Endgame Meta Update: TFS Ability Tuning (Well nerf, grapple melee nerf, Stasis buff)
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- This is probably the most impactful dev tuning article I've ever read, and that's not a bad thing! Here are my thoughts.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:45 Well
06:49 Bubble
09:27 Stasis
24:13 Arc
29:46 Solar
35:24 Void
39:57 Strand
49:24 Outro - Ігри
they really dug up bubble titan just to spit on it one last time
Really the change I get the least out of all of them.
Just like the Lament changes in the weapon balance.
Nerfed for absolutely no reason. Typical Bungie move.
What do you mean, don't you like the super doing the same exact thing as your bastion barricade? ☠
It better make 20 big orbs or this shit is useless.
@@sQuaTsiFieDyou can make 8 with the new melee changes I guess
thank you for the insight, here a quick summary of the video: well is completely dead aegis now suggest to always run dawnblade when running solar warlock
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@@TheAegisRelicnahh bro gotta be trolling
The gaslight is real
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*Our speedrunner opinion
These comments are so unoriginal, stupid and old
@@ninjawizard3466ah yes my youtube coment section critic opinion has arrived.
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lameass comment
Stroking my hog to this one‼️ Keep up the good work‼️
Lol unhinged comments like this always crack me up.
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@@michaelferrarini1463Nah gen alpha new wave tiktok comments or like this aren’t funny at all.
Who is that in your pfp Ino
Bubble should have kept the weapons of light so it could at least be viable compared to well. Its so incredibly bad to force an exotic for weapons just for it to still be a significantly worse well
i feel like what they need to do, is make it so that with the helm equipped, you can shoot through the bubble
@@zeke9064nah, add it to citans or whatever it's called
@@zeke9064that makes it well
What if they turned bubble into a massive barricade that you could shoot through. Essentially like you place your Banner Shield down. That way PvP doesn't get absolutely shafted by invincible Titans sniping you through a bubble. It would be way more useful than it is now IMO
@@zeke9064 Well 2.0? No thanks
13:43 I believe the Renewal Grasps change is 100% a buff. You are able to take the resist outside of the range of the duskfield now, and it lasts for a long time. You just have to use it as more of a prep tool instead of a panic tool. Stasis hunters got the JUICE with this update.
Yeah when I thought about it after making the video I do think it's a buff
Did whisper of chains (40% DR) stack with Renewal Grasps DR or did you just get the higher number?
@@jacobpinson2834Chains was modified - does not provide 40% DR. Now generates stasis shard if you have Frost Armor.
@@jacobpinson2834it did stack, it went from Resist x3 to Resist x4. So we won’t have that anymore, but the mobile resist is worth it
You will still be able to use it as a panic tool if they let the crystal spawn on top of players protecting them from 90% of every attack in the game
With the new article, Ballidorse Wrathweavers giving 36% dr on rift makes it lowkey a contender with stag. Maybe having a wellock switch to be a stasis lock to give everyone dr in the well basically just like it was pre-patch isn't entirely a throw.
Prismatic let's us be flexible with our exotics that have DR options to throw onto a Well user so I'm curious what's going to happen
@@FreshLavenderwell of radiance is not included in the prismatic subclass
@@kaemani6011maybe one wellock and one stasis lock to give dr? Idk
why sacrifice subclass and exotic, when you can sacrifice just an exotic slot by running stag on any subclass?
Balidorse completely outshines stag imo, stag is a stationary 25% DR while balidore is a roaming 13 second 36% DR that can be refreshed with stasis shards (which now also gives HP). not to mention the DR sharing with super and rift while also refreshing yours on super end. only thing stag has going is that it can be used on any subclass.
