Gondor Vs Mordor! NEW EDITION Battle Report ~ Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • In this vide owe have a 500 point match of the brand new edition of the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game. We have the Minas Tirith army list lead by Denethor and Faramir fighting against the Minas Morgul army list lead by the Witch King!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 125

  • @UglyTheDuckling
    @UglyTheDuckling Місяць тому +6

    “That is Denethor dead” *immediate fire graphic*
    …well played.

  • @joeski27
    @joeski27 Місяць тому +64

    Denethor would have been fine if he hadn’t relied on Faramir

  • @francescogulisano2917
    @francescogulisano2917 Місяць тому +24

    That archer that blocked the Witch King and won in single combat against him needs a promotion

    • @darrynlee7370
      @darrynlee7370 Місяць тому +2

      He got promoted to the menu 😅

  • @gernothauser907
    @gernothauser907 11 днів тому +1

    Very entertaining battle report! Jude made some really clever moves, quite fitting for Minas Morgul.
    But each orc having Blades of the Dead.. that's just crazy.

  • @karlsonationv2
    @karlsonationv2 Місяць тому +3

    Awesome battle rep! Love how fast paced your format is, keep up the good work!

  • @Competentetyler
    @Competentetyler Місяць тому +8

    23:16 Great play right here with an adjustment for the new rules. I definitely thought the Orc Captain would wound Denethor on +4 with Blades of the Dead.
    However, Harbinger of Evil doesn’t -1 your Courage anymore. It only adds -1 to Courage Checks.
    This Minas Morgul army looks a lot different now in my mind.

    • @LorenzoDonati-kr9bx
      @LorenzoDonati-kr9bx Місяць тому

      Yea very bad

    • @morgoth435
      @morgoth435 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@LorenzoDonati-kr9bxVery Bad for ORCS to wound normal Humans on 4s instead of 5/6 and dwarves and elves on 5+? For a 6 Point warrior?

    • @lorenzodonati-vm8oq
      @lorenzodonati-vm8oq Місяць тому

      @@morgoth435 it is good , but the magic has ben weakend alot

  • @MadMalMan
    @MadMalMan Місяць тому +3

    Awesome video guys, both armies looking sick!

  • @kennethvik3823
    @kennethvik3823 Місяць тому +2

    Nice batrep, to play the Minas Tirith list you really need to include Faramir mounted with at least 4 knights. Thats where much of the power is

  • @BaneChain236
    @BaneChain236 Місяць тому +3

    Love the channel, keep up the good work Jacob!

  • @ghostofalltime4934
    @ghostofalltime4934 Місяць тому +1

    Lovely work as always and I really like the background effect with the players, looks really cool.

  • @alastairkitching6441
    @alastairkitching6441 Місяць тому +5

    This report has really convinced me of the improvement the change to Priority brings.
    I had been sceptical, assuming that it would almost always be obvious who had most to gain or lose, so in reality it was still random and player agency an illusion. There is a play in the game that shows how tactical the decision can be.
    Great work in showcasing the new rules, in the best way possible: by playing the game.

  • @thecrzyirishman
    @thecrzyirishman Місяць тому +1

    Nice battle report! Was a fun watch. Though as a Gondor fanboy I was shocked to see no Knights, Faramir on foot, and no Boromir 😂
    I'm dying to see how Faramir and Knights perform in this list

  • @MR0ASIK
    @MR0ASIK Місяць тому +1

    Hey! In the logo screen we have a white triangle in the last A. No problem obviously, but I noticed and I wanted to advise u guys!
    Thanks a lot for your content! Always very glad to see your videos :)

  • @tomhayes2035
    @tomhayes2035 Місяць тому +2

    Great battle report. It would be nice to see the army lists in the video description.

  • @Kazahad1110
    @Kazahad1110 Місяць тому +1

    Hey, I suggested this match up a while ago! Nice to see it played out.

  • @jorinevers2912
    @jorinevers2912 Місяць тому

    Love seeing the new edition being played! Keep up the good work :)

  • @fishgoatboi2589
    @fishgoatboi2589 Місяць тому +1

    The compel and heroic combat to get the banner was an excellent play

    • @captainktz
      @captainktz Місяць тому +1

      that and the last cheeky might point from the orc captain at 30:20

  • @szwecmylove
    @szwecmylove Місяць тому

    Great to see a Battle report in the new edition! And here I was thinking that Mordor had lost its mojo

  • @koen0th
    @koen0th Місяць тому

    Great work on the video and table filled with incredible armies!

