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My First Time Using Lift Bags to Refloat a Boat - Salvage
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2022
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I am no longer employed as a contracted captain by Coastal Towing and Marine Services LLC DBA as TowBoat US Venice.
This video is not and was not endorsed by TowBoat US Venice or Boat US. The views expressed in this video are strictly my own and not those of TowBoat US Venice or Boat US. My second week working for TowBoat US. 15nm sw of Venice to Apollo Beach FL
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I have done this job for over 20 years. If you need any advice for the proper equipment I would be glad to help. Starting by stop using scuba regulator first stage use negative bolts like on air banks in scuba diving centers. This configuration will fill your lift bags in around 20 seconds. A 12v 1000 gallon / hour or a diesel agricultural pump. Instead of many small scuba tanks try 50 L X 300 bars air banks. Comparison 4 X (12 L 200 bars) = 9600L.
1 X ( 50L 300 bars) = 15000 L almost twice.
Salvage rubber cylinders are better than lifting bags. 2 of them is enough to lift the whole boat. They are heavy duty specially made for this job.
Use at least 20 meters rope between your boat and the salvage boat to reduce stress on your engine and in case of the salvage boat sinking again you will have enough time to cut the rope and save your own boat from sinking with it.
For all the equipment I mentioned if you want drop me a message I will send you the links where you can find them.
I appreciate your hard work even being on your own.
Thanks Odel. Unfortunately equipment is not up to me. I just work as an independent contractor for the guy who owns the boats/equipment
@@CaptKenO . Oh! Ok I understand. You do a great job buddy you deserve better. Your boss should think about your safety first. If you need help to learn scuba diving to add a plus to your job am here to help. I am a certified PADI scuba instructor number 641157 and Cmas course director number 382392. I really appreciate your hard work. I have been in diving and salvaging before reaching the legal age (18 years old)
@@odeltarkhan3033 I was actually thinking about getting certified this summer. Where are you based out of?
@@CaptKenO I am in UK for the moment. But no worry I can help you with the theory and you do the practical certification in a center in USA. Understanding scuba diving is very easy if you have a good instructor.
Would a hookah rig work? To fill the bags
Your subscriber numbers are heading up! Great channel for those of us that like watching interesting things without fake drama
Thanks for the support Jack!
Bravo nice job I am so happy to have you on our team I know who to call when I need your help👍
Thanks Rodney!
Great video! It gives a person a real sense of how long things take, especially if it's done solo.
Thanks David!
Really enjoy you talking to us like we were there with you!
If you keep talking to us while you're working bet it will help your numbers growing!!
Thanks Rick! It's definitely something I know I need to work on, but it just feels weird talking to myself when other people are around. That's why it worked better in this video because i was the only one around :)
Outstanding, wholesome live action!
Thanks for the support!
Next best thing to salvaging a vessel yourself is to watch someone else do it! Critique: wear swim trunks/shorts and have a dive/snorkel mask on board so you can get up close and personal! Great video Capt.! 👍👍
Thanks Mikey! I've got both on board but didn't feel like completely stripping down, and didn't want to put my head under without anyone else there in case I got whacked in the head
Nice work. I predict you will be an expert with the bags before too long and will be able to make them work for you with minimal effort and injury. Doc
Thanks Doc! I think I've got a good handle on them now...just have to find the attachment points faster next time :)
Connecting the pump directly to the battery risks a battery explosion. A fused pump connection located away from the battery would be a good idea.
Those wires will melt before there's any issue with the battery. It's only drawing 10a under normal operation, so it's not doing anything bad to the battery
That's an extremely low risk. Like winning the lottery
Fantastic job , I admire your willingness and expertise.👍👍
Thanks for the support Theo!
As someone that lives a little north, you should evaluate your safety protocol. Wear shoes when getting in the water around the motor and sharp objects. When getting in the water, you should always have another person on board at the minimum. You can get knocked out very easily. Be safe
Shoes wouldn't have been a bad idea. I wasn't planning on getting in the water and we didn't have another boat/captain available anyway...but yes, having another person there when getting in the water is always a good idea
All bay fishing, I don't mean to sigle you out but.....
Exactly how much do you think it would cost to follow every safety protocol, and have two men available to do this salvage?
