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This may have been covered under passion or discipline, or believing in yourself, I think resilience/persistence is important. My goal is to like my own photos more, and share them, I’m not a professional but photography is an important part of the way I express myself. By really looking at artists (photographers, painters, musicians, poets) I admire, I realized how prolific they are, and that I really do need to produce an enormous volume of work to get better, both technically, and to make images people connect with. I’ve found that printing and sharing photos with friends is way more satisfying and impactful than social media, and having a personal website is also really worthwhile. Great video as always, thank you! 📸
I’ve had a camera since 1965 and have shot many pro shoots, have taught many people and love photography. Everytime I get talked into a job (I don’t need the $$) it feels like a job and I don’t enjoy it. On the other hand I don’t like shooting for free as it hurts working photographers. I have started shooting birds and I’m hooked!
I'm with you. I treat everything I do for others as a personal project (also not looking to make money). I take what is offered and usually buy something, supplies etc.
My story: I started in the film days as a news photographer. I was able to turn my hobby of photography into a career as a High School Photography teacher for 36 years. Gary from Michigan 🚂
Your comment about the Brownie camera hit home as I started out when a family friend gave me my first camera at the age of 8. I didn't get real serious about photography, though, until 50 years later. Little did I know that one year after I bought my first DSLR (Canon T3i) in 2014, that an image that I shot has generated over $8,000 in print sales and continues to be my best-selling image! I agree that a photographer has to have that passion, patience and discipline.
Once again I find myself utilizing your UA-cam to help get beyond just considering getting back into photography. I put photography on the back burner in the late 80s. I’ve only recently used photography for function, but occasionally re-discover how excited I can get over just a simple composition. I’m a Kodachrome has been who had a popular exhibit called “Scum of the Earth” (shots of beautifully presented pond scum). I could have used a drone back then! Now retired, I have more time and resources to devote to all things and perhaps I can make magic happen one more time. Thanks Chelsea and Tony!
I'd add one more: Consistency. Continuous improvement, unnoticeable on day-to-day scale, that over 1 000 000 pictures adds up to the journey from novice to master.
Thank you for the reminder to put myself out there as part of the story. I've been doing it more lately and have been feeling a little uncomfortable about it. This pep talk definitely helps.
Don't be surprised at how man young people are watching your channel. I think it is great that teens are getting into photography, even film, and putting out great works. I am enjoying watching the channels of those in their teens and twenties (I am in my 70s) they are showing the passion and exploration that photographers have. I have learned from them on doing digital work, my weakness. I think one important thing is to shot, all the time, every where and any time of day or night. Digital is cheap. Experiment. Enjoy the art form.
Hey Chelsea, Just got done watching this video I guess I have low self-esteem I'm from a film camera background. Started watching my dad in the darkroom develop 9photos. My job was loading the 4x5 film into the holders. Then mom gave me her brownie to take photos, then dad said let us take black n white and develop them. Then I got the bug I was around 13 I can't remember exactly. Then dad let me use his 4x5 press camera then think I was in 9th or 10th grade. Mom Dad bought me a 35mm Fujica ST-801, Oh my loved my new camera everyone in the neighborhood hid from me. I was the neighborhood guy with the camera. I got involved with the High school Newspaper. I had so much fun doing my thing in the darkroom running around the school with my camera. On my first newspaper day, my photos won from all of northeast Ohio division. 3 sets of my photos won best feature photo. They lost my photos so I don't know what photos won I submitted about 25 photos. Now from the department store in Cleveland. Called Scholastic arts 2 of my 3 photos won a prize one was honorable mention. One photo went to NY I won a gold Key. My slide got damaged during the showing. Then the mall that I worked at had an art showing I had two of my favorite photos mounted they were stolen. The only photos there I guess that should have been a clue. My first job was selling cameras, calculators I enjoyed my job so much I sold more cameras than anyone in the company. I loved my job so much the best perk was I was able to buy camera equipment at cost. That is how I fell in love with Canon cameras lenses etc. Don't Laugh I'm using a Canon D300 8 MP, it's about 18 years old I think, I need a new camera. Covid hit so now I'm waiting on their new cameras, I love the R5 it's a bit pricy for me, I'm retired now watch I will end up with the R5. I like Wildlife and Bird photography. One more thing about me, I rollerskate a pro approached me to take lessons. I spend a fortune on skates wheels, In two years my first competition I was sick I came in 10 out of 32. I kept on trying really hard there was a completion local I entered was for the state of Ohio, I can in 3rd place. two weeks later I fell fractured my arm in 5 places. Forgot one thing on Newspaper day I got expelled from the photography class for correcting the professor. The discussion was bounce photography with a manual flash. His math was all wrong mine was correct. I was told I was not welcome in his class. that is me if it's not correct I will correct you. (smile) sorry for writing a book.
Great video and also Peter McKinnon also started with his sister giving him a small point and shot camera for his birthday which at first he would rather have gotten a video game or something but that’s where it started.
