Central Cali. Fosters Freeze lays off all workers after minimum wage goes up to $20
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- Employees at Fosters Freeze in Lemoore are out of a job. All 20 were laid off the day the fast food minimum wage went up to $20 in California.
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Does the governor own the restaurant? Because the owner is the greedy pile of pig shit.
Better go start applying at Panera
For real!! They need to take it up with Gavin. It sucks for the employees and I feel bad for them losing their jobs. The State of California is putting the squeeze on employers by doing this, clearly. Stuff like this is going to be happening more and more in California thanks to people passing laws who are not business owners.
@@waitery theres a saying. when California cough everywhere else will start sneezing ... this 20 dollar an hour will be at a city or town near you ... butter 15 dollars a lb , french fries 10 dollars hamburger 20 bucks etc etc
the girl speakin.g is going to suffer shes huge
My Panera aren't raising their wages every other restaurants are but Panera in California aren't sad and unfair to say..
Yup Panera doesn’t have to follow the wage increase because he’s a part of that group George Carlin taught us about that we’re not in
You guys did know. You voted for him. Big business wants this. They shut down all the small businesses that take from their profit margin. What did you guys expect would happen?
Did they vote for him or are you just talking out your a**
The voting system is rigged they make you think you have a right to vote and choose. They pick who they want. Who new.😊
right. how out of it do you have to be, to not even think this is the likely outcome
@@rickyhyles8346
Maga is no better. They could give a rats ass about small businesses.
$20 an hour doesn't matter if you have no job.
The law applies to businesses that have more than 60 locations . There are special considerations aswell , a business that can show that it cannot operate if they have increased wages , then that business can be exempt , they must prove that increasing prices will not benefit the business in that location . Thing is , this business was probably going to close and I don’t know if this business falls in the category
@@anniedeedrix6732 wow, that was a lot of words.
@@anniedeedrix6732Can fast food places now qualify as non-profit organizations? Get tax credits? They actually will become non-profit. Assuming they can remain open.
@@user-ug4ok3ov2tNaw.. you're just dumb 💯
Wow, and this person votes and defends this.... You're the problem. You get what you vote for I guess
They get what they vote for
I hate when people say this. Idc which side of the aisle you are on, EVERY politician makes promises and lies. You can vote for what you believe you want but that doesn’t mean when the politicians are elected that they will keep thier word or change their promises.
@@TheMmoHaven Yet, people keep voting for the same Democrat trash. Henceforth, you get what you vote for. This was decades worth of failed voting. You ALL need to vote for real change! STOP VOTING FOR THESE FAILED, SELFISH, GREEDY DEMOCRATS!
@TheMmoHaven
Right, like Joebama.
Bwahahaha maqat make joke. Maqat make wurds@@56cadd
@@TheMmoHaven All good points but NONE of the Democrats in the last two terms have no put Americans first. Biden is flying in 100,000 illegals a day.
How about a statement from the Governor? He's the problem not the business owners. 😡
The RATBASTARD Governor of California is the reason you’re out of a job, not the owner. Look we’ve all been young and idealistic and empathize with you but this is the reward you receive for his actions. Democrats use you and POC to get what they want and then abandon you. It’s history, look it up.
Biden said that 20 dollars for food service people will be in place ,soon we will see more businesses closing down
99cents stores are closing now
Nope!
The 99 cent stores are closing due to theft, that's been going on for a minute, it's fast food worker's who got a pay increase. Only and they need way more money dealing with the public
They deserve what they voted for. Then complain about it
No one votes themselves into unemployment.
@@vnyanforj vote blue no matter who 😂
@@vnyanforj actually, you do ! When a politician is voted in BY THE PEOPLE because of their promise to raise Minimum wage, that is the very definition of getting what you voted for. Learn a little something called "Actions equal consequences."
@vnyanforj They did, if they voted blue no matter who.
@@Woketard Can you tell me what your screen name means? Cuz I have $50 that says you won't.
It’s simple math. Why are people confused? More small businesses will close because of this. It’s by design to benefit big corporations and lobbyists
The problem is corruption in the government so we should starve? In texas minimum wage is 7.25 and 12 in nevada no one can live on that unless its in a tent economists agree the federal minimum wage should be around 20-25. Lobbying needs to be made illegal and companies need to be farther regulated not the people starving
Once the cost of the employee is greater than the return they provide the business, or if the new minimum wage is simply unaffordable and causes the business as a whole to become unprofitable, there is no incentive for the business to retain the employees or stay open. Businesses will raise prices and hope people are willing to pay, or this.
