Transposing Apple Loops To Match Chord Changes in Logic Pro X
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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Good advice man! Good for beginners or folks familiar w/ Logic. If you have experience w/Logic and just want to find out how to transpose to a chord not available in the loop group that you are working with, skip to 5:56. Great explanation of a good way to achieve this goal. Thanks for saving me time Bob!
Thank you!
You can use the transposition global track. Just click to put dots on the line and drag the section between the dots. Similar to how the volume automation line and dots work.
You can import the mandolin audio file in Celemony Melodyne Edit and change any note in any chord to create any new voicing you desired. So you can change a major 3rd note to a minor 3rd etc and other chords on any prerecorded audio. Just a note
Great! Thanks for the comment. I was trying show this process without buying an expensive plugin. I have Melodyne but most don't so I was just using Logic's stock plugins. Thanks.
Thank you so much! I have tried unsuccessfully to figure this out for over a year. I never subscribe to anyone's channel but I made an exception in your case. You are a good teacher!
Glad I could help! Thanks for the sub!!
Holy camoly. This is like the hidden holy grail for music productions using loops with different keys. OMFG😱 Now I can finally restore my arrangements with out of key loops. I stopped using loops for this issue and started making my own music from scratch with no loops. The obvious was all the time in my face (transposing via semi tones counting). Awesome.
Glad you found this useful! Thanks.
THANK YOU SO MUCH BOB SIR, FOR THE EDUCATION. ANYONE WHO WATCHES THIS SHOULD PLEASE TELL THEM THANK YOU IT IS A KIND THING TO DO OFTEN.
Thank you Sir!! Cheers!
You're a life saver! Maybe that's why your voice is so much like Mitch from the old "Bay Watch" show ^_^
Thank you!
Dramatello I'm not familiar with Mitch but thanks just the same! I'm glad this helped you! Thanks for the comment!! All the best!
for me he sounds like Mike from Breaking Bad lol you are a great great teacher by the way
Thank you so much for this Bob. I can't read music & don't really understand keys etc. This made it so easy to understand.
Thank you for that great comment!
Pretty cool that we now can transpose any audio file!
Awesome. I'd been wondering about this and haven't used the region inspector for much up until now and would NEVER have found this otherwise I suspect. Thank you.
You're welcome! Thanks for the comment Mark!
Very helpful! I've wondered how to make better use of the loops this way--I never noticed Logic "respecting' the chords I've got going on in MIDI tracks with any loops I've added afterwards--now I know how to make more intelligent use of them!
One quick tip I don't see in other comments: rather than duplicating track clips, if you hover over the end of a loop, your pointer tool will change: if you hover over the top half of the end, it will change to a LOOP POINTER, which will DUPLICATE the loop exactly from its beginning (so you could have a pair of measures with C-F, but then just dupe the loop rather than copy and paste), and continue until you stop duplicating, even starting over if you stretch it multiple times its original length. I think it's better to refer to this as "cloning.".
Hovering over the BOTTOM half of the end will change your pointer to a RESIZE POINTER, which allows you to add blank "tape" to the end of a loop.
You've probably figured all that out, but this is for anyone who might see this after me who either didn't know you could do that, or wondered why you didn't. Different strokes for different folks. I just thought I'd toss that in for options.
But the meat of this tutorial is VERY helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for passing on the tip Michael!
That's awesome!! Had no idea that was possible, very easy to comprehend too. Thank you, well done!
Hey, thank you for that great comment!
I'm using the transpose feature in Logic Pro X to create chord changes in Apple Audio Loops.
Your advice was good! Just wasn't hitting'enter' after changing the key in transposition. Thanks!
Thanks for the clear and concise tips Bob - exactly what I needed!
Glad this helped! Thanks.
Well explained! Im just getting started with logic x and it helped me a lot, thanks!
+León Cremonini Glad this helped you Leon. All the best Logic X!
You can make it a minor if it's in major by fine tuning it by -5 or +5
amazing tutor , great job
Thanks for posting. Answered my question and a little more
Thanks Randall! I'm glad this helped.