In almost every self-employed industry you have to be great at both hard skills and soft skills to be successful. You can be an amazing photographer, carpenter, tiler, baker,... but still not be successful if you don't have the soft skills to back it up. You have to be a great businessman / woman as well besides owning your craft. Analyse your market, see the potential of resources and marketing, develop yourself as a salesperson, the list goes on... It sure ain't easy to be jack of all traits but you'll notice many successful people you look up to are one. And they usually work very hard to get there.
Thank you. This was food for anyone that wants to be better or trying to take it to the next level in life. You went way beyond photography. So I myself appreciate you guys. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
As a viewer, vertical format drives me up the wall. I have a hard time believing that people are "adapting" their videos into vertical format because that's what the *viewers* want. It's probably a coincidence of tiktok becoming popular and just happens to give their users no choice but to use it vertically. UA-cam should give shorts a horizontal option in my opinion. Disclaimer: Yes, I am a "boomer" (aka Millennial) who refuses to use tiktok.
I used to think like you. The mere thought of vertical videos drove me insane. The thing is, formats change and evolve, and one’s personal notions of what a format should be can hinder one’s growth. There’s an Army saying that goes like this: Adapt and Overcome. I try to apply this concept to everything I do.
@@AbdonPhirathon I understand what you're saying, especially in regards to content creators. But Tony assuming the viewer prospective when they're not given a choice is illogical to me. If viewers are migrating to tiktok, is it really the vertical aspect specifically that attracts them? Or is it the short form? Or something else...No one knows (including me) because platforms are just copying each other...
You don’t have to be discontent due to ambition: you could just love being creative which could require a lot of practice to actualize the creativity. But yeah, some days are drudgery.
I think ambition is the linchpin of all the traits you mentioned. Try and name a hyper successful captain of industry, film, Wall Street, the news media, photography, scientific research, etc., that wasn't ambitious. Talent, vision, drive to improve your skills, they are super important as well. With regards to ambition, I mean the drive to push yourself for notoriety, the drive to climb the corporate ladder, the drive to achiever higher status or more responsibility. Perfectionists, when not taken to extremes have a drive to always improve their work, but the ambition to use that perfectionism to achiever more notoriety, more fame, more success in life might not translate. What if you simply are always trying to do better, not for anyone else's approval but simply because you know you can make it better, do better the next time? Some people want to live an anonymous life, so being "successful" in terms of notoriety and acknowledgement from their peers in whatever profession, might not drive them at all. If you're trying to sell your work, you need that desire for acknowledgement from strangers, that desire for popularity, to be able to sell your work, or even to succeed at job interviews, getting new clients, getting more work, charging more for your work over time. Those that don't care about anyone's opinion and simply try and achieve excellence for its own reward, knowing that this moment, you achieved something amazing, then trying to top yourself... perhaps that's enough? However, that kind of person might not be a commercial or professional success.
Just getting into photography,always had cameras in the past taking the odd photo more interested now wish I'd got into it years ago,but better late than never determined to give it my best shot and advance.😁
Speaking of being adaptable.. i really need to make the switch to getting paying gigs. I love shooting but shooting for free isn't working for me anymore and that one is tough.. great vid Chelsea & Tony. 🤙🏻👍🏻
Really enjoyed this video (frankly: much more so than the "which camera is better" ones ;-) ). I would add one trait, namely "resilience", which is partly covered by patience and discipline. But to me it adds the aspect of going on despite getting negative feedback or not the attention one wants. For a hobbyist it is also understanding if you want to go for likes/popularity, or do things that are close to your own heart, but maybe appeal only to a minority. Of course, if one wants to make a living from photography, that is obviously not an option. Anyway: lots of food for thought; thank you for it!
I have confidence in my photography, but not enough confidence that I can turn this into a business. Cuz god knows I hate my IT day job, but no idea how to make my photography into something where I can make just as much.
I’m a great photographer but it’s not a business for me. I have never made a cent from photography nor would I ever try to, so commercial“success” is irrelevant for me. I only post my pictures in one small Facebook group. No one else sees them.
Your relationship is wonderful, your interaction with each other is what we love so much. I am not talking about perfection, rather the way we all see you that resonates with our own lives. Keep it up you two. Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. And forgive me. I am on my third glass of wine.
I've only been taking pictures somewhat seriously for a few years. One thing I notice is that so-called pro photographers seem to be confused by pretty basic things. For instance, do you know what exposure compensation does in aperture priority mode? What about manual mode? I've literally seen these things completely stump photographers who have been in the game for years and beyond.
So awesome to listen to pro-photographers go through this as I was able to reflect on myself through your comments. Thank you and have an awesome day!!!!
The reason I can't watch this video is because you're right. You can be an average photographer but if you're good at business you'll probably do well. I hate it so much. The amount of love I see some badly photoshopped or saturated photos get on instagram is so annoying. The average person can't tell the difference so they'll pick the vibrantly colored one over others.
It's funny about the Brownie. I often think of the Kodak Instamatic 104 my uncle bought me for Christmas as my first camera. It was actually just the first camera that was my own from the beginning. But a couple of years earlier, Dad gave me his old Brownie. So that was indeed my first camera. I wish I still had it as a memento.
