DOFReality H6 6DOF Motion System Review
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- 6DOF Motion for 3800usd plus shipping.
Intro: 0:00
Closer Look Motor/Gearbox assembly: 0:40
Look Inside Motor/Gearbox assembly: 2:21
Closer Look Motor Mounting Pods: 11:53
Closer Look Gas Strut Mounting Adapters: 18:12
Mounting Motor Pods to Hexagon Frame: 21:09
Hexagon Frame/Motor Pods assembled: 23:15
Closer Look Motion Controller Box: 24:16
Look Inside Controller Box: 26:25
Closer Look Cradle Assembly: 31:16
Cradle Assembly Assembled: 42:13
Gas Struts Assembled to Cradle: 43:59
Cockpit Testing Setup: 46:22
Wheelbase Construct and Flex: 50:16
H6 Cabling Connections: 54:02
Sim Racing Studio Tuning App: 56:58
Live Tuning with SRS App: 1:02:35
Driving the H6: 1:18:51
H6 Noise Test: 1:24:06
Final Thoughts: 1:26:08
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I'd really love to see you do a review with the upgraded motor/gears they now offer. It's supposed to be a much better experience.
Thanks for doing these in depth reviews Barry. As usual top shelf information.
What a timely review -- just started looking at putting together a cockpit in my new empty basement. Amazing to find your channel, there's way more stuff in this price range than I would have thought (and I'm pretty handy and can do my own DIY stuff if I have plans or CAD drawings).
your product reviews are the best
Been waiting a while for this one
Thanks for the review. Been waiting for this one for awhile. Despite the flexing wheel mount (which according to several comments here can be fixed with some tweaking/modifying) and the noise from the rod ends, this system still seems like an excellent value to me for 6DOF. I really can’t see using a full motion rig with fixed monitors though. Just seems like it would throw off the immersion. Getting ready to order my Pimax 8KX VR headset and this system is almost certainly next when the budget allows.
Hello, I'm new both to Sim motion simulators and to your channel. I just wanted to say that I'm glad I found your channel because of your content is very informative and has helped me learn more about our shared passion. I've waiting to receive my H6 simulator which should be here some time next week, Hopefully. I just received my Pimax 8k plus last week and I'm really wanting to take my experience to the next level and I believe I have fully considered all the information and options that are currently available for simulation and that's why I went with the H6. I'm looking forward to putting the simulator together and getting everything up and running and your video's will definitely help with some of that for sure. So just wanted to you have earned a subscriber and I will keep coming back for more and sharing your video's with as many people as I possibly can. Take care and thank's for all you're doing to help newbies like me to get more enjoyment and less stress out this amazing technology.
Same as this guy.
GREAT VIDEO MAN!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Barry looks like the drummer for Iron Maiden!!! Rock on you legend!!!!!! 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼
Very useful. Thank you
Great channel ! That's pretty neat for the money. I went with a Next Level Racing V3 and their GTTrack with Fanatec gear. Huge leap from from a static Open Wheeler V2. Totally worth it.
Really like that machined spring/coupler. Putting that in my engineering bag of tricks 😂
They make standardized couplers like this, any fixture with a servo drive with an inline torque sensor usually has one.
You deserve so many more subscribers!
Looking forward to a review of the P6
Great review. just built 2 P3 units last month. On the Wheel base plate, under your wheel...Check your bolt spacing for the vertical support arms. it looks like you may have them too far apart at the top, hence giving the whole base a "pre-load" spring tension. i only mention it because i did the exact same thing twice before i noticed. Considered buying optional 3rd support arm, rebuilt wheel base properly, no flex. keep up the great work
That's interesting and helpful to know!
Great video as usual by Barry, but I have to agree with Robert's comment. I have an H3 which I got roughly a month ago and it doesn't flex as much as what's shown in this video. It does look like the two bars connected to the wheel mount plate in this video are further apart than mine as well. However, I did order the stabilization bar to try and get rid of the minor flex I do have.
