This was amazingly helpful - thanks. We had ordered the Model S Long Range, it's due to be delivered next week. We had a 2016 Model S and used the included cable to charge via our 14 - 50. In preparation for the new Model S I happened to notic that the charger didn't have the 14 - 50 plug, quite a surprise. So did more digging and ended up ordering the Tesla 7y-pack of adaptors. I was annoyed (I get annoyed easily) that Tesla: 1) didn't make it clear they included only a 110V plug; 2) charged $220 for what's essential equipment for a big chuck of users; 3) seem to be (paranoid mode on) encouraging the sale of their Tesla wall mount by adding friction to purchasing the other options. So the root cause of my problem was that I had an existing solution that worked for my 2016 Model S, but Tesla changed things so that that solution didn't work. Once I get the 2021 Tesla I'll test out the connectors and see how they work.
Thanks, glad you liked the video! I too did not realize that they didn't include the 14-50 connector until we picked up our Model Y and it only came with the 5-15 adapter. I agree, it's definitely essential equipment and the most useful one (14-50), is $45 which could fill the charging need of 95% of Tesla owners is now essentially a sold-separately necessity.... Congrats on your Model S LR! Hopefully you'll be enjoying it soon!
Just a heads up on the SS2-50 (@ 9:50 in the video) :- This socket will be found in a lot of commercial and industrial applications - warehouses and the like for charging heavy equipment, fork lifts and so on. I had a 2018 Nissan Leaf, and bought an adapter about 4 years ago, SS2-50 to NEMA 14-50. I found that while it would work just fine when connected to a generator or solar generator, the Nissan charging unit would error out if plugged into one of the standard warehouse sockets! I finally found out that in the warehouse applications, they are often wired for 208 volts using 2 legs of a 3-phase circuit, and not the expected 240 volts from the 2 legs of a residential circuit. This caused the Nissan charger to error out due to insufficient voltage - a brown-out situation which could start a fire if left connected for too long!
That's excellent information! I had no idea they were used in applications like that. I'm really curious if the Mobile Connector would be picky or if it would charge with that on the 208v from the 3-phase system. I would assume it would since I've charged at a few destination chargers that were running on 208v... At any rate, thanks again for the info!
Nice info. MYP came home yesterday. Decided to go with the Tesla wall charger. I believe the rebate for installation will cover the cost difference. The faster charging will keep me with in the time of use for cost savings as well.
Congrats on the MYP! In areas that have ToU, faster charging can really add up! If they ever introduce it my area, you can bet the 80A breaker is finally going in 🤣
There is also a rare outet worth mentioning, the NEMA 14-20. Seen it flipping through my Hubbell catalog. Don't know of any real use for that. I'm familiar with 14-30 and 14-50, being the most common in homes for dryers and ranges respectively, and have seen a 14-60 once, used with a larger electric kiln.
Another very rare outlet i found in the home I was renting a few yrs back, looked like a NEMA 10-50, only it was smaller. My former rental house, I was told, was built in the late 1960s, and this weird outlet, which I had never seen before, was found in the living room below a window, slapped with layers of paint. I started doing some research online, and it turns out to be NEMA 10-20, and from what i would gather, it was common on some larger window air conditioners, as well as some larger electric heaters, from the 1950s, to the 1970s, it is designated as 125/250 volt 20 amp, , non grounding type, just like the much more common NEMA 10-30 and NEMA 10-50. The grounded replacement version of the rare NEMA 10-20 would be NEMA 6-20. Just giving you ideas.
Wow, I just searched that and it's a really odd looking outlet! You're right, it looks just like a mini 10-50. I guess if it was to be used for an AC unit, that makes sense that it would be right under the window. Thanks for sharing this!
NEMA 10-20. 125/250volt. No ground. Neutral. That's an old space heater receptacle made by Slater in a house of that time. Had one in my 1931 farm house
This is great. Would love if the other evs can take advantage of using the 120v over the 12amp limit and can regulate the 240v amperage too, that would be awesome.
Hey that's amazing. I had no idea how I was going to get a 50amp setup for my work generator since I am in remote construction projects. Thank you for your video and explanations.
Sorry for the long break! With world events over the last year, I wasn't able to produce as many videos as I would have liked. I've refreshed the channel to make it easier for folks to find and I'll be posting more often, so stay tuned!