Yes they don’t want anyone getting rich
@@Jc-si6pj How childish of a remark. Instead of projecting intent, why don't you learn about unintended consequences?
@@2stoves1 and the employer hgets it the worst its his investment
No type of warning? Business owners in California, both large and small, have been saying that this is what would happen for years. The politicians you vote for in Sacramento are completely unaffected by the stupidity of their policies...
That's why politician salaries should be linked to the average wage of their electorate. Average wages go up, and so does the politicians. Average wages go down, and so does the politicians. Now, there's an incentive for positive financial policy outcomes.
Cali got exactly what they voted for
Yes. I want more money so I don’t go homeless in this hellish housing market.
@@orangeinfernothen improve yourself
@@Charles.Wright how??
@@orangeinfernoentry level jobs are not intended to be careers. They are starting points.
@@gregbetcher1574 yes but still, entry level jobs should still provide enough to survive. What if someone can’t afford a college education? What if this is the best option to them?
I hate when people say that fast food jobs should be starters, and thus should not be something to survive off of, only starting points. It shouldn’t be the final goal but if it’s the only option, it should give a livable wage
Govt, (AGAIN) trys to solve 1 problem &CREATS an endless list of MORE SERIOUS PROBLEMS!!
this is what happens when government attempts to solve a problem with the free market
If you think this market is free your IQ is lower than the minimum wage.
We don't have a free market. Number how many regulators at the federal level alone. This is what you get for getting farther from a free market.
No, this is what happens when 1 business owner is too stupid to run a business.
Entry level jobs don't deserve $20/hr
Everyone deserves a living wage
Do you know the buying power of $20/hr vs $7.25/hr? No one can survive on $7.25/hr, $20/hr is too low for California. These businesses have gotten used to paying these low wages because the government failed to keep the minimum wage tied to inflation.
@@alexricky87 when minimum wage goes up costs go up...its an entry level job its not ment to live on its designed to supplement income or for teenagers
If it was meant to be a job for teenagers then they would all be closed during school hours.
Your absolutely right!! They deserve $40 an hour in this economy 😂
20 bucks an hour for a ice cream shop!?... what do you think is going to happen?...fjb!
FJB
@@violetta00407 it's not Joe Biden that causing California fuck ups. The only person you can blame is Gavin newsom.
Tuck frump @@violetta00407
$20/hr in California cost the business $36+ per hr due to the FICA &unemployment taxes and increased workman’s comp
I’m sure California will start arresting any owner who decides to close their store.
My aunt and i started a small street corn business.
The price of products skyrocketed, we had to raise the price of our items.
Then taxes went up (which not many noticed) so we had to raise the price again.
We file taxes and everything.
We employ three workers, and one day the we got a letter from the county notifying us there would be a pay raise.
My aunt which does all the paper work looked at me and said 'if this effects us ,we would have to shut down. Five years of hard work, struggles,,out the window. (X) (x) (x) and we won't have a job anymore'
It brought me to tears.
Lucky it didn't the law didnt effect us.
people voted for this right? more tablets and less employees. pretty soon youll pay to make your own food
Everybody gets a raise to $20 an hour. April fools, you're all fired.
Poor people you voted for this . Vote differently !
Will it work? Voting I mean. Cause i voted twice in the 2024 SELECTION and my life is still the same. Where's the WALL I was promised?
@@alca4240 Ask the Mexicans where the wall is?
Poor person here: Yea no this is a good thing for most part.
This location had time to prep for this incoming change and instead of doing that they’d rather shut down.
But overall big corpos like Mcdonalds have to pay more money to workers to compensate for rising living costs. Im fine with it. Also the food prices have been raised by like a dollar max it’s not a big deal.
@orangeinferno if you believe that you are a fool. Government over spending and inflation from that is the problem.
@@zack9912000government overspending? So we should slash the military budget and close corporate tax loopholes, right?
People who have tolerated or allow the government to alter free market pricing get exactly the society they deserve.
If you think this market is free your IQ is lower than the minimum wage.
Yeah….
.
Cause business being allowed to do what ever they want has such a great history of working out
Suprise, suprise! Minimum wage goes up and people lose their jobs. If only someone had said something!