I never run well. I don’t like running solar. But, Mmm The mech in Zero Hour Master will kill you just with the overhead bombardment. You could definitely die in a well in Master+, you couldn’t just tank anything. Esp when there’s a laundry list of negative modifiers And your power lvl is limited. It wasn’t the fault of Well, it was the fault of how you designed the boss encounter. The same way, “Must have Gjallarhorn” was not the fault of Gjallarhorn, it was the design of the Skolas encounter that created the phenomenon. Hardly anybody could beat the encounter until Solar Burn week, with Gjallarhorn. Runs were going 5, 7, 10 hours and people just gave up. I remember it vividly…. Instead of fixing the design issues around bosses - they sunset the gun entirely from the franchise. Until it was time to sell it back. Yeah. They blamed Gjallarhorn too. But As long as you design raid or dungeon encounters to be the way they are… well is not the problem. Esp if you’re going to surround me with infinitely spawning snipers, while doing a DPS check with an exposed crit spot on a stationary boss that will insta-wipe the team. See: RHULK and Wrath of the Machine >>> ACTION based raid design with Movement is the solution. You cannot afford to sit still. But like 85% of encounters it’s designed to create the so-called problem. Nerfing well doesn’t change the logical solution for how you designed the activities
I remember how bad Skolas was, it is pretty annoying. With what's said in the video with how nothing can replace Well, it getting hit this hard is just going to make things worse, especially for older encounters you'll find in GM's with Well designed in mind.
Yeah, i like bosses where we dont all just stand in one safe spot and dump ammo. It just doesn’t seem very fun or skillful. Having a boss move around and actually be hard to do damage on i think is more fun. Something like nezarec, except if he jumped on you more, caused blinding, and teleport around. Maybe if he like pulled everyone towards him or something.
well was still silly broken whether encounters were designed around well or not. 30 seconds of immortality on a short cd is a boring gameplay loop that needed to be cut out of the game.
what bit of wrath of the machine was like rhulk? I vividly remember DPS spots to dump ammo in Wrath? but otherwise, I fully agree with you. they're creating the problem by designing encounters to fight stationary bosses. I do believe they've also said they design the bosses around having access to Div and Well, which would explain the ridiculous health numbers and dps spots.
@@ghanaria7996 Be careful what you wish for: the new enemy faction has a lot of crowd control attacks, pulling you towards them etc.
Damage phases are gonna be wild. With the changes to well of radiance getting pulled out of it shouldn't be an immediate death sentence anymore. Bungie know what they're doing. For the most part.
I prefer bungie telling us all the nerfs and changes weeks before TFS drops, it allows for all the upsetness to dissipate by the time the expansion drops. I still remember all the rage when the day before lightfall dropped, an article was released with all the nerfs and people were MAD.
which lead to the worst player count in Destiny's history, missing revenue by 45 %, massive layoffs, & Sony about to take over. People are fed up and are speaking with there wallets now & this past year is proof of that.
@@MrMultiPlatformBuffs and nerfs are not at all correlated to player count
Yeah these sort of articles get a day of rage and then are mostly forgot about. Nerfs are slaps to the face, pisses you off in the moment but mostly get forgotten quickly
@@MrMultiPlatform Lightfall suffered for many reasons but balance changes and nerfs is extremely low on that list lol
I really appreciate these long in-depth videos, it’s content I feel like I’ve always not had enough of, so thanks for the great vid
Glad you like them!
Great understandable analysis on the buffs and nerfs.👍
Just to dash any hopes of a buff for Howl of the Storm. Stasis crystals have a base shatter damage of 150, and Bungie explicitly said that those weren't getting an adjustment. As far as I've been able to test it's not possible to get enemy shatters (previously base 200 damage, now base 400) to inherit the buffs from the source of the Freeze status effect, and the only way to buff enemy shatter damage outside of Whisper of Fissures that I've found is to use the Warlock super.
So Howl of the Storm, while creating stasis crystals that count as melee damage because crystals do inherit the properties of their source, won't be seeing any direct buffs. What will be nice for Howl of the Storm, however, is that the crystals will now automatically detonate themselves when a player shatters a frozen enemy near them. It previously required two enemies shattering near a crystal for the crystal to break, but with the base damage of enemy shatters now being doubled it should be possible to use a single frozen enemy to shatter everything at once.
I'm also kind of banking on the improved shatter damage helping out Lance Cap builds a bunch as well. With the Lance Cap being able to make three crystals on champions and bosses I'm expecting the exotic's added damage to be much more accessible since shattering the affected champion or boss should break all of the crystals without any additional attention needed. After all, 400 base damage from the enemy and 3x150 base damage from all of the crystals will match an Ignition in terms of damage, and this can be improved with fragments. I doubt it'll make a Lance Cap build especially good at boss dps or anything, but it will be pretty nice for general neutral game potency in GMs and such.
