Tim burton is basically if Edgar Allen Poe was a visual artist. there's something so unique about his designs that i've not really seen replicated elsewhere. i love his dark surrealist vibe
@@ericg1100 No he isn’t. He is certainly influenced by it, as well as by cartoonists like Edward Gorey and Charles Addams, but Burton’s synthesis of these influences is totally singular and unmistakable as his own style. You can’t confuse his work with any of those other impressions.
It's a shame that Disney Channel buried it. Sure, lots of kids were traumatized by Watcher in the Woods and Something Wicked This Way Comes, but they got a chance to flourish on TV every Halloween and become beloved cult classics. This could've done the same. And just as I looked forward to those reruns, I'm always excited to see a new upload from The Other Vault.
Yeah well if Betty Davis wasn't so damn good, I wouldn't have been terrified by Watcher. I have watched it since but still to much. Book's real good though.
For years there were copies floating around on VHS recorded from the original 1983 airing, I first saw one in '85 or '86. There's bound to be a tape still out there in the wild in someone's parents attic, commercials and all. In the 80's especially the early 80's "whatever aired on cable, it most definitely got recorded to VCR and someone has probably got an unknown quantity. Nobody had cable but 1 maybe 2 kids in your neighborhood back then so everything got recorded to VCR and passed around. I mean EVERYTHING. It was kind of a big deal. To be perfectly fair tho, sadly, it was also completely common to record over stuff because new tapes were expensive. Especially for middle schoolers
I just watched it and couldn't disagree more. Crazy to think it aired on Disney. Best way to describe it would be cringe fest. If it had been done in the style of Vincent with competent actors it could have been amazing. Buuuut it wasn't.
Look out! Look out! Pink elephants on parade Here they come! Hippety hoppety They're here and there Pink elephants ev'rywhere Look out! Look out! They're walking around the bed On their head Clippety cloppety Arrayed in braid Pink elephants on parade What'll I do? What'll I do? What an unusual view! I could stand the sight of worms And look at microscopic germs But technicolor pachyderms Is really to much for me I am not the type to faint When things are odd or things are quaint But seeing things you know that ain't Can certainly give you an awful fright! What a sight! Chase 'em away! Chase 'em away! I'm afraid need your aid Pink elephants on parade! Pink elephants! Pink elephants!
No, I was terrified of that scene as a kid. I never liked Dumbo much, but I vividly remember b int scared of that scene. I never knew that was Tim Burton
@@TotallyxKatieefunny i had a totally different experience, dumbo was boring but id watch the pink elephant scene over and over! Same with huffalumps and woozles!✨
I can't say I immediately loved Nightmare Before Christmas when it came out in 1993 and I was eight. The imagery was strange, none of the characters were particularly cute, and the themes hinted at an existential angst that didn't really jive with the Disney stuff I was used to. But I did immediately respect it. You just knew there was something special about it. And unique. And artistic. And the music was good on a level I wasn't prepared for. The theater wasn't very full that day at all. And the fact that we still chose to see it felt like a turning point in maturity for some reason. Tim speaks directly to that inner loneliness you weren't really supposed to admit or acknowledge back then. And that was kind of exciting.
@@kitsmashing3267 Yeah I didn't realize how much Burton stole from German Expressionism until fairly recently. Seeing Metropolis was definitely eye opening. Sellick maybe didn't get enough credit initially, but I think people are well aware what a great film maker he is now. Nightmare is definitely a co-production. Tim Burton provides a lot of the imagery and concepts, Henry Sellick gives everything a cadence and movement that Burton may have lacked at the time. And Danny Elfman provides a lot of the magic. All movies are definitely a team effort.
"The Nightmare Before Christmas" was a lot like "Alice in Wonderland" originally in that they both BOMBED horribly in the box-office; however, it was BECAUSE of the cult-following that slowly but surely accumulated over the years that made BOTH of the franchises into colossal-sized classics now! When I was a little boy, "The Nightmare Before Christmas" to me was incredible! I immediately fell in love with it! Halloween AND Christmas equally having their showing was just what I was honestly waiting for since who knows how long; and also, I always WANTED to have a "holiday leader" for Halloween, and compared to the other holidays, Halloween NEVER had an official leader.......until that very point in history! Ever since I was able to look back and say, "Yes, there IS a holiday leader for Halloween; and that person is Jack Skellington - "The Pumpkin King"!" NOBODY could tell me otherwise; and believe me, way back when they tried over and over again.......and they FAILED to disprove my theory!
I love Jack too, but maybe you forget, or aren't old enough to remember, "It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown." That was the 70's childrens' movie to look forward to every year 😊❤@@KingMickeyMouseOoO
If young Burton was around today, he'd probably upload his art daily online, his short films would be on UA-cam, and instead of working at Disney, he'd probably have better appreciation working with an arthouse studio like A24 with his surreal style that would be better appreciated sooner.
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure remains absolutely hysterical to this day. I remember laughing out loud in the theater, and even more so now when I l'm old enough to understand more of the jokes and appreciate the editing.
After the movie came out I found myself in San Antonio in basic training. When I finally got my day pass to leave the base I went to San Antonio to find the Alamo. I found it on a street in the heart of the city. Because of Pee Wees big adventure I expected it to be surrounded by desert 😂😂😂😂
@@Ave_Satana666 Herman was arrested for something people have done in the USA trillions of times in front of a computer screen, starting from the mid-90s. And to a lesser extent, in front of a TV and VCR.