  • @NießbraucherNick
    @NießbraucherNick Місяць тому +2

    Love the new Minas Tirith. Also Witchking not longer being the Go to for every role is nice.

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому

      I am a big fan of the new Witch King. Its way cooler to push him into being on the Fell Beast and not being able to match him to whatever points level you want it great

  • @mikeglasswell-gameplay
    @mikeglasswell-gameplay Місяць тому

    great format. good to see the new rules in play

  • @joshmortimer3433
    @joshmortimer3433 Місяць тому +1

    Love the Minas Morgul list

  • @sitrucsimian5450
    @sitrucsimian5450 Місяць тому

    Awesome batrep! I was rooting for the Witch King and he didn’t let me down:)

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for the comment! You chose the right side to cheer for

  • @SCMitchell
    @SCMitchell Місяць тому

    This was fun to watch. Thanks.

  • @mattl2k6
    @mattl2k6 Місяць тому

    More of this dudes, great content.

  • @reslime
    @reslime Місяць тому +6

    Minas Morgul it's a favourite to be Tier 1 in the next edition due to Blades of the Dead rule for normal Orcs

    • @metascrub285
      @metascrub285 Місяць тому

      It's gonna be a good army but probably not tier 1. Only one named hero, orcs are f3 and die to shooting. The orcs hit hard with blades but they die just as easy.

    • @reslime
      @reslime Місяць тому

      @metascrub285 great point, in your opinion which will be next top tier armies?

    • @Competentetyler
      @Competentetyler Місяць тому +3

      @@metascrub285Morannons with Shields die easy to shooting? That’s D6, and F4 against Men.
      I see this list still being pretty strong.

    • @metascrub285
      @metascrub285 Місяць тому +1

      @reslime hard to tell. I personally think last alliance or an elf army. Fight value seems way more important now. Any faction with a f7 hero facing one with no f7 or magic is gonna feel it.

    • @metascrub285
      @metascrub285 Місяць тому +1

      @Competentetyler this army I feel is gonna play more regular orcs then marranons. The gimmick of the army is you get cost efficient regular orcs

  • @metascrub285
    @metascrub285 Місяць тому +1

    Minas morgul is the army I am hyped up to play the most of the new edition

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому

      It's super cool, I can't wait to have a shot at playing with it after playing against it

  • @FetaCheese717
    @FetaCheese717 Місяць тому +1

    What’s the full breakdown of each list? This looks like a fantastic 500 point army for each!

  • @emberpowertcg7692
    @emberpowertcg7692 17 днів тому

    The fellbeast is stunning

  • @MtnGoatGaming
    @MtnGoatGaming Місяць тому +1

    You’re my hero Jude ♥️
    -J

  • @jesseg9013
    @jesseg9013 Місяць тому +1

    The fact that morannons are the same fight as fountain court guard is ridiculous, they really dropped the ball on certain profile tweaks. The rules changes overall are great though.

  • @darrynlee7370
    @darrynlee7370 Місяць тому

    Nice battle report thank you!

  • @tharnivas1
    @tharnivas1 Місяць тому +2

    Nice battle report! Thought at first that in the fight of the orc captain vs Denethor (@23min) the captain would've only needed 4s not 5s against Denethor (because of Harbinger). The same with the Faramir vs orcs fight (@29:30min) where they would''ve only needed 5s with blades of the dead. But then I double checked and harbinger only gives a -1 on courage checks so the basic courage value doesn't get the -1. Interesting change on the Harbinger rule. Makes blades of the dead definetly weaker and explains why f.e. the King of the Dead lost the Harbinger special rule.

    • @carlopulcini9585
      @carlopulcini9585 Місяць тому +2

      I think harbinger now influences courage tests, while blades of the dead is not a test.

    • @Competentetyler
      @Competentetyler Місяць тому

      @@tharnivas1 Noticed all this as well. Definitely changed my opinion of the strength of the Minas Morgul legion.
      Forced to take the WK, but his Harbinger doesn’t help much. Bummer.