Thank God my opinion dropped
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This was the best summary of the changes and why each matters. Thank you for not just reading the blog word for word. Love your insights.
Thanks my man, you did all I wanted in a video explaining the changes.
Thanks for the numbers.
Crying in my bubble. 😭
Our bubble lol
@@sterlingmillhollon2520Why do ppl say this
Excellent review and a level headed analysis of the last update. Love it!
:)
Thank you for clarifying the grapple point nerf; I had misunderstood it and thought Bungie had murdered Strand Hunters in their eagerness to nerf the grapple 1-2 melee combo
hope you’re having a good day aegis
I’m so glad stasis Hunter is going to feel better to use with these stasis buffs
Yay new vid
Hope for one talks about armor mods and their potency
I'm split between thinking these changes are good or bad. On one hand, bubble is now completely useless in every encounter in the game without helm but on the other hand, the stasis changes sounds like stasis will -cook- freeze real hard.
They straight up gutted behemoth titan tbh
I will take bubble being useless without helm then being entirely useless as is. At least now it’s better for something like rhulk and crota
@@DFH02 huh how?
@zeke9064 it's main/best build of spamming the crystal melee has been nuked. Also the overshield you get from the shards is way better than frost armor because of how many you are getting from the crystal spam. Classic pvp ruining great pve builds with the new shard cooldown
@@DFH02 idk running hoarfrost and having all 3 abilities make crystals still it doesn’t seem like that big of a nerf
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Clarification: gaining Frost Armor after picking up Stasis shards is an effect of each classes' Harvest aspect. The only other ways to gain Frost Armor are from the reworked Whisper of Fractures or from Exotic Armor.
2nd Note: the article confirmed that Winter's Shroud grants increased class ability regeneration from any slow. You don’t have to dodge.
3rd Note: Shatter damage being doubled is for Frozen targets only, NOT Stasis Crystals. (This is in reference to you bringing up Glacier Grenade spam and Howl of the Storm.)
Yeah I was referring to shattering targets frozen from being in contact with a generated stasis crystal
@@TheAegisRelic Gotcha, that also makes sense 👍
Small take away from the St.14 Helm is maybe you'll be able to get WoL from Edge of Action bubble. Which is cool. I guess.
Definitely shooting for a Stag + Star Eater scale class item on warlock with the well changes.
Run a dps super and still be able to support with healing rift and DR.
it amazes me that people like you spend all this time on theory crafting and mathematical predeterminations pre-patches. you deserve a subscribe bro. you're mentally insane.
Thanks :)
Nothing like watching a new aegis on my break
one more thing regarding the grapple point lingering cooldown: after the 35 something seconds you can guarantee a contingency plan by just spawning another grapple point with the navigator again, which by that time has the cooldown for creating a grapple point run out. or if you're keen on using a hunter for the grapple point creation i am certain you can have a full grapple back by that time too.
Yep! Exactly
Imo the grapple point is the only thing they should have nerfed about grapple melee, one two punch being activated with it is only really useful/impactful on titan and its killed a barely used hunter pvp build (I've genuinely been killed once by a grapple melee hunter since threaded specter came out and somehow that's the main issue they point out with grapple melee)
Edit: Not saying berserker didn't need a nerf, I think the wormgod stacking nerf is good but I would to use it too see exactly how good.
@@iKnownot999 if they really wanted to kill titan strand melee builds they should/could/would just give it the bonk hammer treatment. aka making grapple melee be unaffected by otp. which they probably will still be doing eventually
@@freddyflo7364 yep exactly, I'm quite sure I proc my OTP before I even grapple for titan so I just see that as such an unnecessary nerf to essentially hynras bow build which I really like using even if I'm not effective with it. And as I say I dont see any hunters really using grapple offensively in pvp other than myself
I feel like the stasis changes won’t end up moving the needle much, probably will just end up with you being mildly more survivable than before. Maybe new supers/abilities would breathe more life into stasis if they ever revisit the subclass after this.
