Yep! Marvin kept coming, Ray kept punching, scoring points and stole the Middleweight title from him like another Sugar Ray stole it from a raging bull
I miss those days when a boxing fight dominated the weeks preceding it.. Now its just who has paid for the pay per view. It has ruined things on both sides of the pond.
Though I remember this fight well and it kinda drove me nuts at the time. I remember saying consistently, Hagler what are you doing??? Maybe it's the fight where he got old in a snap. Leonard wasn't doing anything spectacular. But to me if any fight was ever a draw it was this one. Also was to me the last big fight of my father's era.
My dad had a really big smile on his face yesterday when I played the full fight on TV. It's rare to see him like that, he was so happy to watch his favorite, Sugar Leonard fights once again.
He got u hagler especially last round he threw about 20punches off the ropes and at least19 landed did u see them coming I believe now Ray was the fastest in boxing
All the time? No. No they didn't. Herol Graham was Hagler's #1 contender. Never fought. Graham was Hearns' #1 contender too... Never fought. None of the big 4 fought Sumbu Kalambay either. These were two of the best guys around.. and they were frozen out.
jakenconor Ur right , as you already know , that does happen in boxing . Most times , those guys know who to avoid. And other times politics screws hungry contenders. Unfortunately , that’s the breaks
jakenconor both of those guys were not stars, it’s like what hagler told mccallum , he was good but he had to go for the money fights .both graham and kalambay were chinny too. and Graham became Hagler's mandatory in late 1986 after winning an eliminator against Mark Kaylor. By then Hagler had already signed to fight Sugar Ray Leonard so wtf are you spitting.
@@protectorategeneral how do you become a star in the first place if the other stars won't fight you? What I'm "spitting" is that the best didnt actually fight the best, contrary to the original comment. Try to keep up. Kalambay was stopped ONCE in his whole career.... How does that make him chinny... You fuckin simpleton. As if being chinny was any way relevant to the argument anyway. Gobshite.
jakenconor when graham became hagler’s number one challenger hagler already signed the contract to fight Leonard, so hagler needs to drop his contract with Leonard the biggest payday in his life to fight graham a nothing special no one knows no one gives a fuck? You are fuckin idiot trying to act smart. Gtfoh.
Hagler deserved the loss for all of his low blows alone that were not called. Typical of Hagler. 3 losses in his career and would have been 20 if he wasn't allowed so many low blows
@@speedkills7710 Good one and that's the great thing about all these guys, a sheet of paper is the only thing that separates any of them at any one time and we the audience were, and still are enthralled by them. How lucky we are.
@@robertsanchez7185 I see that you don't have what all those great fighters did. Here's a hint, put a couple of letters before a word you might be familiar with, ASS
It was a time for war when Marvin stepped in and man did he bring the pain, the fight between him and Tommy Hearns will always be remembered the most for war
I don´t know how to say this in english (my native language is spanish) so you can use a traductor: Hagler era ambidiestro, peleaba igual de bien como boxeador derecho a como peleaba igual de bien un boxeador zurdo, no he visto a nadie más en la historia del boxeo hacer eso. En medio de una pelea cuando las cosas parecían ponerse feas para él cambiaba su esquema y dejaba locos a sus rivales. Grande Marvin Hagler, UN BOXEADOR ÚNICO!
was he Lenoard made mince meat of him in this fight, different class of boxer Sugar Ray, Hagler just a street fighter, came up against a fighter with brains and he had no answer, the fight wasn't even close Leonard won by a street but always one corrupt judge
Que afano fue ésta pelea, por lo menos era un empate, Hagler siempre al frente y en el centro del ring, como un gran campeón. Pero el negocio pasa por otro lado. Saludos
IMO THE best fight of all time. I remember watching this live and it was thrilling from second one to the final bell. Both masters of the craft with very different styles and genuine needle between two all time greats. I also think it was never the robbery some think, the decision could always have gone either way and it depends which style you prefer as to who you think should have won. Me, I always liked the sweet science served up with unrivalled skill and the ability to hit and not be hit. Both members of the legendary Four Kings era. Damn I miss these guys! 😊
I thought Leonard won; my brother-Hagler. Marvin always moving forward, Sugar landed a few more punches. Hagler didn’t seem to be hurt by Ray’s punches. Great fight!👊
One of the greatest matches ever. Although Hagler got in more power shots, Leonard def won this on points. God Bless both of these guys. Excellent stuff
He was gassed after 6 rds too, 7-12 he beat Hagler on spirit alone. Prime Leonard vs Prime Hagler over 15 rds, I think Leonard gets him outa there if it looks anything like this. Im not making excuses for Hagler but this was after that epic war with Mugabi, it mighta left him jaded, but it was equal in so much that Leonard hadnt been living the life of a fighter & was ring rusted, not that it showed in his timing but it showed in his stamina.
@@SPIDERM0OSE mate leonard lost this fight I just rewatched the whole fight and here are my round by round thoughts: Round 1 Hagler lands the only hard punch of the round but neither lands anything of significance. Leonard moves beautifully, Hagler relentlessly follows, not allowing him any room to breathe. Gorgeous movement from both men. Could easily be a round that goes to either, but I would give it to Leonard by a hair. 10-9 Leonard Round 2 Again, it’s like a textbook of one guy running and the other cutting off the ring. Wouldn’t see another example at this high a level until the first GGG-Canelo fight. More punches thrown this round, Leonard landing some good ones, Hagler got a couple harder ones in there especially those short check hooks, he lands two of those on Ray. Ray holding way too much, even jumps at Hagler at one point just to hold, doesn’t even throw a punch. Another close round, because Ray again comes alive in the final 25 seconds or so, and you can hear his corner calling it out to him. It’s a toss-up round that I would give to Hagler because the punches he landed felt more significant. 10-9 Hagler, 19-19 Round 3 Leonard lands his most powerful punches of the fight, a handful of really good shots over the course of the round, but his movement has slowed quite a bit and Hagler lands more and harder shots, easily winning the round. 10-9 Hagler, 29-28 Hagler Round 4 God, Leonard’s hand speed is ridiculous. Some of these punches he lands are just strictly from speed and his ring IQ in knowing how and when to throw them. His movement a little sharper in this round and he really brought it more to Hagler this round. You can tell that Hagler’s punches are harder, but Leonard, even with the couple of uncalled low blows, takes this round for sure. 10-9 Leonard, 38-38 Round 5 Man I forgot how good this fight is. It’s a great fight to use as an example of fighting styles and how to approach. Leonard is on the outside and even though he has slightly less reach than Hagler, he’s got the distance figured out to such an extent that his range shots have great landing percentage. However, this is also the round where Hagler figured out how powerful his uppercuts can be while Ray keeps having his arms out (either throwing or trying to clinch). He hammers Ray with some of these inside shots and check hooks and stuff. I’m not sure what the stats say about this round, but Hagler landed the more significant and powerful shots, so I’m giving it to him. Also the extent to which the announcers are in the bag for Ray at this point is hilarious. “Hagler keeps switching to orthodox, he’s so confused by Leonard he doesn’t know what to do!” Or he’s changing his stance so he both cuts off the ring and Ray never knows when or where the punches are gonna come from. It’s actually high level ring IQ from Hagler, which would frustrate most opponents, but Ray isn’t overly worried about it because of his own ring genius. 10-9 Hagler, 48-47 Hagler Round 6 Hagler starts off getting some really good shots in, jabs from distance and short hooks inside. Another great example of styles from this fight is the comparison of defense. Both fighter’s defense was underrated, as Ray could make you miss from his movement and range mastery, while Hagler was made from pure steel and concrete and takes so many punches on his arms with his blocking. However, as this round goes on, Hagler seems to slow, while Ray stays steady. Ray connects on a great number of punches and even though Hagler came out looking great in the opening minute or so, Ray took this one. 10-9 Leonard, 57-57 Round 7 Ray’s movement has slowed a lot, and he is using his arms to try and control Hagler more than dancing around him. Leonard’s ability to adjust his style while still engaging and defending himself is incredibly impressive. Unfortunately, he only lands maybe 2-3 hard punches which thanks to Hagler’s iron jaw he doesn’t even seem to feel. Leonard lands a bunch of ticky tack nothing punches, but it seems like even an arm punch without his whole body behind it from Hagler is thudding into Ray hard. Hagler definitely takes this round. 10-9 Hagler, 67-66 Hagler Round 8 Hagler is dominating to the body, those shots digging into Leonard over and over again. Some of these shots would take out even great fighters. Ray’s ability to take punishment is not talked about enough. He really was a complete fighter. But just like the announcers, who have moved away from slobbering all over Ray over the last couple rounds, have said, Ray’s punches have nothing on them. The combination of his lack of power and Hagler’s iron chin means nothing he’s landing with means much of anything at all, while even Hagler’s lead jabs are hitting Ray hard. 10-9 Hagler, 77-75 Hagler Round 9 Hagler is just teeing off at one point, and Ray’s chin is showing to be amazing. Ray is again hitting in flurries, and even landing some good hard shots in there. But Hagler is just pounding to the body and landing too hard of shots to the head to be able to give the round to Ray. Both guys are absolutely exhausted in the round, and with good reason. 10-9 Hagler, 87-84 Hagler Round 10 Leonard’s best round of the fight, he lands some flurries but also some hard shots, and Hagler is exhausted. Ray is too, which is why Hagler is also pounding away on the body and landing easy shots to Ray’s head too. These guys are just incredible fighters. I give this round to Ray, but it could easily swing to Hagler with how much each guy is landing their shots. 10-9 Leonard, 96-94, Hagler Round 11 Again, Hagler lands the more significant blows throughout the round, but I think Ray lands enough here that I feel alright giving it to him. 10-9 Leonard, 105-104 Hagler Round 12 Ray lands a ton of punches that do nothing to Hagler. Again and again Hagler lands to more powerful and thudding shots. It’s a great fight but Hagler definitely takes this round, no matter Ray’s showboating. 10-9 Hagler, 115-113 Hagler Overall thoughts are that it was closer than I remembered, but I still really don’t see how anyone could score the fight in Leonard’s favor. If given the swing rounds, I could see it being a draw, but a win for Leonard is something I can’t possibly watch this fight and come away thinking is right. Dont forget the criminal scorecards 115-113 hagler 115-113 leonard 118-110 leonard the last judge lmao only gave hagmer round 5 and 12
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Hagler was otherworldly. The textbook definition of a slow-starter but when he got going, he got GOING. The conditioning, endurance, power, and discipline of this man is second to none. He could get hit dozens of times and not let up his pursuit. On the flipside, he only needed to land a couple of punches to scramble his opponent's frequencies. This man is someone you can be proud to look up to. No scandals, no failed drug tests, no excuses, no bullshit -- this man was a real warrior. Hagler was and still is my hero. I'm heartbroken I never got to meet him before his passing. RIP Marvelous.