I love the "thumbs down" I guess these people have nothing to work on! Thanks for the reminder to focus on the basics of what makes a successful photographer or for that matter a successful person!
About 3 months ago I was enjoying my morning coffee at about 5:30am and noticed a paddleboarder on the lake below. The water was glass smooth, except for the paddle boarder and the morning kaleidoscope of predawn colours was stunning. This was the 4th day in a row or so, and it was cold out and I was warm and lazy.... 3 months later and I havent seen another sunrise like it.... I should have gotten my ass out there! I only had my Sony a5100 with kit telephoto but the result would have been stunning regardless!
Talent is misunderstood by many. Talent isn't something that anyone "just has". No one is born with much talent. Talent is something that one develops. People work hard to develop and expand their talent. You can't really ask, "what's more important, talent, or hard work?", because talent and hard work go hand in hand. One requires the other. There is no talent unless one has worked hard to develop it.
Great great podcast. I’m photographing for 2yrs now and i know i’m not the next big talent. But I just love it sooooo much. I wake up with it and I go to sleep with it. I am a bussiness owner and I need to put my time in it but every day I’m searching for that bit off time where I just can grab my camera. I really love the documenting style. But I don’t think I’m there yet, first I want to shoot everything and keep on trying and growing. But when I get the time in I know that one day I will make a documenting series. And i hope I can give it depth and value not just some good shots. There is sooo much to tell in this world and we people need this to get back in touch with the basics off life cause I feel whe have become to “complicated” as humans. So my photography is not there for a while but surely for my whole life and I hope that one day I will become so good that I can make my job from it. Thx for this podcast, really enjoyed it!
You need a little sign to pop up saying, “I meant sunrise!” It’s disappointing to get up at 5 a.m. day after day expecting a sunset and one never comes. Not even patience will help.
@@chelseanorthrup8787 -If you need funny videos put me in front of the camera and turn it on 10 times. Should give you a year’s supply of a brain on vacay.
Talent only gets you started in any field then there are a host of qualities plus a bit of luck that bring success. Sadly I seem to lack almost all the above, oh well, some people have to be on the wrong side of the bell curve I guess.
Well, you seem to be smart, have some self-awareness, and must be eager to learn if you’re watching an educational video on a weekend. I think you’ve got some good traits going for you.
Hi Chelsea You don’t get up at 5 am for a sunset 😂😂 I don’t know how but I picked that line right at the end of the video….. jokes apart I loved the podcast and certainly will try to improve on these
We're Vivian Dorothy Maier and Harry Callahan successful? I think so. Did they make wild amounts of money doing their work? Not so much. Callahan found work teaching photography. Maier worked mostly as a nanny for rich people. I think it is important, especially in our culture and era, to articulate the concept that "being successful" at something is not to be conflated with pecuniary gain at the something.
Hi, nice video and good topic, but I need to mention visual artifacts as well as noisy audio in multiple resolutions (1080p60 and 720p60 checked) Is it Yours experiment on us or simple technical problem?
Thanks a lot for yet another insightful discussion. Perhaps it would have been even better with a definition of "successful photographer". For the vast majority of photographers, success will obviously be very different from the traditional measures of success that tend to be more relevant to professional photographers. For some photographers success is to be left alone and achieve pretty much nothing that the rest of the world would usually consider relevant.
We did intend to cover the definition of success. I do think it’s different for every person. But even if you aspire to just take photos and develop your abilities for yourself you would need most of these traits.
@@Allinsight97 I would love that! But perhaps this isn't really the right channel for non-obvious photography. Happy users of street view won't necessarily accept that the Google employees who took these many billions of photos are the epitome of very successful photographers :-)
ENERGY RULES THE WORLD!!! You can have all the talent and vision but if you can not establish consistent high energy for your client and business follow through it just falls apart
That stain on the background material is aligned perfectly with Chelsea's head ..... looks like she has a little antennae coming out the top of her head!
Me I love my work but never happy with it cuz I always wanna get better. People always say my work is great and I like that but I always tell them it’s not where I wanna be. I know if I ever get to that point I’ll still want more. I want people to be able to feel the pictures
The problem is not so much being successful now. It's creating photos that become iconic. And iconic pictures are thin on the ground. Even excellent pictures often fail to reach that status. Surely there must be a reason for that?
I do not want any connections with people for business. If a photographer focusses on celebrities, I do not really see him as a serious photographer, but just as somebody who wants to get famous with the help of the fame of others. Why should you want to be successful?
I would add to your list a CPA's advice to small business owners: KNOW YOUR NUMBERS! Dont think that you are above keeping a keen awareness of your revenues, and not confusing gross sales with your income, the need for keeping on top of bill collections, your costs and expenses and watching out for over spending.
I wash my car or sweep the yard because of "discontent" but I never feel discontent that my memory card needs data on it 😂 I take photos when I can escape my discontent from other things.
I think you can be content and ambitious. I am a very successful electrical engineer and I am content with my current lot in life, but I still want to be the best photographer that I can be and make my business as successful as possible.
We have the first comment and it has *S U B S T A N C E* You’re absolutely right that nepotism pushes a lot of people to the top. I would include that in our “resources” section.