Thanks Bob ,I didn't know to to Manipulate the Loops chords to Adapt my Songs ,I'm really aprecciate your knowdlege.
Thank you!
Clear, easy to understand advice that works!! Thanks!!
Thank you! I really appreciate your comment!!
Very good little tricks. Thank you!
Thanks for the comment!!
Excellent, definitely going to use that.
Enjoy!
Very useful. Also some don't change so well I figured out using flex can help them transpose cleaner on some
Never tried using it with Flex Pitch. Great idea! Thanks for the tip!!
That was an excellent explanation. Very clear, very thorough, and answered all the questions I had. Thank you 😊
Great! Thanks.
After 2 days of looking for this, many thanks great video
Glad you found what you are looking for.
I have been trying to figure this out THANK YOU!
You’re welcome! Thanks for the comment!
Excellent tutorial. And BTW no, do not cut this video into 30 seconds!! Those that want it shorter can drop it into Logic and flex it down to 10% LOL…. This is so much clearer than the Logic User Guide. Did Apple contact you to re-write it yet?
Thank you!
Thanks Adam! Appreciate the the comment!
Thanks Adam!
This was very helpful and just what I was looking for. Looking forward to putting it into practice. Thank you!
You're so welcome!
Great tutorial. Thanks Bob!
Thank you!!
Bob this was invaluable. Thank you so much buddy!
+Amir Haider Great! Glad you found this valuable!!
Thank you for the help. Got the key change with the loops now. :)
Glad it helped!
great tutorial. I have absolutely no music theory, but I'm having fun trying to get the right sound in logic anyway. Hopefully I'll absorb some of the theory along the way from people such as yourself. :) When I go to the top to find out what the scale of my song is, nothing is there.
Using your ears may be better right now than theory. Theory can be helpful but using your ears is the final test.
that's what I'm doing, but when I hear something wrong, I don't always know how to fix it. lol. I appreciate you answering my post, I subbed, and I'll be tuning into to all of your videos. Thanks so much.
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Bob Sell beginner stuff when it comes to music would be great. Such as, "How to make a chord, using musical typing, and which chords usually go together as a rule." Seems simple, but this would be great knowledge for a beginner to have. I know it might be hard to make it basic because there are a lot of ways to break the rules in art, but a series of tutorials that focus on say, three to five notes that work great together, to create certain moods. This way a beginner could work on those for practice and then you could slowly start to expand with future videos. Really useful stuff for a person such as myself. Thanks for asking!
Natural Gallant Bodybuilding I'll try to put something together on chord construction and chord progressions for the beginner after the holidays. Thanks for the suggestions.
Thanks, it was just what I needed! Very clear tutorial.
Sigrid Lee I'm glad you found it helpful! Thank you for commenting! Much appreciated!!
Great tutorial! Easy to follow.
Thank you!
Thanks so much Bob!
You're welcome!
appreciate it but you could cut this video into 30 seconds
this is one hell of a great tutorial - thanks
Thank you for that comment!
you're very welcome
Very helpful . Thank you
Great! Thanks!
This was very helpful and clearly explained. Thanks!
+Jack Nimble Thanks Jack for the comment! Glad this helped your out!!
or try relative major audio loop for minor chord. great video!
+Andrew Bland Great idea! Thanks!
They came with Logic Pro X. Just make sure you "download additional content" option in Logic. Good luck...
Thanks Bob for the quick reply.
Very helpful. Thanks 🙏
Glad it was helpful!
Hello M. Sell, thank you for another great video... I"d like to add something I noticed in case some people run into the same issue I had. When you choose another color track for your apple audio file, the option "transpose " does not appear. Therefore after checking in the manual which said that the option works with either green or blue apple loops, I reimported my audio loop without assigning a color, and the transpose parameter appeared!
Wow! That's great to know! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you brother
Welcome
Thanks Bob Sell Brother !!! I love this video !!
+ARTnARTnet You are welcome! Thanks for the comment!
Bob, thank you. I learned something new and ver useful. Much appreciated.
Glad it was helpful!
Well put. Thank you!😀
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks to share your knowledge !
You're welcome!
Thanks for the knowledge!