Hagler was a conditioned monster and legend that would obliterate all current.I can't believe little Duran went full competitive fight with him.Thats why he's my Greatest lightweight ever.Anyways Hagler is a Goat.
there was a lotta pop in those shots too, he was gettin his body into those hooks n torquing em. Hagler took a great punch but Leonard was an exceptional athlete.
To go the distance with Marvin after almost two years away from the ring was a remarkable achievement by Leonard. But the judges were half blinded by the romance of that. What actually happened in the ring was not sufficient to take away Marvin`s belts. Marvin deserved to get the decision.
Nah. Hagler deserved the loss for all of his low blows alone that were not called. Typical of Hagler. 3 losses in his career and would have been 20 if he wasn't allowed so many low blows
yes. Hagler won. I'm amazed at how many people are mesmerized by a 'pretty' fighter that dances and runs the entire time. I only saw one round that I could clearly give to Leonard. He had no stinging jab, no powerful combos, he never came close to rocking MMH.
@@monkeyb1820 Sorry, but "rocking" isn't in the scoring rule book. And my opinion has nothing to do with Leonard's style. Practically everybody, including those who believe Hagler won the fight, state that Leonard won the early rounds, so your giving one round to Leonard is clearly partisan. Partisans on both sides view this fight through rose-colored lenses. Those who say that Leonard won almost every round or that Hagler won almost every round are obvious examples of this. Unless you're knocked down or out, a point is a point. I simply think that Leonard scored more points than Hagler.
For me, this was the greatest fight of all time. Such a difficult fight to score as it was such a furious one. I would probably call it a draw because it was do close. RIP Marvin
Leonard's footwork made the difference in this match. Hagler just couldn't catch him for long, Leonard masterfully moved with ease out of harms way. Hat's off to both champion's they gave us our money's worth every time.
I agree with you 100 percent. So many stupid comments surround this fight. Like how could anyone say, Hagler won and NOT give Leonard credit for his chin? Did anybody think Leonard was going to brawl or try to smash Hagler? That did not work out for Ray in the first fight with Duran-- though it was entertaining and competitive. The game plan for Hagler, was to first make him look mortal, get in his head, and then steal a decision...executed to perfection. Ray watched him for years and waited for Marvin to slow down to a version he could beat... banking he himself would have enough left in the tank to exploit him. Remember, Leonard was diminished too-- plus a 5 year layoff. As good as his footwork was here, he was older and slower and after piecing Hagler up numerous times, he was not able to exit cleanly without getting hit. That is what made the fight competitive. As you indicated, much of Hagler's forward pressure was ineffective because he couldn't catch him and because often times when he got there, Leonard was waiting with a barrage of punches, that either matched or exceeded Hagler's output. Leonard swung for the fences without fear of big counters. At times he rough-housed him, at one point grabbing his neck, and pulling Hagler's head down. I do recall the compubox numbers being largely in Ray's favor...I think he landed significantly more punches than Hagler threw. It was a puzzling performance by Hagler-- who went conservative in a HUGE fight again, as he did against Duran and Vito Antifuermo the first time. At times he is throwing pitter-patter punches content to score points while Leonard was swinging for the fences. He never hurt Marvin, but it was one of many things Leonard did to sway the judges. I think Ray won it outright by being the busier fighter. Again, puzzling by Hagler, because he knew of boxings politics...took him 50 fights to get a title shot when he was clearly the best middleweight in the world. He had to know he needed a finish. Puzzling indeed. Had they fought 2-3 years earlier, Hagler would have been more dangerous but Ray would have danced circles around him-- exiting without getting hit etc. It would have been boring and one-sided. They fought at the perfect time to give us one for the ages.
@@StevenSmith-zw1pd I think the fight was mostly even. But, what turned the fight in Leonard's favor, is the fact that more of his shots hit the target. They were clean shots. Besides, his hand speed was great. Despite this, Hagler kept coming. Hagler had incredible chin, taking blows and going for the target.
This was the last fight of Hagler's long, 67 fight Hall of Fame career! A career that saw Hagler hold the highest knockout percentage of all undisputed middleweight champions, at 78%! Leonard had half as many fights at that point in his career! People give Leonard far too much credit for winning a controversial split decision over a battle worn Champion!
@@BST-lm4po May be, but the way I see the fight, Leonard hit more clean shots and had better defense, while Hagler kept coming at him. Boxing is an art, where skills are important. Hagler, surely had better chin and the aggressor. And yes, Hagler was not in his prime for this fight.
Great fight! Fucking Leonard always hitting after the bell!!! Man, I love Hagler soooooooooo much! Great fight, both great warriors!! Man, I miss those fights so much!
one of the greatest fights ever both guys just went in there and just had a war despite who you had winning this was the fight of the era along with hagler hearns
Leonard gano claramente. Demostro lo que es boxear, pegar y que no te peguen. Ademas fue' guapo ante un boxeador mucho mas fuerte que el. Leonard era completo, el boxeador perfecto!
Leonard had it all, speed, great footwork, fast hands, and knockout power, and I'd say the best "welterweight" of the 20 th Century. A lot of fun to watch.
Leonard fought just like Ali . Even when it looked like his opponent was getting to him , he’d rally off a volley of punches to sway the judges decision- smart fighting.
Leonard Clinched way to much. He couldn't deal with Haglers offence, which is way he held(foul) the entire fight. I blame the ref for not removing points for it, and the judges for ignoring it.
@@alanclarke1320 Grabbing is a foul in boxing, Leonard grabbed the entire fight. If a wrestler throws punches in a wrestling match, he loses points until he's disqualified. As entertaining the fight was, it was very bad for boxing because of big names that followed later made a name for themselves following this tactic when facing an opponent they could not hurt. Just count how many time Leonard grabbed Hagler so the ref could step in to reset the position, if you pay attention the fight is disgusting.
@@FCar-hx6uf ali clinched way more, especially against the smaller frazier. Personally i think p4p leonard was better. The flurries he would come out with against the ropes were insane. And his punch output was just on different levels to most other boxers
Si corría, mas no huía, si le tocaba moverse ,lo hacia ,ysi le tocaba fajarse también,en fin ,era un boxeador inteligente, no era un especulador resultadista.
Fantastic fight and incredibly difficult to score the winner. Haglers constant barrage of forward attacks versus Leonard’s amazing skills, reflexes and showy combinations. I remember watching this live and thinking Ray had just edged it and having watched it maybe twenty times since, I haven’t changed my mind. He used every trick in the book, playing to the crowd and no doubt manipulated the sentiment in the arena which may have swayed the judges, but at the heart of it was his speed of punch. When he lets those blurring flurries of punches go, they seem so much more crisp and solid than Haglers constant wearing down approach. So ultimately, it completely depends on what you look for in a fight. Brilliant contest and RIP to Mr Hagler.
Fue la noche de Leonard pues para vencer a Marvin tenía que hacer la pelea perfecta. Sin equivocarse en el planteamiento táctico que era el de ganarle en velocidad y hacer sincronizadas combinaciones, en tanto evadía o amarraba al gran campeón. Aunque la pelea fue emotiva y cerrada de principio a fin, no hay dudas de que Leonard ganó con lo justo.
LoLz, he did use every trick in the book, Leonard was TRICKY, a BAD boy. He was gassed after 6 rds, opened his bag of tricks n beat Hagler with ring craft & heart from 7-12. Leonard was something else.
@@GeorgeFreeman55 Ray was always favored by judges . Same goes for any olympian boxer. No one can compare a mediocre 40 fight fighter like Ray with the 120 of Duran .
@@dubongros3108 Sorry old bean saying the sentence mediocre in the same sentence as Leonard is beyond ridiculous.. The quality of fighter he fought and defeated erodes such a pitiful statement.
@@neilsmith9398 it was a very close fight.. But I have always wondered why Hagler never wanted a rematch.. I think he knew Leonard was the better fighter and would've won even easier in the return.
Hagler fue el más completo de todos los medianos,pero no voy a cuestionar el triunfo de Leonard: sus golpes fueron más precisos y pudo salir airoso de los tenaces ataques de Marvelous. Ahora,qué orgullo siento de haber sido testigo de aquellas grandes veladas boxisticas y disfrutar a pura adrenalina de cada pelea entre los "4 fantásticos" de los gloriosos 80's: Hagler,Leonard, Hearns,Duran...
Marvin Hagler Coming Foward All the Time.Where Is His Defense.Leornard Could Evade Punches Great Handspeed.Leornard Was The Classier of the Two.I was A Fan of Both these Fighters.I Remember Predicting that if They Were To Meet, Leonard Will Emerge Victorius although it was a Close Call.With Luv from South Africa.
William Ortega ray Leonard was great but look at him running lol , Duran fought a better fight then Leonard (most people believe hagler got robbed in this fight)
The fight between hagler and Leonard should have been a draw. And the judge who said Leonard won the fight by such a wide margin didn't see the same fight I saw.
Sugar Ray timed the fight to perfection, haglers previous fight with mugabi took a lot out of him that was a tough fight, sugar Ray could see hagler slowing down and seizured the opportunity to beat hagler, but to me hagler was the greatest middleweight that ever lived his all round style of fighting was just phenomenal!!