As I think about these traits, don’t they apply to almost every creative and critical thinking occupation? Musician, Teacher, Entrepreneur, Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, masons, auto mechanics. Etc.
You should read the most insightful of entertaining comment on your podcast. Chosing the first one because a viewer is in a suitable Timezone when your video is released doesn’t make sense
I am concerned that Canon, Nikon, Sony (etc..) are trying to sell new innovative feature laden DSLR (mirrorless) cameras and lenses to a dwindling market. It's like anglers fishing in a lake that is evaporating and shrinking in a heatwave and half the fish have already died or developed legs and walked onto dry land.
Hi Chelsea and Tony, How do you know if you have any talent? I can see my pictures that are improving with courses step by step very slowly, but how can you be sure that you have any talent to do this. Me personally I just do it for fun.
The two I think that are the most important are talent and personality. Talent is a given, and is still very important, but I think PERSONALITY is also important. If your known as being an @$$hole by the community (fellow photographers and models or clients) then this will hurt you more and at that point, talent will mean less to them simply because while you may be a good photographer (from a skill standpoint) you may be a PITA to work with, and they either find someone else whose personality is more welcoming. I know a few people in my photography groups who are very talented, but also assholes at the same time, clocky and flat out rude I've heard models/talent talk about how they won't work with some photographers simply because of how they interact with people (not necesasrily them, but others as well). So personality and talent are important and I would say in some respects are "equal" qualities that someone should possess that I think people forget. I think some of these "cocky" photographers think that people will work with them because they're so good (talent-wise) and that's not really the case many times.
I am a born again christian. I am the only family member that didnt end up in the ministry. I went from architecture to photography for my career. I had no support outside of my wife. My work still gets ignored from family except when they want family portraits of cheep wedding photography.
in the beginning i couldn't talk to women. so bad my wife asked me out on our first 2 dates. i had to learn to talk to models through UA-cam. I found a fix and i use that learned fix for every shoot.
Talent Isn't Enough (traits of successful photographers)... ive been using dumb luck, coupled with ill-planning, and thats the reason im the successful ten thousandaire i am today. kidding, this was great message for anyone perusing excellence in their life. remember kids, your not too old too start now! as a side note, im still looking for that 1st camera. not looking for a get by model, instead one that has a bit more than what i need. ive watched too damn many videos on the matter and have only succeeded in confusing myself even more. heres a short list of what i want... 1. great color 2. whitest whites and blackest blacks, i guess thats called dynamic range 3. ease of use, as much as possible. would be nice but not critical 4. my goal is to shoot landscapes, architecture and close-up texture references 5. my starting budget is a thousand, or there abouts 6. would like a lens system where i dont need to sell body parts in order to afford a good lens if possible in the beginning. any help is greatly appreciated.
Talent 1: Have parents who are well connected. Talent 2: Have enough money to be able to boost your posts on social media without worrying about how much you use. Talent 3: use your parents as a megaphone to all of their rich friends who bobblehead.
@@chelseanorthrup8787 Not having help makes you work harder and eventually get better than people that have rich parents. People should always wish they were better not that things are easier.
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This may have been covered under passion or discipline, or believing in yourself, I think resilience/persistence is important. My goal is to like my own photos more, and share them, I’m not a professional but photography is an important part of the way I express myself. By really looking at artists (photographers, painters, musicians, poets) I admire, I realized how prolific they are, and that I really do need to produce an enormous volume of work to get better, both technically, and to make images people connect with. I’ve found that printing and sharing photos with friends is way more satisfying and impactful than social media, and having a personal website is also really worthwhile. Great video as always, thank you! 📸
I’ve had a camera since 1965 and have shot many pro shoots, have taught many people and love photography. Everytime I get talked into a job (I don’t need the $$) it feels like a job and I don’t enjoy it. On the other hand I don’t like shooting for free as it hurts working photographers. I have started shooting birds and I’m hooked!
I'm with you. I treat everything I do for others as a personal project (also not looking to make money). I take what is offered and usually buy something, supplies etc.
My story: I started in the film days as a news photographer. I was able to turn my hobby of photography into a career as a High School Photography teacher for 36 years. Gary from Michigan 🚂
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That shape on the background above Chelsea always drives my ocd crazy. I just want to reach through the screen and fix it!
Great topic!
We’ve named it bob the blob. Everyone hates him but he’s never hurt anyone.
@@chelseanorthrup8787 you’re so kind and inclusively minded 😂❤️
Your comment about the Brownie camera hit home as I started out when a family friend gave me my first camera at the age of 8. I didn't get real serious about photography, though, until 50 years later. Little did I know that one year after I bought my first DSLR (Canon T3i) in 2014, that an image that I shot has generated over $8,000 in print sales and continues to be my best-selling image! I agree that a photographer has to have that passion, patience and discipline.
Once again I find myself utilizing your UA-cam to help get beyond just considering getting back into photography. I put photography on the back burner in the late 80s. I’ve only recently used photography for function, but occasionally re-discover how excited I can get over just a simple composition. I’m a Kodachrome has been who had a popular exhibit called “Scum of the Earth” (shots of beautifully presented pond scum). I could have used a drone back then! Now retired, I have more time and resources to devote to all things and perhaps I can make magic happen one more time. Thanks Chelsea and Tony!