People like you complain he's not being safe enough, but then if he does like you say, you'll be bitching about the bill!
Don't listen to these arm chair warriors capt. Listen to YOUR little voice and do what your experience tells you. Yes I realize this is your first time using bags, but I bet its not your first time seeing them be used.
@@michaelpowell9164 honestly I could care less. I see injuries and a few deaths on the water all the time that could have been prevented by a little planning. It never hurts to ask others how to do something, esp when you have never done it before.
Exactly right. Can never be too cautious.
Always keep a pair of reef shoes in your gear bag .
Hey that's a classic Shamrock Cuddy! I got an 83 open fish shammy.. DAM GOOD boats.. Classic Keel inboard drive.
Really enjoying the videos. Keep them coming. Lift bags work, but with a lot of effort attaching. Great job on a difficult task. I think I would have taken the owner and let him get wet.
Thanks Gary. He did offer before I went out, but the last thing I want is to have an owner looking over my shoulder the entire time...especially when I'm not 100% confident in what I'm doing :)
Besides, if I did have him do the attachment part, I still would've had to double check it to make sure it was done properly
Much love. Those bags are labor intensive.
Thanks Kevin! They sure are!
I wondered if you ever used lift bags. We use to utilize them back in Illinois to get automobiles retrieved from quarries. That was many years ago!
Occasionally we do...most of the salvage work we deal with doesn't require bags thankfully!
Great job nicely done
Thanks Michael!
Hey Capt Ken, mate giday from Aussie, top vlog, really enjoy it, but bloody hard doing it on ur own. Especially ur first time with bags, well done 🇦🇺👍💪hey they may even be able to save their motor. I think u need a bigger boat of maybe a Woman touch to organise the one you've got🤣🤣🤣
Lol. Thanks mate! It's a smaller boat because we do more shallow water work down in Englewood where this boat works. I don't run this boat that often, so it's setup the way the other captain has it. See my other videos with the bigger boat and it's a bit more organized! 😁
@@CaptKenO ok I'm on the hunt for ur other videos, take care and if it's not on it's not on, got it stay safe.
Anderson connectors for your dewatering pump and lower gauged wire along with a shorter discharge hose would make a big difference.
Clamps are better in case I need to put the pump on the other boat. These clamps are shit, but the wire gauge is fine. The length of the hose is good too because there is nothing worse than having a de watering pump with a hose that can't reach overboard
Cool video, interesting. That pump is useless. You need a real pump.
I'm a commercial diver, and I do black water, shallow water work too. And I'm cheap... just throwing that out there if you want help next time.. lol.
We have our own divers and I got certified last summer as well, but thank you for the offer!
@CaptKenO I used to dive so much it was not fun anymore... it got to be as exciting and fun as grocery shopping when you are on a strict budget. Lol. Now that I'm old and retired and don't HAVE to be in the water at a job or project, I use any excuse to get in my gear and go dive.. even if it's only 3 feet deep! Hahaha.. full gear, wetsuit, extra tanks... in knee-deep water. Lol.
Years ago I dove for golf balls for a company in my spare time. Even in February, I would break ice to get in the ponds, I wetsuits. In the warmer months, I would be swimming with alligators and leopard leaches in Hilton head SC. Nothing like coming out of gator infested pond watching out for snakes and finding a leach on your wet suit, and hopefully you don't get smacked with a golf ball beside the head from a bad goofer. But I made good money and got my picture taken for $10 a picture of me and the alligators reaching out handing a golfer, a golfball. I gave up in 1996 and got a job with the forest service hanging out the side of a helicopter over wild fires. Now I'm retired and kind of like diving for the fun of it. Lol
@hearsejr lol 😂
Sounds like you've had your fair share of interesting jobs over your career!
@CaptKenO lol yeah.. it was more fun then work to me... lol.
Question to Tow Boat US , Do you fellas have routine check on out board engine to boat check of Nuts Bolts for tightness , I see lot owners boats don't check nuts bolt of out boards on securely among other stuff
On our boats? No. But our boats are serviced every 100hrs, so about every month or so
Hi mate enjoying the videos.
quick question, is your boat jet drive or prop?