That was a great review of home charging sockets! I thought the 14-50 was the highest amperage pluggable connection there was! Didn't know about the 14-60 till this video! Why doesn't Tesla allow the maximum 48A in car charger to be used through is mobile connection to a 50A socket? To be very conservative they could at lest allow 80% of 50A or 40A charging.
I didn't know there was a "Plug 2 regular 120v to get 240v" adapter. Thank you, i'm currently looking into getting an EV but was looking at options on how to charge it since i still rent.
I just looked all over too and it doesn't look like they make one. I have had EVSEadapters.com make me a few custom ones so you may want to email them to see if they will. They weren't really any more expensive than their existing ones at the time.
It would be cool to see you charge your car at a hotel/motel room AC outlet using the 6-20 or 6-15 outlet. I've tried finding videos of that on UA-cam but haven't found any so far. The only thing you'd have to compromise with would be going without AC/heat in your hotel room or using the fan only if you used a Y-splitter. That setup would work good at rural hotels or motels where they have windows that open and AC units that aren't hardwired in.
That's a great idea! I actually stayed in a hotel over the holidays but not only was the AC unit hardwired, but we were also on the 4th floor lol At any rate, as you said, that may be a great option for hotels in rural areas in mild weather!
@@TeslaRyan You might have better luck with motels - they are usually no more than 2 floors and you usually park right outside your room. They are usually older so the AC units aren't hardwired in most cases.
That’s funny picturing a big extension cord hanging from your 4th floor hotel window down to your car in the parking lot! The hotel manager might not be too happy 😆
@@ericw4279 Ideally, you'd do this at exterior corridor motels/hotels on the ground floor. Usually most newer hotel windows don't even open and the AC units are hardwired. Any place with 3 or 4 floors is probably newer with interior corridors and an elevator.
It looks like they're back in stock now and still $35 except for the 14-50, which is $45 now. shop.tesla.com/product/gen-2-nema-adapters Thanks for pointing that out!
Hello, excellent video, thank you. One question, what do you recommend? I have a 10-30 for a dryer. Can I buy an adapter to use the 14-50? Thanks from Tesla. Success. @TeslaRyan
This blew my mind, I did not know USA had this many connectors/plugs this is crazy. why so many different plugs i get one for each amp rating but dam. New Zealand and Australia have 1 plug for 10amp 1 for 15 and 1 for 20amp and they all look the same just bigger earth connector (Plug Type I). even the big industry plugs are the same
There are far more NEMA connectors than are shown here including 277V and numerous 3 phase versions. Many are rare, and I suspect that some while they exist in the standard have never actually been manufactured. Do a search for NEMA chart. I’m glad I live in Europe.
What information can you provide on a NEMA L16-20-R 20A 480V 3 Phase outlet. I work at a facility with one of these outlets and wondered if I could use it for my model 3
I'm not too familiar with that outlet but I looked into it after reading your comment. There's not any real portable way that I've seen to charge with 3 phase here in the US. EVSE Adapters may be able to make a custom one and just not use one of the legs but I'm not certain that they would or not. The only official Tesla documentation I've seen that mentions 3 phase in the US is for the Wall Connector and that's hardwired, not portable. Let me know if you find a solution, I'd be interested it know!
If both of the sides are horizontal lines like the winking one, that sounds like it could be a NEMA 6-15 outlet. If that is the case, Telsa makes an adapter for that!
Very informative I have a TT-30 outlet I think 30 amp that I used in the past for my RV can I use that? also does Tesla sell a pigtail for the charger that comes with the car?
EVadapters sells a TT-30 for the Tesla UMC. I highly recommend it if you plan to camp at all. Many State parks don’t have 14-50 options. I also recommend keeping a ratchet strap handy to wrap around the outlet post against the plug. TT-30 has short prongs and can easily become dislodged due to the hanging weight of the UMC.
Out of interest for those may travel north to Canada. We have always used the four wire NEMA 14-30 (dryer) and 14-50 (range) outlets. You will NOT find three wire NEMA 10 series here.
Blaine, Have you ventured significantly away from the fast charger networks in Canada and relied on finding 14-30 and 14-50 plugs and such? … if so, what sort of luck did you have and do you feel comfortable driving into areas without doing homework first and possibly getting commitments from businesses that have these (or other) outlets ahead of time? i’m very intrigued by the idea of driving into the far north (Yukon, northern Alberta, Northwest Territories) with my Tesla… But I don’t want to end up stranded in some town that simply doesn’t have adequate power … or has a private/unsure/grumpy (or anti-EV) populace that isn’t willing to let me plug-in (even if paid).