Goes to show you can succeed in life by sleeping all day and churning out absolute garbage, as long as you know someone in the biz. Then go down in history as a legend for being an edgy weirdo
This is one of my favorite Tim Burton films. I love his early work, this whole short film is like his sketch books come to life, it's his style and imagination 100 %
@@JadyLester YES! It is mainly because of Rich's ability to bring Tim's ideas to life. As much as I love Tim's style, throughout his career his success and recognition has always been due to the teams of people who can represent his style in sets, costumes, makeup, etc. His earliest projects just had the best teams of creative people.
I would be willing to bet that Dan-Dan the Gingerbread Man is meant to be a reference to Danny Elfman since Tim was an Oingo Boingo fan before working with Danny for Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure.
I think Dan Dan was at least partly inspired by Disney's "The Story of the Gingerbread Man". This was a 1969 children's book accompanied by a recording of the story. On the other side of the record from the story was a song called "The Gingerbread Man" (credited to Camarata), and this song was positively nightmarish, with its speeded-up vocal, weird harmonic shifts, and endless looping structure. Here's the song: ua-cam.com/video/IgqIwiN3xvQ/v-deo.html
The shape of the witches house resembles the hill that jack skellington... there's glimpses of the sand monster from Beetlejuice too.. it's so cool to watch this and this whole episode is very well done and informative!! Great narration
I’ve always loved Tim burtons creativity and how he expresses himself through his work. It resonates with me because I myself am strange and unusual. I love it.
"The Abominable Dr. Phibes" and "Dr. Phibes Rises Again" are supposed to be great films.... Only ever saw them when I was about 12 or 14 on televison, but I missed the beginning AND might have seen both.... Have to check them out..... This time, PROPERLY.
The Disney Corporation spent much time trying to figure out a new identity after Walt died, so they hired young new visionaries. Fast forward to 2020 when they were told to create a specific new identity, and . . . . . (no young new visionaries - just DEI reboots).
Tim Burton is absolutely brilliant and I love his films, especially fond of Edward Scissorhands and Nightmare before Christmas. Nothing but respect for the guy.
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Tim Burton rebelled against his old man. Burton senior was a very athletic man and Tim Burton did that in high school, he was a member of swin team, his dad approved of that. Young Tim Burton did wrestling in college. But he found his father's ambition stifling. Then Tim Burton rebelled. But his father approved of him going to college. But Burton Sr may not have understood animation. I saw an excellent documentary where his mother filled in a lot of those background details. Burton and his dad reconciled towards the end of Burtons dad's life. Big fish is dedicated to Burtons old man. Lot of his later work is family friendly. Big eyes. Wednesday is a return to the much darker Burton of old. The scene where Wednesday get revenge on pugsleys tormentors by flooding the swimming pool with piranhas is nasty and Catherine zeta Jones plays the enemy in morticia
Wow, I didn't know about this. That's one of the scariest witches I have ever seen. And I see a resemblance to Willy Wonka: The welcoming of the children, the high pitch voice, the goggles, the pale face. Even the dialogue.
80s Disney Channel as a whole is a fever dream. I've made a couple episodes of commercials from it for my Retrosyde Archive channel. I've never heard of most of the shows and movies they aired in that time, and I've never heard anyone talk about them either. The channel really started taking off from their early 90s rebranding, so 80s Disney Channel weirdness typically gets buried.
Those little promo cards for itself with the logo were always kind of cool and surreal. All the cable channels had good ones there for a while. Big part of the fun...for some reason.
So fun fact, it was either the Vincent short or the claymation Frankenweenie that was bundled on a special edition VHS of Nightmare before Christmas. It was a pivotal part of my youth as I loved Burton films, classic Vincent Price films, and practical effects in movies. It was I think one of those post credits things that I found on total accident because the VHS was from the local library and somebody hadn't rewound properly.
I actually went to that art exhibit and got to witness a screening of this film like 15 years ago 🙂 The exhibit was amazing and featured a lot of his lesser known works including hand made "stain boy" dioramas, his sketchbooks and disney pieces. It also showcased the pumpkin king and edward scissorhands costumes and cases full of claymation heads with different expressions from corpse bride
Uh (and sorry if I get off topic here) I weirdly remember there were some Tomy Toys here in this special (and Tomy Toys were featured in the 1-hour disney channel documentary, "Where the Toys Come From" from 1983) Coincidentally, Tomy Toys were an opening day sponsor of Tokyo Disneyland for their Western Railroad Expedition attraction, and a mini train toy set was featured in the documentary. (WRE is an interesting case as that was a ride as opposed to a form of in-park transportation because of Japanese laws requiring that trains to ticket people. Hence why the Tokyo Disney Resort monorail (which opened with Tokyo Disney Sea) requires a ticket to board.) Anywho, Where the Toys Come From is something you ought to cover next as it's weirdly not on Disney Plus and honestly serves as a precursor to Toy Story and features an English cover of a 1980s Citypop tune.
I watched it years ago here with commercials from the time. It's one of my favorites since I prefer his old art. Cute, nostalgic, fun designs; the steady pace with commercials felt very cozy. I recommend falling asleep with it.
I feel like Tim Burton instead of working for Disney he should word for A24 films or Warner Bros because his vision on this kinda horror style needs to be recognized and I looked at his concept art and wow it is amazing. Tim Burton has a terrifying but great vision and I am looking forward to see more of his movies
The reason why Tim Burton couldn't draw foxes,is due to the fact that ppl who are into Goth/horror don't draw cute things. How that I know that? I was one of those artists,of course no big time company even offered to hire me. Probably cause I never went to collage.