Yep the extra support bar helps with this -plus a lot of owners modify this area to strengthen it in different ways do it is strong enough to use a DD wheel 👍
The loudest noise comes from the gear shifters 😆
@@Heretik666 how are they modded?? can it really take the abuse of a DD???
AWESOME review, and I'm really left wanting you to do a direct comparison between the H3 and the H6. You seemed more pleased with the H3 in your H3 review. =D
This needs to happen asap so I know what to get! Haha
I only play dirt rally. I want the 6 for jumps
@@GeeCeeAte I myself backed the YawVR2 Kickstarter. It's a 3DOF with a heave platform addon coming in the future. I also do flight Sims, and the range of motion on this is incredible. You don't need that much for driving only.
„Doesn’t stand out...“ and „does what the manufacturer says it would do“ is among the most destructive criticism of a piece of hardware I‘ve heard Barry cast so far 🙈😂
likewise, normally positive
on Traction loss you are pivoting around a point in front of you ( your tail is swinging more) . With Yaw your pivot is in the middle of the plattform. You can see it in the video ;)
I wish Barry would review other things outside of sim gear because he's the most thorough reviewer I've ever seen.
nah hell naw, i don't want Barry wasting his time reviewing other things that aren't sim racing related. Who else would we have if it wasn't barry??
Great thorough review. I'm looking into getting one of the DOF systems. I'm not set on if I want the 3 DOF or 6 DOF. I do a lot of Assetto Corsa drifting, and iRacing is a blast. I love the Rallycross and dirt trucks! I have an Oculus 2 and I generally use my headphones as well, so noise would not be an issue for me. I have the same wheel base as you with different pedals. I'm getting more and more excited to getting my feet wet into motion sim. The immersion with VR is so crazy, I couldn't imagine having motion with it!
Did you ever decide on 3 vs 6?? I’ve been deciding for years but wanna pull the trigger this week. I kinda want the 6 for the heave/jumps in dirt rally
@@GeeCeeAte Sorry for the late reply, I haven't purchased one yet but I will be getting the 6 when I do get it. iRacing has some trophy trucks and dirt/road stuff that is really fun. I've also been playing a lot of Assetto Corsa Competizione, Project Cars 2, Dirt Rally 2.0, and I just bought Automobilista 2. Things haven't gone as smoothly financially and I don't want to put myself in over my head on debt. You had me sold on it.
Think I'll stick with pt actuator for now ;)
Thanks for another superb review! I think the flimsy wheel mounting & excessive flex will be a deal breaker for many including myself!... The addition of a sturdy monitor mounting option would also open it up to those of us not yet sold on current VR systems.
Still not using VR for sim is a big mistake, VR was the biggest improvement to my sim rig when i bought it, and its much cheaper than a 3 monitor setup. I have an Oculus Rift CV1 btw.
@@rehakmate VR definitely has it place, increased awareness of the cars yaw & proper depth perception are a big bonus aswell as situational awareness. I have a 32:9 monitor and I just prefer it's resolving power for distant brake markers and overall track clarity. I will have a look at this new Reverb G2 headset when it arrives and see if it can finally sway me!
@@bretttoddable I haven't heard about that headset, I'll check it out. I have a 21:9 monitor, 32:9 must be amazing, i was thinking of switching to a 32:9 but i also need 144hz and at least 1440p so there is no monitor yet that would meet my requirements.
@@bretttoddable Also track clarity is not a problem in VR, Project Cars 2 and especially Assetto Corsa looks very clear and sharp even with my CV1 even if there are better resolution headsets out there like the Vive Pro and Valve Index. The immersion makes you forget about grahics and resolution.
Welcome to my pleasure dungeon ;)
Very nice timing wow. I am about to pull the trigger on this system.
Have you considered the P6 instead?
Nice review as always! One thing that I noticed is that DOF Reality has taken the logo and brand DOF from the DOF offshore company. This is an identical logo which is not ok by any standards.