I am China and am trying to figure out my charging situation. Since China has a 220v/50hz system, would that make it charge faster than the US 110v/50hz system?
I have an L6-20 at work and they let me charge, need to get an adapter. They do have a a nema 14-50 but I’d need to run an extension cord… how safe is an extension cord lol like 50 ft does that affect the charge?
I'm not sure how safe a 14-50 extension cord would be just because I've not used one before. I've used 5-15/5-20 extension cords a lot while travelling, but never something pulling that much current. I'd imagine that it would be fine if you got one that was EV rated, but the "official" Tesla stance is no extension cords lol
@@TeslaRyan can I plug a L6-30P in a L6-20? I’m reading that the L6-30 is 30amp vs the L 6-20 is 20amp, will it only allow for 20amp? And is that safe? Okay?
@@jonathanvega4777 The L6-30 and L6-20 are different receptacles so you wouldn't be able to plug into each other. In theory, the only safe way would be plugging a 20A into the 30A outlet, not the other way around. EVSEAdapters.com does make both an L6-30 and an L6-20 adapter for the Tesla Mobile Connector as well: www.evseadapters.com/shop/en/adapters-for-tesla-model-3-model-y-model-s-model-x-gen-2/58-l6-20-adapter-for-tesla-model-s-x-3-gen-2.html www.evseadapters.com/shop/en/adapters-for-tesla-model-3-model-y-model-s-model-x-gen-2/51-l6-30-adapter-for-tesla-model-s-x-3-gen-2.html
@@TeslaRyan darn, thanks for the info, I saw someone online say you can but it would only pull at 20amp even if it was a 30amp adapter cuz the capacity is 20amp
@@jonathanvega4777 Ahh I see. For the Gen 1 Mobile Connector (earlier than 2018), the limit is 40A and for the Gen 2, it's 32A. Even if you hook the new one to a higher power source, it'll only do 32A. That's what they were probably thinking of.
For a 14-30 install, I would go with the Hubbell HBL9430A. Tesla recommends the Hubbell HBL9450A for 14-50 installs and this is the 30A version of that outlet.
Yes! The adapter for the Mobile Connector has a small chip in it that tells the Mobile Connector the maximum charge rate that it can take. That way, when you connect it to any of these, it doesn't overdo it for that receptacle.
No it does not. If the wiring and breaker cannot support the load it doesn’t matter what adapter or receptacle you tie onto the circuit. The right way is to install the correct 60a circuit.
can't you just do what we do at work with most power cords and cut the head off and install a new (cheap) head that fits the socket you want to plug into (as long as its the same voltage)?.
While this is possible, the Mobile Connector plugs actually have a small temperature sensor near the blades of the outlet to determine how hot the connection is getting. I'm not sure it would handshake with the car without receiving that input or at the very least, it wouldn't reduce power in the event of overheating. If you wanted to go this route, I would make a breakout box and swap the plugs on that. That way you would retain the temperature sensor and be able to swap plugs as needed. This is actually what I'm doing to test the adapters for the upcoming videos.
@@TeslaRyan I meant the other end, the one you plug into the wall... looks like any regular blades, 240v sockets come in different versions, so I thought maybe just replace the plug on your cord so that you can still use the other appliances, then again, you can just replace the plug on your appliance as well... I don't know, I went and made a doubler and now I can charge my car twice as fast :-).
@@Tikolico Yup, the wall plug has a little temperature sensor chip in it too so it can monitor temps on both ends to make sure there isn't any issue. That doubler sounds awesome too, great work!
Can I use the same receptacle to charge my trailer and my tesla. Been having trouble getting my NEMAs to line up at different parks we stay at across the country
You can use the same NEMA 14-50 or TT-30 receptacle to charge your Tesla and power your RV (at different times of course), but as far as I know, there is no electric RV out there yet that would need to charge using them. Thanks for watching!
I'm still unsure how I'm getting 16a out of a 5-15 outlet, I plug my Lectron level 1 and the Model 3 says it's pulling a full 16a. It's on a 20a circuit.