Steve Alderson If they fought five years earlier, Hagler probably would have won. Sugar Ray was smart and calculating in and out of the ring, and timed when to fight Hagler perfectly.
@Brian Whitehead don't forget he didn't fight hagler in his prime and some say he used his " 5 year retirement" as an excuse to not to fight hagler in his prime
I think since Marvin was aggressor.whole fight and had Ray in trouble at times and landed the heavier punches it was clear Marvin hagler won that fight I watched it then and said and he won then and I'm saying it now hagler got ripped off
Steezy, MARVELOUS ganó x 2 puntos, Marvin creo q no le pegó una vez terminado el round, Sugar se canso de pegarle después de la campana, el reglamento dice otra cosa, también disparo mucho, ademas no les sentía las manos Marvin, en los últimos rounds parecia q le tiraba caricias xq si le pegaba fuerte podía ganarle x K.O. y eso iba en contra de los intereses mafiosos, x eso no peleo mas. se acabó, ademas nunca le dio la revancha, xq sabía q lo dejaba K.O., seguro
Awww please, to this day I still say Leonard won this fight and those were not love taps Hagler felt those punches that's why he backed off a lot of times, it was a great fight, but hagler lost, and he yes he was a great fighter, but he wasn't invincible
@@mouthofprayer8180 those were actually love taps. Hagler NEVER backed off that fight. And when he would he was just taking a breath. Hagler pushed forward all night
@@mouthofprayer8180 You are blind. Leonard's punches had zero effect on Hagler. All he did was punch and run away. He did this the whole fight. Hagler was NEVER hurt by Leonard's punches. Hagler hit Leonard much harder and hurt him several times. Leonard was the media darling, that is why the judges awarded him the fight. He lost.
Great fight I remember betting on Haggler and I lost I honestly didn’t think Sugar Ray Leonard could be Haggler I actually thought it was a draw it was a super close fight.
Me too lost $ at worst it should have been a draw hagler came out righty and it cost him to the fanboy judges.i don’t think ray did enough to take a belt from a champion
You are joking, lol. Good one! Hagler gave away the first 4 rounds fighting right handed and goofing off. I honestly think the last 8 rounds were 4-4 so I had it 8-4 for Leonard or 116-112.
I don't have the time to give you as many thumbs up for your comment. It was a popularity decision. Sugar was more flash than substance and that's what sells. Marvelous will always be the greatest Middleweight of my life and that didn't change on this night either. A true warrior with a steel chin. 🙏 Rest in peace Champ you more than deserve it... The Brockton Brawler!
@@seanmeaney6154 you can call Leonard's punches flash, but the truth is, is that in this actual fight, Leonard's punches were more effective than Haglers, slow, lethargic attempts of his previous self. Sorry to say,. Hagler just wasn't the great he had been and that's a big reason Leonard came out of a long retirement to fight him. I figured Leonard would be in trouble before the fight and would have to be at his very best to even have a chance with the greatest middleweight ever. The sad thing is, is that Leonard wasn't even at his all time best, but even with the rust of a long retirement, he still had the skill to beat washed up Hagler.
@@dougdickason I'll agree with Hagler being on the back nine of his career. He may have been walking up the 18th fairway. However, Hagler was the reigning Champ. To take the belt Ray would have had to win convincingly. Not only did he fail to do that, I and most others didn't think he won at all. Just another middle finger to Marvin. He never got the respect he earned. It's nice to see that has been changing with his passing. He deserved it years ago
@@seanmeaney6154 I'm not sure you can say "most others" agree that Hagler won. I think it's mainly the people who don't like Leonard who felt that way. I was almost as big of a fan of Hagler as I was Leonard. I was about 8 when I saw Leonard win the gold medal in the Olympics and I followed his whole career and I got to see a lot of Haglers beginning with his battles with Antifuermo and Minter and then Hamsho. When the fight was announced I was worried Ray would lose and maybe badly because he had been off so long. I have watched the fight 20 times at least and have scored it closely close to 10. I have scored it being bias for Hagler and for Leonard. I have scored based on the stronger shots and ring control and ring generalship, defense,footwork, body punching, and all the things that make up a fight. I only ever had Hagler getting a draw. I didn't see Hagler dictating the fight in a dominant way. I felt that as much as Hagler tried to control the ring, Leonay used that against Hagler much of the time. The harder punches is what gets me."Oh Hagler landed the much harder shots than Rays pitter patter fluff," but I didn't see(or hear) that. If the knockout king of the middleweight division was landing all these "much harder blows" than Ray, then what was the welterweight, retired for 3 years, blown up Ray doing NOT getting knocked out, knocked down, or cut. He looked better after the fight than before, so these devastating blows Hagler landed really left their mark. I saw (and heard) Ray landing crisp combinations to the head and body. He was landing the lead right some too. The 9th round when the announcers act like Ray is out on his feet is a joke too. Hagler landed one good shot, like a hook uppercut, his best punch of the fight, and really didn't land anything much after that although the announcers would have you believe he was about to get knocked out, then Ray came blasting out of the corner with not just pitter patter but with good shots. That reminds me, I watched it many times with the sound off because the announcing really is distracting when trying to score. I felt Marvin gave away the first 4 rounds with the fourth round being a little closer. Then basically the rest of the fight was even and I wouldn't cry if someone said Hagler won the final 8 by a 5 to 3 margin although I usually had it 4-4. So most times I scored it I had it 115-113 or 116-112 for Leonard. Also this ridiculous idea that you can't win a title unless you absolutely dominate the fight is a joke to me as well. I felt Leonard did enough to win and if you want to make a rule where you have to win a unanimous decision by 4-5 rounds in each card to get the title then make that rule and start a boxing association.
I watched this fight live back in 87 and have probably watched it around a hundred times give or take since. Ive watched it half speed many times and finally came to my own conclusion that Ray did win by a slight margin. Marvin missed so many punches its almost unbelievable. I saw most all these guys fight back in the 70's and 80's, pretty incredible to be able look back at some of the best fights in boxing history.
Running is still legal in boxing, my problem with Leonard is that he clinched non stop and didnt lose point for it. Its clearly stated in the rules that you cant hold the oppponent and referees wrongfully let it happen all the time. Guys like Mayweather do this all the time when fighting boxers with solid offence, and the referees let him do it without deducting points.
@@eltonreid5577 Like I said, faster, speed, non stop moving... these are not a problem at all...its all legal. Grabbing is not, and Leonard did it the entire fight.
these judges robbed us from more classic fights by robbing the marvelous one from his earned victory. Rarely have we seen a fighter so disgusted with the judges that he ended a lucrative career for it. RIP legend.
@@ivo4357 ray clearly won the 1st 4 rounds. So there’s no wat Hagler won 7 out of the last 8 rounds to beat ray. I scored 115-113 ray.🤷🏽♂️ this was no robbery
Hagler was going to retire anyway, but he did win the fight, dodgy scoring! Leonard ran for 2 minutes of every 3 minutes of a round, and put flashy shit, to win the crowd!!!! But that isn't winning the fight?? Hagler was always the aggressor pushing the fight winning atleast 2 minutes of most rounds and landing more punchers......and he LOST!!!????🤔💩💩
After this fight I stopped watching boxing for a few years. It was clearly now a show & not a fight. For anyone commenting this was the greatest fight ever ... are you serious? Throughout his career Marvin was never respected the way he should have been. This night was no exception. It was clear that Hagler was much slower now & the recent wars with Hearns & Mugabi took a lot out of him. Leonard was on & off retired & had much less miles on him. But Hagler landed many more meaningful blows throughout this fight. Leonard put on a show & stole rounds he virtually did nothing of substance in. In a decision you have to decisively beat a champion, especially when it's Hagler who should have held legendary status. Watching this still bothers me to this day. No disrespect to Leonard, but considering the quality of opponents Hagler fought I consider him the greatest fighter of my lifetime & I'm 58yrs old
@@scrapperd7827 Hagler blocked many of SRL's punches, but it's about more than just punches. It's also effective aggression, defense, ring generalship. Leonard danced and ran, Hagler came to fight. It's no surprise that many media outlets scored it for MMH. One of the judges was entirely corrupt.
I agree. We will never know the truth, but I seriously wonder if there wasn't some kind of fix going on. Hagler was in excellent physical shape. He rocked SRL with around 30 seconds left in the 5th, but he really showed no killer instinct. That is the part that is odd--how Hagler just didn't show killer instinct or really 'rush' SRL, even though it was obvious the entire time that SRL's punches had no effect on Hagler at all. I'd think that if you're MMH going against some blown-up weakpunching SRL, you'd rush him, roughhouse him a bit. But he fought a very 'subdued' type of fight.
I din’t believe Hagler would have been involved in a fixed fight. Every fight Hahker was in turned into a war. Hearns & Mugabi were the two fights before this Leonard fight. He just got old & slow, compared to when he was younger.
Oh my gosh, this is the real fight of the century!Pacman vs Mayweather was the mockery of the century.Pacman wanted to fight but Floyd wanted to win and so he did by hugging, running and pushing.
Its called boxing not fighting for a reason and no one is during his reign was better at it than Mayweather. Hate the man but his boxing skill and ring IQ is above the rest. He made every fighter that was dominating other boxers look like amateurs. The proof is in the footage period!!!!!
@@michaeltrumph121 thanks 👍🏾so many talk that floyd run crap and haven't even watched his fights. Floyd waited to fight pacman when he was out of his prime. Um so I guess floyd got younger as manny aged 🤣🤦🏾♂️🤫
@@MrBXP Many don't like his style and that is ok, but those that really understand the sport can appreciate and understand that the man is really great at what he does.
You can't find two boxers in any weight class today that can come close to the middle weight class of the 80s. Man I would give any thing to watch one of these guys box live. I was a teenager in the 80s.
@@timothylawson3262 But Hagler WON that fight (in my opinion which means nothing).....R.I.P. To M.M. Hagler, him and sugar ray robinson were THEE BEST to have EVER done it.