RemyMill Your welcome! Thanks for the comment!!
It's a big problem managing major n minor chords.
Brilliant Bob, really helpful. Thank you.
Thanks Allan!
Very helpful. Thank you!
Welcome!
Great! Thanks for the tip.
You're welcome!
Where can one hear that song? I'd like to give some constructive feedback. So, if it's on Soundcloud then you can get some good input from your audience. Good song btw!
+Johan Brodd Thanks Johan! All of my completed tracks are on SoundCloud: soundcloud.com/gofirjet
Good job! Thanks for the vid
Thanks Mario!
This was a feature in Sony's "Acid Pro" for years and years. To be able to take a snippet of audio, and right-click and go higher or lower with the transpose -- with .wav files.
I have tried all options to get this feature in Logic Pro, but to no avail WITHOUT USING APPLE LOOPS. I have dozens of sampling CDs, all in .wav format.
Call me a quack, but I think Apple is forcing people to use their proprietary format to be able to transpose pitch for audio files.
I'm not sure how Logic Pro converts all these .wavs to apple loops. Is it essentially duplicating everything? And then you're forced into using it's little browser? That's a huge waste of space on my hard drive. And it's a major hassle.
I don't know how i'm going to convert hundreds of sample loops to simple be able to use them. And I know Apple could make the feature available to .wav files, but they are playing this little game with it's users.
There is a process to convert wav files to Apple Loops. But you are correct, it's a lot of trouble and you'll be duplicated files. Why don't you just put your wav sample on a track and use Flex Pitch in Logic to transpose? That would be the easiest solution!
Yes, agree..acid pro was great for changing pitch so easily...
Thanks for the video! Learned something about number systems. 👍
You’re welcome!
I'm also curious how you Bounced that one area to combine your cuts into one loop. I went the file button to do this but couldn't find the other options to do what you did. Wait a second, I think I figured it out. lol
Hopefully, you figured it out. But just highlight all of the loops you want to combine, right click or control click and select "Bounce in Place."
you're a life saver. Thanks so much. I know it must be hard to answer questions for beginners such as myself, but I really appreciate your great work. :)
6:35 what you need
Thanks for your help
+Phyllisienne Brincat You're welcome! Thanks for the comment!
You just saved me a LOT of work amigo...Thanks! :)
Glad this helped amigo!
Well done . Thanks
Thank you!
very helpful, thanks.
Thanks Sammy!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Great video bob
Glad you enjoyed it
Where did you get these "cheerful mandolin loops" from? They sounds great.
The "cheerful mandolin loops" are in the Apple Loops Library in Logic Pro X.
Thank You soo much!
Amir Garipler You are welcome!
Genius! Thank you, for sharing.
Thank you!
This has been useful thanks, is the a way to change the key of a region from minor to major?
at 2:02
Studio One DAW does this now.
sweet - just the info I needed! thanks
Glad it was helpful!
wow, thank you so much!!!
+motifes76 you're welcome!
bob ...thanks great video
You’re welcome!
I could kiss you man. I’ve been trying to freaking figure this out on my own for weeks and been annoyed lol 😅 Life saver. Thanks bro
Glad this helped you out!
Hi Bob, When I try to transpose a guitar audio loop, the tranpose only give me =/12 then 24 etc. Why does it not allow me to transpose by semitones ?
Click to the right of the transpose number in the inspector and drag up or down for semitones. Use the arrows to transpose up or down octaves or 12 /24 semitones.
I'm only seeing as an option to transpose by + and - 12, 24, and 36 :-( I'm in logic express. Does the thing you're doing only work on Logic Pro?
+jesster816 The dropdown menu only shows increments of octaves (+ & - 12, 24, etc.). Just double click on the number (0) and it will highlight. Then just type the number. All numbers will be positive unless you precede with the - sign. Hope this helps!
Thx very much bob
Your Welcome!
Bob, where did you get these loops? I have a hard time finding country loops.
Thank you Sir
Most welcome
THANK YOU
You’re welcome
Great explanation, thanks for the great share! Keep it up! :)
Will do! Thank you!
nice... thanks !
Morten Bunes Gustavsen Thanks!
