WTF Happened to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze?
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2022
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze hit theatres almost exactly one year after its predecessor, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, hit theatres and became a surprise runaway hit, grossing $135 million at the box office. It helped that it opened at the height of “Turtlemania” when the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were riding a wave of popularity based on the line of action figures, comic books and the Saturday morning cartoon show. Feeling the need to cash in before the fad was over, New Line and Golden Harvest threw the sequel into production but notably made some changes, which included adopting a more kid-friendly tone. When the movie opened, the reaction from the kid fans was mixed. Where was Casey Jones? Why did Donatello and Raphael sound different? What’s the deal with Vanilla Ice, and why was the actress playing April O’Neil different?
On the whole, the movie was a success, although it grossed significantly less than the first film on double the budget. Still, overseas it underperformed drastically. Co-star Ernie Reyes Jr parlayed his success in the movie into another New Line action flick called Surf Ninjas. Eventually, a third Ninja Turtles movie would see the light of day - but the law of diminishing returns had kicked in. In this episode of WTF Happened to this Movie, we dig into Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze’s rushed journey to the big screen. Go Ninja Go Ninja Go! This episode of WTF Happened to this Movie is written and narrated by Mathew Plale and edited by Juan Jiminez. Do you have fond memories of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze? Let us know in the comments!
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As a kid, part 2 was my favorite. As an adult, the first one was incredible.
Parents complained the original film was too violent for their kids, so this and the 3rd film were made lighter. That was the problem with the 2nd and 3rd where they were solely like the 80s cartoon, whereas the original film worked because it found the right balance between the darker comics and lighthearted cartoon
Nail on the head. It's why the first film finds an appeal that can go beyond what would have been expected, even now. II is entirely remembered for the nostalgia alone and III....well, III is III. At least it had the turtles wearing samurai armor and being enough to say "That would look cool on an action figure".
@@dirkb9788 😂 There was absolutely nothing special about this or the even worse TMNT 3 but each his own I guess.
@@venom74799 Okay, maybe not to you.
@@dirkb9788 Or the millions of others who hated this movie 🫤
The first film closely followed the graphic novels by Eastman and Laird. The second film took a few...liberties.
My only complaint for this movie is super shredder should've been around for longer. Such a badass design.
And plus pretty anticlimactic that he gets killed by his own hand.
@@dragon_ninja_2186 for real. Literally kills himself in 20 seconds. Such a waste of all the hard work it took to make the costume
@@MrMegatron85 yeah
Kevin Nash. I wish I knew SS was running on Diesel POWER.
Plus it always annoyed me , , , Shredder was holding mutagen ooze one minute, then he is mutated with what ? grey metal ? And his clothes mutated too ? ? This movie needs a high-budget directors Re-cut edition , , first remove Vanilla Ice completely , , use some amazing CGI moments as fill in , make small 3 wheeled pedistal with a Krang brain on top , move in next to Shredder who landed on a wood dock laying on his back , , have Krang inject him with a mysterious BLUE fluid sparking his gradual change into "Super Shredder" , alter some of the Turtle/Shredder dialogue, then shredder smacks around the turtles for a bit , the Super Shredder says something like " Sorry to CUT this short but I have Bigger things to do instead of knocking you shelled freaks around" then he turns to a lower wall , shoulder-attacks and bust through wall into subway tunnels making clean get away from the turtles , , leaving door open to possible better sequels , , , , idk sounds good to me anyhoo , , ,👍👽
RIP David Warner. His scientist role was my introduction to his long career.
He was the main villain in Tron
The first movie is great and aged extremely well. I'm surprised I never see anyone react to it.
Fuck those react videos. It’s the lowest of the low.
There are reactions to the first movie on youtube.
@@wedgeantilles4712 like, millions of ‘em.
God, what amazing memories I have going to see this with my best friend. I am going to he honest here. "Go, Ninja, Go" was an absolute banger back then. That s**t SLAPPED, and anybody who was a 13 year old boy back then like me who denies that irrefutable fact are lying to themselves.
It was a great sequel! I'm 41 and this movie was awesome for a 10 year old me! I've watched it with my sons and they love it as well!!
It wasn't a perfect movie but WAY better than the remakes from the 2000s
I like it too
The animated one was really good to me.