14-50 requires 6/3 wire while 6-50 uses cheaper 6/2 wire. Cars don't use the neutral wire so why the 14-50 is recommended ? Tesla charger is being installed using 6/2 wire as well since it doesn't use neutral. I would install NEMA 6-50 in my garage and even more likely for long runs of the cable since it can be a substantial difference in cable price.
Very good point! I have no idea why the 14-50 is the Tesla recommended standard. I'm only guessing here, but perhaps they wanted to use the same standard as RV parks? In the early EV days before quick chargers were as common, RV parks were frequented by EVs needing to grab a relatively "quick" charge.
Do yourself a favo. Stop using the non word "amperage" in favor of the proper terminology. Wile CURRENT is measured in AMPERES, when discussing the amount of current FLOW, the proper term is AMPERES< or more commonly, "AMPS". "Amperage is a sure sign the speaker is not really conversant with the technology. Yes, I know, VOLTAGE is measured in VOLTS, and the amount is referred to as VOLTAGE, so you might think that logic to follow with current flow. But I assure you that is not the case. Just say NO to "amperage".
This was amazingly helpful - thanks. We had ordered the Model S Long Range, it's due to be delivered next week. We had a 2016 Model S and used the included cable to charge via our 14 - 50. In preparation for the new Model S I happened to notic that the charger didn't have the 14 - 50 plug, quite a surprise. So did more digging and ended up ordering the Tesla 7y-pack of adaptors. I was annoyed (I get annoyed easily) that Tesla: 1) didn't make it clear they included only a 110V plug; 2) charged $220 for what's essential equipment for a big chuck of users; 3) seem to be (paranoid mode on) encouraging the sale of their Tesla wall mount by adding friction to purchasing the other options.
So the root cause of my problem was that I had an existing solution that worked for my 2016 Model S, but Tesla changed things so that that solution didn't work. Once I get the 2021 Tesla I'll test out the connectors and see how they work.
Thanks, glad you liked the video!
I too did not realize that they didn't include the 14-50 connector until we picked up our Model Y and it only came with the 5-15 adapter. I agree, it's definitely essential equipment and the most useful one (14-50), is $45 which could fill the charging need of 95% of Tesla owners is now essentially a sold-separately necessity....
Congrats on your Model S LR! Hopefully you'll be enjoying it soon!
Just a heads up on the SS2-50 (@ 9:50 in the video) :-
This socket will be found in a lot of commercial and industrial applications - warehouses and the like for charging heavy equipment, fork lifts and so on. I had a 2018 Nissan Leaf, and bought an adapter about 4 years ago, SS2-50 to NEMA 14-50. I found that while it would work just fine when connected to a generator or solar generator, the Nissan charging unit would error out if plugged into one of the standard warehouse sockets!
I finally found out that in the warehouse applications, they are often wired for 208 volts using 2 legs of a 3-phase circuit, and not the expected 240 volts from the 2 legs of a residential circuit. This caused the Nissan charger to error out due to insufficient voltage - a brown-out situation which could start a fire if left connected for too long!
That's excellent information! I had no idea they were used in applications like that. I'm really curious if the Mobile Connector would be picky or if it would charge with that on the 208v from the 3-phase system. I would assume it would since I've charged at a few destination chargers that were running on 208v...
At any rate, thanks again for the info!
Nice info. MYP came home yesterday. Decided to go with the Tesla wall charger. I believe the rebate for installation will cover the cost difference. The faster charging will keep me with in the time of use for cost savings as well.
Congrats on the MYP! In areas that have ToU, faster charging can really add up!
If they ever introduce it my area, you can bet the 80A breaker is finally going in 🤣
There is also a rare outet worth mentioning, the NEMA 14-20. Seen it flipping through my Hubbell catalog. Don't know of any real use for that. I'm familiar with 14-30 and 14-50, being the most common in homes for dryers and ranges respectively, and have seen a 14-60 once, used with a larger electric kiln.
Another very rare outlet i found in the home I was renting a few yrs back, looked like a NEMA 10-50, only it was smaller. My former rental house, I was told, was built in the late 1960s, and this weird outlet, which I had never seen before, was found in the living room below a window, slapped with layers of paint. I started doing some research online, and it turns out to be NEMA 10-20, and from what i would gather, it was common on some larger window air conditioners, as well as some larger electric heaters, from the 1950s, to the 1970s, it is designated as 125/250 volt 20 amp, , non grounding type, just like the much more common NEMA 10-30 and NEMA 10-50. The grounded replacement version of the rare NEMA 10-20 would be NEMA 6-20.