Ray outboxed Hagler because he could,Durran couldn't so he had to go toe to toe and lost to Marvin. Hagler was still the Greatest middle weight of the modern era
@@lockoshocko oh right , I must have been watching a different fight then cos ray could have punched haggler for a 100 rounds to no effect, yes he was a good dancer but wasn’t really a fighter..I reckon he would kill it on dancing on ice though lol 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Just reading about Hagler's passing. No wonder why he walked away from boxing. I never saw this fight but clearly from these highlights Hagler was dominant. Leonard's punches were ineffective. RIP MMH. You won that fight.
Probably one of the most sentimental & biased opinions of all time. SRL clearly won this bout on points, watch the full fight & the best u could have given hagler as an knowledgeable observer is a draw. There was no way on earth hagler won this fight.
A slight edge to Leonard. Great fight! Leonard always knew how to throw people off their regular game and frustrate them by making his opponent fight his fight.
I counted punches landed myself and hagler won more than 4 rounds for sure by scoring and being agressor and doing good job while in fighting, leonard won like 4 rounds with fast flurries mainly Edited because of misspelling
Hagler outthrew and outlanded Leonard..landed more power shots and was the aggressor ..you have to take the man's title...that isn't done by running and slapping..ray won over the crowd and 1 judge (the other bought and paid for) but didn't win the fight...Vegas was never kind to Hagler while it loved Leonard as all the stipulations favored Ray.
@@miracleman8022 I watched the fight closely a hundred times, ray landed the cleaner shots for sure. Hagler was throwing wild shots that hit mostly gloves.
I remember watching that live, I was so upset that Hagler lost, he won that, but Leonard was the boxing darling of America at that time in history, and so got the win.
RIP Marvelous. Thanks for the incredible memories.
LOL he's not dead 😆😆😆😆
@@benadams1661 Died Mar 13 2021. Apology accepted.
@@baskinginbarreto6309 LOL are you high?
@@benadams1661 No, are you illiterate? There’s an app called Google, get educated.
@@benadams1661 tf do you mean what just google it he is not alive
Marvin never RAN from any fighter just kept coming at you
Lier chicken suga
@john loughlin nope
Yep! Marvin kept coming, Ray kept punching, scoring points and stole the Middleweight title from him like another Sugar Ray stole it from a raging bull
Both of these guys stamina was through the roof
@David Michaels dang i see you
both past their prime also
@David Michaels Nice verbiage !!! And you sound like Ali ‘63
Hagler was cheated..what a,fake
RIP "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler. A true legend of the sport.
qo545
He got his ass wooped in this one
...YESSSS!... A TRUE LEGEND!......
@@thunderstorm4074 hagler didn't get hurt once
@@arturobetanzo4373 ok
I will be 60 in 4 months, i remember this fight well, it was the talk on the job before and after the fight.
I miss those days when a boxing fight dominated the weeks preceding it.. Now its just who has paid for the pay per view. It has ruined things on both sides of the pond.
You sir grew up in a great era of boxing
Congratulations om becoming 60!
Though I remember this fight well and it kinda drove me nuts at the time. I remember saying consistently, Hagler what are you doing??? Maybe it's the fight where he got old in a snap. Leonard wasn't doing anything spectacular. But to me if any fight was ever a draw it was this one. Also was to me the last big fight of my father's era.
What incredible fighters. The golden days.
My dad had a really big smile on his face yesterday when I played the full fight on TV. It's rare to see him like that, he was so happy to watch his favorite, Sugar Leonard fights once again.
Very cool my Dad worked like 6 days a week all his life, but he loved his boxing.
All these champions have provided so much entertainment and excitement over a fantastic era to last several generations and more indeed! Nice tale👍
Leonard was a bitch who ran
Like my dad used to say, “they just do not make them like they used to”.
Leonard's best fight ever a scaried fighter is a dangerous fighter
Leo ard did right don't let him measure and hit u
He got u hagler especially last round he threw about 20punches off the ropes and at least19 landed did u see them coming I believe now Ray was the fastest in boxing
Daddy right.
I refer thee to Gatti Ward,
A truly great fight by two truly great boxers. RIP Marvin Hagler 🙏
Whether you think Sugar Ray won or not, he fought his ass off. Hagler too. RIP to a true warrior.
Sugar L. Fan
Everyone knows Sugar Ray lost, he even admitted it himself to hagler
@@Alex-cw3rz He admitted it, hmmm, can you direct me to the source of this comment?
@@Alex-cw3rz i know for sure he admitted he lost the 2nd fight with Hearns, but i haven't seen him admit he lost to Hagler
@@Alex-cw3rz sugar ray clearly beat him easy 8-4 💯
Those were the days when the best fought the best all the time
All the time? No. No they didn't.
Herol Graham was Hagler's #1 contender. Never fought.
Graham was Hearns' #1 contender too... Never fought.
None of the big 4 fought Sumbu Kalambay either. These were two of the best guys around.. and they were frozen out.
jakenconor Ur right , as you already know , that does happen in boxing . Most times , those guys know who to avoid. And other times politics screws hungry contenders. Unfortunately , that’s the breaks
jakenconor both of those guys were not stars, it’s like what hagler told mccallum , he was good but he had to go for the money fights .both graham and kalambay were chinny too. and Graham became Hagler's mandatory in late 1986 after winning an eliminator against Mark Kaylor. By then Hagler had already signed to fight Sugar Ray Leonard so wtf are you spitting.
@@protectorategeneral how do you become a star in the first place if the other stars won't fight you?
What I'm "spitting" is that the best didnt actually fight the best, contrary to the original comment. Try to keep up.
Kalambay was stopped ONCE in his whole career.... How does that make him chinny... You fuckin simpleton. As if being chinny was any way relevant to the argument anyway. Gobshite.
jakenconor when graham became hagler’s number one challenger hagler already signed the contract to fight Leonard, so hagler needs to drop his contract with Leonard the biggest payday in his life to fight graham a nothing special no one knows no one gives a fuck? You are fuckin idiot trying to act smart. Gtfoh.
The best fight ever 🥊🥊🥊 but we lost one of the best fighter ever 😭Rest in peace ✌️ Marvelous Marvin Hagler 😭😭😭 we missed you ♥️♥️♥️
Well actually Hagler vs Hearns is the best fight. One of the greatest first rounds ever…
Hagler deserved the loss for all of his low blows alone that were not called. Typical of Hagler. 3 losses in his career and would have been 20 if he wasn't allowed so many low blows
@@tynao2029 🤣🤣😅😆😂😆😅🤣🤣😅😆😂
@@tynao2029 :|
Unfortunately he probably died of the clot shot so it is reported.
Two Titans, but if I could only choose one to go to war with me by my side, it would have to be The Marvellous One.
dam right.
@@speedkills7710 Good one and that's the great thing about all these guys, a sheet of paper is the only thing that separates any of them at any one time and we the audience were, and still are enthralled by them. How lucky we are.
yeah the one that lost the fight,so probably you guys would end up dead at war
@@robertsanchez7185 I see that you don't have what all those great fighters did. Here's a hint, put a couple of letters before a word you might be familiar with, ASS
But he lost.
RIP MARVIN, you did Brockton proud..!
It was a time for war when Marvin stepped in and man did he bring the pain, the fight between him and Tommy Hearns will always be remembered the most for war
I know the sport has change, I know it was a different era but got damn prize fighters gave their all inside the ring during that time.
Boxing was brutal
It was a lot brutal back then compared to today.
33 years ago. Unreal how time flies.
Mate I wish I can go back to that era
It seems like it was yesterday
Damn near feels criminal how fast that happened..damn
What a fight. These just don't happen anymore it seems. Both fighters are all time greats. R.I.P. Marvin Hagler
When did this fight take place?
Greatest comeback fight ever I was a teenager I will never forget all the hype going into that fight
It was EPIC.
Leonard brought the BUZZZZZ each n every time, nobody did it better.
The Golden age of boxing , Marvelous" Marvin Hagler was the best of them all ! RIP
I don´t know how to say this in english (my native language is spanish) so you can use a traductor: Hagler era ambidiestro, peleaba igual de bien como boxeador derecho a como peleaba igual de bien un boxeador zurdo, no he visto a nadie más en la historia del boxeo hacer eso. En medio de una pelea cuando las cosas parecían ponerse feas para él cambiaba su esquema y dejaba locos a sus rivales. Grande Marvin Hagler, UN BOXEADOR ÚNICO!
Nah he was getting papped out. They score the fight round by round.
was he Lenoard made mince meat of him in this fight, different class of boxer Sugar Ray, Hagler just a street fighter, came up against a fighter with brains and he had no answer, the fight wasn't even close Leonard won by a street but always one corrupt judge
No he lost to the best
RIP Just saw Marvelous passed away, he was GREAT !!!
RIP
He won this fight!!!! RIP Marvelous One 🙏
@@kevinshell8392 No doubt brother ! Best wishes to you and yours.
Yea Leonard dam sure aint win this one hitting after the bell and clinches
Que afano fue ésta pelea, por lo menos era un empate, Hagler siempre al frente y en el centro del ring, como un gran campeón. Pero el negocio pasa por otro lado. Saludos
IMO THE best fight of all time. I remember watching this live and it was thrilling from second one to the final bell. Both masters of the craft with very different styles and genuine needle between two all time greats. I also think it was never the robbery some think, the decision could always have gone either way and it depends which style you prefer as to who you think should have won. Me, I always liked the sweet science served up with unrivalled skill and the ability to hit and not be hit. Both members of the legendary Four Kings era. Damn I miss these guys! 😊
I thought Leonard won; my brother-Hagler. Marvin always moving forward, Sugar landed a few more punches. Hagler didn’t seem to be hurt by Ray’s punches. Great fight!👊
this is the fight that took me 3 days without sleeping cs hagler was my favorite boxer i couldn't magine him loosing
One of the greatest matches ever. Although Hagler got in more power shots, Leonard def won this on points.
God Bless both of these guys.