I am 35 almost 36 and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 was one of my favorite movies as a kid and enjoyed the original as well
@@scottknode898 same I'm 36 and the arcade game was so fun
40 year old here. Yup, we loved it and the ninja rap
Why can't a movie studio give us another film similar in look and tone to the 1990 film. I thought this back in 91 and I still wonder wtf is going on
because they want to keep teenage mutant ninja turtles' kid friendly that's why the 2 sequels to the 1990 film were toned down to a lighter tone because parents complained how dark and violent the first film was
@@marlonclark1896 Seriously. It''s about Ninja Turtles...there is going to be some violent.
@@littlesongbird1 exactly i mean what do they expect from a world with mutated turtles and ninjas and stuff
because they'd make Leo a black female midget
The first movie was so much better. It dealt with adult themes that have aged well, but was still okay to watch as a kid despite some parents complaints. My wife and I still watch it every 5 years or so. Raphael's anger in the first film resonated with me even as a 6 year old. I was always Raphael when we played Turtles. The second one was fun when I was young, but I always noticed the lack of weapons and the lighter tone and less violence. It's not as easy to watch as an adult.
That's why for me, it was the sequel that started the downfall of the trilogy. It got too lighthearted. TMNT 3 was just an after thought. Someone pointed this out and a lot of folks can get angry all they want but at least the third one brought back out their weapons and had better fight choreography. Yeah, it may be 3 fight sequences but it was 3 long fight sequences despite the film not being up to par with the previous films.
True💯
My favorite turtle movie ever. I watched it constantly growing up as a teenager. It was the funniest one also. Just such a fun movie. I still quote it to this day.
The original 1990 movie is soooo much better. It's aged very well and completely watchable as an adult. But the sequel is, while still fun, much sillier.
Honestly, I loved secret of the ooze as a kid. It felt more true to the animated series with its silliness while the first movie was more based on the comics with its dark tone.
I just wish TMNT 3 was done better justice by adding better story, and adding new villains and hero’s based of the cartoon and action figures like Krang or Baxter Stockman and his robotic Mousers.
Bottom line, it’s best to give the fans what they want since they’re the ones helping the franchise make the money.
I agree. The more lighthearted and comedic take like the cartoon was what we all wanted. The turtles were a fun thing, with some fighting bad guys.
Same. I loved the hell out of this one, and the toys were pretty cool. The first film is great, but I think I remember it being really slow and visually dark, so I watched this one more often.
@@ScooterinAB I think what people forget is that the first one was dark because it was more comic book driven. It's almost identical to the comics. Some folks complained it was too dark so this sequel toned everything down to the cartoon level.
@@terryrocks2j True, but I didn't mean I had an issue with the content being mature and grim. I meant that it was actually a dark movie. I remember it being hard to see what was happening.
Agreed!
There’s one small change that I think would’ve drastically improved the film.
The issue with this is that unlike the first film, there’s no major arc for any of the characters.
In the original, it was Raphael learning how dangerous his anger is, and learning to fit in as a member of a team, as opposed to being by himself
One major missed opportunity in Secret of the Ooze, is not giving Donatello an arc despite setting up one.
When the turtles are told they were accidents, Donatello takes it the hardest, believing they were special, but having to accept they aren’t.
And it kind of ends there.
Donatello learning this, questioning not only their purpose as a whole, but also his purpose in it.
He starts to see himself as nerdy one, with the lamest weapon, the worst one liners, who just doesn’t fit in with the rest.
Donatello is the one who walks out on the group, learning on his own who he is,
The Other turtles being defeated in the junkyard demonstrating how invaluable Donatello was,
And at the last minute, Donatello shows up, believing in himself, and single-handedly rescuing his brothers with his brain, Bo staff, and help from Splinter,
The moral being, the best part of yourself is highlighted by having those around you who celebrate what makes you special.
Agreed the movie feels rushed should of been a part 1 of 2
Love this and the original more than any other TMNT movie ever made.
I'm sure it's nostalgia, but I LOVED the whole Turtle trilogy as a kid. Particularly the second one because of Super Shredder.
Secret of the Ooze was my first TMNT as a kid. Loved it.
I watched it so much that the VHS tape started to mess up. Loved the Ninja rap and Super Shredder. :)
I love the secret of the ooze sequel. I mean for the Vanilla Ice moment in the film alone.
I liked the 2nd movie but I really missed the original suits and the gritty dark feeling of the first movie, they just made it too kid friendly. The first felt much more adult and it was nice being a kid and getting to watch something like that.