Edward Scissorhands was one of the first movies I remember seeing in theaters as a kid. I was 4. I loved it then and love it now. I was a weird kid, though. My dad told me that we went to an amusement park and the crypt keeper was there, and I was like, “Daddy! Daddy! Can I keep him?” I don’t remember this, but I do believe it because I remember loving Tales from the Crypt (but mainly just because of the crypt keeper; the rest was boring to me).
That which was fucking nightmarish, the whole thing looked like the kind of feverish nightmares I’d have as a kid. The Frankenweekie short is a very likeable movie, similar feel to Ed Wood, one of his best films. His more recent CGI filled movies really are a low point, especially the Alice movies
I introduced my two younger kids to Tim's NBC movie in 2015 and that sparked a strong interest in his productions. They have watched all of his movies so many times they know the scripts and songs, especially their initial favorite, NBC by heart.
I didn’t understand his method & style ate first, but when I watched a bunch of his movies & animations, it reminded me of what I did for a time when my kids were young. For fun, we would occasionally make an animated clay video, or a “Chin” video.
This is amazing I never anything about Tim Burton but I was heavily huge fan of his movies from the late 80s and 90s like the Batman ones beetlejuice nightmare before Christmas so finding out how much l relate to his actual story esp with me writing my very stories to adapt into movies is awesome fr so thanks for this content !! :))
Walt Disney's brother held my mom when she was a baby. She was a miracle baby born in vallejo in 1967 and was in the news papers a bunch because she was inside her dead mother for 7 minutes before they got her out and she was premature.
Wow This was such a cool video. I had no idea of all the struggles Tim went through. You can tell he went through a lot of anger and pain with that first major project. He’s very abstract but Jeez that project was all over the place. He really has come a long way.
Burton creating the Vincent film then later on him having Vincent Price in Edward Scissorhands is so full circle for him❤ Also, I'm not sure wh, but Edward Scissorhands is my all time favorite movie. Its so nostalgic yet strange and sweet in a way. ❤ i just love that Tim found his crowd
Some would say it feels like a fever dream... but it looks more lie a hyperthermia nightmare. Hansel and Grethel sprinkled with Cronenberg's "The Fly", a bit of "The Stuff" and "The wizard of Oz"... garnished with Wagner's "Lohengrin", "Alice in wonderland" and a variant of "The Goose that Laid the Golden Eggs", set a Germanic folktale with asian actors accompaigned with a budget Anton Webernesque score... really, what more can a child ask for!?
Tim was in a stylistic approach that would have been comfortable with Edward Gorey. They both have the macabre edge…only Tim applied colour as wildly as Gorey stuck to the black and white line drawings. Oh to have seen just one collaboration with those two, it would either have been epic, or like a guided tour through the psyche of a manic depressive.🖤🇨🇦
Tim Burton's always been an odd egg, but it's thanks to that that he was able to carve himself into a niche that drew the attention of millions of people around the world that also felt miscast in society and finally found some common ground with a lot of other like-minded people.
Having a “film graphics” program along with the “Disney” animation program really paid off in the long run. Took a long time but they ended up dominating decades later.
Amazing and very immersive. The changed the architecture making you enter through a big pink and black spiral tunnel. It was full of tons of film props and concept art from all his major works and included many early projects like this film being screened. They had his sketchbooks and "stain boy" dioramas@@theothervault
I deal with haters at my job and i live with a crazy apartment complex. So i understand about pain..i also deal with a learning disorder. I have a degree in fashion design..n i am a artist..not perfect but i am creative..n i draw alot and do fashion..
This is fantastic, and I'm sort of surprised I never knew about it! As a spooky kid in the early 90s, of course Nightmare resonated with me, but even younger I had a copy of Pee-Wee and was obsessed with it. Never had cable in the early 80s, so I had no chance of seeing it, but I was definitely a huge fan of Burton through the early 2000s. Definitely going to check out the film now!
I love this weird little film, although I found it uneven in parts and I'm not sure if using the same composer as Mr. Roger's Neighborhood was the right fit. But as an early attempt by a young filmmaker, it's pretty amazing.
I actually visited the set of the live action Frankenweenie in the 1980s, which Tim made before any of his features. Although I saw him I wasn't able to meet him as the producer said that Tim didn't like being bothered when he was making a film. That was okay because I got to visit the sets including the windmill set before it was set on fire for its big scene. I also saw all of the film's storyboards which had been drawn by Tim Burton.
"Don't hug me I'm scared" that is certainly thriving it hasn't been buried😅 If only it came out a little bit later during the internet age 😅, I actually do recall watching Hansel and Gretel special and Vincent
Tim Burton did not make a movie called Gretel in 1999, but he did make a short film called Hansel and Gretel in 1983: Hansel and Gretel (1983): A live-action and stop-motion animated short film that Burton created while working at Disney Feature Animation. The film features East Asian actors, Japanese toys, and kung fu fights. It also has a design style and color scheme that pays homage to the Godzilla movies. Burton's other films include: Pee-Wee's Big Adventure (1985) Beetlejuice (1988) Batman (1989) Edward Scissorhands (1990) The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993) Dumbo (2019)
@@theothervault would love to see more, honestly. you really did your research. saw another video that was recommended to me about how he had like 20-something other movie ideas that never came to fruition. didn’t watch it but would love to hear your take on it. tim burton really doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. he really started my artistic endeavors and i solely draw monsters and terrifying fantasy creatures and i can’t help but have him to thank haha
You've earned a subscription by just simply informing me that there's a Tim Burton movie I've yet to see. As a major fan this pleases me, I'll be searching for the torrent of this while you continue in the background
Just recently came across your channel and i really enjoy your videos! You talk about a lot of stuff i've never seen anyone else cover before, like The Devil and Max Devlin and that Indiana Jones Super Bowl show. Long story short you have a new subscriber! BTW i would love to see you talk about Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy movie, it's got quite a wild history and it's definitely a product of 80s/90s Disney's more mature films.
