work and videos Capt Zack!
Why do you guys not have walkie talkies? Or maybe CB radios or something that you can communicate with the other captain?
We have VHF marine radios we could've used. The problem is that the boat capt Zach was on is so loud that he was wearing earmuffs so he wouldn't have been able to hear anyways
Why you guys dont use radios to communicate to other boats. Hand held vhf or pmr phones would make coms easier.
We have radios, but that other boat is so loud inside you can't hear shit
First video i have seen of yours. I know you probably seldom ever do anything around trees, but I just have to ask. If you were there the night before and seeing all those roots, why didn't you bring a chainsaw or a sawzall?
Correct. usually when we deal with boats in trees its an easy pull out and we don't have to cut them free. In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them and in the hour I had to prepare for the salvage, they still hadn't given us the ok to cut them.
@@CaptKenO Yeah, I saw you explaining about it after I typed that. I did think about that but figured surely they would let you seeing how deep the boat was up in there. Thank you for clarifying. I deleted the question after you had explained why you hadn’t already. It was KILLING me watching you struggle so hard when cutting just a few roots/limbs would have let you snatch it right out. Great job!
@@rockyvincent7790 yeah, no kidding it was a struggle! 🤣
My original plan was to wait for the high tide that afternoon so the boat would just float over the roots that were holding it, but the FWC was insistent that we get it out ASAP...so that kinda threw the whole thing for a loop 🤷♂️
Government agencies have a knack of making things worse
Generally yes, it sure seems like it. They have their reasons...it just might not be something that we agree with :)
Have you heard of Yankum kinetic recovery ropes? I think they would do miracles for you
Yes I have. I've wondered about using them too since I've seen them used on Matt's off road recovery and heavy D sparks. In this situation it wouldn't have worked, but it could be useful on groundings. The two things I'm worried about is what the saltwater would do to them and the fact that they sink, so more likely to get caught up in a prop
Do you know if the people were OK I sure hope so cause that's insane
Somehow yes. All of the people on that boat walked away with only minor injuries
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Thanks Iceman!
So would this be considered a soft or hard ungrounding? Asking for a friend 😂
Neither....salvage
I can see the value of a battery powered chainsaw on those roots.
Would've been nice if I had one available
At least they were boating and not driving. A BUI is better than a DUI since the water is less crowded and you're less likely to kill an innocent person.
Very true. Neither is good, but yes. Less crowded on the water. They were extremely lucky that no one died or was even hurt on their boat after this crash
Venice police rocking a Yellowfin? Jeez
Good to see our tax dollars going to something cool at least 🤣
Was hoping you would have cut the roots out of the way before trying the pull. Chainsaw was needed first. There was no way that thing was coming out clean without some cutting and clearing.
Mangroves are protected in Florida, so they wanted us to try and get the boat out without cutting them. Yes, a chainsaw would've been nice, but didn't have one available
@@CaptKenO Maybe the best thing to say to them right off the bat is either I'm snapping mangroves and possibly tearing the boat up or I have to do some strategic cutting first. Pulling when you know it ain't coming seems like a recipe for more issues.
My ONLY. Comment is please get a stationary GoPro. The constant moving of your head makes it very difficult to watch.
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Yup, I agree...chainsaw.....10 mins, no more roots, boat out.
Definitely would've been nice if I had access to a chainsaw...but I couldn't get access to one on such short notice so I made due with what I had
And no one stole the drain plug!!!
The local PD was on scene from early morning until we finished up so as to protect the crime scene
It's not the dark, it's the alcohol.
that shamrock 20 pilot house is cool.
It may look cool, but it's my least favorite boat to operate. it's cramped, extremely loud, and since we're sitting on the engine cover of a Cummins, extremely uncomfortable brain shaking vibrations especially at low RPMs
The police just chillaxed watching you work for all that time? 😂
Hahaha. Yep 😂
They were there because it was a crime scene, but they are all really nice guys and regardless, they would've been there had I asked
Personally I would have tried pulling it directly toward the river over the top of the branches stern first.
It's very hard to pull a boat up and over things when pulling from lower down, and the mangroves where thick enough that they wouldn't have given under the weight of the boat
Should have you a boom on the back of your boat so you could lift and pull from higher up so you never pulling down on a stuck vessel
A boom wouldn't help due to the leverage effect it would have on my boat from pulling at a higher point. I'm fact, it would be very detrimental because unlike a tow truck, my boat doesn't have a hard surface to push against
You guys should carry A chainsaw on board for those types of recoveries.& Situations so it helps with making the boat pulling easier on yourselves to out there. And it's A whole lot less wear.& Tear on your own boats to.
Usually when we deal with boats in trees it’s an easy pull out and we don't have to cut them free. In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them and in the hour I had to prepare for the salvage, they still hadn't given us the ok to cut them. It definitely would've been nice to have a proper chainsaw but I got rid of mine when I moved to the area and couldn't borrow one on short notice
Same thought I had!
Why is it that all the tow channels that I watch do not use walkie talkies to communicate with each other instead of using hand signals.
I can't say for other operators, but we have VHF marine radios we could've used. The problem is that the boat capt Zach was on is so loud that he was wearing earmuffs so he wouldn't have been able to hear anyways
who makes that smaller tow boat us? that thing is tiny
Lol 😂
It's a shamrock pilot house
I guess you could not use a chain saw to remove the roots
The FWC preferred we didn't since the mangroves are protected
The sea tow captain is my neighbor lol
Craig? That's cool. He's a super nice guy!
@CaptKenO ya and his son Cameron both great people
They sure are! If you go look at some of my other videos from when I worked in Venice, you'll see them helping out on a few other occasions as well.