Dude you're right! It's genuinely the exact same copy, they didn't even try to change it a tiny bit! That's absolutely not acceptably at all, someone should let the off shore company know about this!
I was originally going to buy this system, but glad that I went the route of building my own. For a bit more ($11k), I was able to build my own 6DOF using PT Actuators large 450mm stroke units that ends up with a system that can do more than anything you'd ever need. It allows for super fast snappy movements for racing sims, or you can turn it up for large sweeping movements for flight sims. This system is a good unit for the price though and for entry into motion platforms. I feel though that it could have been designed better, especially with the wheel stand. It wouldn't take any more steel, but just designed differently.
A "bit" more...
@@TechShizzleRacing for what you get, it's completely worth it compared to what a competing system would cost ready to go.
I paid $13k for my ‘99 Carrera.
It is very realistic. 😎🏁
No surprises that a system that costs 3x the price is gonna be a lot higher quality.
I think this work best with VR and fly sim :)
what sim rig do you use or racing and flying sim? Thanks!
Probably I would make custom aluminum frame to fit a steering base more rigidly. If this platform can carry triple screen together, it will be perfect.
Very nice system. The latency of the movement is pretty close to the latency of your monitors so this looks to be fast enough.
Algo bump
You should put the support arms for the wheel plate close together and put the optional support bar all the way to the front of the plate. I did this and I don't have any significant flex with my CSW. I wouldn't put a DD on it though.
Regarding the pitch setting, I have the best result putting the pitch quite a bit up so it matches the slope of the track. Then you can tune the Accel and Decel pitch separately giving you more control. At least on my H3.
I am 177cm tall and I find the seating position too small for me. I had to drill some extra holes in the wheel plate to move the wheel towards me. The holes in the pedal plate for the V3 pedals are way to close for me. I have a seat slide rail but still everything does not feel right if you use the default holes. You have to do some drilling.
After seeing this review it looks like the H3 has the best price/value point to me. I am very happy with my H3 and can't live without it. I'd recommend it to anyone.
Good Price, not too big, no need for an extra rig . Needs only a seat. But the wheelbase is a shame and the bar between the legs are a nogo. Maybe they will improve that for a DD. Than I would write it on my whishlist for sure ! Thx for this review
Very nice review sir, although there is definitely something wrong with your wheel mount flex as mine is rock solid with that support bar. Maybe tighten that adjustment bolt sucker up till it cries a bit 😄
The seat mounting was by far the hardest part of my build, requiring help
I bought my H6 back in March this year and would totally recommend it ! I use mine with VR only at which it excels IMO. I don't see how having fixed screens but a moving platform would be good for the feel and immersion?
Interesting that your H6 and mine have a few differences too :-
1) The 2 motor control boxes on mine are slightly smaller and have no vents on top, but a grill at the backs of each and also yours are landscape configuration, meaning the plugs go in at the long side of each box, whereas mine are portrait
2) The gas rods are all black on yours but stainless steel shafts on mine
3) The push rods/gas rods connecting upright bars on yours have a T shape top to them, whereas mine don't. I honestly can't see what on earth those T tops with plates are even supposed to be doing? but i don't build them so what do i know
I would suggest dropping the Power/Max angle slider down to 70 as, if you notice while testing, there is a point at which, when testing the roll for instance, there's a point at beyond 70ish that the roll also has a tilt or pitch increase which muddy's the feel of the pure roll feel (IMO)
About the noise, i barely hear anything with my headphones on outside the game so it's not a issue. I can't say what the neighbours hear, but mine's in the spare bedroom with carpeted wooden floor and i didn't put the 6 feet on my frame so i don't know what effect that would have?
Would you recommend the 6 over 3 you think? I’m trying to pull the trigger. I was dead set on the 6 but now it’s 2x the price so I just wondered if the heave would be worth it for rally sims
Thanks for the review, looks like this one still needs some work before it's really a good value for the money.