Thanks so much for the support and I'm so happy to hear you're enjoying everything! Dick Tracy was a whole lot of fun! I'll probably get around to it at some point.
That’s pretty ironic that as a child not knowing Tim did Fox and the hound, which is one of my child hood favs:. “ im a Fox! “ “im a hooounnd dog” and then growing up on movies like Edward scissors hands, to beetlejuice, Batman one and two,mars attacks , and the peewee movie .. which all where childhood favs. And I did not really pay attention the name of Tim Burton until so sleepy hollow.
Tim was making late 2020s Adult Swim content in the 80s. He was truly ahead of his time.
We're still in early/mid 2020s, lol.
the weidest stuff ever featured on Adults Swim was before the 2020s, it was in the 2000s and 2010s. Xavier, 12 oz mouse, Squidbillies etc.
@@nwerd7584Yup. And Home Movies, Aquateen Hungerforce, and more. (Though I love Home Movies, Aquateen Hungerforce and more)
you from the future or sum? we just now in the mid 2020s
late 2020s? we've got a time traveller here lads
Tim burton is basically if Edgar Allen Poe was a visual artist. there's something so unique about his designs that i've not really seen replicated elsewhere. i love his dark surrealist vibe
Hes just copying german expressionism from the 1920s
Do not compare the late great Edgar Allen Poe to Tim Burton. They’re on two different levels and playing fields.
His tales are like the modern day Grim Brothers fairytales
@@ericg1100 No he isn’t.
He is certainly influenced by it, as well as by cartoonists like Edward Gorey and Charles Addams, but Burton’s synthesis of these influences is totally singular and unmistakable as his own style. You can’t confuse his work with any of those other impressions.
Poe wasn't a dark surrealist and you've never read a single thing by him
Anyone else thinks young Tim Burton looks like a Tim Burton character.
Totally
Hell yeah, that is what I was thinking too.
The self awareness he seemed to possess at that age is admirable
No
Yea the bride one
It's a shame that Disney Channel buried it. Sure, lots of kids were traumatized by Watcher in the Woods and Something Wicked This Way Comes, but they got a chance to flourish on TV every Halloween and become beloved cult classics. This could've done the same. And just as I looked forward to those reruns, I'm always excited to see a new upload from The Other Vault.
Much appreciated! Yeah - this totally could reached cult classic status if they had stuck with it.
Yeah well if Betty Davis wasn't so damn good, I wouldn't have been terrified by Watcher. I have watched it since but still to much. Book's real good though.
For years there were copies floating around on VHS recorded from the original 1983 airing, I first saw one in '85 or '86. There's bound to be a tape still out there in the wild in someone's parents attic, commercials and all. In the 80's especially the early 80's "whatever aired on cable, it most definitely got recorded to VCR and someone has probably got an unknown quantity. Nobody had cable but 1 maybe 2 kids in your neighborhood back then so everything got recorded to VCR and passed around. I mean EVERYTHING. It was kind of a big deal. To be perfectly fair tho, sadly, it was also completely common to record over stuff because new tapes were expensive. Especially for middle schoolers
"Sure, lots of kids were traumatized...but" nah mate, just stop right there 🤨
I just watched it and couldn't disagree more. Crazy to think it aired on Disney. Best way to describe it would be cringe fest. If it had been done in the style of Vincent with competent actors it could have been amazing. Buuuut it wasn't.
That's unfortunate that Disney didn't give Burton the artistic freedom to recreate Dumbo. Everybody's favorite part is PINK ELEPHANTS ON PARADE.
Look out! Look out!
Pink elephants on parade
Here they come!
Hippety hoppety
They're here and there
Pink elephants ev'rywhere
Look out! Look out!
They're walking around the bed
On their head
Clippety cloppety
Arrayed in braid
Pink elephants on parade
What'll I do? What'll I do?
What an unusual view!
I could stand the sight of worms
And look at microscopic germs
But technicolor pachyderms
Is really to much for me
I am not the type to faint
When things are odd or things
are quaint
But seeing things you know that ain't
Can certainly give you an awful fright!
What a sight!
Chase 'em away!
Chase 'em away!
I'm afraid need your aid
Pink elephants on parade!
Pink elephants!
Pink elephants!
There to afraid of the drugs
No, I was terrified of that scene as a kid. I never liked Dumbo much, but I vividly remember b int scared of that scene. I never knew that was Tim Burton
@@TotallyxKatieefunny i had a totally different experience, dumbo was boring but id watch the pink elephant scene over and over! Same with huffalumps and woozles!✨
@@TotallyxKatieeIt wasn't. OP was talking about the live animation remake he directed. Dumbo the animated film was made WAAAAAAY before his time.
I can't say I immediately loved Nightmare Before Christmas when it came out in 1993 and I was eight. The imagery was strange, none of the characters were particularly cute, and the themes hinted at an existential angst that didn't really jive with the Disney stuff I was used to. But I did immediately respect it. You just knew there was something special about it. And unique. And artistic. And the music was good on a level I wasn't prepared for. The theater wasn't very full that day at all. And the fact that we still chose to see it felt like a turning point in maturity for some reason. Tim speaks directly to that inner loneliness you weren't really supposed to admit or acknowledge back then. And that was kind of exciting.