Exactly. What it really is are changes to feed into prismatic that are being advertised as "hey guys, we heard you so we're reworking stasis!"
Hoping we don’t reach a state where we need to stack bubble and well again
the shatter damage might actually still be relevant on bosses, as it onlystates taht was a thing with auto shattering which as far as im aware only happends after 2 seconds of doing no extra damage. which doesnt happend that often, so we should see an addtitional increase in shatter damage to bosses most of the time
Sleeper build imo is running reworked helm of saint with edge of action. If mini bubble benefits from any of the changes made to ward then youd get all of the defensive benefits without having to swap out a damage super or heavy weapon and with helm you'd get WoL virtually on command
with bubble giving overshield while standing next to it, I could see some day one teams use both if they’re having trouble surviving in a well during damage. maybe with the ursa change of unbreakable giving super and then a swap to s14 before damage
but why run that when banner of war’s healing remains basically untouched, woven mail gives the same dr for the same price of a tangle, and things like heal clip or the new support auto rifle can give healing on any subclass
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Love the stasis changes. Wicked Implement is a lot more enticing now that it grants DR
Finally, my second opinion man has uploaded
4:53 you hit the nail exactly on the head. Well can't be replaced. The closest you can get is stacking multiple different things.
The biggest factor in convincing me how bad Well was for the game was realizing that, for a while there, the Titan exotic glaive had a better Bubble than actually running the super, and most raid bosses you're better off running Tractor Cannon than Tether, but it's impossible to come up with an idea for an exotic weapon that singlehandedly does Well's job better without being clearly overpowered. Something like that would be a worse "must have or throwing" exotic than Divinity, Gjallarhorn, and Anarchy in all their strongest iterations combined.
As a mainly Pvp player I am glad to see bubble titan get nerfed in some way. On the pve side though I do think they need to find a new niche/role for bubble
i hope this doesn’t make renewal grasps good enough to get nerfed because i’ve been enjoying my secret meta for a while now and don’t want it ruined
It wasn't mentioned that Renewal would be losing the -50% damage for enemies in the bubble; with the Frost Armor changes and Prismatic being able to use Widow's Silk for double charges, there's some potential for a very long -50% from boss, -36% incoming (with Rime, obviously less without)...before accounting for Sever -40% outgoing damage/other DR like Well of Radiance/Stag. We could potentially approach the point where Master Raid bosses are tickling us in the snowflake dome. Especially cause we are supposed to get ALL subclass Aspects through the campaign, so Touch of Winter/Widow's Silk will be the premier Duskfield spam build.
Yeah I don't think that's disappearing but enemies in the nade would only apply to swordable/melee bosses or melee builds
It's good seeing positivity in this tuning preview after hanging around in the subreddit for way too long 💀
Tempest strike and Lighting surge also avaliable in new class. So that could be some potential build in future.
Can't get enough of your level-headed and intelligent opinions on these changes. You're rapidly becoming my go-to channel for everything Destiny.
Appreciate your kind words
Frost Armor can be placed on your team....that is why it is 36% max cause you can give 13 sec to the team and then they just need to touch your DFall and get it back
For something more difficult where you’d wanna use a well still, you could have a renewal grasp hunter throw a disk field in the well to get more resistance going
Yep
Cranking them videos out
Love to see it
21:00 I'm just going to point out that frozen targets just take extra base melee damage. Since both the new fragments focus on that base melee instead of projectile melees, I'm assuming thats where the design came from.
In the new armor thing today they said it is maximum stacks from Ballidorse's which is pretty nice.
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What’s an important thing to mention is I think that double shatter bug is only one the automatic shatter. I’ll need to double check I’m pretty sure against bosses you are actively damaging this is a buff as your doing enough damage that’s activating shatter early.
Little update: so I did test this the double shatter thing is only if you don’t deal enough boss to force the shatter. Although this is inconsistent cause I think the auto shatter will activate no matter how much damage you deal if you don’t deal damage within 1 second (?)
Couldn't wait for the aegis drop on this
Instead of weapons of light being taken away and put onto Helm of Saint-14, I think that perhaps Helm of Saint-14 should improve weapons of light.