Excellent stuff
duran, leonard, hearns, hagler. the fabulous 4 is the best era in boxing
@@irishscience580 with out a doubt
Both would've beaten Mayweather
Dos grandes del boxeo de los " 80.
Que capacidad la de Leonard
Y que potencia la de Hagler
Dioses del olimpo boxistico!
What an amazing fight!
Two warriors! Skills,Carácter and most importantly Huge hearts.
@Reginald Starnes I respectfully Desagreed.
Just seeing Sugar Ray navigate the threat that Hagler presents has me on edge still. 147lb up to challenge 160lb legend. Great fight.
He was gassed after 6 rds too, 7-12 he beat Hagler on spirit alone.
Prime Leonard vs Prime Hagler over 15 rds, I think Leonard gets him outa there if it looks anything like this.
Im not making excuses for Hagler but this was after that epic war with Mugabi, it mighta left him jaded, but it was equal in so much that Leonard hadnt been living the life of a fighter & was ring rusted, not that it showed in his timing but it showed in his stamina.
Where were you in 1987?
@@SPIDERM0OSE
@@SPIDERM0OSE mate leonard lost this fight
I just rewatched the whole fight and here are my round by round thoughts:
Round 1
Hagler lands the only hard punch of the round but neither lands anything of significance. Leonard moves beautifully, Hagler relentlessly follows, not allowing him any room to breathe. Gorgeous movement from both men. Could easily be a round that goes to either, but I would give it to Leonard by a hair.
10-9 Leonard
Round 2
Again, it’s like a textbook of one guy running and the other cutting off the ring. Wouldn’t see another example at this high a level until the first GGG-Canelo fight. More punches thrown this round, Leonard landing some good ones, Hagler got a couple harder ones in there especially those short check hooks, he lands two of those on Ray. Ray holding way too much, even jumps at Hagler at one point just to hold, doesn’t even throw a punch. Another close round, because Ray again comes alive in the final 25 seconds or so, and you can hear his corner calling it out to him. It’s a toss-up round that I would give to Hagler because the punches he landed felt more significant.
10-9 Hagler, 19-19
Round 3
Leonard lands his most powerful punches of the fight, a handful of really good shots over the course of the round, but his movement has slowed quite a bit and Hagler lands more and harder shots, easily winning the round.
10-9 Hagler, 29-28 Hagler
Round 4
God, Leonard’s hand speed is ridiculous. Some of these punches he lands are just strictly from speed and his ring IQ in knowing how and when to throw them. His movement a little sharper in this round and he really brought it more to Hagler this round. You can tell that Hagler’s punches are harder, but Leonard, even with the couple of uncalled low blows, takes this round for sure.
10-9 Leonard, 38-38
Round 5
Man I forgot how good this fight is. It’s a great fight to use as an example of fighting styles and how to approach. Leonard is on the outside and even though he has slightly less reach than Hagler, he’s got the distance figured out to such an extent that his range shots have great landing percentage. However, this is also the round where Hagler figured out how powerful his uppercuts can be while Ray keeps having his arms out (either throwing or trying to clinch). He hammers Ray with some of these inside shots and check hooks and stuff. I’m not sure what the stats say about this round, but Hagler landed the more significant and powerful shots, so I’m giving it to him.
Also the extent to which the announcers are in the bag for Ray at this point is hilarious. “Hagler keeps switching to orthodox, he’s so confused by Leonard he doesn’t know what to do!” Or he’s changing his stance so he both cuts off the ring and Ray never knows when or where the punches are gonna come from. It’s actually high level ring IQ from Hagler, which would frustrate most opponents, but Ray isn’t overly worried about it because of his own ring genius.
10-9 Hagler, 48-47 Hagler
Round 6
Hagler starts off getting some really good shots in, jabs from distance and short hooks inside. Another great example of styles from this fight is the comparison of defense. Both fighter’s defense was underrated, as Ray could make you miss from his movement and range mastery, while Hagler was made from pure steel and concrete and takes so many punches on his arms with his blocking. However, as this round goes on, Hagler seems to slow, while Ray stays steady. Ray connects on a great number of punches and even though Hagler came out looking great in the opening minute or so, Ray took this one.
10-9 Leonard, 57-57
Round 7
Ray’s movement has slowed a lot, and he is using his arms to try and control Hagler more than dancing around him. Leonard’s ability to adjust his style while still engaging and defending himself is incredibly impressive. Unfortunately, he only lands maybe 2-3 hard punches which thanks to Hagler’s iron jaw he doesn’t even seem to feel. Leonard lands a bunch of ticky tack nothing punches, but it seems like even an arm punch without his whole body behind it from Hagler is thudding into Ray hard. Hagler definitely takes this round.
10-9 Hagler, 67-66 Hagler
Round 8
Hagler is dominating to the body, those shots digging into Leonard over and over again. Some of these shots would take out even great fighters. Ray’s ability to take punishment is not talked about enough. He really was a complete fighter. But just like the announcers, who have moved away from slobbering all over Ray over the last couple rounds, have said, Ray’s punches have nothing on them. The combination of his lack of power and Hagler’s iron chin means nothing he’s landing with means much of anything at all, while even Hagler’s lead jabs are hitting Ray hard.
10-9 Hagler, 77-75 Hagler
Round 9
Hagler is just teeing off at one point, and Ray’s chin is showing to be amazing. Ray is again hitting in flurries, and even landing some good hard shots in there. But Hagler is just pounding to the body and landing too hard of shots to the head to be able to give the round to Ray.
Both guys are absolutely exhausted in the round, and with good reason.
10-9 Hagler, 87-84 Hagler
Round 10
Leonard’s best round of the fight, he lands some flurries but also some hard shots, and Hagler is exhausted. Ray is too, which is why Hagler is also pounding away on the body and landing easy shots to Ray’s head too. These guys are just incredible fighters. I give this round to Ray, but it could easily swing to Hagler with how much each guy is landing their shots.
10-9 Leonard, 96-94, Hagler
Round 11
Again, Hagler lands the more significant blows throughout the round, but I think Ray lands enough here that I feel alright giving it to him.
10-9 Leonard, 105-104 Hagler
Round 12
Ray lands a ton of punches that do nothing to Hagler. Again and again Hagler lands to more powerful and thudding shots. It’s a great fight but Hagler definitely takes this round, no matter Ray’s showboating.
10-9 Hagler, 115-113 Hagler
Overall thoughts are that it was closer than I remembered, but I still really don’t see how anyone could score the fight in Leonard’s favor. If given the swing rounds, I could see it being a draw, but a win for Leonard is something I can’t possibly watch this fight and come away thinking is right.
Dont forget the criminal scorecards 115-113 hagler 115-113 leonard 118-110 leonard the last judge lmao only gave hagmer round 5 and 12
@@antonboludo8886 I was 6 years old. Didnt give a damn about boxing
I had to plan a major move from my parents' house to 3 different other residences, so I had no choice but to care about boxing, haaaaaaaa! xD
@@chrishansen2100
Hagler was otherworldly. The textbook definition of a slow-starter but when he got going, he got GOING. The conditioning, endurance, power, and discipline of this man is second to none. He could get hit dozens of times and not let up his pursuit. On the flipside, he only needed to land a couple of punches to scramble his opponent's frequencies. This man is someone you can be proud to look up to. No scandals, no failed drug tests, no excuses, no bullshit -- this man was a real warrior. Hagler was and still is my hero. I'm heartbroken I never got to meet him before his passing. RIP Marvelous.
Legend!
Stupid..watch the fight..Hagler did nothing against an aging Leonard
Hagler was a conditioned monster and legend that would obliterate all current.I can't believe little Duran went full competitive fight with him.Thats why he's my Greatest lightweight ever.Anyways Hagler is a Goat.
Shame he admitted to slapping his first wife around & taking cocaine then, isnt it ?
@@blove9199 err he got his assed kicked in this fight
2 titans both deserving of the title of champs. It was a privilege to have watched this gladiatorial match.
RIP marvellous Marvin Hagler
Sugar Ray Leonard is so damn quick man!! How fast does he snap off them 2,3,4 hooks at a time, unbelievable! 2 warriors
@@breadman9053 Crawford gonna get the work off Spence my guy
there was a lotta pop in those shots too, he was gettin his body into those hooks n torquing em. Hagler took a great punch but Leonard was an exceptional athlete.
To go the distance with Marvin after almost two years away from the ring was a remarkable achievement by Leonard. But the
judges were half blinded by the romance of that. What actually happened in the ring was not sufficient to take away Marvin`s
belts. Marvin deserved to get the decision.
Nah. Hagler deserved the loss for all of his low blows alone that were not called. Typical of Hagler. 3 losses in his career and would have been 20 if he wasn't allowed so many low blows
@@tynao2029 No, typical Leanord constantly hitting after the bell. Count them, at least a dozen shots over the fight.
Everybody's got an opinion. As far as points go, to me there's no doubt Leonard won. No doubt at all.
yes. Hagler won. I'm amazed at how many people are mesmerized by a 'pretty' fighter that dances and runs the entire time. I only saw one round that I could clearly give to Leonard. He had no stinging jab, no powerful combos, he never came close to rocking MMH.
@@monkeyb1820 Sorry, but "rocking" isn't in the scoring rule book. And my opinion has nothing to do with Leonard's style. Practically everybody, including those who believe Hagler won the fight, state that Leonard won the early rounds, so your giving one round to Leonard is clearly partisan.
Partisans on both sides view this fight through rose-colored lenses. Those who say that Leonard won almost every round or that Hagler won almost every round are obvious examples of this. Unless you're knocked down or out, a point is a point. I simply think that Leonard scored more points than Hagler.
Who the hell would dislike this classic?! Rest in peace king.
chin of Hagler is made of metal
He actually had thicker muscles on his temples. Normal people 1/4 inch. He had an inch
@ducktravisty louisiana he took hearns punches. Only if you know who hearns was
ducktravisty louisiana I saw lots of head punches from Leonard. I guess I’m not understanding what you were seeing
@@deadarmd 🤣🤣🤣
Just about to say that
What a chin Heagler had... wow. What a endurance. Hard to find today. RIP, Marveleus, we miss you.