Yesss! Go for it! You have the passion, the experience, and the resources. I’m excited for you to enjoy your next chapter
I'd add one more: Consistency. Continuous improvement, unnoticeable on day-to-day scale, that over 1 000 000 pictures adds up to the journey from novice to master.
Thank you for the reminder to put myself out there as part of the story. I've been doing it more lately and have been feeling a little uncomfortable about it. This pep talk definitely helps.
Don't be surprised at how man young people are watching your channel. I think it is great that teens are getting into photography, even film, and putting out great works. I am enjoying watching the channels of those in their teens and twenties (I am in my 70s) they are showing the passion and exploration that photographers have. I have learned from them on doing digital work, my weakness. I think one important thing is to shot, all the time, every where and any time of day or night. Digital is cheap. Experiment. Enjoy the art form.
Hey Chelsea, Just got done watching this video I guess I have low self-esteem I'm from a film camera background. Started watching my dad in the darkroom develop 9photos. My job was loading the 4x5 film into the holders. Then mom gave me her brownie to take photos, then dad said let us take black n white and develop them. Then I got the bug I was around 13 I can't remember exactly. Then dad let me use his 4x5 press camera then think I was in 9th or 10th grade. Mom Dad bought me a 35mm Fujica ST-801, Oh my loved my new camera everyone in the neighborhood hid from me. I was the neighborhood guy with the camera. I got involved with the High school Newspaper. I had so much fun doing my thing in the darkroom running around the school with my camera. On my first newspaper day, my photos won from all of northeast Ohio division. 3 sets of my photos won best feature photo. They lost my photos so I don't know what photos won I submitted about 25 photos. Now from the department store in Cleveland. Called Scholastic arts 2 of my 3 photos won a prize one was honorable mention. One photo went to NY I won a gold Key. My slide got damaged during the showing. Then the mall that I worked at had an art showing I had two of my favorite photos mounted they were stolen. The only photos there I guess that should have been a clue. My first job was selling cameras, calculators I enjoyed my job so much I sold more cameras than anyone in the company. I loved my job so much the best perk was I was able to buy camera equipment at cost.
That is how I fell in love with Canon cameras lenses etc. Don't Laugh I'm using a Canon D300 8 MP, it's about 18 years old I think, I need a new camera. Covid hit so now I'm waiting on their new cameras, I love the R5 it's a bit pricy for me, I'm retired now watch I will end up with the R5. I like Wildlife and Bird photography. One more thing about me, I rollerskate a pro approached me to take lessons. I spend a fortune on skates wheels, In two years my first competition I was sick I came in 10 out of 32. I kept on trying really hard there was a completion local I entered was for the state of Ohio, I can in 3rd place. two weeks later I fell fractured my arm in 5 places. Forgot one thing on Newspaper day I got expelled from the photography class for correcting the professor. The discussion was bounce photography with a manual flash. His math was all wrong mine was correct. I was told I was not welcome in his class. that is me if it's not correct I will correct you. (smile) sorry for writing a book.
Great video and also Peter McKinnon also started with his sister giving him a small point and shot camera for his birthday which at first he would rather have gotten a video game or something but that’s where it started.
Imagine his tattoos if he was just a gamer
In almost every self-employed industry you have to be great at both hard skills and soft skills to be successful. You can be an amazing photographer, carpenter, tiler, baker,... but still not be successful if you don't have the soft skills to back it up. You have to be a great businessman / woman as well besides owning your craft. Analyse your market, see the potential of resources and marketing, develop yourself as a salesperson, the list goes on... It sure ain't easy to be jack of all traits but you'll notice many successful people you look up to are one. And they usually work very hard to get there.
Thank you. This was food for anyone that wants to be better or trying to take it to the next level in life. You went way beyond photography. So I myself appreciate you guys. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
As a viewer, vertical format drives me up the wall. I have a hard time believing that people are "adapting" their videos into vertical format because that's what the *viewers* want. It's probably a coincidence of tiktok becoming popular and just happens to give their users no choice but to use it vertically. UA-cam should give shorts a horizontal option in my opinion.
Disclaimer: Yes, I am a "boomer" (aka Millennial) who refuses to use tiktok.
I used to think like you. The mere thought of vertical videos drove me insane. The thing is, formats change and evolve, and one’s personal notions of what a format should be can hinder one’s growth.
There’s an Army saying that goes like this: Adapt and Overcome. I try to apply this concept to everything I do.
@@AbdonPhirathon I understand what you're saying, especially in regards to content creators. But Tony assuming the viewer prospective when they're not given a choice is illogical to me.
If viewers are migrating to tiktok, is it really the vertical aspect specifically that attracts them? Or is it the short form? Or something else...No one knows (including me) because platforms are just copying each other...
You don’t have to be discontent due to ambition: you could just love being creative which could require a lot of practice to actualize the creativity. But yeah, some days are drudgery.