Huge agree, even if it's just an additional 5%. And let ursa give super energy back for damage blocked by bubble.
Literally all they have to do to make bubble interchangeable with well are changes like this
HOIL is still one of my favourite things to use on Arc Titan, Thruster and Thunderclap work great with it because of the short activation times so I'm glad to see the buffs to TClap and Knockout.
Speaking of which, very much looking forward to KO/Consecration/Frenzied Blade on Prismatic Titan. Come on and slam and welcome to the jam.
Lightweight Knife buff is great but it's a shame it doesn't work with Ophidia Spathe. I'm glad they acknowledged it instead of letting people find out the hard way, but I'm too set in my ways with Knife Trick and might find it hard to switch.
I hope it does end up getting synergy in the end, three knives would be *very* attractive.
_(Psst it should work with Withering Blade too.)_
it should be noted that the shatter damage increase only applies to frozen targets and not crystals (the way you explained sounds like its both and the examples of how it might effect builds also gives off this idea).
Thanks for the vid. The only thing I have to add is the comment about the double shatters on frozen bosses. It doesn't seem to always happen; I'm assuming that means damage can sometimes breaks bosses out before they automatically break out. So the removal of the double shatter and doubling of shatter damage should just make shatter damage vs bosses more consistent. Not that this matters that much, I just find it interesting.
45:50 strand titan without grapple melee still insaley good. Thats why ppl thought banner was so op when it came out oringally before ppl did the grapple combo
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I wonder if renewal grasps will sort of replace the DR well lost , since it’s the only way to give easily accessible frost armor to everyone.
Lucky pants also didn’t catch a nerf, so revenant might actually be in a pretty good place.
Still wish it could have gotten more but that’s just me. Maybe they’ll drop a busted revenant exotic one day.
Ballidorse will also be an option, between frostpulse giving frost armor and well I think we’ll be fine with the nerf lol
Honestly happy to see well nerf, we’ve played the same game since forsaken. People actually can’t just place well and not fear death
Well should still be strong in activities we aren't under light either. We'll have to see how strong the new warlock support super is. Song of Flame might just power creep it offensively.
it gives radiant from stepping inside that sustains for a few seconds outside of it. That should be great for encounters like Rhulk
I’m excited to try out something like song of flame instead. Assuming the radiant on melee hit works with this you could maintain radiant for you and nearby allies alongside have an ability spam build that enables things like demo dps Strats all while being mobile with (I’m assuming) some additional DR
Except there is still no other option for warlocks. Nova bomb still sucks, chaos reach still sucks, stasis still sucks, and strand is only used for burst dps.
@@svn5994nova bomb (vortex) will literally be almost as good as night hawk if the buff actually increases the total damage
I think for the lightning surge part, it mostly aims for prismatic subclass I feel. Prismatic can get insane uptime with melee charge with the help of fragment giving them melee energy with rapid light kills and using arcane needle. This gives them flexibility of diving into group of adds and killing them or being ranged using arcane needle. And they can have the sustain and durability when pairing with devour aspects and using repulser brace or fragment that gives them woven mail/void shield.
Arclock should just be relegated to rift and electrostatic mind spam. Whereas Lightning surge in PvE can be better utilize with Prismatic subclass.
that wisper or reversal is interesting, if it works w hunter melee and is 60+ stacks in pve, it will freeze in a single shuriken, and to have it freeze enemies in pve without the need to use both charges is something ive been wanting for a pretty long time
15:00 with winters guile they are changing it where it will automatically shatter when you hit something with it. So it works here.
Wasn't that already a thing?
@@TheAegisRelic I must be bugging. Yeah I think it is. Either way, I think someone will defo run it out of pure copium.
Honestly it feels like back in D1 where you kinda needed The Glasshouse helmet to actually have a worthwhile buff for dps. Maybe that’s what they were going for.
Anyways time to bust out Lumina.