Hi Bob I try to follow your tutorial but still it doesn't transpost to my tracks pls let me know if I miss something cuz I think I already download all the content but I don't know why is not working thnx.
I don't have enough info to answer your question. Try dragging a green or blue Apple loop to the blank area below the tracks and allow Logic to create the track for you and see what happens. Otherwise, take a screenshot or post a video showing the problem and and I'll try to help.
What if the midi is not playing when you drag it in the region..please help..sometime the midi loop don't play what is causing that and what should i be doing to correct this problem?
Many things could cause this. I don't have enough info to answer your question. However, next time this happens try dragging the midi loop to the blank area below the tracks and allow Logic to create the track for you. Otherwise, take a screenshot and send it to me via private message and I'll try to help.
Thanks sweetie..i did go to the channel strip and did some playing around and it worked...thanks so much have a great weekend.
thanks for video... I'm trying to do the same thing but my transpose will only go up/down in segments of 12...where am I going wrong ....please
using the up/down arrows only transposes by 12 semitones. You can click on the number and mouse drag by one semitone or just type the number in the window. Hope this helps.
@@BobSell thanks it worked 😊
Thanks for the reply. I found through fumbling that I could only transpose 1 measure/loop and not the 2 measure I merged. Also, I'm having trouble getting the transpose/etc. numbers to move because my cursor is enlarged via previous version of OSX, in the universal access pane and in the Yosemite 'accessibility' pane, I am not finding it. I think if my cursor was back to normal, though I probably won't be able to see it, I won't have as much trouble. Any idea how to shrink it again? Thanks for the great tutorials. I can't wait to get to more of them, if I can manage to find them....
Gregor Rice There are 2 types of Apple Loops, audio (blue) and software loops (green). You can change the tempo of the song and transpose any of the loops. However, once you merge ("Join") or "bounce in place" audio loops are converted to regular audio files and you lose that flexibility. The audio loops are protected from destructive edits so you can always go back to get the original. One option is to not merge or bounce audio regions. The only time it's really necessary is if you are wanting to edit the audio file using the "Functions" command in the audio editor. Notice all of the functions are grayed-out if you're editing audio apple loops. Software instrument loops create midi regions that are very flexible. You can do about anything with these including editing specific notes in the piano roll to change pitch, note value, velocity, etc. I did not update to Yosemite yet so I don't have the cursor problem. Try clicking on the transpose number to highlight then use your typing keyboard to input the value you want to transpose. If transposing down make sure to use the - sign before the number. Otherwise, all numbers typed default to + positive. Hope this helps.
Bob Sell That's great. Thanks! When I get set up with the full monty, I will use more live midi and s/i loops that are easier to manage. But for now... trying to get some old midi files written with the K-2000 patched in with instruments that 'work' in place, doesn't always work. But NOW, if you're still on the line... I pulled another stunt... thought the cursor was in 'search' field, but not... and I typed in 'guitars' with all HOT keys. So, I got global and 'record' started up... I haven't looked up the other hot key letters yet to see what else I did, but whatever, the 'issue' is that it seems my Library is messed up now. It seems like there are not as many sounds, or ? Don't know, and I know that doesn't help you, but if you have a clue, I need to get my sounds back the way they were. I did 'refresh' the library a couple times but it didn't seem to do anything different. I have all the Logic sounds, of course, then Komplete9, Jampacks 1-2-3, probably something else. Thank you so much for your input. I did go to the Apple forum, but some reason a red box came up and said 'I was not allowed to post' ? That happened a few days before but after typing in more info, it when thru fine. ?
Gregor Rice There is no hot key that I know of that would mess up your Library. G=Global U=Set rounded locator I=Toggles Inspector T=Toggles Tools A=Toggles Automation R=Record. Sorry I'm not help on that one. Good luck!
Is it still not possible to make a Major chord into a minor chord in apple audio loops?
Correct, not possible.
Following this precisely, but no key change. Am in Logic Pro 8. Is that the problem?
Sorry Jeff, I moved from Logic 9 to X about 6 years ago. Before that Pro Tools. Not familiar with Logic 8.