    • @tharnivas1
      @tharnivas1 Місяць тому

      @@Competentetyler It is still very strong. One of the few lists where the Witch King is still good (because of 3/18/3 and free choice of other options) and the blades of the dead are still strong on 6pt orcs.
      Having spectres, the options for trolls and morannons definetly makes this list very flexible. The terror on trolls and spectres synergizes good with the Harbinger.

    • @lorenzodonati-vm8oq
      @lorenzodonati-vm8oq Місяць тому

      @@tharnivas1 but how much cost new Witch King whit fell beast?

  • @MnMStrike
    @MnMStrike Місяць тому +2

    More of these videos!!
    But you should specify the correct title of the army in the title of the video since you play Minas Morgul and not Mordor!

  • @MN_Werewolf
    @MN_Werewolf Місяць тому +3

    Specter is D6 now, so is killed on 6 with bow S3

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому

      You are totally correct, I missed that one! Thanks for pointing it out

  • @andrewobrien835
    @andrewobrien835 Місяць тому +1

    Great battle

  • @nomekopcards7376
    @nomekopcards7376 21 день тому

    Do I take it that the witch king was the only 1 attack profile? Just thinking if it was higher there should have been way more attacks with the fell beast too :)

  • @barforlifebarforlife6019
    @barforlifebarforlife6019 Місяць тому +3

    6:48 spectres in the new edition have D6 so so you would have needed a 6 to wound him

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for point that out, we missed that one

    • @barforlifebarforlife6019
      @barforlifebarforlife6019 Місяць тому

      @ConquestCreations yea not that it would have made a difference in the grand scheme , but guys really cool battle rep looking forward to more Videos!

  • @BlumenkohlBroccoli1
    @BlumenkohlBroccoli1 Місяць тому

    Beautiful armies

  • @zachariaravenheart
    @zachariaravenheart Місяць тому

    With that paint job, I got to ask. . .
    Is that the Drip King of Angmar?

  • @RuleBritannia-c1t
    @RuleBritannia-c1t Місяць тому

    What is the new stats for the witch king ❤

  • @howardeverton2847
    @howardeverton2847 Місяць тому

    Awesome game

  • @OGEETOMO
    @OGEETOMO Місяць тому

    Don't know if you have Gandalf rules but would of been interesting to see if new Gandalf vs the Witch King.

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому

      Thanks mate! I was convinced before but the late game play with the Orc captain has sealed the deal for me

  • @kylez33
    @kylez33 Місяць тому +2

    based channel

  • @RedViperOnTop
    @RedViperOnTop Місяць тому

    That was brutal

  • @hatsikmaroukian4111
    @hatsikmaroukian4111 20 днів тому

    @11:15, why ddint the banner re-roll ? Doesn't the banner's reroll apply to him as well ?

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  20 днів тому +1

      Great question, when holding a banner you receive a -1 to your duel roll. The Witch King is a higher fight value than the Warrior so would win if the duel roll was a draw. Even if the banner re-rolled into a 6 it would go down to a 5 and the Witch King would still win the combat.

  • @Alduric
    @Alduric Місяць тому

    What camera do you use to record? Looks great!

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому

      I film using a Sony A6400. Its been my first proper camera and has been good to learn with but it has issues with overheating so for that reason I couldn't really recomend it. The key thing is that we are filming with fully manual settings and have a heap of lights set up around the board

  • @geniopao579
    @geniopao579 Місяць тому +1

    Witch-King the White!

  • @ajtame
    @ajtame Місяць тому +1

    Nice, is 500 the standard?

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for the comment, 500-750 is the usual points range. 500 points is my favorite though

  • @aidannoon5874
    @aidannoon5874 Місяць тому

    Where is the Faramir model from please?

  • @KiwiOddity
    @KiwiOddity Місяць тому

    Dont have to move to contact first anymore?

  • @frostmaw8356
    @frostmaw8356 Місяць тому

    What’s the point of taking Citadel Guard or rangers anymore? The higher fight used to make them a corner stone of the army but now that’s no longer the case.

    • @muesliman100
      @muesliman100 Місяць тому +2

      Citadel guard are actually equally costed to warriors with bows but they have bodyguard and S3 bows as well as getting +1 to wound from irolas whereas the warriors just get shieldwall which doesn't do anything for archers

    • @muesliman100
      @muesliman100 Місяць тому +1

      Rangers have bows and spears which is now very rare, also they still have shoot value 3+. But you are right that it is no longer a no-brainer to take Warriors frontline and Ranger/Fountain Court/citadel guard to support but I think that's hardly a negative

  • @craig3111
    @craig3111 Місяць тому

    NO BOLT THROWER?!