You seem to spend a lot of time in shallow water
Hey Matt. Thanks for the support and glad you liked the video! This boat has a single prop keel drive. It'll run though 18in water, so it's good enough for 99% of what we deal with
Thanks champ. I suppose it’s sandy bottom mostly anyway. Have fun and stay safe. Cheers
Ty for posting interesting content. It's just a shame you appear to cut off the endings, making the uploads pointless to view. although you place captions telling us the outcomes, it's not as entertaining.
I look to see how you've ended before wasting time viewing.
But again ty for your efforts in editing and producing content
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What happens to a sunk boat like this after you deliver it to the dock? Is the engine salvaged? I assume all electronics are toast. Is the boat itself restored?
For this boat, I'm guessing it was disposed of. The engines you can sometimes salvage and the hull is usually good enough, but electronics are almost always fried and the electrical wiring should be replaced but often is not.
I am curious as to why you didn"t pump out the water when you refloated the skiff?
I tried, but it was easier to just tow it to the haul out where we could pull the drain plug
Mmm, interesting what caused this boat to kinda half sink 🤔 any comments on this silliness?
Oh man. This was a long time ago and I only heard 2nd hand from my boss since I didn't actually talk to the customer...but I'm pretty sure it got swamped by a wake and I know for a fact the bilge pump wasn't working
😂 Another place a soft shackle could have come in handy! 🍺🤣
Maybe :) Do you know if one would fit through the eyelet on a boat?
There is a company down in miami called fast response and they have a UA-cam channel. Watch how they right flipped and sunk boats. Much safer operation.
I've watched them before. Definitely not safer. Anytime you're towing a boat at planning speed more things can go wrong and go wrong faster. That being said, they also generally have to tow much farther than I did, so it would take an eternity going slow with the lift bags
So how come you not just drag it nose first as you did with the capsized 24 footer?
My old boat (the one in this video) couldn't go fast enough to get this boat on plane and let it drain
Dude, you have balls the size of watermellons. On your own you scored that? Balls. I sub to your channel...can't wait to see how sick you get recovering boats...but I would have a partner in case of chaos. Doing this solo is nutty. Cheers!
Lol 😂 Thanks mate! Definitely would be nice on some jobs to have a deckhand. Look for one of my videos involving a capsized Bayliner and the 2nd part recovering the T Top that broke off
I see your note about bilge pump problems, but what was the cause of the water ingress?
I didn't stick around long enough after dropping the boat off to see, but the owner had mentioned earlier to me that maybe it was the seacock for the livewell that failed.
Blood in the water = 2X regular pay, right?? I hope so.
I wish
Would a strap under the stern with the lift bags on either side and actually in the water not have made it easier, most of the bags ghe way you had them weren't providing any lift.
Water wasn't deep enough...but yes. Getting the bags actually underwater would be better
Any idea of the source of the leak. Great job
Not sure since I didn't stick around, but best guess would be one of the through hull fittings broke
Great job buddy🤣🤣🤣
Thanks Aldrin!
Did this vessel get swamped? What caused sinking
Not 100% sure what caused the boat to start taking on water. Most likely a through hull fitting somewhere broke off, and once the bilge pump failed, they were doomed
bro...twin engine boat hoook up to the front ring and start pulling....make sure plug is out and run the water right out of it
First off. I don't have a twin engine boat. second, you're assuming the water will leave faster than it comes in...which it most likely would've done until I had to slow down to get into the marina. Hence why I used lift bags
Gotta ask... is this service included in my unlimited towing membership?
Good question Peter! Salvages are not included in your membership unfortunately. However, if you have hull insurance most will reimburse you for this kind of work
You missed the money shot showing the damage…what happened
There was no damage...not sure why it sunk
Fenders???
What about them?
Why did it sink
I don't know. The owner talked to my boss and all I was told is the boat is here, needs to be refloated, and brought back to the marina 🤷
Y Not pull it like u do so many times?
Sorry for bad spelling. M
This old boat was too slow to get the other boat up on plane and drain it
What your you draft? Are those jet propolsion?
Single screw keel drive. The big boat draws ~2ft the small one ~1.5ft
@@CaptKenO I own both. A '96 20' walkaround (wide beam) and an '87 26' Hardtop. Shamrocks are tanks. Those keels come in handy when skipping in the shallows.
Show us your boat what make what engine ect...