I don't think they have a competitor at their price range so the value for money is quite good here
The wheel base, the way you mounted it is why it moves . if you look at 51:07 you have the right bar mounted a couple of holes back from the left bar. if you mount them side by side, (move the right one up 2 spots, and left one down 1 spot) and then on the wheel base plate, if you mount the right arm back to the holes right next to the holes you have the left arm in, and the sturdy base bar to the next holes in front of that you get pretty much no movement. you really really have to pull on it hard for it to move
He explains this in the H2 review; and said they need to be staggered. Here's the part of that video (28.59 is the location): ua-cam.com/video/9RxO4pIlg88/v-deo.html
Incredible review as always Barry. I've been waiting for this review for awhile and hoping that the H6 would pass muster under the SRG's review process. Your conclusion is spot on. 6DOF systems are expensive, and the H6 makes 6DOF accessible to a wider audience. I was going to say to people on a budget, but even the "low" price of $3,800 is a LOT of money to spend on a hobby in one chunk. My interest in the system is reduced by a couple of things. First, it is noisier than I would like (perhaps an unavoidable result of the "lower" cost). Second, and more importantly, the wheel deck is just far too unstable for my Fanatec DD1 wheelbase. Almost no one who is considering spending $3,800 plus shipping on a motion platform is going to be using an entry level wheelbase. Direct drive wheelbases are much heavier and provide much higher forces than entry level wheels. I know DOFReality is trying to make the wheel deck standard across its entire range, but they really need to redesign that arrangement for a multi-thousand dollar system. The wobbly wheel deck stands out as a glaring weakness to me. Most of the flex in the wheel deck seems to be fore and aft rather than lateral. Does that reduce your awareness of the flex while driving? I had also wondered whether the H6 would do a decent enough job at conveying road textures, and I'm happy that it appears capable on that front. I really wanted the H6 to be better. Perhaps my expectations were too high. I'm less interested now that I've seen your review (sorry DOFReality). Until I see further improvements, I'm going to continue to enjoy my four-shaker chassis simulator, which does a pretty good job of sending road texture, engine vibration, and ABS cues.
its possible..
Look at these guys setups with a DOF Reality P3. (Professionel version with stronger motors)
- With direct drive mounted: ua-cam.com/video/45vEMmBE9Pk/v-deo.html
- With triple monitors mounted: ua-cam.com/video/gz8i9lYWZcY/v-deo.html
Mitchell Weatherly most of us with these DOF machines have modded the wheel stands to easily handle DDs. These systems continue to evolve and with a few mods , pretty awesome. Support is really good with outstanding communication. It’s a fun community.. as far as noise , they are actually much quieter then competition so far 👍
@@StarBellySneetch Agree completely with everything you said. How have you modded yours?
Scott Bell several several also helped with the revised manual. Would be happy to help too if it’s h3/p3
Old post but I wanted to reply to those watching now. I’ve seen people mounting custom 80/20 rigs onto these. Even the h series have no problem throwing them around. They hard mount triples to them to and it still balances perfect
Barrrryyyyyyyyyy!!!!
If anything the noise adds to the natural immersion of a real race car with metal rattling.
SRG need some T-shirts and other merch with "So...Lets Get To It"
thenic123 excellent idea !
You can order T-shirts at SRG website , black or white colors . I did min to Canada in black couple of years ago and got it very quick :)
B. S none say “So.. let’s get to it..” with Barry’s usual grin..
Hello. I've just ordered an H6 and I'm planning to experiment with longer servo arm or horn to amp up the effects. I know I'll be messing with the geometry and it might not work correctly after that and I might max out the rod ends. Also adding a lot of torque on the gears. So I'm also going to replace those gas springs for the longer travel.. (actually I was going to add some to take my weight off the servos, because I didn't know they're included already)
I wonder if I could just change the resistance position sensors to cause a wider range of operation. Or change the input voltage of the included sensors for the same effect.
What problems have i overlooked? do you think I'll get into besides voiding any warranty.