I think ambition is the linchpin of all the traits you mentioned. Try and name a hyper successful captain of industry, film, Wall Street, the news media, photography, scientific research, etc., that wasn't ambitious. Talent, vision, drive to improve your skills, they are super important as well. With regards to ambition, I mean the drive to push yourself for notoriety, the drive to climb the corporate ladder, the drive to achiever higher status or more responsibility. Perfectionists, when not taken to extremes have a drive to always improve their work, but the ambition to use that perfectionism to achiever more notoriety, more fame, more success in life might not translate. What if you simply are always trying to do better, not for anyone else's approval but simply because you know you can make it better, do better the next time? Some people want to live an anonymous life, so being "successful" in terms of notoriety and acknowledgement from their peers in whatever profession, might not drive them at all. If you're trying to sell your work, you need that desire for acknowledgement from strangers, that desire for popularity, to be able to sell your work, or even to succeed at job interviews, getting new clients, getting more work, charging more for your work over time. Those that don't care about anyone's opinion and simply try and achieve excellence for its own reward, knowing that this moment, you achieved something amazing, then trying to top yourself... perhaps that's enough? However, that kind of person might not be a commercial or professional success.
Just getting into photography,always had cameras in the past taking the odd photo more interested now wish I'd got into it years ago,but better late than never determined to give it my best shot and advance.😁
One trait is to know that gear isn’t the most important aspect of photography. So please treat your GAS!
Speaking of being adaptable.. i really need to make the switch to getting paying gigs. I love shooting but shooting for free isn't working for me anymore and that one is tough.. great vid Chelsea & Tony. 🤙🏻👍🏻
Yes! You deserve to be compensated for your time!
Really enjoyed this video (frankly: much more so than the "which camera is better" ones ;-) ). I would add one trait, namely "resilience", which is partly covered by patience and discipline. But to me it adds the aspect of going on despite getting negative feedback or not the attention one wants. For a hobbyist it is also understanding if you want to go for likes/popularity, or do things that are close to your own heart, but maybe appeal only to a minority. Of course, if one wants to make a living from photography, that is obviously not an option. Anyway: lots of food for thought; thank you for it!
That's Def me, have the passion but no confidence in my work.
You just need enough confidence to know you’re capable of improving and failure is temporary. Keep at it!
@@chelseanorthrup8787 nice words appreciate that.
I have confidence in my photography, but not enough confidence that I can turn this into a business. Cuz god knows I hate my IT day job, but no idea how to make my photography into something where I can make just as much.
Good topic. Entertaining and informative as usual. Keep up the good work guys.
I’m a great photographer but it’s not a business for me. I have never made a cent from photography nor would I ever try to, so commercial“success” is irrelevant for me. I only post my pictures in one small Facebook group. No one else sees them.
Your relationship is wonderful, your interaction with each other is what we love so much. I am not talking about perfection, rather the way we all see you that resonates with our own lives. Keep it up you two. Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. And forgive me. I am on my third glass of wine.
And off I go for my forth
I've only been taking pictures somewhat seriously for a few years. One thing I notice is that so-called pro photographers seem to be confused by pretty basic things. For instance, do you know what exposure compensation does in aperture priority mode? What about manual mode? I've literally seen these things completely stump photographers who have been in the game for years and beyond.
So awesome to listen to pro-photographers go through this as I was able to reflect on myself through your comments. Thank you and have an awesome day!!!!
The reason I can't watch this video is because you're right. You can be an average photographer but if you're good at business you'll probably do well. I hate it so much. The amount of love I see some badly photoshopped or saturated photos get on instagram is so annoying. The average person can't tell the difference so they'll pick the vibrantly colored one over others.
well done guys. I think all of this applies to anyone, no matter what you choose to do in life. Love the self-awareness part (military brat here too)
I think that a great photographer is one who loves what they do and have a passion for it and have confidence I their work and take advice from others
It's funny about the Brownie. I often think of the Kodak Instamatic 104 my uncle bought me for Christmas as my first camera. It was actually just the first camera that was my own from the beginning. But a couple of years earlier, Dad gave me his old Brownie. So that was indeed my first camera. I wish I still had it as a memento.
I love the "thumbs down" I guess these people have nothing to work on! Thanks for the reminder to focus on the basics of what makes a successful photographer or for that matter a successful person!
Adaptability and confidence I think are the ones however, one cannot discount being opportunistic.
About 3 months ago I was enjoying my morning coffee at about 5:30am and noticed a paddleboarder on the lake below. The water was glass smooth, except for the paddle boarder and the morning kaleidoscope of predawn colours was stunning. This was the 4th day in a row or so, and it was cold out and I was warm and lazy.... 3 months later and I havent seen another sunrise like it.... I should have gotten my ass out there!
I only had my Sony a5100 with kit telephoto but the result would have been stunning regardless!
All of these points are appropriate and relevant for success in any endeavor, not just photography.
So many ideas here that simply help with being a good human being. Thanks for a great video!