@@kitsmashing3267 Yeah I didn't realize how much Burton stole from German Expressionism until fairly recently. Seeing Metropolis was definitely eye opening. Sellick maybe didn't get enough credit initially, but I think people are well aware what a great film maker he is now. Nightmare is definitely a co-production. Tim Burton provides a lot of the imagery and concepts, Henry Sellick gives everything a cadence and movement that Burton may have lacked at the time. And Danny Elfman provides a lot of the magic. All movies are definitely a team effort.
"The Nightmare Before Christmas" was a lot like "Alice in Wonderland" originally in that they both BOMBED horribly in the box-office; however, it was BECAUSE of the cult-following that slowly but surely accumulated over the years that made BOTH of the franchises into colossal-sized classics now! When I was a little boy, "The Nightmare Before Christmas" to me was incredible! I immediately fell in love with it! Halloween AND Christmas equally having their showing was just what I was honestly waiting for since who knows how long; and also, I always WANTED to have a "holiday leader" for Halloween, and compared to the other holidays, Halloween NEVER had an official leader.......until that very point in history! Ever since I was able to look back and say, "Yes, there IS a holiday leader for Halloween; and that person is Jack Skellington - "The Pumpkin King"!" NOBODY could tell me otherwise; and believe me, way back when they tried over and over again.......and they FAILED to disprove my theory!
I love Jack too, but maybe you forget, or aren't old enough to remember, "It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown." That was the 70's childrens' movie to look forward to every year 😊❤@@KingMickeyMouseOoO
so you just go around spewing this bullshit@@kitsmashing3267
I didn't like it either not until I got older. I feel like the got the age of the audience wrong
If young Burton was around today, he'd probably upload his art daily online, his short films would be on UA-cam, and instead of working at Disney, he'd probably have better appreciation working with an arthouse studio like A24 with his surreal style that would be better appreciated sooner.
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure remains absolutely hysterical to this day. I remember laughing out loud in the theater, and even more so now when I l'm old enough to understand more of the jokes and appreciate the editing.
Totally! Big Adventure definitely still holds-up.
After the movie came out I found myself in San Antonio in basic training. When I finally got my day pass to leave the base I went to San Antonio to find the Alamo. I found it on a street in the heart of the city. Because of Pee Wees big adventure I expected it to be surrounded by desert 😂😂😂😂
Peewee an theater are not a good mix
@@Ave_Satana666 Herman was arrested for something people have done in the USA trillions of times in front of a computer screen, starting from the mid-90s.
And to a lesser extent, in front of a TV and VCR.
@@TokyoXtreme he was in public which is why it was wrong the fact theirs a screen present isn't the issue.
"Disney and I were a bad mix." - Tim Burton the man who has worked on multiple Disney films
Undertones of: The money was good though.
He was on a contract tho
Everybody needs to survive! You can’t live on air and Imagination.
He slept 16 hours a day there 😂
Goes to show you can succeed in life by sleeping all day and churning out absolute garbage, as long as you know someone in the biz. Then go down in history as a legend for being an edgy weirdo
This is one of my favorite Tim Burton films. I love his early work, this whole short film is like his sketch books come to life, it's his style and imagination 100 %
And Rich Heinrich's contribution, I think them working together did something magical.
@@JadyLester YES! It is mainly because of Rich's ability to bring Tim's ideas to life. As much as I love Tim's style, throughout his career his success and recognition has always been due to the teams of people who can represent his style in sets, costumes, makeup, etc. His earliest projects just had the best teams of creative people.
To me, it's almost like watching a pop-up book.
What’s it called?
@@joshmacleod6447 what is what called? 😮
That gingerbread now has an apartment rent free in my mind, thank you.
Me two I feel a need to cartoon these characters now
He gives chucky mixed with pennywise vibes
I would be willing to bet that Dan-Dan the Gingerbread Man is meant to be a reference to Danny Elfman since Tim was an Oingo Boingo fan before working with Danny for Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure.
Knowing how weird that guy looks in real life I absolutely agree
Hence Danny doing all of the music for Tims movies❤
danny elfman composed a lot of his work in the future too!
I think Dan Dan was at least partly inspired by Disney's "The Story of the Gingerbread Man". This was a 1969 children's book accompanied by a recording of the story. On the other side of the record from the story was a song called "The Gingerbread Man" (credited to Camarata), and this song was positively nightmarish, with its speeded-up vocal, weird harmonic shifts, and endless looping structure.
Here's the song: ua-cam.com/video/IgqIwiN3xvQ/v-deo.html
I can respect many or most of tims work thru his years but i cant say that about this one
Thank you pee wee, not just for the childhood memories you gave, but for giving the light to Tim so I can enjoy his work today
The fact that Disney thought Frankenweenie scared kids more than Pinocchio
The shape of the witches house resembles the hill that jack skellington... there's glimpses of the sand monster from Beetlejuice too.. it's so cool to watch this and this whole episode is very well done and informative!! Great narration
So glad you enjoyed it.
Also so much that I think inspired Tim's adaptation of Charlie
I’ve always loved Tim burtons creativity and how he expresses himself through his work. It resonates with me because I myself am strange and unusual. I love it.
Everybody loves to brag bout how they're strange and unusual, LOL!
I see your quote there 😉 "I myself am strange and unusual." Well played.
Took me a hot minute. Lol. 'Where the f have I heard that...??'
Would be great if Tim Burton were allowed to remake this with his polished skills.
I will forever love Vincent. I love anything with Vincent Price or inspired by him
His voice and presence could never be duplicated.
