T5 Compared to a TKX For a Classic Ford

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • This is a simple little video comparing a T5 and a TKX. I go over the major differences (size, weight, input shaft and output shaft), parts needed to replace a T5 with a TKX and talk about one potential issue when installing a TKX in a classic Mustang.
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  • @soulsurfer8797
    @soulsurfer8797 Рік тому +3

    This was an extremely thorough and informative video.

  • @geoffmooregm
    @geoffmooregm 10 місяців тому +2

    I installed the earlier TKO in my father in-laws 66 Chevelle behind a 396. Went well and is a pleasure to drive versus the old 4 Speed. You can actually talk while on the highway!

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  10 місяців тому +1

      That overdrive gear makes all the difference in the world.

  • @arizonanorte3180
    @arizonanorte3180 Рік тому +1

    great video" most of us are in limbo when it comes to whats different and what works with the 5 speed Tremecs. Now we now 🙌

  • @donaldhill2775
    @donaldhill2775 2 роки тому +2

    Fitted a T5 to my mustang with the help provided by your website, thank you !

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 роки тому

      Glad I could help!!!

    • @donaldhill2775
      @donaldhill2775 2 роки тому

      @@dazecars Plagiarised your work if I’m honest, went from auto to T5, rose joints, copied your bracket and a land rover slave cylinder, works great, least I can do is say thanks !
      I’m in Europe so parts are difficult, 👍

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 роки тому

      @@donaldhill2775 Glad I could help and thanks for the honesty. I am a car guy first so if I can help someone make something work and not sell them something I am fine with that.

    • @classics289
      @classics289 Рік тому

      What cross member did you use and how did you get the parking brake to work? And did the floor support interfere?

    • @donaldhill2775
      @donaldhill2775 Рік тому

      @@classics289 Hi, x member can’t find the invoice, California something, tubular one, is extremely tight but you can panel beat the tunnel a little to get more space, choice of gearbox mount rubber can make a difference too ! I also fitted a quick shift designed for a mustang 2 which further complicated matters, you can move the E brake around a bit within reason and it’s fine, I have 2 1/2 inch jba headers & exhaust and due to the H pipe I actually had to mount my E brake bracket 1 inch higher, works fine, hope this is helpful,
      Don Hill

  • @Mr.EeToMyself
    @Mr.EeToMyself Рік тому

    The best explanation that anyone could have given... much appreciated.
    (Edited for my poor typing ability)

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Рік тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @johnbarker5009
    @johnbarker5009 Рік тому

    Thanks, great summary!

  • @akfish8106
    @akfish8106 2 роки тому

    Great job explaining things...

  • @chriscomer1472
    @chriscomer1472 11 місяців тому

    So what you are saying is when I get ready to bump up to the TKX have a professional do it for me ... Thanks for the information

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  11 місяців тому +1

      Glad I could help

  • @classics289
    @classics289 Рік тому +1

    31 spline output shaft I'm guessing? The biggest problem I see with installing one of these is you can't make the parking brake work. Some places are saying that you should drill out the spot welds on that underside support you showed and relocate it back a little and put the cross member on. Well you can't do that and still have a parking brake.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Рік тому +2

      I have not installed it yet but I should be able maintain the parking brake. It will require a custom built crosmember.

    • @markr2005
      @markr2005 Рік тому

      my 67 parking brake linkage is not connected to the crossmember.

    • @classics289
      @classics289 Рік тому

      @@markr2005 true, sorry. I was talking about the 64-66 Mustangs.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  4 місяці тому

      👍

  • @Glens1965
    @Glens1965 2 роки тому

    Nicely done.

  • @classicstangbrn8964
    @classicstangbrn8964 2 роки тому

    252 subscribers, I'm surprised, thought you would have a lot more.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 роки тому

      My UA-cam channel is a new thing so I am having to build my following.

  • @garrettduncan3227
    @garrettduncan3227 2 місяці тому

    Great video. Any chance you will make one for a Ford 4-speed Toploader to a 5-speed TKX? What do I need to do about the 1965 Mustang crossmember? is it a matter of massaging it with a small sledgehammer or does it need to be cut and modified?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 місяці тому

      I don't currently have a toploader to compare it too. You would need to cut out the rib ad then reinforce that area

  • @aroundlinemen
    @aroundlinemen 7 місяців тому +1

    Would it work on 63 y block f100 ,great video thank you

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  7 місяців тому +1

      Yes and no. With a stock bellhousing and adapter plate it would bolt up BUT that is a lot of transmission for a Y block. I am not dissing on the y block but there is little to no aftermarket support so they are not a big hp and trq engine. A TKX is designed for high torque and horsepower that a Y block would never make. I would get a T5. It would be less expensive.