Talent is misunderstood by many. Talent isn't something that anyone "just has". No one is born with much talent. Talent is something that one develops. People work hard to develop and expand their talent. You can't really ask, "what's more important, talent, or hard work?", because talent and hard work go hand in hand. One requires the other. There is no talent unless one has worked hard to develop it.
Great great podcast. I’m photographing for 2yrs now and i know i’m not the next big talent. But I just love it sooooo much. I wake up with it and I go to sleep with it. I am a bussiness owner and I need to put my time in it but every day I’m searching for that bit off time where I just can grab my camera. I really love the documenting style. But I don’t think I’m there yet, first I want to shoot everything and keep on trying and growing. But when I get the time in I know that one day I will make a documenting series. And i hope I can give it depth and value not just some good shots. There is sooo much to tell in this world and we people need this to get back in touch with the basics off life cause I feel whe have become to “complicated” as humans. So my photography is not there for a while but surely for my whole life and I hope that one day I will become so good that I can make my job from it. Thx for this podcast, really enjoyed it!
I love you guys! you have helped me out so much!
Some very valid points here. This can be about almost anything you are thinking of doing. Well done!
I love landscape - flowers and Water Drop - what’s the best way to market them
I don’t think I have access to interesting or valuable content opportunities , but I’m passionate about taking photos.
I bet you do, its all around us. Matching it with the right/interested audience is part of this process.
Great topic. Great interaction. Well done.
Thank you 🙏🏽
This was a much needed video ! You guys are awesome!
You need a little sign to pop up saying, “I meant sunrise!” It’s disappointing to get up at 5 a.m. day after day expecting a sunset and one never comes. Not even patience will help.
Did I say I wake up early for sunsets? 🤦🏽♀️ the cameras turn on and the brain takes a vacation
@@chelseanorthrup8787 -If you need funny videos put me in front of the camera and turn it on 10 times. Should give you a year’s supply of a brain on vacay.
Talent only gets you started in any field then there are a host of qualities plus a bit of luck that bring success. Sadly I seem to lack almost all the above, oh well, some people have to be on the wrong side of the bell curve I guess.
Well, you seem to be smart, have some self-awareness, and must be eager to learn if you’re watching an educational video on a weekend.
I think you’ve got some good traits going for you.
@@chelseanorthrup8787 I just seem to have chronic bad luck but I'm 60 so I'm used to it by now :)
Hi Chelsea
You don’t get up at 5 am for a sunset 😂😂
I don’t know how but I picked that line right at the end of the video….. jokes apart I loved the podcast and certainly will try to improve on these
Probably the best video you guys have done. Brilliant.
We're Vivian Dorothy Maier and Harry Callahan successful? I think so. Did they make wild amounts of money doing their work? Not so much. Callahan found work teaching photography. Maier worked mostly as a nanny for rich people. I think it is important, especially in our culture and era, to articulate the concept that "being successful" at something is not to be conflated with pecuniary gain at the something.
Hi, nice video and good topic, but I need to mention visual artifacts as well as noisy audio in multiple resolutions (1080p60 and 720p60 checked) Is it Yours experiment on us or simple technical problem?
Thanks a lot for yet another insightful discussion. Perhaps it would have been even better with a definition of "successful photographer". For the vast majority of photographers, success will obviously be very different from the traditional measures of success that tend to be more relevant to professional photographers. For some photographers success is to be left alone and achieve pretty much nothing that the rest of the world would usually consider relevant.
We did intend to cover the definition of success. I do think it’s different for every person. But even if you aspire to just take photos and develop your abilities for yourself you would need most of these traits.
Maybe a topic for the next one? :)
@@Allinsight97 I would love that! But perhaps this isn't really the right channel for non-obvious photography. Happy users of street view won't necessarily accept that the Google employees who took these many billions of photos are the epitome of very successful photographers :-)
For a second there it looked like it was heading down a couple's counseling route - "what do you mean you're not content?!" 😂
With the cameras out these days, many in the industry have no actual talent other than Photoshop...
You guys are great. Thank you.
ENERGY RULES THE WORLD!!! You can have all the talent and vision but if you can not establish consistent high energy for your client and business follow through it just falls apart
Thank you guys for the encouragement .
That stain on the background material is aligned perfectly with Chelsea's head ..... looks like she has a little antennae coming out the top of her head!
This is gold
I have ambition but I wandavision.
Wisdom for all those who wish to pursue mastery of any craft. 👍👍
This was a great video! I lack work-life balance. Ha, I'm trash but I'm happy!
Me I love my work but never happy with it cuz I always wanna get better. People always say my work is great and I like that but I always tell them it’s not where I wanna be. I know if I ever get to that point I’ll still want more. I want people to be able to feel the pictures
A simple Japanese word called KAIZEN= continuous improvement.
The problem is not so much being successful now. It's creating photos that become iconic. And iconic pictures are thin on the ground. Even excellent pictures often fail to reach that status. Surely there must be a reason for that?
...Thoughts transforms into Ideas...Ideas become Actions....Actions create Habits....Habits make The Character....and The Character defines The Life!
Great podcast
What is a "Vertical Format" ?
I'm interested in going into photo journalism. Thoughts?