Vincent Price is a one of a kind legend he enjoyed art and books interesting person gifted talent
"The Abominable Dr. Phibes" and "Dr. Phibes Rises Again" are supposed to be great films.... Only ever saw them when I was about 12 or 14 on televison, but I missed the beginning AND might have seen both....
Have to check them out..... This time, PROPERLY.
Take a shot every time he says "they had no idea what to do with him!"
The Disney Corporation spent much time trying to figure out a new identity after Walt died, so they hired young new visionaries. Fast forward to 2020 when they were told to create a specific new identity, and . . . . . (no young new visionaries - just DEI reboots).
Wild, right? Definitely a simpler time...
@@theothervault a better time for creativity. I hope we someday return to this style of working with 'no-named' individuals
And pe do philia.
Tim Burton is absolutely brilliant and I love his films, especially fond of Edward Scissorhands and Nightmare before Christmas. Nothing but respect for the guy.
Bro just mentions Danny Elfman as a musician. Completely neglecting the fact he was in Oingo Boingo 😂
They are his private facts
What? He had nothing to do with JoJo
@@The.One.True.B what does that even mean lol
@@joesdocs listen to Oingo Boingo lol the video for Private Life is great
@@The.One.True.B OH SHIT JUST GOT THAT REFERENCE. THESE ARE HIS PRIVATE THINGS
Boys and girls of every age, wouldn’t you like to see something strange?
Come with us and you will see, a movie made by Tim B’s creativity .
Tim’s creativity. Tim’s creativity.
The other vault is here explain it all.
Tim’s creativity, a movie that unexpectedly shows insane content. And it was money well spent!
Come sit down! The video, you’ll see!
Showing a movie made by Tim’s creativityyy.
Another classic!
Tim Burton rebelled against his old man. Burton senior was a very athletic man and Tim Burton did that in high school, he was a member of swin team, his dad approved of that. Young Tim Burton did wrestling in college. But he found his father's ambition stifling. Then Tim Burton rebelled. But his father approved of him going to college. But Burton Sr may not have understood animation. I saw an excellent documentary where his mother filled in a lot of those background details. Burton and his dad reconciled towards the end of Burtons dad's life. Big fish is dedicated to Burtons old man. Lot of his later work is family friendly. Big eyes. Wednesday is a return to the much darker Burton of old. The scene where Wednesday get revenge on pugsleys tormentors by flooding the swimming pool with piranhas is nasty and Catherine zeta Jones plays the enemy in morticia
That is also the reason for Willy Wonka's backstory with his father as a dentist in his movie adaptation.
Tim Burton's father was a serial cat abuser, murdered several of the neighbourhood cats during rape. He was a sick fuck
Wow, I didn't know about this. That's one of the scariest witches I have ever seen. And I see a resemblance to Willy Wonka: The welcoming of the children, the high pitch voice, the goggles, the pale face. Even the dialogue.
80s Disney Channel as a whole is a fever dream. I've made a couple episodes of commercials from it for my Retrosyde Archive channel. I've never heard of most of the shows and movies they aired in that time, and I've never heard anyone talk about them either. The channel really started taking off from their early 90s rebranding, so 80s Disney Channel weirdness typically gets buried.
Those little promo cards for itself with the logo were always kind of cool and surreal. All the cable channels had good ones there for a while. Big part of the fun...for some reason.
Young Tim Burton looks like Tiny "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" Tim's brother or cousin. A tale of Two Tims.
Tim Burton looks like Nicholas Cage playing as Tim Burton
lol. :)
His resilience and unwavering dedication to his own unique style is so inspiring. Great video!!
Thanks so much!
So fun fact, it was either the Vincent short or the claymation Frankenweenie that was bundled on a special edition VHS of Nightmare before Christmas. It was a pivotal part of my youth as I loved Burton films, classic Vincent Price films, and practical effects in movies. It was I think one of those post credits things that I found on total accident because the VHS was from the local library and somebody hadn't rewound properly.
I think Tim may have been concieved in the Cabinet of Dr. Calagari.
I just recently saw that movie and I have to agree. I didn't realize how much that movie had influenced him.
Accurate
I actually went to that art exhibit and got to witness a screening of this film like 15 years ago 🙂 The exhibit was amazing and featured a lot of his lesser known works including hand made "stain boy" dioramas, his sketchbooks and disney pieces. It also showcased the pumpkin king and edward scissorhands costumes and cases full of claymation heads with different expressions from corpse bride
Uh (and sorry if I get off topic here) I weirdly remember there were some Tomy Toys here in this special (and Tomy Toys were featured in the 1-hour disney channel documentary, "Where the Toys Come From" from 1983) Coincidentally, Tomy Toys were an opening day sponsor of Tokyo Disneyland for their Western Railroad Expedition attraction, and a mini train toy set was featured in the documentary. (WRE is an interesting case as that was a ride as opposed to a form of in-park transportation because of Japanese laws requiring that trains to ticket people. Hence why the Tokyo Disney Resort monorail (which opened with Tokyo Disney Sea) requires a ticket to board.)
Anywho, Where the Toys Come From is something you ought to cover next as it's weirdly not on Disney Plus and honestly serves as a precursor to Toy Story and features an English cover of a 1980s Citypop tune.
Great suggestion - it's on my list! Where the Toys Come From was part of the same Walt Disney Studio Showcase experimental series as Hansel & Gretel.
Dan-Dan has a tendency to keep me up at night, fearing for my soul as his shouts of "FINISH ME" echo in my mind.
I LOVED Nightmare as a kid. Tim is the man. One of the GOATS.