Yes I strongly agree🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great sequel. Was definitely lighter. In the first movie, the Foot clan offered kids a Chuck E. Cheese that you could skate and pick up a pack of smokes. The foot had a junk yard and scientist created mutants in this movie. A great pairing to the movie would be pizza. Moment to reflect. Classic.
I’m dead with the chuck e cheese comment…😂
I love the first two Ninja Turtles movies and I revisited them last week.
I'm glad we'll always have the darkness of TMNT 1 and Burton's Batman 1989.
I just want to say the content lately has been top tier. Keep up the good work!
I just watched the movie 4 days ago. I just realized Michael Jai White made a cameo in the movie.
WTF HAPPENED TO IT?!? It was awesome and should have won (and still should win) the Oscar for greatest movie of all-time!
Sean, you crazy fool! You're always talking about movies, even on other content creators videos! Great stuff, never change!
@@azhorsley 🔥🔥🔥🔥
The props in this movie always amazed me as a kid, I wanted all of it, especially the ooze tubes. I didn't notice any faults as a kid and we loved it. I mean, compared to the third one, this is pretty decent still lol. Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go
I know it'll never happen, but I would love to see a live action (or at this point even CGI) movie that does Michael Zulli's 3 issue story arc of the original run of the comic. Eastman and Laird were way too busy with the cartoon, films, and toys to write the comics during the late 80s and early 90's so there were other writers and almost half of the comics from the initial run don't follow a linear story. Donatello questioning about him and his brothers (as well as heir Dad's purpose) is a good subject that the Michael Zulli issues focuses on, as one of the turtles is near death from their battle with the foot clan, and he loses one of his arms. We then follow him through a journey that's not quite heaven or hell, while the remaining turtles and splinter try to hide from Shredder. It was really dark and had great artwork, as the turtles looked way more primal. They didn't even wear headbands. And like every issue of the original ru, it's in black and white.
Your tmnt videos are some of my favorites. COWABUNGA!!!!
Good job on mixing up their names you had me for a second.haha😂
I loved part 2. I’m 39 now
As a 38 yr that grew up a TMNT fan as a kid, I love the first and 2nd movie. Yes the og is a better movie and more serious but the 2nd is a classic in its own way that had tones more along the lines of the cartoon. The 3rd is meh and the animated TMNT is pretty good also.
Those crap show, bootleg knockoff, husky of the turtles movies that are the bay films DON'T count in my mind.
They don’t . Good take bro. I loved all 3 movies
I think Meh is to much praise for the 3rd one lol
TMNT 2 is an early 90s time capsule. I was 10 and it was awesome.
Instead of fight scenes we got a vanilla ice video w/the turtles dancing 😞! You've made me remember time in my life I can't get back..... waste of time!!!
I think I might have watched this more than any other movie in my life, I still miss the cereal.
R.I.P. David Warner. You were a classy talent
Whoa. This movie had popped into my head a few hours ago. And to my surprise, this video was just uploaded yesterday.
In the UK they renamed the cartoon show to Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles because the conotations of ninja and their use of weapons you could make in the home was excessive to the BBFC. We never even had a cut of Enter the Dragon with the nunchucks at that point in time. It was relaxed later but was spawned from early "video nasties", particularly any that used crossbows.
Turtles 2 was actually my first tmnt media ever, well that and the GameCube game.
As a kid and in my late 30’s I actually loved the sequel. Though It was lighten up a little to much and you can tell they cut out some fan favorite characters for budget and time reasons. I still really enjoyed it and its better then other “meh” live action cartoon sequels.
That’s what they fucked up They underestimated the popularity of the ninja turtles They had time to wait two or three years to come out with another movie I would’ve rather had a good movie than a movie with Vanilla Ice They should’ve gotten Tone Loc💯
I remember 10 year old me watching this in the theater being disappointed. Although I will say Michaelangelo had some hilarious lines.
They all did
I was so happy when these movies came out on Blu Ray. I had them on VHS as a child. Brought back good memories!
Holy crap I didn't know splinter was voiced by elmo. My vhs copies of these movies were played so much I am surprised they didn't stop working
This was my favorite of the 3 when I was a kid. I had no clue about all the drama around it. Lol
For something that was rushed, heavily toned down and cobbled together...I still love this movie. A step down from the first, sure, but its negative reputation is far too overblown.
Germany also got the edited UK version of both the TV show and the movies. All three Ninja Turtles movies were additionally censored in germany, but it was a weird kind of censorship. At the time the german ratings board really reacted allergic to anything related to martial arts, it was so bad that even a low violence comedy like Jackie Chan's City Hunter was rated 18+ after some cuts. So for the Turtles to get the 12+ rating they edited every fight scene with cartoon sounds to make them feel less violent.