Ong, he only fell once in his professional career, which was a slip, dude had a iron head, lol. LLMMH.
@@samsonhiggins2608 iron head😂
For me, this was the greatest fight of all time. Such a difficult fight to score as it was such a furious one. I would probably call it a draw because it was do close. RIP Marvin
So well said
@Taotaomona true!
2 more rounds and leonard wouldv dropped
Yea I would call it a draw to. Sugar won the early rounds and Marvin won the later rounds
Eso fue,, un Empate,,Leonard jamás lo derrotó.
Leonard's footwork made the difference in this match. Hagler just couldn't catch him for long, Leonard masterfully moved with ease out of harms way. Hat's off to both champion's they gave us our money's worth every time.
And his superior hand speed as well.
I agree with you 100 percent. So many stupid comments surround this fight. Like how could anyone say, Hagler won and NOT give Leonard credit for his chin? Did anybody think Leonard was going to brawl or try to smash Hagler? That did not work out for Ray in the first fight with Duran-- though it was entertaining and competitive. The game plan for Hagler, was to first make him look mortal, get in his head, and then steal a decision...executed to perfection. Ray watched him for years and waited for Marvin to slow down to a version he could beat... banking he himself would have enough left in the tank to exploit him. Remember, Leonard was diminished too-- plus a 5 year layoff. As good as his footwork was here, he was older and slower and after piecing Hagler up numerous times, he was not able to exit cleanly without getting hit. That is what made the fight competitive. As you indicated, much of Hagler's forward pressure was ineffective because he couldn't catch him and because often times when he got there, Leonard was waiting with a barrage of punches, that either matched or exceeded Hagler's output. Leonard swung for the fences without fear of big counters. At times he rough-housed him, at one point grabbing his neck, and pulling Hagler's head down.
I do recall the compubox numbers being largely in Ray's favor...I think he landed significantly more punches than Hagler threw. It was a puzzling performance by Hagler-- who went conservative in a HUGE fight again, as he did against Duran and Vito Antifuermo the first time. At times he is throwing pitter-patter punches content to score points while Leonard was swinging for the fences. He never hurt Marvin, but it was one of many things Leonard did to sway the judges. I think Ray won it outright by being the busier fighter. Again, puzzling by Hagler, because he knew of boxings politics...took him 50 fights to get a title shot when he was clearly the best middleweight in the world. He had to know he needed a finish. Puzzling indeed. Had they fought 2-3 years earlier, Hagler would have been more dangerous but Ray would have danced circles around him-- exiting without getting hit etc. It would have been boring and one-sided. They fought at the perfect time to give us one for the ages.
@@StevenSmith-zw1pd I think the fight was mostly even. But, what turned the fight in Leonard's favor, is the fact that more of his shots hit the target. They were clean shots. Besides, his hand speed was great. Despite this, Hagler kept coming. Hagler had incredible chin, taking blows and going for the target.
This was the last fight of Hagler's long, 67 fight Hall of Fame career! A career that saw Hagler hold the highest knockout percentage of all undisputed middleweight champions, at 78%!
Leonard had half as many fights at that point in his career!
People give Leonard far too much credit for winning a controversial split decision over a battle worn Champion!
@@BST-lm4po May be, but the way I see the fight, Leonard hit more clean shots and had better defense, while Hagler kept coming at him. Boxing is an art, where skills are important. Hagler, surely had better chin and the aggressor. And yes, Hagler was not in his prime for this fight.
Great fight! Fucking Leonard always hitting after the bell!!! Man, I love Hagler soooooooooo much!
Great fight, both great warriors!! Man, I miss those fights so much!
I agree! Lots of late punches by Leonard...he should have been docked points but wasn’t.
Leonard ran the whole fight too.
Richard steel did not warned Leonard hitting after the bell. Not once. Leonard should have been docked at least 2 points.
@@wc3617 He boxed clever. That's what got him the decision.
one of the greatest fights ever both guys just went in there and just had a war despite who you had winning this was the fight of the era along with hagler hearns
Leonard gano claramente. Demostro lo que es boxear, pegar y que no te peguen. Ademas fue' guapo ante un boxeador mucho mas fuerte que el. Leonard era completo, el boxeador perfecto!
@@lujoasiatico9914 Ray perido lendijo
@@lujoasiatico9914 please g.d..
Far from a great fight...Leonards running made sure of that
Leonard had it all, speed, great footwork, fast hands, and knockout power, and
I'd say the best "welterweight" of the 20 th Century. A lot of fun to watch.
His footwork in this fight was amazing, I never seen him move so fast before or after this fight.
Not better than ray robinson
Nah Marvin clear
@@northernking2604 But Hagler Gets the perfect 10
Cuando el boxeo era el mejor frente al mejor! R.i.p Marvin Hagler!
First PPV !! Worthy of the Money!! Two Great Legends!! Sugar Ray Hand Speed Made the Difference!! Both fighters took great punches kept fighting!!
Two stubborn bulls, neither gave an inch psychologically.
Leonard fought just like Ali . Even when it looked like his opponent was getting to him , he’d rally off a volley of punches to sway the judges decision- smart fighting.
Leonard Clinched way to much. He couldn't deal with Haglers offence, which is way he held(foul) the entire fight. I blame the ref for not removing points for it, and the judges for ignoring it.
@@FCar-hx6uf yes indeed - too much clutching is the real sign of a worried fighter !
@@alanclarke1320 Grabbing is a foul in boxing, Leonard grabbed the entire fight. If a wrestler throws punches in a wrestling match, he loses points until he's disqualified. As entertaining the fight was, it was very bad for boxing because of big names that followed later made a name for themselves following this tactic when facing an opponent they could not hurt. Just count how many time Leonard grabbed Hagler so the ref could step in to reset the position, if you pay attention the fight is disgusting.
@@FCar-hx6uf leonard gave him a complete and utter boxing lesson...it was a shutout
@@FCar-hx6uf ali clinched way more, especially against the smaller frazier. Personally i think p4p leonard was better. The flurries he would come out with against the ropes were insane. And his punch output was just on different levels to most other boxers
That was a draw. Both were legends.
There no way Sugar one and they should have had a rematch to bad that was Hagler last fight.
Bullshit!! Hagler won that fight!!!!!
@@RodneyRae nope. He officially lost it. And I say it was a draw.
A draw? Leonard dominated that fight in style and substance.
@@RodneyRae Yeah, riiiight.
Que boxeadores por la rechucha
Que canelo, que Mayweather....estos son de verdad
La época de oro del box
Y lo mas triste Andre's es que esos tiempos jamas volveran y te voy a decir que a sugar ry le gusta ba correr alrededor del ring
Si corría, mas no huía, si le tocaba moverse ,lo hacia ,ysi le tocaba fajarse también,en fin ,era un boxeador inteligente, no era un especulador resultadista.
Fantastic fight and incredibly difficult to score the winner. Haglers constant barrage of forward attacks versus Leonard’s amazing skills, reflexes and showy combinations. I remember watching this live and thinking Ray had just edged it and having watched it maybe twenty times since, I haven’t changed my mind. He used every trick in the book, playing to the crowd and no doubt manipulated the sentiment in the arena which may have swayed the judges, but at the heart of it was his speed of punch. When he lets those blurring flurries of punches go, they seem so much more crisp and solid than Haglers constant wearing down approach. So ultimately, it completely depends on what you look for in a fight. Brilliant contest and RIP to Mr Hagler.
Fue la noche de Leonard pues para vencer a Marvin tenía que hacer la pelea perfecta. Sin equivocarse en el planteamiento táctico que era el de ganarle en velocidad y hacer sincronizadas combinaciones, en tanto evadía o amarraba al gran campeón. Aunque la pelea fue emotiva y cerrada de principio a fin, no hay dudas de que Leonard ganó con lo justo.
LoLz, he did use every trick in the book, Leonard was TRICKY, a BAD boy.
He was gassed after 6 rds, opened his bag of tricks n beat Hagler with ring craft & heart from 7-12.
Leonard was something else.
Back in the day when the best fought the best. Gone are those days. Now its all about the mighty dollar more so than being a Champion
Those were the times when boxing was real.
Because it's not real anymore? You casual..
@@diegovillamil7442 it is different
@@gamingapplejack3525 yeah its not like......
Hell Yes!!!!!
@@diegovillamil7442 NOTHING LIKE THIS ANYMORE..NOTHING
Hell of a fight , I felt like hagler edged him out ... such is life , never leave it to the judges
Really based on what your preference for the fighter not what you witnessed.
@@GeorgeFreeman55 Ray was always favored by judges . Same goes for any olympian boxer. No one can compare a mediocre 40 fight fighter like Ray with the 120 of Duran .
@@dubongros3108 Sorry old bean saying the sentence mediocre in the same sentence as Leonard is beyond ridiculous.. The quality of fighter he fought and defeated erodes such a pitiful statement.
@@AA-od1cu so says the butthurt Hagler fan 🤣
@@neilsmith9398 it was a very close fight.. But I have always wondered why Hagler never wanted a rematch.. I think he knew Leonard was the better fighter and would've won even easier in the return.
Marvin won that, no doubt. Two awesome fighters from the best time in boxing history.
I'll second that sir!!!
I'll third that
Cap
@Pa. D You hate hagler or smth bro lol.
After looking at this again, I can see why Sugar Ray won... he threw more punches 👊and landed a lot of them.
LOL
Factual statement
Hagler fue el más completo de todos los medianos,pero no voy a cuestionar el triunfo de Leonard: sus golpes fueron más precisos y pudo salir airoso de los tenaces ataques de Marvelous. Ahora,qué orgullo siento de haber sido testigo de aquellas grandes veladas boxisticas y disfrutar a pura adrenalina de cada pelea entre los "4 fantásticos" de los gloriosos 80's: Hagler,Leonard, Hearns,Duran...