Oh, wait. They did.
go woke, go broke? those employess seem like the type. even if its not that kind of issue, how do people expect businesses to stay open with unrealistic wage requirements?
Minimum wage go up?
All you can buy goes up.
Rather keep the minimum wage at the height like it was a few years ago.. it s*cks for them but this way it would be temporarely bad..
Now it's creating inflation, no one thinks about the long term....
What is unrealistic?
It’s 5 bucks more man. I mean for god sake the rent in Cali is 1.5 to 2k a month on the low end. Higher pay is fair if you even want to survive. It’s not unrealistic it’s compensating people with the times. A dollar is worth much less than what it was in the 1980s, and prices have raised for everything too, but the moment pay is raised to compensate it’s “woke problem?”
Also Europe is paying their employees livable wages and they’re not shutting down.
@@user-nf4tm1fc3x the ones that make small businesses close their doors....you know, like the one you just watched this video about. you're so obsessed with identity politics you havent even thought about what you're saying means
@Bbfishman What??? You don't know what you are saying. You keep your identity politics!
Reap it. 😂
It wasn’t the business owners fault stupid.
Inflation is out of control. You could have a degree, work full time and still starve to death the way things are going.
Social controlled systems want exactly that.
That sort of behavior does not add up. Closing without any warning is not cool. What if the owner was just using the new law as an excuse to ditch the business?
When you vote for policies that are selfish and you get hit with reality. I don’t feel one bit sorry for them.
What makes you insist that they even voted !?... Lol you are a BOZO !
How could they not think this would happen? I mean damn $20/hour is crazy for fast food workers! These are entry level jobs....Gavin Newsom is only paying his restaurant ppl $16 now...Cali is TOXIC
Thinking is the key part why they didn't expect this
Now we have to eat quality because garbage has become unaffordable . Thank-You for clearing this up.
You get what you voted and rooted for.
I’m so sorry, government shouldn’t make business decisions for businesses.
Yeah it's funny how you don't mind that same government making OTHER decisions for people. You're a hyprocrite, and that's even worse than a liar.
It’s primarily for big corpos not small local places
@@orangeinferno Primarily? Stop the cap
@@AverageJoe-12 it is man. Literally that’s the purpose for it. Any big chain with 60+ locations is subject to it. Small chains don’t apply. Mom and Pops don’t apply. They do not need to pay the 20 dollar rate.
That is not “cap” that’s what is stated in the document
That business knew WAY ahead of time that they'd need to close. They know their expenses. It was only a surprise to the workers.
And we've just proven that the true minimum wage is $0
What
If you can't pay human employees a life sustaining rate of pay then your business is not sustainable.
No warning? Were they not aware of the hike in the minimum wage? They had a warning, they just didn't know how to read the tea leaves.
Weird, its like making a law that makes it too expensive for business will put a place out of business
This is for things like big corporations or chains with more than 60 locations. Mom and Pop shops are not subject to this law.
Relax
@@orangeinferno
Don’t bring up reality,
They won’t acknowledge it
@@orangeinferno it drives mom and pop shops out of business because they can't afford to pay people the same as the big businesses so they lose employees and can't stay in business. Think about it from an employee perspective would you rather work at the place that pays less or the place that pays more? Also it makes the prices in general go up which meand that they either have to make more money at said mom and pop to afford the same quality of life or they have to leave because they can't afford to live there anymore.
@@orangeinferno also I am relaxed I don't live in California. Just pointing out the obvious.
@@Rmc263 honestly it’s a balancing act between pay and work ethic. Most mom and pop places are very nice and chill and overall nice where im at. Gives you a sense of community. Big company may pay more, but I know they’ll treat you like shit.
Bullllll so many restaurants raised the costs only Penny’s and are fine. You closed the store mere weeks later? You were already losing and the comments here are by idiots.
What did people think was going to happen??? A lot of franchises are mom and pop owned and the families aren’t getting rich, they’re getting by like most of us…
Your notice was them talking about passing the bill which you should have been smart enough to determine small businesses cant afford....
All this because they just bumped up min wage for fast food workers too $20
Yep. No ones going to pay $20 for a happy Meal.
It’s not the big bad business. It’s the big bad government. They want to control all of your life.