Just giving you ideas.
Wow, I just searched that and it's a really odd looking outlet! You're right, it looks just like a mini 10-50. I guess if it was to be used for an AC unit, that makes sense that it would be right under the window. Thanks for sharing this!
NEMA 10-20. 125/250volt. No ground. Neutral. That's an old space heater receptacle made by Slater in a house of that time. Had one in my 1931 farm house
Nema 10-20 is Identical to the long used and current Australian socket, which we use at 230 volts.
This is great. Would love if the other evs can take advantage of using the 120v over the 12amp limit and can regulate the 240v amperage too, that would be awesome.
Thanks! I did test the Mobile Connector with the 5-20 adapter on a 2016 Chevy Volt and it actually accepted the 16A @ 120v and charged up!
Great video on going over the plugs on the 24pv and the 120v.
Hey that's amazing. I had no idea how I was going to get a 50amp setup for my work generator since I am in remote construction projects. Thank you for your video and explanations.
Welcome, thanks for watching!
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Great info/video, Thanks!
That was a great review of home charging sockets! I thought the 14-50 was the highest amperage pluggable connection there was! Didn't know about the 14-60 till this video! Why doesn't Tesla allow the maximum 48A in car charger to be used through is mobile connection to a 50A socket? To be very conservative they could at lest allow 80% of 50A or 40A charging.
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I didn't know there was a "Plug 2 regular 120v to get 240v" adapter. Thank you, i'm currently looking into getting an EV but was looking at options on how to charge it since i still rent.
Worth noting that the two 120v lines have to connect one each to two different circuits (under two different circuit breakers) for the device to work.
Is there still an L6-15 adapter I cant seem to find it when googling or looking around
I just looked all over too and it doesn't look like they make one. I have had EVSEadapters.com make me a few custom ones so you may want to email them to see if they will. They weren't really any more expensive than their existing ones at the time.
Just what I needed to know! Thanks!
Excellent video. Very informative!
Great, glad you enjoyed it!
It would be cool to see you charge your car at a hotel/motel room AC outlet using the 6-20 or 6-15 outlet. I've tried finding videos of that on UA-cam but haven't found any so far. The only thing you'd have to compromise with would be going without AC/heat in your hotel room or using the fan only if you used a Y-splitter.
That setup would work good at rural hotels or motels where they have windows that open and AC units that aren't hardwired in.
That's a great idea! I actually stayed in a hotel over the holidays but not only was the AC unit hardwired, but we were also on the 4th floor lol
At any rate, as you said, that may be a great option for hotels in rural areas in mild weather!
@@TeslaRyan You might have better luck with motels - they are usually no more than 2 floors and you usually park right outside your room. They are usually older so the AC units aren't hardwired in most cases.
That’s funny picturing a big extension cord hanging from your 4th floor hotel window down to your car in the parking lot! The hotel manager might not be too happy 😆
@@ericw4279 Ideally, you'd do this at exterior corridor motels/hotels on the ground floor. Usually most newer hotel windows don't even open and the AC units are hardwired. Any place with 3 or 4 floors is probably newer with interior corridors and an elevator.
@@ArtiePenguin1 yes I realize that I was just imagining that picture in my head and laughing.
Thanks for all the information!
I am from europe but still loved this video, in europe it is much easier no need for all these adapters.
Absolutely! Having a 220v - 240v system as your main plug would be an EV dream come true in the states. Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed!
All right probably a dumb question but is the first gin mobile connector able to go past the limitations of the Second gen mobile connector
Surprisingly, the Gen 1 Mobile Connector DOES charge faster than the Gen 2! The Gen 2 has the 32A limitation but the Gen 1 can do the full 40A!
Most adapters are on back order on Tesla’s website and are priced twice at what you recommended
It looks like they're back in stock now and still $35 except for the 14-50, which is $45 now.
shop.tesla.com/product/gen-2-nema-adapters
Thanks for pointing that out!
Good video and explained well👍
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
Super helpful, thank you so much!
Hello, excellent video, thank you. One question, what do you recommend? I have a 10-30 for a dryer. Can I buy an adapter to use the 14-50? Thanks from Tesla. Success. @TeslaRyan
Great video, are you still going to make the two 120 to 240v
Yes! Things have been a little too busy around the holidays. I plan on starting up again after the new year and that video is high on my list!