Así es soy panameño
Marvelious win
Hagler Won The Fight.
Hagler ganó la pelea.
@@eiodintotalistli8448 maybe in your dreams. Leonard won easily
Sickest fight ever. Unreal that Leonard came out of retirement and went straight at Hagler with no warmup. The energy!
Today they avoid each other and demand large sums of money
Marvin Hagler Coming Foward All the Time.Where Is His Defense.Leornard Could Evade Punches
Great Handspeed.Leornard Was The Classier of the Two.I was A Fan of Both these Fighters.I Remember Predicting that if They Were To Meet, Leonard Will Emerge Victorius although it was a Close Call.With Luv from South Africa.
Floyd would run out of ring if hagler was behind him runnmmm
William Ortega ray Leonard was great but look at him running lol , Duran fought a better fight then Leonard (most people believe hagler got robbed in this fight)
Stfu. Floyd fights in the pocket. Ray Leonard was running like a bitch. Did it against Hearns and Duran
Max Husky stfu Floyd fights against the ropes. He mastered the rope a dope
adam chapman I’m talking about ray leonard running around like his ass was on fire
What does FM jr. have to do with this? But by you mentioning him proves that obviously he's a great champion.
He was one of the heroes of my youth, like Connors, Hinault, Platini. RIP Mr. Marvelous
Rest easy champ, thanks for the memories 🥊
que pelea , que pelea , como no hay boxeadores como estos hoy en dia...
Ahí no se tiro un golpe de hombre ! K mafia!
Mas O Menos se acerca a las peleas de Saul “Canelo” Alvarez
Jajajaja, risa con sarcarsmo!!!
Ese fue un tremendo papelón, que estafa para los aficionados del boxeo. Macho Camacho casi mata a Leonard y Hagler era un fajador 100%.
Camacho enfrentó a leonard
una década después de esta pelea ,alguien va a pensar que leonard era el mismo atleta que enfrentó a hagler?sean serios .
The fight between hagler and Leonard should have been a draw. And the judge who said Leonard won the fight by such a wide margin didn't see the same fight I saw.
A draw??? Hagler was Ray's punching bag for 12 rounds! A fkn draw? 🤣🤣🤣
Sugar Ray timed the fight to perfection, haglers previous fight with mugabi took a lot out of him that was a tough fight, sugar Ray could see hagler slowing down and seizured the opportunity to beat hagler, but to me hagler was the greatest middleweight that ever lived his all round style of fighting was just phenomenal!!
Steve Alderson If they fought five years earlier, Hagler probably would have won.
Sugar Ray was smart and calculating in and out of the ring, and timed when to fight Hagler perfectly.
Bang on👍
@Brian Whitehead maybe the best boxer but hagler was best fighter no doubt!
@Brian Whitehead Leonard had been fighting behind closed doors on the quiet 😉
@Brian Whitehead don't forget he didn't fight hagler in his prime and some say he used his " 5 year retirement" as an excuse to not to fight hagler in his prime
RIP Marvellous you didnt lose it was a draw buddy
I think since Marvin was aggressor.whole fight and had Ray in trouble at times and landed the heavier punches it was clear Marvin hagler won that fight I watched it then and said and he won then and I'm saying it now hagler got ripped off
Steezy, MARVELOUS ganó x 2 puntos, Marvin creo q no le pegó una vez terminado el round, Sugar se canso de pegarle después de la campana, el reglamento dice otra cosa, también disparo mucho, ademas no les sentía las manos Marvin, en los últimos rounds parecia q le tiraba caricias xq si le pegaba fuerte podía ganarle x K.O. y eso iba en contra de los intereses mafiosos, x eso no peleo mas. se acabó, ademas nunca le dio la revancha, xq sabía q lo dejaba K.O., seguro
Leonard's shots were like love taps to Hagler.
Love Taps added Up To give Sugar Ray The Win!
Haglers punches didn't have anything on them either so it came down to points and Leonard had by far the most points.
Awww please, to this day I still say Leonard won this fight and those were not love taps Hagler felt those punches that's why he backed off a lot of times, it was a great fight, but hagler lost, and he yes he was a great fighter, but he wasn't invincible
@@mouthofprayer8180 those were actually love taps. Hagler NEVER backed off that fight. And when he would he was just taking a breath. Hagler pushed forward all night
@@mouthofprayer8180 You are blind. Leonard's punches had zero effect on Hagler. All he did was punch and run away. He did this the whole fight. Hagler was NEVER hurt by Leonard's punches. Hagler hit Leonard much harder and hurt him several times. Leonard was the media darling, that is why the judges awarded him the fight. He lost.
Great fight I remember betting on Haggler and I lost I honestly didn’t think Sugar Ray Leonard could be Haggler I actually thought it was a draw it was a super close fight.
I also thought it was a draw and I bet on Leonard
Yes my friend was a draw... But the foking mafia"
I would not have liked to be a judge for this fight.
Me too lost $ at worst it should have been a draw hagler came out righty and it cost him to the fanboy judges.i don’t think ray did enough to take a belt from a champion
@@dsaint9264 was not enough to take a belt from a master" 100% true...😎
What a great fight, I couldn`t have picked a winner. True warriors.
Watch it 3 times, 4 months apart each time & you will come back with 3 different results, win for Leonard, win for Hagler, & a draw.
Leonard, Haggler and Hearns were some real gladiators. Best fights I have ever seen.@@SPIDERM0OSE
Watching these highlights I got it 8-4 for Hagler, with 4 of those going either way. No way was that enough to take the belt from the reigning champ
You are joking, lol. Good one! Hagler gave away the first 4 rounds fighting right handed and goofing off. I honestly think the last 8 rounds were 4-4 so I had it 8-4 for Leonard or 116-112.
I don't have the time to give you as many thumbs up for your comment. It was a popularity decision. Sugar was more flash than substance and that's what sells. Marvelous will always be the greatest Middleweight of my life and that didn't change on this night either. A true warrior with a steel chin. 🙏 Rest in peace Champ you more than deserve it... The Brockton Brawler!
@@seanmeaney6154 you can call Leonard's punches flash, but the truth is, is that in this actual fight, Leonard's punches were more effective than Haglers, slow, lethargic attempts of his previous self. Sorry to say,. Hagler just wasn't the great he had been and that's a big reason Leonard came out of a long retirement to fight him. I figured Leonard would be in trouble before the fight and would have to be at his very best to even have a chance with the greatest middleweight ever. The sad thing is, is that Leonard wasn't even at his all time best, but even with the rust of a long retirement, he still had the skill to beat washed up Hagler.
@@dougdickason I'll agree with Hagler being on the back nine of his career. He may have been walking up the 18th fairway. However, Hagler was the reigning Champ. To take the belt Ray would have had to win convincingly. Not only did he fail to do that, I and most others didn't think he won at all. Just another middle finger to Marvin. He never got the respect he earned. It's nice to see that has been changing with his passing. He deserved it years ago
@@seanmeaney6154 I'm not sure you can say "most others" agree that Hagler won. I think it's mainly the people who don't like Leonard who felt that way. I was almost as big of a fan of Hagler as I was Leonard. I was about 8 when I saw Leonard win the gold medal in the Olympics and I followed his whole career and I got to see a lot of Haglers beginning with his battles with Antifuermo and Minter and then Hamsho. When the fight was announced I was worried Ray would lose and maybe badly because he had been off so long. I have watched the fight 20 times at least and have scored it closely close to 10. I have scored it being bias for Hagler and for Leonard. I have scored based on the stronger shots and ring control and ring generalship, defense,footwork, body punching, and all the things that make up a fight. I only ever had Hagler getting a draw. I didn't see Hagler dictating the fight in a dominant way. I felt that as much as Hagler tried to control the ring, Leonay used that against Hagler much of the time. The harder punches is what gets me."Oh Hagler landed the much harder shots than Rays pitter patter fluff," but I didn't see(or hear) that. If the knockout king of the middleweight division was landing all these "much harder blows" than Ray, then what was the welterweight, retired for 3 years, blown up Ray doing NOT getting knocked out, knocked down, or cut. He looked better after the fight than before, so these devastating blows Hagler landed really left their mark. I saw (and heard) Ray landing crisp combinations to the head and body. He was landing the lead right some too. The 9th round when the announcers act like Ray is out on his feet is a joke too. Hagler landed one good shot, like a hook uppercut, his best punch of the fight, and really didn't land anything much after that although the announcers would have you believe he was about to get knocked out, then Ray came blasting out of the corner with not just pitter patter but with good shots. That reminds me, I watched it many times with the sound off because the announcing really is distracting when trying to score. I felt Marvin gave away the first 4 rounds with the fourth round being a little closer. Then basically the rest of the fight was even and I wouldn't cry if someone said Hagler won the final 8 by a 5 to 3 margin although I usually had it 4-4. So most times I scored it I had it 115-113 or 116-112 for Leonard. Also this ridiculous idea that you can't win a title unless you absolutely dominate the fight is a joke to me as well. I felt Leonard did enough to win and if you want to make a rule where you have to win a unanimous decision by 4-5 rounds in each card to get the title then make that rule and start a boxing association.
Esto fué es y será el mejor combate de BOX que se haya visto honor y gloria a LEONARD Y A LA MEMORIA DEL GRAN MARAVILLA HAGLER CAMPEONATOS!!!!
People will argue about who won this fight forever. I have literally made arguments for each one winning when I'm alone😂😂😂. Awesome fight🔥🔥🔥
I watched this fight live back in 87 and have probably watched it around a hundred times give or take since. Ive watched it half speed many times and finally came to my own conclusion that Ray did win by a slight margin. Marvin missed so many punches its almost unbelievable. I saw most all these guys fight back in the 70's and 80's, pretty incredible to be able look back at some of the best fights in boxing history.
@@sierraridgereaper facts when I first seen the fight I thought hagler won has I rewatched it throughout the years I give it to ray Leonard
Leonard the only one hurt in the fight
@@Bruins-vq5ey judge it round by round.