I watched it years ago here with commercials from the time. It's one of my favorites since I prefer his old art. Cute, nostalgic, fun designs; the steady pace with commercials felt very cozy. I recommend falling asleep with it.
Tim's version of Hansel and Gretel WAS nightmare fuel! I came across it about a year ago and was totally creeped out by it.
This is the first I have seen your channel and you did a wonderful job with researching and putting this together.
I feel like Tim Burton instead of working for Disney he should word for A24 films or Warner Bros because his vision on this kinda horror style needs to be recognized and I looked at his concept art and wow it is amazing. Tim Burton has a terrifying but great vision and I am looking forward to see more of his movies
Tim Burton even moves like one of his characters
Frankenweenie is SUCH a great flick. I was crying and so happy. The whole round of emotions.
Tim Burton is completely crazy and I love him so much for that
How dare you call him as "crazy"
Peewees big adventure ,scared the hell out of me in parts when i was lil
This was a great video I knew about all of this besides the hansel and Gretel flick. You did a great job time lining the whole thing. Top work mate
The reason why Tim Burton couldn't draw foxes,is due to the fact that ppl who are into Goth/horror don't draw cute things.
How that I know that?
I was one of those artists,of course no big time company even offered to hire me.
Probably cause I never went to collage.
My new favorite channel. Why it doesn’t have a million or more subs is a shame. Keep it goin’ bud.
Thanks so much! Lots more to come!
@@theothervault can’t wait
Love all the research and your animation splashed with Burton's in telling this story. Fantastic!
I'm just gonna comment for the algorithm bc your channel deserves it
Thanks! I'm just glad you're enjoying my stuff!
And I shall reply for the same.
Edward Scissorhands was one of the first movies I remember seeing in theaters as a kid. I was 4. I loved it then and love it now. I was a weird kid, though. My dad told me that we went to an amusement park and the crypt keeper was there, and I was like, “Daddy! Daddy! Can I keep him?” I don’t remember this, but I do believe it because I remember loving Tales from the Crypt (but mainly just because of the crypt keeper; the rest was boring to me).
That which was fucking nightmarish, the whole thing looked like the kind of feverish nightmares I’d have as a kid.
The Frankenweekie short is a very likeable movie, similar feel to Ed Wood, one of his best films.
His more recent CGI filled movies really are a low point, especially the Alice movies
I introduced my two younger kids to Tim's NBC movie in 2015 and that sparked a strong interest in his productions.
They have watched all of his movies so many times they know the scripts and songs, especially their initial favorite, NBC by heart.
I didn’t understand his method & style ate first, but when I watched a bunch of his movies & animations, it reminded me of what I did for a time when my kids were young. For fun, we would occasionally make an animated clay video, or a “Chin” video.
People often ignore the strange and unusual...
Tim Burton is the best film director ever, I love all his movies!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
he is a bit racist tho
@@user-qv2mc3dw5o So r u.
Tim is a legend!
this is why I love tim burton's work.It's always creative and boundary pushing.
This is amazing I never anything about Tim Burton but I was heavily huge fan of his movies from the late 80s and 90s like the Batman ones beetlejuice nightmare before Christmas so finding out how much l relate to his actual story esp with me writing my very stories to adapt into movies is awesome fr so thanks for this content !! :))
Nice, his first published work was inspired by Don Martin, those were super popular to draw when i grew up too.
How did I Not Know about this?!? This is awesome!
Glad to have helped!
Walt Disney's brother held my mom when she was a baby. She was a miracle baby born in vallejo in 1967 and was in the news papers a bunch because she was inside her dead mother for 7 minutes before they got her out and she was premature.
One of my best friends worked on "Frankenweenie" and did the animations in his younger days. :D
Awesome!
@@theothervault Arshad is still active today too! 🥰
Wow This was such a cool video. I had no idea of all the struggles Tim went through. You can tell he went through a lot of anger and pain with that first major project. He’s very abstract but Jeez that project was all over the place. He really has come a long way.
Burton creating the Vincent film then later on him having Vincent Price in Edward Scissorhands is so full circle for him❤
Also, I'm not sure wh, but Edward Scissorhands is my all time favorite movie. Its so nostalgic yet strange and sweet in a way. ❤ i just love that Tim found his crowd
He's truly disturbed but in a good way, is he not a pure genius love his stuff
I've been watching this video thinking the soundtrack sounds like Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood which makes sense as it's Johnny Costa 😉👍
Some would say it feels like a fever dream... but it looks more lie a hyperthermia nightmare.
Hansel and Grethel sprinkled with Cronenberg's "The Fly", a bit of "The Stuff" and "The wizard of Oz"... garnished with Wagner's "Lohengrin", "Alice in wonderland" and a variant of "The Goose that Laid the Golden Eggs", set a Germanic folktale with asian actors accompaigned with a budget Anton Webernesque score... really, what more can a child ask for!?
Tim was in a stylistic approach that would have been comfortable with Edward Gorey. They both have the macabre edge…only Tim applied colour as wildly as Gorey stuck to the black and white line drawings. Oh to have seen just one collaboration with those two, it would either have been epic, or like a guided tour through the psyche of a manic depressive.🖤🇨🇦
What I learned from this is don’t give up even if you don’t succeed the first time
Tim Burton's always been an odd egg, but it's thanks to that that he was able to carve himself into a niche that drew the attention of millions of people around the world that also felt miscast in society and finally found some common ground with a lot of other like-minded people.