You're the 2nd one to ask for that video. Maybe I'll make that video in a couple of weeks for you
How does one get involved in a towboat job
Get your OUPV (6-pack) captains license (or master of any tonnage) and get the towing endorsement.
There are towboat companies all over the country, even on some of the larger lakes, so call on of them up after you get you license and see if they're hiring!
Great job only thing you did that I cringed for is when you went between the two boats never .never put yourself there again !!!! anything could have happened to you other wise keep doing what you doing !!!
Generally, yes. Body parts between a boat and another boat/hard place is a bad idea. In this case, I didn't have a whole lot of options, and with the wind and current pulling my boat away and the sunk boat being low down, I felt I had a good enough safety margin there. Whether I did or not, who knows. Luckily I didn't have to find out :)
Just tow it alongside your boat so the pump can keep working till you reach the dock 😊
This boat isn't setup to hip tow. You'll see in all of my older videos from working in Venice/Englewood I never hip tow because they're all single screw inboards, so no control
@@CaptKenO Ok, didn’t know that. Good job anyway
i would have jumped im there wit a 5 gallon bucket and helped that pump out and got thru faster thats how we do it here
Why over exert yourself when there's a better easier way to do it?
Work smarter not harder 😀
@@user-vh5up7lq6u you are paid by the hour would be my thoughts i was talking if this were my boat lol
Thats a self bailing cockpit... plug every transom and deck drain before you put a pump on it.....
The plugs were in the deck drains already
Darn, an hour video and we miss one of most interesting parts at the end because the camera wasn't pointing in the right direction.
That's why I use a 360 camera now...What part did you really want to see?
@CaptKenO Thanks, I just wanted to see what was used at the dock to lift the boat, how much water came out of the thing, and if there was any visible signs of damage to the hull.
They used the forklift, a shit ton of water came out, and no visible damage from what I could see
360 view is great. Thanks.
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I would love this job. Just about like a tow truck on the water.
It's exactly like that! When people ask what I do, I say I'm basically AAA for boats
No disrespect, but why not anchor close to this boat and then tie over next to it? Also, what about just towing the boat as it sat up on plane. I've seen it done numerous times and it looks much easier than what you did here. Just trying to learn the plusses and minuses of different techniques.
That boat would not tow up in a plane, it would possibly roll. The way to do it is tie a boat to each side until gunnels are above water line and use a high power trash pump. His methods are very dangerous. You should never get in the water by yourself. And most respected companies rarely get in the water ever.
@@allbayfishing9456 Thanks for the reply. I learned a long time ago that pros make difficult things look easy. When it looks difficult than either you don't understand what is going on or there is a better/safer way that isn't being used.
I was hoping I could reach everything from on the boat, so I was trying to avoid having to get off one and climb on the other. Getting the boat up on plane works, but you need a 2nd boat to get alongside and pump it out. I didn't have a 2nd boat/captain available to help today, so that wasn't an option. Also, anytime you're towing a boat at planning speed more things can go wrong and go wrong faster.
The proper way is to use lift bags to lift and stabilize the boat and then pump it out. To install most lift bags you need someone in the water to attach them
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Good work but I see tripping ❤❤hazards all over the boat
That's what happens when there's no room on the boat for gear storage
If your gonna do that job as a professional invest in a good bilge pump it would save you a lot of work
I have one. As I stated in the video, pumping out the boat wasn't part of the plan
I guess you dont have any buddies to help you. Thats not only a shame but very dangerous. You need to have a buddy when you do most of the crazy shit you do.
Haha. For insurance reasons, we can't have non employees working on the boat. If I ever needed help, scotty (the other captain that ran this boat with me) wouldn't hesitate to help me even if it was the middle of the night. This job, even though it was my first time using lift bags, I didn't need help. If it was a bigger boat, than yeah, I probably would've asked scotty to help out.
Part of the job is being able to work independently. We don't have enough crew to put 2 people on every job since most of the time it's not necessary, and definitely can't justify the extra cost. I'm lucky where I work now that my boss is more than willing to bring a 2nd boat, ride along with me, or meet me at the destination if needed
no need for the front bag
probably not, but it was there as an extra safety measure
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Makes me sick...to me that's the perfect boat..or was anyway.
It will be again. The engine was probably mostly ok too