  • @garethjames1597
    @garethjames1597 Місяць тому

    Is that shieldwall rule a change from last edition, didn't think it worked like that previous edition?

    • @markyuhnke7860
      @markyuhnke7860 Місяць тому +3

      Yes, you now receive the benefits of Shieldwall from their positioning at the beginning of the duel, not after they back away like previously.

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому +1

      Exactly correct, it makes a lot more sense now

    • @jeffreymonsell659
      @jeffreymonsell659 Місяць тому

      ​@@markyuhnke7860 Oh thank goodness, it was so awkward and unthematic before.

  • @hunsler1006
    @hunsler1006 Місяць тому +1

    Faramir always letting Denathor down 😅

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому +1

      Always letting me down as well, I understand Denethor more now hahahaha

  • @Dirk_Daring
    @Dirk_Daring Місяць тому +1

    NICE BR GUYS

  • @ClaymoreLinx
    @ClaymoreLinx Місяць тому

    Spectres can only force a model toward them in this edition? Or did I read that wrongly.

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому +1

      That is completely correct. For the first use of the "A fell light is in them" special rule we got it wrong but every time after that we got it correct

    • @ClaymoreLinx
      @ClaymoreLinx Місяць тому

      @@ConquestCreations Ah, I didn't get to finish the video, good to hear, I think it is much more balanced in the new edition.

  • @metascrub285
    @metascrub285 Місяць тому

    I personally think elves got the biggest buff. Everything around them got nerfed. Alot of f7 heros now and with strike being kinda bad imo it's hard for weaker heros to vene out fight your regular troops.

  • @Lenneth8
    @Lenneth8 Місяць тому

    Fuck Yes love some minas Tirith

  • @michal888ful
    @michal888ful Місяць тому

    If witch King would barge on the fight with Faramir he would get monstrours charge benefits on the second fight?:) it would give him bigger chance to set Faramir ablaze:)
    I think that if Witch King uses the fire it should work till at least one model is killed by fire or something like that:p

    • @Competentetyler
      @Competentetyler Місяць тому +1

      @@michal888ful Yes, however Faramir still had the higher Fight value after the strike.

    • @michal888ful
      @michal888ful Місяць тому

      @Competentetyler yeah, it would be risky but maybe worth it with 3 fate points and only one might on Faramir:)

    • @michal888ful
      @michal888ful Місяць тому

      I cannot wait to try kill some big Heroes with Witch King charging with enchanted blades :)

    • @michal888ful
      @michal888ful Місяць тому

      I cannot wait to try kill some big Heroes with Witch King charging with enchanted blades :)

  • @STAVROSXAKIS-s8s
    @STAVROSXAKIS-s8s Місяць тому

    you forgot about Denethor being able to steal priority on the Minas Tirith Legion!

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому

      Thanks for the comment, I think about 2/3rds through the game I used the "Do you think the eyes of the white tower are blind" special rule to take priority

  • @barforlifebarforlife6019
    @barforlifebarforlife6019 Місяць тому

    Also 23:15 , 4s from the captain was enough , because denethor coruage is 5+ with minus 1 is 6+ which meand S4 on Courage 4 is 4s

    • @carlopulcini9585
      @carlopulcini9585 Місяць тому +2

      New harbinger influences courage tests rather than characteristic so I think it was played correctly

    • @barforlifebarforlife6019
      @barforlifebarforlife6019 Місяць тому

      @carlopulcini9585 ah yes youre right, sorry I didnt read that Line of Text, so harbringer is worse now

  • @repthe21st66
    @repthe21st66 Місяць тому +1

    Boromir would have won that battle ...

  • @Nomogizmo111200
    @Nomogizmo111200 Місяць тому

    Orcs!!

  • @aazron87
    @aazron87 Місяць тому

    I like the uptake in video quality, but not so keen on the GW copycat style of sitting off to one side for the talk to camera segements. Just feels like a cheap knock off. I prefered when you had your own style.

    • @ConquestCreations
      @ConquestCreations  Місяць тому

      Thanks for the comment, genuinely really helpful feedback to get. It is very heavily inspired by GW's videos so I will play around with it a bit to make it more original and in my branding for the next one.