I met Judith Hoag a couple years ago and she was the nicest lady. I really enjoyed talking with her. She’s the true April.
As someone from the UK I can confirm that the movie cuts we got over here absolutely suck. I never saw the proper cut of commando until I was about 27 and I was amazed what I'd been missing all those times I'd seen it before.
Even though they toned it down compared to the first, it's still fun. Definitely was as a kid. Love the part where splinter saves them in the junkyard, and shredder loses his s*it. "GET THEEEM!!"
2:40 *WRONG-O.* Their ninja skills were taught by Splinter
The TMNT ice cream with the bubble gum eyes were my go-to!
Should have done this for the 3rd movie. This is a classic
Where’d you get the end theme song track from?! I want to hear the full version!
Kid me and adult me still love these first two films and even the third film for nostalgia. But now I’m older, I’m sad that we didn’t get a proper sequel with the weapons and Krang. Or even Baxter stockman and his mouser’s. Maybe one day they will give us a Halloween style reboot and ignore 2 or just 3 and give us a proper dark sequel… it would make so much money if they just did it right!!
I love the third too
Some where there is still a ninja going to this very day.
I didn't mind the changes in the movie. The costumes still looked great, and the locations were awesome. I found out through film school that a lot of the teachers work on it's Wilmington locations.
Ive watched this a million times as a kid. I have the preview trailers memorized from the VHS. I’ve glad to say I’ve now watched it 2million times with my 3 year old son. He likes part 1 but is definitely aware it is too violent and gets scared a bit. I love this movie. Great video man 👍🏼
Me & my brother still loved this movie as kids, we hated the 3rd one though.
Yeah lmao i didnt liked the change of setting- that whole time travel to Japan was dumb, wished they stayed in NYC.
At least thats why i didnt liked it as a kid.
I remember going to see this in a pokey little one screen movie theater
Gotta know where you can find the Turtles theme remix played at the end!
11:06 where is that from? Is that from some game or something? It’s clearly animated but nothing I could recognize
I loved the TMNT cartoon, i even had a load of them on VHS tape & watched em till the tape wore out.
Man I loved this movie as a kid…up there with the land before time and Buffy for most rewatched movie 😂
So much could’ve been solved by simply saying, “if they have a problem with it, that’s on them. F**k’em”, and stayed with the style of the first flick. They would’ve made a lot more money, because good storytelling with stakes sell at any age.
Rest In Peace David warner
My mom bought me all 3. I remember her taking me to the drive in movies to watch them as well. I had almost every toy they came out with. I had it all. So glad my mom wasn’t one of those parents. She thought they were cool too!
I had no idea, the second film was done so close after the first one, which is pretty common practice nowadays but the difference being now films actually have bigger budgets.
They rushed it into production because TMNT was on fire at the time and they wanted to cash in on a sequel before the trend passed.
The only thing that really bothered me a lot about the movie as a kid when I saw it for the first time was that Corey Feldman wasn't able to voice Donetello. Adam just didn't fit with his voice imo.
Ahh man, my childhood 🤗
DON'T YOU CALL THE SHREDDER A RECYCLED VILLAIN!
As a kid I loved the movie. As an adult I appreciate this movie. Slightly too goofy but it worked.
It’s a fun movie, with much laughs, and a decent story. My only issue is bebop and rocksteady wasn’t in it but I understand why
I wished ooz 2 had a slightly better story and introduced those other villains from the comics and cartoon but none the less the movie was great.
I also appreciate the 3rd movie even though it was the lesser of the first 2. The third should have introduced those other villains but I won’t complain
Found the soundtrack at a book sale at my local library lol
Was gonna say, "Homie, if you're seeing a character named Caravagio, you're reading Locke & Key."
I ruined the vhs of this movie as a kid because I watched it so much. Now I watch it on DVD with my son and he loves it just as much as I did.
The only thing that shocked me was Elmo voiced Master Splinter.
Other than recastings, Casey being missing, and lack of violence; I absolutely loved this film as a kid!
2:39 The turtles’ ninja skills don’t come from the ooze. They were taught to them by their rat sensei Splinter. The first movie makes that pretty damn clear.
The right way to bring the Ninja Turtles to life:
· Hire 4 five-feet-tall Olympic stuntman and train them in Ninjitsu, skating, bodybuilding, and dancing.