When I was a Kid like 8-10 i loved "The Cat from Outer Space" it was a pretty good movie, If you have Kids they will love that old movie
12:52 that snake-like creature reminds me of that the dad from Beetle Juice
Having a “film graphics” program along with the “Disney” animation program really paid off in the long run. Took a long time but they ended up dominating decades later.
Woah I’ve never heard of this film until now! I love most of Tim Burton’s films and it’s a shock that I’ve never come across this one.
A Tim Burton Godzilla movie would have been insane.
He appears to have difficulty with eye contact.
Eye contact is weird
I saw this being played at his exhibit at the MoMA in NYC back in 2009.
Awesome! How was the overall exhibit?
Amazing and very immersive. The changed the architecture making you enter through a big pink and black spiral tunnel. It was full of tons of film props and concept art from all his major works and included many early projects like this film being screened. They had his sketchbooks and "stain boy" dioramas@@theothervault
@@theothervaultOutstanding. So good I went twice.
I deal with haters at my job and i live with a crazy apartment complex. So i understand about pain..i also deal with a learning disorder. I have a degree in fashion design..n i am a artist..not perfect but i am creative..n i draw alot and do fashion..
This is fantastic, and I'm sort of surprised I never knew about it! As a spooky kid in the early 90s, of course Nightmare resonated with me, but even younger I had a copy of Pee-Wee and was obsessed with it. Never had cable in the early 80s, so I had no chance of seeing it, but I was definitely a huge fan of Burton through the early 2000s. Definitely going to check out the film now!
Definitely worth checking out!
My favourite burton movie.
I'm so glad other people know this movie exists! It's genuinely one of my favorite films of all time!
I love this weird little film, although I found it uneven in parts and I'm not sure if using the same composer as Mr. Roger's Neighborhood was the right fit. But as an early attempt by a young filmmaker, it's pretty amazing.
Totally. Lots of yet to be realized potential on display.
@@theothervaultthank goodness Shelly Duvall gave him a shot with Faerie Tale Theater. I must have watched that Aladdin 1000 times as a kid
YES - I had his Faerie Tale Theater episode included in an older draft but it just didn't make the cut. So much to go back and watch now.
I actually visited the set of the live action Frankenweenie in the 1980s, which Tim made before any of his features. Although I saw him I wasn't able to meet him as the producer said that Tim didn't like being bothered when he was making a film. That was okay because I got to visit the sets including the windmill set before it was set on fire for its big scene. I also saw all of the film's storyboards which had been drawn by Tim Burton.
12:02 bro looks like ozzy osborn x creepy pasta x michael jackson x wizard of oz 😭😭
The live action Dumbo is great! One of the better Live action remakes, I do not understand the hate towards it at all!
Some things I detested about it, but I actually enjoyed it for the most!
Tim burton was the best. He just was chiseling out his identity. Best hire from disney.
"Don't hug me I'm scared" that is certainly thriving it hasn't been buried😅
If only it came out a little bit later during the internet age 😅, I actually do recall watching Hansel and Gretel special and Vincent
I think I remember this… it was a traumatic nightmare that I suppressed I think, but yeah
Tim Burton did not make a movie called Gretel in 1999, but he did make a short film called Hansel and Gretel in 1983:
Hansel and Gretel (1983): A live-action and stop-motion animated short film that Burton created while working at Disney Feature Animation. The film features East Asian actors, Japanese toys, and kung fu fights. It also has a design style and color scheme that pays homage to the Godzilla movies.
Burton's other films include:
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure (1985)
Beetlejuice (1988)
Batman (1989)
Edward Scissorhands (1990)
The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993)
Dumbo (2019)
I loved this short as a kid, still do now!
thank you for this. tim burton is a gem 💎
So glad that you enjoyed it!
@@theothervault would love to see more, honestly. you really did your research. saw another video that was recommended to me about how he had like 20-something other movie ideas that never came to fruition. didn’t watch it but would love to hear your take on it. tim burton really doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. he really started my artistic endeavors and i solely draw monsters and terrifying fantasy creatures and i can’t help but have him to thank haha
Danny Elfman and Tim Burton working together is like butter and toast.
You've earned a subscription by just simply informing me that there's a Tim Burton movie I've yet to see. As a major fan this pleases me, I'll be searching for the torrent of this while you continue in the background
The set of Sleepy Hollow was pretty incredible.
That snake think hanging from the chandelier (red and white hands drop from the mouth) looks very like the Betelgeuse snake think in the desert land.
I loved Tim Burton as a kid and I still love him today.
I want to see Tim Burton do a prequel about the evil witches in OZ and not Wicked but something even more dark
Just recently came across your channel and i really enjoy your videos! You talk about a lot of stuff i've never seen anyone else cover before, like The Devil and Max Devlin and that Indiana Jones Super Bowl show. Long story short you have a new subscriber! BTW i would love to see you talk about Warren Beatty's Dick Tracy movie, it's got quite a wild history and it's definitely a product of 80s/90s Disney's more mature films.
Thanks so much for the support and I'm so happy to hear you're enjoying everything! Dick Tracy was a whole lot of fun! I'll probably get around to it at some point.
Also Tim Burton is a genius. His work to me is beautiful.
For someone to put this kind of stuff out that is NOT on LSD is crazy.....
That’s pretty ironic that as a child not knowing Tim did Fox and the hound, which is one of my child hood favs:. “ im a Fox! “ “im a hooounnd dog” and then growing up on movies like Edward scissors hands, to beetlejuice, Batman one and two,mars attacks , and the peewee movie .. which all where childhood favs. And I did not really pay attention the name of Tim Burton until so sleepy hollow.
The witch reminds me of the child catcher from chitty chitty bang bang