The new studio is pretty
I do not want any connections with people for business. If a photographer focusses on celebrities, I do not really see him as a serious photographer, but just as somebody who wants to get famous with the help of the fame of others.
Why should you want to be successful?
a healthy discussion.
im a colorblind Photographer.
Love you! 😉
I would add to your list a CPA's advice to small business owners: KNOW YOUR NUMBERS! Dont think that you are above keeping a keen awareness of your revenues, and not confusing gross sales with your income, the need for keeping on top of bill collections, your costs and expenses and watching out for over spending.
Bright Insights. :)
Brilliant insight! Cheers - Jade
I wash my car or sweep the yard because of "discontent" but I never feel discontent that my memory card needs data on it 😂 I take photos when I can escape my discontent from other things.
Thank u for calling it football and not soccer ⚽👏🏾
That was really good and interesting.👍💙😊
I think you can be content and ambitious. I am a very successful electrical engineer and I am content with my current lot in life, but I still want to be the best photographer that I can be and make my business as successful as possible.
❤️ - that's all.
Nepotism lives in the art world...
We have the first comment and it has *S U B S T A N C E*
You’re absolutely right that nepotism pushes a lot of people to the top. I would include that in our “resources” section.
As I think about these traits, don’t they apply to almost every creative and critical thinking occupation? Musician, Teacher, Entrepreneur, Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, masons, auto mechanics. Etc.
I'm only human, but I'm working on it.
You should read the most insightful of entertaining comment on your podcast. Chosing the first one because a viewer is in a suitable Timezone when your video is released doesn’t make sense
I am concerned that Canon, Nikon, Sony (etc..) are trying to sell new innovative feature laden DSLR (mirrorless) cameras and lenses to a dwindling market. It's like anglers fishing in a lake that is evaporating and shrinking in a heatwave and half the fish have already died or developed legs and walked onto dry land.
09:04 on point
Hi Chelsea and Tony, How do you know if you have any talent? I can see my pictures that are improving with courses step by step very slowly, but how can you be sure that you have any talent to do this. Me personally I just do it for fun.
Try entering local photo competitions, its usually free and gives you a place to start to get feedback.
@@Matt-ksr I don't think I'm good enough to try it. But thanks for that idea
Passion’s root means what you are willing to suffer for.
Now that Kai has a Tony Northrup tattoo is Tony going to get a Kai Man Wong tattoo? 🤣
Talent is probably not even a factor lol. You can just youtube "how to shoot a...." and go do it after 3-5 videos and be fine.
BMW in the garage - CHECK
surprise...........chelsea mentioned Jerry Rig............you guys follow JRE! :D
25 years Tony? Wow you're really good for a "newb"
The two I think that are the most important are talent and personality. Talent is a given, and is still very important, but I think PERSONALITY is also important. If your known as being an @$$hole by the community (fellow photographers and models or clients) then this will hurt you more and at that point, talent will mean less to them simply because while you may be a good photographer (from a skill standpoint) you may be a PITA to work with, and they either find someone else whose personality is more welcoming. I know a few people in my photography groups who are very talented, but also assholes at the same time, clocky and flat out rude I've heard models/talent talk about how they won't work with some photographers simply because of how they interact with people (not necesasrily them, but others as well). So personality and talent are important and I would say in some respects are "equal" qualities that someone should possess that I think people forget. I think some of these "cocky" photographers think that people will work with them because they're so good (talent-wise) and that's not really the case many times.
I am a born again christian. I am the only family member that didnt end up in the ministry. I went from architecture to photography for my career. I had no support outside of my wife. My work still gets ignored from family except when they want family portraits of cheep wedding photography.
in the beginning i couldn't talk to women. so bad my wife asked me out on our first 2 dates. i had to learn to talk to models through UA-cam. I found a fix and i use that learned fix for every shoot.
Talent Isn't Enough (traits of successful photographers)...
ive been using dumb luck, coupled with ill-planning, and thats the reason im the successful ten thousandaire i am today.
kidding, this was great message for anyone perusing excellence in their life. remember kids, your not too old too start now!
as a side note, im still looking for that 1st camera. not looking for a get by model, instead one that has a bit more than what i need. ive watched too damn many videos on the matter and have only succeeded in confusing myself even more.
heres a short list of what i want...
1. great color
2. whitest whites and blackest blacks, i guess thats called dynamic range
3. ease of use, as much as possible. would be nice but not critical
4. my goal is to shoot landscapes, architecture and close-up texture references
5. my starting budget is a thousand, or there abouts
6. would like a lens system where i dont need to sell body parts in order to afford a good lens if possible in the beginning.
any help is greatly appreciated.
7:55 small reference of JerryrigEverything youtube
i am shy
Talent 1: Have parents who are well connected.
Talent 2: Have enough money to be able to boost your posts on social media without worrying about how much you use.
Talent 3: use your parents as a megaphone to all of their rich friends who bobblehead.
Having rich parents helps. But if you don’t have rich parents should you just give up? I don’t think so.
@@chelseanorthrup8787 Not having help makes you work harder and eventually get better than people that have rich parents. People should always wish they were better not that things are easier.