@@TeslaRyan please can you make a video. I want to buy the box from your recommended website but I dont know how that will work. vid please.
Nice video. Thank you.
This blew my mind, I did not know USA had this many connectors/plugs this is crazy. why so many different plugs i get one for each amp rating but dam. New Zealand and Australia have 1 plug for 10amp 1 for 15 and 1 for 20amp and they all look the same just bigger earth connector (Plug Type I). even the big industry plugs are the same
There are far more NEMA connectors than are shown here including 277V and numerous 3 phase versions. Many are rare, and I suspect that some while they exist in the standard have never actually been manufactured. Do a search for NEMA chart. I’m glad I live in Europe.
What information can you provide on a NEMA L16-20-R 20A 480V 3 Phase outlet. I work at a facility with one of these outlets and wondered if I could use it for my model 3
I'm not too familiar with that outlet but I looked into it after reading your comment.
There's not any real portable way that I've seen to charge with 3 phase here in the US. EVSE Adapters may be able to make a custom one and just not use one of the legs but I'm not certain that they would or not.
The only official Tesla documentation I've seen that mentions 3 phase in the US is for the Wall Connector and that's hardwired, not portable.
Let me know if you find a solution, I'd be interested it know!
I have an outlet that looks like the 620 but instead of a winking left side, both sides wink. What is that called and can I use it?
If both of the sides are horizontal lines like the winking one, that sounds like it could be a NEMA 6-15 outlet. If that is the case, Telsa makes an adapter for that!
Very informative I have a TT-30 outlet I think 30 amp that I used in the past for my RV can I use that? also does Tesla sell a pigtail for the charger that comes with the car?
EVadapters sells a TT-30 for the Tesla UMC. I highly recommend it if you plan to camp at all. Many State parks don’t have 14-50 options. I also recommend keeping a ratchet strap handy to wrap around the outlet post against the plug. TT-30 has short prongs and can easily become dislodged due to the hanging weight of the UMC.
Note the TT-30 is a 120v, 30A item, not 240v.
Out of interest for those may travel north to Canada. We have always used the four wire NEMA 14-30 (dryer) and 14-50 (range) outlets. You will NOT find three wire NEMA 10 series here.
That's great to know!
Blaine, Have you ventured significantly away from the fast charger networks in Canada and relied on finding 14-30 and 14-50 plugs and such? … if so, what sort of luck did you have and do you feel comfortable driving into areas without doing homework first and possibly getting commitments from businesses that have these (or other) outlets ahead of time? i’m very intrigued by the idea of driving into the far north (Yukon, northern Alberta, Northwest Territories) with my Tesla… But I don’t want to end up stranded in some town that simply doesn’t have adequate power … or has a private/unsure/grumpy (or anti-EV) populace that isn’t willing to let me plug-in (even if paid).
I am China and am trying to figure out my charging situation. Since China has a 220v/50hz system, would that make it charge faster than the US 110v/50hz system?
It depends on the amperage of the outlet but if they were the same, yes, the Chinese 220v system would charge nearly twice as fast as the US system!
@@TeslaRyan thank you!
I have an L6-20 at work and they let me charge, need to get an adapter. They do have a a nema 14-50 but I’d need to run an extension cord… how safe is an extension cord lol like 50 ft does that affect the charge?
I'm not sure how safe a 14-50 extension cord would be just because I've not used one before. I've used 5-15/5-20 extension cords a lot while travelling, but never something pulling that much current.
I'd imagine that it would be fine if you got one that was EV rated, but the "official" Tesla stance is no extension cords lol
@@TeslaRyan can I plug a L6-30P in a L6-20? I’m reading that the L6-30 is 30amp vs the L 6-20 is 20amp, will it only allow for 20amp? And is that safe? Okay?
@@jonathanvega4777 The L6-30 and L6-20 are different receptacles so you wouldn't be able to plug into each other. In theory, the only safe way would be plugging a 20A into the 30A outlet, not the other way around.