Fabulous! Thanks!
Gregor Rice Thanks for the comment and your support!
Hi Bob! I am an old Acid Pro user that switched to a Mac. Don’t want to install Windows on the Mac just to use Acid Pro but I miss Acid’s ability to transpose and time stretch Acid loops with ease. Have tried using FL Studio and Cubase Elements on the Mac but it’s not the same. After watching this video I think I found my next DAW! Question...will Logic Pro X transpose and timestretch Acid Loops the same way it works with Apple Loops? It would be great if I can use my Acid Loop library in LPX the same way I did in Acid Pro! Thanks for a great video!
I’m not familiar with acid loops. See if this article answers your question:
www.soundonsound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=60606&p=546054&hilit=
Good luck!
@@BobSell thanks, Bob! It really did answer my questions. Looks like I can re-pitch and timestrech all of my old Acid Loops in Logic!
Hi Dear! Don't work this method in my Logic Pro X. How can to do enable this function ? You can help me ? Please!!!
+Aleksej Tatarikow Can you post a video of what you are tying to do?
I can not put a video on how I'm doing. I select the loop and choose the top chord, as you have shown in the video. Then click bounse in place chord will not change, it sounds like the original. Will not transpose.
I can't post a video (((
+Aleksej Tatarikow #1. Are you using Apple Loops? You can not transpose any loop unless they are Apple Loops. #2. Are you selecting the clip/region that you want to transpose before changing the transpose amount? #3. You don't have to bounce in-place to make this work. That was just a clean up item. Play/audition the clip to make sure it transposes before you bounce in-place. #4. I don't think you have to enable this function. It's on all the time. #5. I'm not sure what you mean by choosing the top chord. Hope this helps!
Yes, I use Apple Loops/ I doing like you shown in your video but nothing doesnt work. Thank you.
how can i change the key of my kick (its not a apple loop)
+Jason Brango Thanks for the great question. I would try the Pitch Shifter plugin in Logic. If that doesn't get you the results you're looking for then try Flex Pitch. Hope this helps.
+Bob Sell can you make a video on how to do that?
+Jason Brango I'll see if I can work up something for you. Thanks.
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Hi Bob. I'm trying to re-create your process in an empty song using the same Cheerful Mandolin 11. When I go to the Transpose section for the selected instrument, I only see a drop-down menu to change raise or lower the loop by octaves. I don't see the +1 or +2 options. Am I missing something? BTW, I'm using Logic 10.0.7. Thanks!
Hi Scott, just double click the 0 and change the value. Values are all positive unless you put a -minus before the number. For example, a value of 5 transposes the region up 5 semitones. A value of -3 moves it down 3 semitones. Hope this helps. Good luck!
BTW - in the video I'm clicking and dragging the value up and down with the mouse. I find this easier than typing in values. Always seems to be more than one way to...
Bob Sell Thanks for the quick response, Bob. There was no "0" to double-click. However, I futzed around and discovered the 2 ways to change the pitch: 1) when I place the mouse in the black area next to the word "Transpose" I can raise or lower in semi-tones by holding down the mouse and dragging up or down; and 2) if I double-click in the black area next to the word "Transpose", I can type in +2 or whatever I want. Phew.
@@KidmuseBethandScott I was having this issue, too. Yinz are both geniuses. Thanks!
thanks for your info nice 📀
Thanks!
Couldn't you just join the region's in place instead of bouncing it down? does it make any difference?
Regions that have been transposed, can’t be joined.
Bob Sell oh thank you, I've just updated to logic after using garageband for 2 years
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How do you have all those loops? Do I have to purchase them?
+Noah Moran all of my loops came with logic Pro X. Download the latest version and turn on the advanced mode.
You took 11 min and tested my patience just to explain a simple thing which starts at around @8:00 .. Keep your video to the point and first explain what you have put in your title. then you can talk about anything you want. You could simply said that go to audio track and select transpose option. but no , you went on explaining difference between audio apple loop and then midi apple loop, etc etc.....
Is there really no way to transpose the pitch of your own audio?
You can use any of the pitch tools in Logic or 3rd party plugins.
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