Balidorse wrath weavers might be really good for boss phases, as you get 1. allies full stacks of frost armor 2. damage buff to super 3. yours + allies damage buff to stasis weapons
Ngl, I’m glad Well is getting nerfed. It became the modern “gjally or kick.” I’ve seen too many endgame lfgs specifically requesting well
I feel like stasis is just gonna be really good on some prismatic builds if you have the right fragments that is
The drawback of using Well is not having a damage super. Why does everyone, including Bungie, overlook that? You're trading burst damage for survivability. The changes they are implementing don't address this but instead shift the paradigm (like Starfire got changed from boss DPS to ad clear at best).
Next is exotic armor 🫣
I don't like when Bungie nerf things by making them feeling worse to use, like they did with bonk or what they're trying to do with grapple melee. I prefer 1-2 punch not working on grapple melee than having weird cooldowns.
+ I wish the bubble part have some kind of wrong wording for the Armor of Light changes, bc first time I read the post I thought it was going to be like D1 armor of light (or like weapons of light), where you kept the buff after leaving the bubble, but now Idk what they want to do.
Bungie reports that sales of the Final Shape among Warlock mains have dropped dramatically
I didnt know what about Nova Bomb, buff seems alot better than i thought now
Can't wait to see bonk titan mains migrate to knife hunter.
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Vortex nova buff isn't a 43% overall damage increase. That's implying the actual detonation does zero damage. It will be 43% * whatever the damage of the current vortex is.
All that Well nerf tells me is that I won't be trolling if I run Boots of the Assembler now
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4 videos in 1 week is crazy. Bro got put to work in the coal mines
It's bouta be five
15:00 freeze rifting feinds of the crucible
Well + banner might be the way to go now ? ( didn’t watch the full video yet don’t cook me to hard)
Maybe for some encounters
I'm thinking the same thing, seems like they want more shield titans with the buffs to shield throw and extra functionality to Ursa.
Bear titans rise up!
How is the vortex duration buff a 1:1 total damage buff? Does it have no impact damage?
Well time for hunters to bully titans into running bubble behind the well for the damage reduction for wile in the well
I cant speak for the other Stasis Subclasses but as far as Behemoth went they just took things you were already doing and combined them into easier to maintain more convenient options since you no longer have to micro manage all the Stasis Crystals you could spawn and where they are positioned which makes it less punishing the mess up.
The Stasis Shard ICD is definitely going to hurt Behemoth but its a small price to pay compared to the alternative and it really was a problem in PvP considering it was just free Overshields on round start without any interaction from your opponent AND you could run it along with Collective Action for a damage buff as well to meet certain break points and could also fuel the Elemental Charge mod quite easily.
as far as the Grapple Tangle change is concerned im curious if this will apply to regular tangles since Bungie goes through the effort to differentiate them in visual appearance and name.
Aegis 😍
Please use stasis please we beg of you!- The article
Well well well
Honestly, The sheer amount of times my Well has been wrecked is outstanding..... And even now the healing aspect of it got nuked on top of Damage resist? Some encounters can obliterate you even in the well, I'm just saying some Raids need to be relooked at
*Any close quarters Wyvern encounters
Warlocks are still on well duty, it's just worse now. Kind of bummed it wasn't enough to warrant running strand over well.
Well well well...
Aegis gotta be the best destiny 2 youtuber for information
If they're going to reduce it this much they ought to make double triple quadruple Wells stack that way you could get back up to that level if you wanted to
Ah yes, let's just make stasis hunters even better than they already are
Do you think the increased slow rate on SnS will provide a meaningful buff to warden's edge or malfeasance edge rotations? More slow = more freeze = more kinetic damage, right? I know you aren't able to test these changes yet but you do have a better understanding of how these rotations work and all
I dont think they are filling in the hole of the touch of winter glacier grenade as they say added additional crystal to the ring formation, keyword being ring. But its not an overly important detail anyway.
Maybe it's a ring of seven? We'll see
winters shroud is gonna be great on prismatic with combo flow
Add on stylish executioner and spirit of the caliban and maybe liar’s and you’re cooking
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Saint 14 makes edge of action's mini bubble provide a blinding effect and previously granted overshields aswell (now that the mini bubble provides an overshield, it isnt necessary)
if this weapons of light change grants it to every instance of the mini bubble youd be able to used weapons of light with literally any titan subclass. How is no one talking about this??
Wonder if I should expect to be kicked from all raids just for being a titan...