I'm looking for about 30cm of heave. Like Chris the youtuber engineer who engineered his own and put the projects on GitHub.
I'll have to limit the other effects roll effects so it doesn't snap off rod ends. Any failure would be catastrophic. Perhaps a fall protection nylon web to the floor joists above so I cant fall should something break.
I am considering buying the H3, but will DEFINITELY re-engineer the wheel platform. Thanks for including the update for the 'stabilizer bar', but considering it's $50 and its awkward position, I am not liking what appears to be a poorly engineered 'fix'.
I'm not a fan of where they placed the mounting point on the wheel deck. I think they should re-design that completely, however I do hope it can handle the upcoming CSL DD!
Feels like I've waited for this foreeeeever lol thank you.
Kinda disappointed with how the wheel stabilizing arm thing didn't make it too solid, though... I wonder how one might fix that up without adding too much weight to the setup.
You could upgrade to the commercial motors for some more money that I’ve seen guys mount their monitors to the chassis
@@Steve_643 And how is that going to make the wheel more stable...?
And IMO monitors on rigs like these is just a bad idea... More wear and tear on the gear, and most monitors/monitor mounts aren't built to stand that kind of abuse. If the mounts for the monitors were super solid, they would be far too heavy. If they aren't, the screens would shake around with every movement and be super jarring to the eyes.
@@burger1113 Yeah, don't mount monitors to this rig-go VR. I've seen guys replace the wheelbase mount with 8020 extrusion, and it's solid as well as lightweight. They definitely need to redesign the wheelbase mount.
There's a Facebook group called DOFreality builders that has info on this. Can be a solved problem.
Looks to me like the wheel could do with 2 bars running from under the pedal plate to the underside of the wheel base?
Barry, so what is your favorite consumer priced motion platform for racing or flight sims?
Good value, afford able
Small footprint
Super like ever!! Do You know if it handles wrc 8 and 9?
Barry you should modify the frame to make it more sturdy
Wonder why they didn't make pre drilled holes for the socket head bolts to recess in? Seems like it's more complicated than it needs to be.
If you want to really CRANK down on the bolts put a spacer inside and tighten a 1/4 turn just before it breaks.
Yet another fantastic video review Barry.
You are the motion man that’s for sure.
It’s time now, to finally go about building the SFX100 system.
We are know you try to be impartial, but at some point you need to build your own and review it.
You should test the Edge 6D from G Force Factory. Nothing beats it! Not even D Box.
Keep price in mind though. Edge 6D is 2.5 more than this..
Hi Barry, could you do a follow up video to share your thoughts on how the H6 compares to the H3? Thank you for another great review, as usual!
Raymond Quon this is what I and I think a lot of other people would love.
Yeah, same question here.
In fact I just watched the review of the H3, and correct me if I got the wrong impression, but he sounded more pleased with H3 than the H6.
@@coolmountainlife It seems to me that the H3 is better for racing games and the H6 is better for flight sims. But maybe I'm wrong about that.
I own a P3 and I am considering upgrade to a P6.. but I would like to see the review as well, I am not sure if is worth to do it
Before I watched your driving impressions, my first thought when seeing the motor and how its connected to the gearbox was: SLOP! Interesting to see you have the said impression. But the cost is great, no question.
you might be able to drive each monitor with a computer for each view by adding a network switch to each computer that drives each window view or monitor,
Great video! I see on the website that they have relocation wheels for the H6 but I can't seem to find a picture of them or how they would attach. Do you have any more info on them?
yeehaw
It looks like the "traction loss" axis is yaw, but pivoting at the nose of the cockpit
I think he is the James May of Sim Racing: with long hair looks like a rowdy for Steppenwolf, with short hair like a geography teacher, he explains his passion in a very long, calm and funny but good way, he meticulously measures and explains everything. And I love it!
Noise @ 1:25 would be more informative if mixed with sim sounds at usual level.