· Don't put creepy, heavy, and hot animatronic suits on the stuntmen. Instead, use green body-paint and turtle prosthetics for the head, hands, feet, and shells.
· Don't make any crappy sequels.
Nah. This was my favorite one of the 3. I watched it all the time. And still throw it on at times. It's a fun watch.
Me too. I think I like this one more. It’s just funny
@@MoeJaxon yea. It was one of the first horror or "horror" movies I was shown.
I didn't realize it was in 1990? Feels like it wasn't that long ago since I seen it in the theaters.
Yeah tokka & razzor at first was like WTF is this to me however after a second watch they did grow on me & I wanna say they have become a bit of a fan favorite as time went on
I loved the cartoon, already had a few action figures and then the neighbor came up with a bootleg of TMNT II. So this was the first TMNT movie I saw. And I absolutely loved the movie. I will have watched it at least 6 times that weekend. A while later we rented TMNT I. And although I think this is definitely the best TMNT movie right now. I liked TMNT II much more at the time. Of course it has everything to do with age. The 9 year old Dirk found the Farm part in TMNT I just boring and all he wanted was fight scenes with his favorite heroes. He didn't notice the violence in part 1 (logical if you've already seen Childs Play, The Terminator, Commando, Halloween etc etc) and so I thought TMNT II was at least equal if not more fun in terms of action. Now I like TMNT I better but TMNT II remains special to me and still a very nice movie that I now watch with my 7 year old daughter.
Of course I loved this when I was a kid but as an adult i feel let down, especially after finding out about the Utrom reveal that was in the script.
I always assumed Dr Perry was supposed to be Baxter stockman ..never heard about him being kraang
Honestly, I kind of prefer Tokka & Rahzar. Plus they were right, they definitely made for some cool toys for us kids!
Beebop & Rocksteady are fun too, but I had no problem with them being left out.
Me neither
This movie should have been Shredder taking the ooze within the first 10 minutes of the movie and the Turtles trying to take him down
I didn't like the 2nd movie. But I did remember buying a comic book adaptation of Secret of the Ooze, it was a much better and a lot darker and more serious than the movie.
Despite what the hipsters will tell ya, this movie was great back then and still holds up. How do I know? My dad will watch it and won't fall asleep. I dunno if it's the memories (his wallet and the many trips he'd do to find the toys) or if he just likes the movie, but he'll watch the whole thing. He fell asleep during No Way Home, and he's a huge Spiderman fan...so this movie must have something special.
its shorter.
That's not a good argument for this movie. We don't know your daddy. XD
The “hipsters” are the people who can’t let go of their nostalgia. This movie sucked.
That's like...your opinion, man. I'll allow it.@@WorldwideWyatt
You don't need to, but Imma use it anyway.@@Treyworld
man saw this movie multi times growing up in the 90s. The sequel was very kiddish the first movie was my favorite.
We really need to see a video for Turtles 3
can you do wtf happened to tmnt 3?
Have you been playing the Shredder's Revenge game?
10:17 Man, they weren't messing around with April O'Neil there.
I thought the same thing. Exposed cleavage and in bondage. This is for kids, right guys? The 90's were a different time.
My favorite, I loved super shredder. I was so young so I loved the cheese
I was apart of turtle mania when this came out as a kid. And was extra excited for the movie. And left the movie theater as a kid disappointed.. Knowing that it was too... Soft. 😂 I was like why they joking too much and not fighting.
I legit saw this when I was 7
the second movie came out early 1992 in Germany, you had to be 12 to watch it... by the time it came out I was 11 and couldnt watch it in cinema.
Imagine if they wouldn't have listened to parents and also brought Steve Barron back.
I get the Bebop and Rocksteady love but I always secretly preferred Tokka and Rahzar largely due to this movie as a kid.
Siskel & Ebert giving this 1 star shows just how useless film critics are.
That would be like food critics rating Gerber baby food for the sophisticated pallet.
TMNT was never created to compete with the likes of Citizen Kane or Seven Samurai
It's a roller coaster for kids ... Or the inner kid in us all. Rate it on that purpose alone
Who cares about ooze gelatin, the real banger was the limited edition Hostess Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Pies. They were green with some kind of pudding inside.
I liked the second movie, it wasn’t in the same League as the first but it’s still a solid childhood movie that anyone can watch
This was one of my favorite movies growing up idgaf lol
Me too