The fuggin kiosks at McDs wasnt a big enough clue. Hard to feel sorry when people keep voting for this.
I tried to explain this to my teenagers. Sometimes you just have to see it
This is how Newsom wants his California
With this logic if we put the minimum wage down to $1 an hour everyone would be employed so we should just do that...
Oh my, this is basic economics. Minimum wage is a price floor. If the equilibrium is above it does nothing. If below you have a surplus which in labor is unemployment. Have no minimum wage and those that provide $20/hr value will get paid that. If they provide $1/he of value, that's what they will be paid. Price floor it and get nothing.
It is actually racist as blacks tend to be unskilled labor due to the failed department of Ed, a Dem program. Illegal immigration also prevents black market under the table bypassing these effects. All Dem policies, almost like they are still the party of Jim Crow gun control and eugenics abortion. Yikes.
@@AverageJoe-12 show me a study where reducing the minimum wage significantly decreased unemployment
If you can't afford to pay your employees a livable wage, shutting down should be an option if you can't afford operational expenses.
Whats a livable wage? How mich per hour and why? Does it change by where you live? Do you get more if you pop put more kids? Do you need Nikes and Ipones to live? You people always bring it up but you people can never answer. And none of those people working there before the wage went up stopped living because of their wage.
@@MelGibson69142 I'll answer your questions. It does change on where you live depending on city or rural area, or even state. More babies? There is a Bipartisan bill in the federal government to increase child tax credit. Do you need sneakers or iPhone? Many people have limited disposable income so who are we to tell them what they can and can't buy with their money. If they choose an iPhone, something must suffer, say they can't go to a restaurant this month.
@Cerulean0987 you didn't even come remotely close to answering the question. How much is a livable wage? And you think 2 people working the exact same job in the exact same place should make different amounts if one lives in the city and the other in a rural area? How much difference? And a tax credit isn't a wage, so is it the same amount for someone to "live" with no kids and than it is with someone that has 6 kids? And if it is different amounts should someone make more simply because they popped out a bunch of kids? So again I'll wait for an answer you can't give or justify, how much is a livable wage, and how did you come up with that number? What is needed to "live"?
@@MelGibson69142 your response is too long to address by poking a finger at a phone keyboard. Consolidate and summarize your questions and we can tackle them one at a time.
@@Cerulean0987 again another weak pathetic deflection, when you still haven't gave a dollar amount to a livable wage, and why. Typical of you people, to lazy to read to lazy to work.
The small mom and pop shops work on small profit margins.
$5 an hour more in pay rate, is $100 a week at 20 hours a part timer
Times 10-15 employees is $1,000 - $1,500. Times 52 is $52,000- $78,000 in extra costs a year.
There goes his profit.
The warning should have been when they announced 20$/hr minimum wage.
Call your State Senator and Assembly Person. Ask if this wage deal was a contract made BEHIND closed doors and allowed Fast Food restaurants w/bakeries to be exempt? Worse, the deal had a NDA and according to reports/interviews it was WITHOUT the Legislatures knowledge.
If businesses can't survive on a $20/hr minimum wage. The states need to lower the cost of living. The cost of living keeps going up more than the minimum wage. The minimum wage is supposed to be the minimum wage to survive on your own. Now people who recieve minimum wage could be considered poverty levels. The U.S. is ridiculous.
I wonder just how many of those laid off workers were screaming support for the $20/hour minimum wage???
Newsom should get minimum wage. Although he's really not worth it.
One example of a poorly run business does not mean a minimum wage increase was to blame 😮
How they notified the employees, tell you everything you need to know about the owners. They used the employees all the way until they locked the doors.
God bless all the employees and the owners, times are tough. It couldn’t have been an easy decision ❤
Sure it was easy. Are you going to pay 25 bucks for a cheeseburger and fry?
@@Michael-du9uf No and that is not the point i was making. Having to close down the business that put food on your family’s table due to ridiculous inflation and mandates is not easy. Can you think critically rather than stating something obvious?
You are right. I'm human too. Hope owners and employees found gainful income 🙏
@@gh0ulgirl05 Oh, I forgot. Business are charities and exist purely for jobs and not to provide a service to the public. I can tell you've never worked a job beyond entry level but expect CEO pay.