Connecting the wheelbase center support upper end to the forward arm location should reduce flex,
as would attaching the lower flange further back.
Where do you attach a six point harness?
Hi, always top review from Mr Barry.
I have a question; I have a budget for a DOF H3 or H6 system.
In your opinion for driving games a H3 is enough or the H6 make really a huge difference? Thank you
Same question
It is said that the 3 series are better for driving due to having more range
yeah they need to upgrade the tube size to the wheel base
In your opinion what is the best full motion sim set up for the money? I've watched nearly all your reviews of full motion and don't ever see any comparisons. Looking at Sim Rig2, Dbox with P1x, DK2, Etc. Your reccomendation would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Barry great videos man! Is H6 overkill for Sim Racing where H3 is sufficient? Or are there dimensions in H6 that Sim Racing uses?
More degrees of freedom the better. The main things the H6 achieves that the H3 doesn’t is heave(up and down), surge(forward and back), and sway(left and right). The H3 only does Pitch(forward and back tilt) Roll(left/right tilt) and yaw(left/right rotation).
You mentioned that on braking you are getting forward surge, but would that give you the feeling for force on your back as you’d experience under acceleration? Shouldn’t that motion be inverted under braking? Ie - pitch forward and surge back under braking.
Is the intention of these rigs to simulate what the car is physically doing, or what you’d feel inside it?
When braking, the motion system pitches you forward because the gravity pulling you from the front resembles the g-force that is supposed to pull you forward when decelerating (inertia is the tendency to keep moving where you're already moving). HOWEVER: Some people swear that this pitch forward when braking makes them feel the back of the seat pushing their backs same as what you feel when you're accelerating (you know: your body jerks backwards and is stuck to the car seat).
I'm waiting for my NLR Motion Platform V3 to ship. I hope I didn't make a bad purchase.
you did...:-( too much money for what it does
Nlr is expensive But it is way more reliable as it is an europeen company. I saw a french guy having problem with a dof reality... They were not honnest at all with him so be carefull. What happened to this guy make me stop buying from dof reality that s to sad.
Not sure there's much to complain about noise-wise. Seems like slapping the paddles is making more noise than the chassis XD
Have you given this a go with VR? Very curious how VR and something like this would pair together. I've got this on my radar though.
This plus vr is killer, I've been doing it for about a year. My lap times aren't necessarily better ;), however I'm way more immersed.
I would like to get this for Helicopters sim, what do you think? Will bring emersion to Star Citizen and Élite Dangurs?
Do you think that rod ends could be upgraded to real car parts to reduce play?
Hi Barry, have you tired or heard if the P6 has fixed or improved that loose feeling you described? The P6 is a bit more powerful compared to H6 but I don't quite understand how much difference if any those higher numbers would make. What's your opinion based on those numbers below? Thank you sir!
Motions Range: H6 17 ° - P6 21 °
Speed 86°/s - 105 °/s
Torque 25 n/m - 28 n/m
Power (peak) H6 2200W - 2400W
+1
Can I please know which is the motor used and possibly its specifications?
Pleeeaaase
If those gas struts aren't top notch, what could you replace them with?
The rod ends are the week point of the motion system. rod end is the lowest cost to the motion base.
Nice. where can I buy the interface to make a motion sim like this?
DOF Reality H6 = force feedback for your seat
Yaw 2 = carnival ride
can you add a shifter?
Is this better value over the Motion Track Plus from Next Level Racing?
hello barry, how does the h3 compare to the h6 for racing games? 1) which one has the better TL? 2) which one is generally better for racing? why?
Does Barry ever reply to comments? I would also like an answer to your question.
What feeling do you get using the H6 versus the H3? I’ve heard people state the H3 feels like you’re rotating on a basketball. I’m assuming this is due to the pivot point but just curious on your thoughts? I’m planning on purchasing for flight Sims, I keep going back-and-forth between the 3 series and the 6 series budgeting wise.