EVSEAdapters.com does make both an L6-30 and an L6-20 adapter for the Tesla Mobile Connector as well:
www.evseadapters.com/shop/en/adapters-for-tesla-model-3-model-y-model-s-model-x-gen-2/58-l6-20-adapter-for-tesla-model-s-x-3-gen-2.html
www.evseadapters.com/shop/en/adapters-for-tesla-model-3-model-y-model-s-model-x-gen-2/51-l6-30-adapter-for-tesla-model-s-x-3-gen-2.html
@@TeslaRyan darn, thanks for the info, I saw someone online say you can but it would only pull at 20amp even if it was a 30amp adapter cuz the capacity is 20amp
@@jonathanvega4777 Ahh I see.
For the Gen 1 Mobile Connector (earlier than 2018), the limit is 40A and for the Gen 2, it's 32A. Even if you hook the new one to a higher power source, it'll only do 32A. That's what they were probably thinking of.
How much for the adapter to pull 42 amps?
what 14-30 do you recommend for charging? im getting one installed and dont want a cheap one.
For a 14-30 install, I would go with the Hubbell HBL9430A. Tesla recommends the Hubbell HBL9450A for 14-50 installs and this is the 30A version of that outlet.
@@TeslaRyan thanks!
Simply changing the plug/receptacle combination varies the amperage/power too?! It's the same mobile connector and the same 240V! What gives?
Yes! The adapter for the Mobile Connector has a small chip in it that tells the Mobile Connector the maximum charge rate that it can take. That way, when you connect it to any of these, it doesn't overdo it for that receptacle.
No it does not. If the wiring and breaker cannot support the load it doesn’t matter what adapter or receptacle you tie onto the circuit. The right way is to install the correct 60a circuit.
can't you just do what we do at work with most power cords and cut the head off and install a new (cheap) head that fits the socket you want to plug into (as long as its the same voltage)?.
While this is possible, the Mobile Connector plugs actually have a small temperature sensor near the blades of the outlet to determine how hot the connection is getting. I'm not sure it would handshake with the car without receiving that input or at the very least, it wouldn't reduce power in the event of overheating.
If you wanted to go this route, I would make a breakout box and swap the plugs on that. That way you would retain the temperature sensor and be able to swap plugs as needed. This is actually what I'm doing to test the adapters for the upcoming videos.
@@TeslaRyan I meant the other end, the one you plug into the wall... looks like any regular blades, 240v sockets come in different versions, so I thought maybe just replace the plug on your cord so that you can still use the other appliances, then again, you can just replace the plug on your appliance as well... I don't know, I went and made a doubler and now I can charge my car twice as fast :-).
@@Tikolico Yup, the wall plug has a little temperature sensor chip in it too so it can monitor temps on both ends to make sure there isn't any issue. That doubler sounds awesome too, great work!
Can I use the same receptacle to charge my trailer and my tesla. Been having trouble getting my NEMAs to line up at different parks we stay at across the country
You can use the same NEMA 14-50 or TT-30 receptacle to charge your Tesla and power your RV (at different times of course), but as far as I know, there is no electric RV out there yet that would need to charge using them.
Thanks for watching!
I'm still unsure how I'm getting 16a out of a 5-15 outlet, I plug my Lectron level 1 and the Model 3 says it's pulling a full 16a. It's on a 20a circuit.
14-50 requires 6/3 wire while 6-50 uses cheaper 6/2 wire. Cars don't use the neutral wire so why the 14-50 is recommended ? Tesla charger is being installed using 6/2 wire as well since it doesn't use neutral. I would install NEMA 6-50 in my garage and even more likely for long runs of the cable since it can be a substantial difference in cable price.
Very good point! I have no idea why the 14-50 is the Tesla recommended standard. I'm only guessing here, but perhaps they wanted to use the same standard as RV parks? In the early EV days before quick chargers were as common, RV parks were frequented by EVs needing to grab a relatively "quick" charge.
Why do you show charge rates in term of Miles Per Hour ? You're not going to be driving the car on a cord plug as you drive... What the ❓😆 JK.
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Do yourself a favo. Stop using the non word "amperage" in favor of the proper terminology. Wile CURRENT is measured in AMPERES, when discussing the amount of current FLOW, the proper term is AMPERES< or more commonly, "AMPS". "Amperage is a sure sign the speaker is not really conversant with the technology. Yes, I know, VOLTAGE is measured in VOLTS, and the amount is referred to as VOLTAGE, so you might think that logic to follow with current flow. But I assure you that is not the case. Just say NO to "amperage".