It was but people got greedy 😂
You want more money find a better paying job instead of running small businesses out of town
Not surprised our forefathers made the biggest mistake years and years ago to allow the government to handle so many things in our lives that today it would be nearly impossible to have a new structure!
a 10 days notice is a joke when you have dishonest employer 😮😮😮
This is terrible! Minimum wage needs to be raised to $40/hour. That will solve the problem.
$40/hour is still too low.
@@johnsmith1953x youre too stupid to know hes kidding.
At least $50/hour come on guys!
Ya know, if all the breaks and subsedies the big businesses get went to small businesses instead, we COULD have fair wages for everyone.
😂😂😂
Keep voting those Dems in
"SEIU, allies say $20 fast food wage should have minimal impact on employment"
Looks like there maybe a problem with their understanding of what a minimal impact was.
Big shock
Should raise minimum wage higher up, that will fix all problems.......
Your warning was that bill got passed that was the dumbest thing these jobs were never meant to be careers or jobs that were meant to support families never
The day they passed the 20.00 per hour, is the day they should have been looking for a new job.
They've had plenty of warning. They new this was coming. And they voted for it.
It happens. Lost 2 jobs this way. First was a mom n pop joint. The second was a national chain that's still around. It is a pain, but you'll bounce back.
That’s called “I’d rather go retire than go broke”
If i understand... small employers and fast food are not involved in the increase
Yet the same people that voted for this will see this and say, “well just increase each item price by 5 cents and problem solved!”
How do you expect people to live on less than $20 hr? Car, rent, insurance, food, gas.
The circle of life should be playing here. If you go walk into a 4 lane highway in the dark. What do you suppose will happen?
As a small business owner my self, you have to make sacrifices if you want to have your business survive. If that means you take a pay cut to ensure you have money to pay for your costs to operate you do it. If you cant afford to pay your employees a livable wage and you have one then your not doing it right. Costs to do business are the first thing you should always know and they constantly change based on many factors. If you don''t want to raise prices to make sure you make enough then your business won't survive. Simple as that.
Tell me, you know nothing about owning a business without telling me, you know nothing about owning a business. The owner of this business not only has to endure a wage height, but now Social Security for them is going to go up, as well as all of the other taxes they have to pay and insurance they have to keep on their employees just in case they get hurt on the job. It isn’t just wages that go up, everything goes up. It trickles down. You have no idea how the business world works when you make comments like that. Everybody thinks they deserve a living wage, no, you don’t. No one deserves a living wage, you have to earn it. And you all think that you could just step into a business and automatically climb up the ladder day one and make $20 an hour is ridiculous. You all want all the money but none of the work that goes along with it. It’s patheticand insinuate that the business should take a pay cut to pay his employees? That’s not why the business owner is in business. He is in business to pay his employees, but he’s mainly in business to make money. If he’s not going to make money, what the fuck is the the point in him being in business in the first place? You all want to villainize the store owner and not the policies and regulations that the government is sitting in place that forced the store owner to close the doors. Get educated kid, your ignorance is showing.
While understandable that the boss didn't want to ruin people's holiday. You SHOULD be a big boy and tell your employees the truth when you see it coming.
It depends on when he noticed he could no longer keep his business open but the second he did the math and noticed as a boss and a compassionate person he should've sent a text like "Look team this has been a great journey and all that jazz. But simply put due to new legislation mandating $20 minimum wage I cannot keep this business open we will be closing on this date I will serve as a reference if you want to put me down as one. Thank you for your hard work."
The business owner was a coward, not giving some type of notice to the employees. I feel so bad for them.
This is basic high school economics. By the time you factor in how much initial overhead will drastically increase,this is more than most mom and pop stores can afford. It's either charge customers more to make up the difference or close shop. Sadly it mostly the latter.
You got exactly what you voted for.
You voted for that! (Newsom) Now sit back and deal with the consequences.
I didnt even know Foster Freeze existed anymore. they closed 30 years ago where i grew up.
Another swift move by those geniuses in the State House. They will never acknowledge that their laws closed down businesses and therefore lost jobs and revenue. But they will continue to smile before the cameras and proudly tell everyone about the increase in wages that they got everyone.
The state should fund small business with some grants for people that have been there for more than 7 years with less than 500% median house holds and all that
Lol, 20 bucks an hour. They voted fpr this bs. Let them have their vote.
And it begins 😮
It began long ago... and we all know who started it.
Caught off guard? Everyone else in the world saw it coming
Please please can we now fence off California now??