I just upgraded from the H3 to the H6. For racing sims it was a night and day difference, but for DCS it wasn't as noticeable to be honest. Since the upgrade route was available (despite being a more expensive route overall), starting with the h3 may be more than sufficient.
@@neilxpeart How well did the H3 & the H6 feel when taking off from the Aircraft Carrier? (I'm assuming you have either the F/A-18 or the F-14). Did it provide G force sensations with the H3 or the H6?
@@arhinehart2928 I actually don't have that plane/map combo, so I can't speak to that. Taking off from a runway is the only analogous experience, and it's tricky to say regarding g sensations. It definitely didn't feel like I was taking off, like the surge acceleration setting. However since I do vr flight sim, it made the overall experience more immersive, where I didn't really recognize I was in a motion platform. However when its off, it's super noticeable. I hope that helps.
Has anyone tried making cross brace struts to connect the wheel base arms to the chassis pivots? I feel like that would be much more rigid and avoid a bar directly between your legs.
@@GWiz79 that's another good way to do it, I don't like the idea of a brace between myself and the pedals. Nice work and thanks for the reply!
You could have used ratchet straps to get pistons compressed
I know the best is 6 DOF instead of 4/3/2… but what is the most important when buying this item? Angular degrees? Engine power?
Wish was still this price
What motors and gear ratios did you upgrade to?
do you know where I could get those gearboxes?
hmm 1.5 or 2 " longer motor arm ???
Latency! Whats if any latency is there?
Thanks for the in-depth review, looks like I'll stick to dbox if I ever have the budget for that 😂
"You wonder how they can sell it such a low price point". Poor me was like gah, the fuck that is expensive. 😂
Hey, i am missing a comparison on this one to the H3 and maybe even the H2. E.g.: is the feeling of the 3DOF vom H3 better compared to this one ?
Can't decide if the conclusion was "worth it" or "not really worth it". Obviously the unit has to be built to a price, but there is also a threshold where "it's good for what it is" just isn't good enough to be anything worth having. Would love to know what side of the line it's on, and by how much.
I think it's worth it for a 6DOF system, however you have to set your expectations, understand what the frame can handle, and if it can accommodate your wants. It seems they have added the struts to the package, while increasing the price. I agree that the steering support should be included as well and not an extra cost considering where they decided to connect the mounting point. I am considering a NLR Motion Platform, probably the best seat mover, so for $2700 I can get that or for $5600 get a 6DOF system, while a D-Box system is $7000. Hard to decide and I keep changing my mind!
you fly FPV?
Can you add a computer to drive each of the monitors and then bolt the monitor to the motion base to have more realistic motion experiences. yes you can hear the rattle how much rattle or car noise dose the real car noise is.
This is what I have been waiting for. This is likely the one I will end up getting
Have you considered the P6 instead?
@@dr9299 from what I know there are the exactly the same. the P6s motors are just rated to be used more than 4 hours at a time. for arcade use. After more research I am likely going to build one myself some day from scratch. Similar to the SFX-100
The rod ends are used in automobiles and aircraft. Why not sand or grind down your washer to the thickness you need.
I'm struggling to decide between this or the P6 version (at double the price is it a good deal more robust etc) or upgrading my NLR V3 with the traction plus. Anyone tried both (unless Barry himself can chime in 😏)
Did you pull the trigger? If so what did you get?
@@stevetb7777 Nope, still trying to make up my mind. I'm about halfway there with regards to funds (although if I go the P6 route then selling my V3 would just about take me there). There's just not very many people out there that have tried both for me to get a good idea which system would suit me better.
@@keithchalmers9131 Thanks. Yup, that's what makes it so difficult. Not too many people who would be able to experience both..
I contacted them about some accessories they make i wanted to buy and modify for my NLR V3. They weren’t very nice about it.
They've significantly raised the price of the unit, would you still recommend?
Make sure you are looking at the H unit as opposed to the P unit.
I wish Barry was my dad or uncle
i will be your daddy uncle