@@jamesjohnson1522 I have..dozens of times..and just like watching it live til now i still think Hagler won
RIP Marvin Hagler a great boxer of all times.
Marvin hagler one of the best
I thought Hagler won this fight. At least a draw. Leonard ran the whole fight.
Running is still legal in boxing, my problem with Leonard is that he clinched non stop and didnt lose point for it. Its clearly stated in the rules that you cant hold the oppponent and referees wrongfully let it happen all the time. Guys like Mayweather do this all the time when fighting boxers with solid offence, and the referees let him do it without deducting points.
I'll second it. Leonard is flashy, and the refs and judges eat only Leonardnuts at Christmas 🎄
LOOOSERS CALL IT RUNNNING ,winners CALLED IT FASTER, AND SPEED.
@@FCar-hx6uf FASTER, AND SPEED ,HIS NOT RUNNING.
@@eltonreid5577 Like I said, faster, speed, non stop moving... these are not a problem at all...its all legal. Grabbing is not, and Leonard did it the entire fight.
these judges robbed us from more classic fights by robbing the marvelous one from his earned victory. Rarely have we seen a fighter so disgusted with the judges that he ended a lucrative career for it. RIP legend.
Ray won!
@@davepop8192 officially he did, how many times did you complain about bad officiating? I bet only when a fighter YOU liked lost.
@@ivo4357 ray clearly won the 1st 4 rounds. So there’s no wat Hagler won 7 out of the last 8 rounds to beat ray. I scored 115-113 ray.🤷🏽♂️ this was no robbery
The fight was definitely pretty even. Could have gone either way by a hair or even a draw. Doesn't matter at this point.
Hagler was going to retire anyway, but he did win the fight, dodgy scoring! Leonard ran for 2 minutes of every 3 minutes of a round, and put flashy shit, to win the crowd!!!! But that isn't winning the fight?? Hagler was always the aggressor pushing the fight winning atleast 2 minutes of most rounds and landing more punchers......and he LOST!!!????🤔💩💩
After this fight I stopped watching boxing for a few years. It was clearly now a show & not a fight. For anyone commenting this was the greatest fight ever ... are you serious? Throughout his career Marvin was never respected the way he should have been. This night was no exception. It was clear that Hagler was much slower now & the recent wars with Hearns & Mugabi took a lot out of him. Leonard was on & off retired & had much less miles on him. But Hagler landed many more meaningful blows throughout this fight. Leonard put on a show & stole rounds he virtually did nothing of substance in. In a decision you have to decisively beat a champion, especially when it's Hagler who should have held legendary status. Watching this still bothers me to this day. No disrespect to Leonard, but considering the quality of opponents Hagler fought I consider him the greatest fighter of my lifetime & I'm 58yrs old
I feel you but just because you hit harder doesn't mean you win. Leonard threw and landed more punches. It's about points.
I hear you Frank
@@scrapperd7827 Hagler blocked many of SRL's punches, but it's about more than just punches. It's also effective aggression, defense, ring generalship. Leonard danced and ran, Hagler came to fight. It's no surprise that many media outlets scored it for MMH. One of the judges was entirely corrupt.
I agree. We will never know the truth, but I seriously wonder if there wasn't some kind of fix going on. Hagler was in excellent physical shape. He rocked SRL with around 30 seconds left in the 5th, but he really showed no killer instinct. That is the part that is odd--how Hagler just didn't show killer instinct or really 'rush' SRL, even though it was obvious the entire time that SRL's punches had no effect on Hagler at all. I'd think that if you're MMH going against some blown-up weakpunching SRL, you'd rush him, roughhouse him a bit. But he fought a very 'subdued' type of fight.
I din’t believe Hagler would have been involved in a fixed fight. Every fight Hahker was in turned into a war. Hearns & Mugabi were the two fights before this Leonard fight. He just got old & slow, compared to when he was younger.
Absolutely magnificent
Oh my gosh, this is the real fight of the century!Pacman vs Mayweather was the mockery of the century.Pacman wanted to fight but Floyd wanted to win and so he did by hugging, running and pushing.
Leonard did thr same thing as Mayweather, so wtf are u talking about ?
Its called boxing not fighting for a reason and no one is during his reign was better at it than Mayweather. Hate the man but his boxing skill and ring IQ is above the rest. He made every fighter that was dominating other boxers look like amateurs. The proof is in the footage period!!!!!
@@MrBXP
Well said
@@michaeltrumph121 thanks 👍🏾so many talk that floyd run crap and haven't even watched his fights. Floyd waited to fight pacman when he was out of his prime. Um so I guess floyd got younger as manny aged 🤣🤦🏾♂️🤫
@@MrBXP
Many don't like his style and that is ok, but those that really understand the sport can appreciate and understand that the man is really great at what he does.
2 GREAT LEGENDS.
You can't find two boxers in any weight class today that can come close to the middle weight class of the 80s. Man I would give any thing to watch one of these guys box live. I was a teenager in the 80s.
I felt that Hagler was cheated. Ray show boated but Hagler faught. Miss 80's boxing.
I remember watching this fight and we said then and still say to this day hagler was robbed and was the better fighter..!!
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain but Ray was the smarter fighter.
@@timothylawson3262 But Hagler WON that fight (in my opinion which means nothing).....R.I.P. To M.M. Hagler, him and sugar ray robinson were THEE BEST to have EVER done it.
Ray outboxed Hagler because he could,Durran couldn't so he had to go toe to toe and lost to Marvin. Hagler was still the Greatest middle weight of the modern era
@@lockoshocko oh right , I must have been watching a different fight then cos ray could have punched haggler for a 100 rounds to no effect, yes he was a good dancer but wasn’t really a fighter..I reckon he would kill it on dancing on ice though lol 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Just reading about Hagler's passing. No wonder why he walked away from boxing. I never saw this fight but clearly from these highlights Hagler was dominant. Leonard's punches were ineffective. RIP MMH. You won that fight.
Probably one of the most sentimental & biased opinions of all time.
SRL clearly won this bout on points, watch the full fight & the best u could have given hagler as an knowledgeable observer is a draw.
There was no way on earth hagler won this fight.
Leonard the Best ever. He did this fight after two years retired and faced the Best fighter on that period. Pure talent.
But he lost tho Hagler is the real Greatest better then Ray
I look like a draw
Not even top 5.
SRR is the GOAT.
X di.s hagler was robbed and even if ray sugar,a blind man,could notice that..please..
Even stevie wonder could see the robbery tongo..
Two Legends right there💯💯💯. RIP Marvin Hagler.
Twelve rounds knocking like heavy weight's mad respect! to both of these legends!
Man! Sugar Ray Leonard combinations were freaking ferocious!
Rip peace to the gamedog Marvelous Marvin Hagler!
Wow sugar ray like ali speed, and hagler like earnie shaver
you will surely be missed MARVELOUS MH.. R.I.P.
A slight edge to Leonard. Great fight! Leonard always knew how to throw people off their regular game and frustrate them by making his opponent fight his fight.
Ya but he backed up ray did Hagler aggressor whole fight harder 😤punches also Hagler won
@@tomglorius8869 Great fighter was Hagler. Something hinky regarding his death ...IMO..
@@knockknock1246 I agree 👍was cause of death ever reavled
@@tomglorius8869 Never clearly enough for my digestion.
@@knockknock1246 well it was close however Hagler aggressor had ray in trouble few times landed harder punches I watched it live.back in the day lol
Marvin did a lot of missing in this fight, I’m not sure how people score it in his favor.
I counted punches landed myself and hagler won more than 4 rounds for sure by scoring and being agressor and doing good job while in fighting, leonard won like 4 rounds with fast flurries mainly
Edited because of misspelling
@@Boredtube2024 He missed way too much to win the fight unfortunately, wasn’t landing the cleaner hits. Good call by the judges.
Hagler outthrew and outlanded Leonard..landed more power shots and was the aggressor ..you have to take the man's title...that isn't done by running and slapping..ray won over the crowd and 1 judge (the other bought and paid for) but didn't win the fight...Vegas was never kind to Hagler while it loved Leonard as all the stipulations favored Ray.
@@makaveli3189 sugar was not hitting hagler at all lmao sugar was just throwing punches out of 20 1 landed lmao watch the fight closely
@@miracleman8022 I watched the fight closely a hundred times, ray landed the cleaner shots for sure. Hagler was throwing wild shots that hit mostly gloves.
Hagler won the fight. Leonard won the race.
No way did Hagler win, noooooooo way.
@@perserverance333 yes wayyyyyy
Best comment on this issue.
The best time in boxing history for me!!!
I still say Hagler won!💪🏻
I remember this fight so well, I was only 8 years old at the time, the problem was at the time I loved the both of them.
We don't see fight like this anymore, the 80's boxing, the ultimate era..
Great times,Great men,Great fighters!
Dont know how Leonard was able to beat Hagler coming off a long layoff. Pure greatness
Training and fighting behind closed doors is how😉
just like duran beating barkley. .it was unthinkable
Poor judging. Leonard lost that fight.
I didn't know the Marvelous one had passed. Rest in peace Mr. Hagler, you will be missed! Truly a legend.
The fights between Leonard, Hearns and Hagler were the best fights!
Leonard's footwork was something else. He literally glides in the ring.
On s'en branle de la boxe de danseuses
@David Michaels Was he really?
We want a dream between him and Pacquiao or Floyd
Ray fought brilliantly, but Marvin won clearly.
RIP to the wonderful Marvin, such a terrible shock, so so sad.
David Letterman: why do you hate SRL so much
Hagler: he has a giant ego
Letterman: this from a guy that calls himself Marvelous Marvin Hagler.
Hagler was just a regular guy who got the job done for so long....he didn't need an ego!
RIP MARVIN HAGLER,you always were the best
I remember watching that live, I was so upset that Hagler lost, he won that, but Leonard was the boxing darling of America at that time in history, and so got the win.
facts
Lie. Leonard won this clearly on point
@@Akganjah What's the point?
Back when boxing was awesome!!!!