Boo Boo on Gavin Newsom for more job losses and business closures for this ridiculous twenty dollars an hour raise
hee is a slick snake
One: Owner was a selfish scumbag, Two: Raising pay by 20 bucks is only a good thing? Why is this bad?
@@orangeinferno because if you increase the minimum wage it costs jobs and businesses to shutter due to higher costs and also the prices for the customers increase that causes less customers didn’t you take economics in school it’s a huge ripple effect and since Commiefornia has the highest unemployment rate in the nation already due to crappy policies pushed by the Demo Rat socialist party in our state capital and an idiot governor
@@orangeinferno Selfish? For losing money? You sound like the selfish one. There are only trade offs, minimum wage is a price floor which does nothing if equilibrium is above it does nothing. If below, it creates a surplus of labor also known as unemployment. Basic economics.
@@AverageJoe-12 the dude had time to prep for this. Instead he shuts down.
Im not gonna pretend I know a lot about the economy but this isn’t a permanent fix. It’s a bandage. A necessary one.
People need jobs and pay yes, but people are also people. We want fair compensation for our time, and it should pay us enough for basic survival.
Again, owner had tons of time to prep for this act, and could have let his employees know “hey we can’t afford this we gotta shut down” but no, he didn’t do that. He took the cash and left.
Not a huge loss who cares get a real job
As long costs for EVERYTHING continue to rise, wages have to increase.
You people are so mercifully free from all the ravages of intelligence keep voting the way you vote success I'm sure we'll never come to you
i'm trying to figure which is dumber. The people leaving comments... or my armpit hair.
Good!! These greedy owners would rather get out than pay workers a livable wage!! Sick!!!
Greedy... Telling us you're ignorant of business for profit. If a "livable wage" is what those employees wanted then it's their responsibility finding and qualifying for such. They agreed to whatever pay when they were hired. The business didn't hold them at gunpoint to work.
@wilsonk1464 blah blah!! I will worry about working people, you worry about greedy fat cats that use hard working people!!
Im curious about the prices for college now, the education system is already so ridiculously high and this is surely going to affect it more....
Won't be the last...
Newsom’s donors own big retailers and businesses, they want this to happen and aren’t hiding it anymore
This increase is going to decimate small businesses.
Add $1 to the ice cream and be done with it. Owner just wanted to make a point
Yeah buddy, it’s that simple…idiot
how dumb are you? passing down the cost to the customer can backfire on you, people hate seeing price increases and will try and save money by either not going or going somewhere else, its not an easy decision to raise a price.
Aint nobody buying that ice cream then.
Not always that easy.
Let's assume they went from $15 to $20/hr, so $5/hr per employee, per hour increase. No idea what their staffing is, but most fast food I interact with run with 4 at any given time, minimum.
Add in 6.2% SSI, 1.8% Medicare, 1.1% state disability (Cali), and 3.8% UI - all of these paid by the employer and don't appear on your paycheck - and the total increased cost per employee per hour is $5.65 per hour, or $22.58 for four employees.
So for $1 extra per ice cream, they need to sell a minimum of 23 an hour to break even, only considering this cost increase. That's not likely unless the place is stupid busy. And if it is stupid busy, that's more employees you need, which raises the cost. Now this is over-simplifying it a bit because there's more menu items you can spread it out on, but if you raise each customer's total bill by 25% as a result of this, people are going to stop buying, especially families.
Don't blame business, y'all voted to raise that despite many folks telling you this was gonna happen. If they don't close the price of their product is going to skyrocket and no one will be able to afford it and then what happens with 0 customers. Media needs to report correctly.
It's ice cream, not steak. What do you expect from a small business?
Without small businesses, only the rich get richer. 💯 😮
What did these people think was going to happen with $20 for fast food an hour they’re going to close welcome to California
That is a perfect example of fu(k around and find out.
This is what happens when you force businesses to pay more for ENTRY-LEVEL jobs.
Especially when it’s a mom and Pop operation.
Thank Gavin Newsom for this.
The owner just won't accept less profit so they quit while they are ahead.
Welcome to California can’t believe I ever moved back
You guys can't tell that they're mad because they were laid off Suddenly. They had no notice. I would be mad too . The next job they get they will get paid correctly. Hopefully we all do. If we work 40 hours we should be able to pay for rent and utilities.