I had actually tried to work for them both before I started with TBUS Venice and when I was looking to leave, but unfortunately both times they didn't have any open full time positions
Could it have been pulled from the front easier. Seems like it would have
Through a solid mass of mangroves? Nope. Trust me. I looked at that option. The bow was buried in the mangroves and wasn't going anywhere but backwards
What could possibly go wrong
Too many to list...
Nice videos, more would be better. Shout out to Broncos Guru to the heads up.
Thanks!
@@CaptKenO chainsaw & a chainsaw operator might be handy to have on your team.
Assuming there aren't laws against cutting into the mangroves.
Oops! Shoulda watched the entire video before commenting!
Nice salvage job!
Dang, Venice Police get some nice boats.
They sure do!
Great work, just found the channel, interesting recovery, glad no one was seriously hurt.
My Mom has her winter condo( I guess that’s what you’d call it) in Venice. Im pretty sure that has to be the same Venice. In her area, u can find fossil shark teeth in the water along the beach, as well as megalodon, but we had to scuba dive to find them. Does anyone know if this’s the same area?
Sound like it. Manasota Beach is one of if not the best shark tooth hunting areas in the country!
You are clearly running a successful business, so please do not take my comment as criticism.
Have you ever checked out yankum ropes? I’m sure this situation was far from “normal” but may be worth while for you to keep a dynamic rope as a piece of gear.
Also, check you their soft shackles.
I am not affiliated with them, but I do keep their gear in my jeeps and on my trailers. Made In Idaho with American materials.
Great video- still scratching my head as to “how” this went down…. Blown away no one was seriously hurt!
I've wondered about using them too since I've seen them used on Matt's off road recovery and heavy D sparks. In this situation it wouldn't have worked , but it could be useful on groundings. The two things I'm worried about is what the saltwater would do to them and the fact that they sink, so more likely to get caught up in a prop
@@CaptKenO Good points- saltwater plays havoc on just about everything. Might be worth giving them a shout over though? I’m not sure about yankum, but other companies do make floating and high visibility shackles now.
Really like the videos!
I've reached out to yankum ropes about the salt water resistance, so we'll see what they say
Nicest cop boats I’ve seen. Yellowfin!
It's good to see my tax dollars being used for good :) They've definitely got some nice boats for the local police and sheriff here, but they are well deserved!
Look at all the funding for the sherrifs depth!!!
Yep! :) They've definitely got some nice boats for the local police and sheriff here, but they are well deserved!
What was the crime?
Not sure they were ever actually charged...
@@CaptKenO the copper said he was staying there because it was a crime scene. What was the potential crime he was thinking of if you know? Is it illegal to harm the mangroves?
@@engineclinic pretty much any boating accident scene is a crime scene and there was lot of beer cans and I think some marijuana...
I spoke too soon, you did use a saw
Yep 😂
Why are the sheriff and the the local police always so nice and the fish cops and sometimes the cg so miserable to people
FWC and CG tend to be more hardal asses, yes...but they're generally doing enforcement. At least around here, the sheriff and pd are more about education and keeping people safe, so they'll pull people over if doing something they shouldn't, but usually educate them on why the rule is there and then let them go...but that also depends on what rule and how badly it was broken. BUI, you're screwed no matter what.
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I've wondered about using them too since I've seen them used on Matt's off road recovery and heavy D sparks. In this situation it wouldn't have worked, but it could be useful on groundings. The two things I'm worried about is what the saltwater would do to them and the fact that they sink, so more likely to get caught up in a prop
Why don't you use radio with guy you working with instead of hand signals
We have VHF marine radios we could've used. The problem is that the boat capt Zach was on is so loud that he was wearing earmuffs so he wouldn't have been able to hear anyways
Mangroves. Nothing but thick weeds. They'll grow back thicker in a couple of minutes.😂
That's not true at all. If it were, they wouldn't be a protected species
Need a stihl battery powered chain saw
Usually when we deal with boats in trees it’s an easy pull out and we don't have to cut them free. In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them and in the hour I had to prepare for the salvage, they still hadn't given us the ok to cut them. It definitely would've been nice to have a proper chainsaw but I got rid of mine when I moved to the area and couldn't borrow one on short notice
Why a crime scene?? (Cindy)
Because it was a boating accident and there was beer cans and weed found
@@CaptKenOwell, yeah, clearly there are lots of weeds! (Just kidding)
you could use "yankem tow ropes"
I've thought about it and lots of other people have recommended it, but they don't float, so all the benefits of the kinetic rope would be lost dragging it up from the bottom
@@CaptKenO I have seen it used on land... perhaps you could attach floats?
Yeah. They work amazingly good on land for sure! Floats would kinda make it a pain in the ass to use, I don't know how well it would hold up to the salt water, plus a whole bunch of potential other issues, makes it an unviable option
Guess I just needed to watch it all the way through first 😂
Yep :) In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them
@@CaptKenO I wondered if they were protected. Again as I watched the video all the way through. That was answered also. Great job!
Trees will grow, oh well government
Have you thought of maybe a tree trimmer to cut branches out of your way.
Usually when we deal with boats in trees it’s an easy pull out and we don't have to cut them free. In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them and in the hour I had to prepare for the salvage, they still hadn't given us the ok to cut them. It definitely would've been nice to have a proper chainsaw but I got rid of mine when I moved to the area and couldn't borrow one on short notice
If you only clean those trees, that boat is already on the water
In this case because they were mangrove trees, we had to get special permission to do that from the FWC. They really didn't want us to which is why we tried pulling it out first without cutting them. My original plan was to wait for the high tide that afternoon so the boat would just float over the roots that were holding it, but the FWC was insistent that we get it out ASAP...so that kinda threw the whole thing for a loop 🤷♂️
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