    • @tuckersbaby
      @tuckersbaby 3 місяці тому

      Yes. Easiest would be the way I’m intending to put one behind the 312 in my ‘57 T-Bird: with a Quick Time bell housing. Modern Driveline has what you’d need.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  3 місяці тому

      quicktime offers excellent parts but their prices are IMHO about double what would be reasonable.

  • @kenwilson5438
    @kenwilson5438 3 місяці тому

    Hi. Very informative video. Unfortunately, it doesn't help me in my situation. I have a 65 Falcon with a 351 Windsor engine and a 4 speed top loader. Naturally it has the front to rear direction clutch lever action. Do you have anything to help with this setup ? Thanks. Ken

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  3 місяці тому

      I do not all my kits are designed to work with 5-speeds and their corresponding bellhousings. The only option I know of for a toploader is to use a hydraulic throw out bearing

  • @Tigerfire75
    @Tigerfire75 4 дні тому

    230 torque? Wow my 88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe puts out 240

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  3 дні тому

      ya the early ones are not very strong

  • @StumpyVanLife
    @StumpyVanLife 2 роки тому

    I have heard the slip yoke for a TKX is the same as a C6 slip yoke. Can anyone confirm?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 роки тому +3

      TKO and TKX Slip Yoke, also fits T-45, TR-3550, and C6 transmissions

  • @riomekilo895
    @riomekilo895 2 роки тому +1

    What flUID would you recommend for this TKX

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 роки тому +1

      Dex III. I prefer synthetic

    • @riomekilo895
      @riomekilo895 2 роки тому +1

      @@dazecars like a Mobil 1 synthetic ATF??

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 роки тому +3

      @@riomekilo895 The brand of the synthetic really does matter as long as it is dex III

  • @jwtru2life
    @jwtru2life Рік тому

    What about the transmission cross member mount?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  Рік тому +1

      Very similar. The issue is the TKX is slightly taller than a T5 in front of the shifter so that could effect how the transmission is angled. If you can get it angled the same as a T5 the T5 crossmember should work but if like in the case of a first generation mustang there is a problem with it hitting the floor ribbing the crossmember might need a little modification.

  • @josemelis4153
    @josemelis4153 8 місяців тому

    Would this automatic transmission fit 305 Ford 1966

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  8 місяців тому

      This is a manual transmission not an automatic

  • @jamesmedina2062
    @jamesmedina2062 10 місяців тому

    are the lengths of transmission the same T5 v TKX?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  10 місяців тому +2

      yes they are the same

  • @valcandestr0yer
    @valcandestr0yer 5 місяців тому

    So your saying this will fit in a 66 mustang coupe?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  5 місяців тому

      yes and no. The T5 technically doesn't fit "properly" in a first Gen Mustang. It tilts down a couple degrees more than it should but still works. The TKX is the same basic shape as the T5 but due to it being slightly different in front of the shifter the Mustang floor strap will hit or the TKX causing it to be tilted down a couple more degrees than the T5. IMHO the T5 is at the max angle so if you want to run a TKX the floor pan will need to be modified.

    • @valcandestr0yer
      @valcandestr0yer 5 місяців тому

      @@dazecars well I have a 351 that is going in the car so I don’t really have an option do I? 🥲

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  5 місяців тому

      depends on the build. A stock(ish) 351 in a light car like a Mustang would likely be Okay with a z spec T5 as long as that T5 is built with counter a gear stabilizer AND as long as the rear end is stock(ish) and tire width is stock(ish). In other words the tires would likely spin before the transmission breaks but you are right at the max of a T5 so if the 351 is performance built at all (anything more than a cam) you are rolling the dice.

    • @valcandestr0yer
      @valcandestr0yer 5 місяців тому

      @@dazecars yea it’s a 418 stroker with dome top pistons. Def more than the t5

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  5 місяців тому

      unless you went with a g-force or Astro Performance T5, a T5 will not be up to the task. At that point a TKX is a much better option and is a far superior transmission to the the T5 even one that has been upgraded.

  • @baldheadjamaican2551
    @baldheadjamaican2551 5 місяців тому

    Will the t5 bellhousing fit a tkx transmission

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  5 місяців тому +1

      It is the exact same casting but the transmission mounting bolt pattern is different. that is why I show both bellhousings in the video and talk about welding them up and re-drilling the correct pattern but getting the 3550/TKO/TKX type bell is probably a better option

    • @baldheadjamaican2551
      @baldheadjamaican2551 5 місяців тому

      @@dazecars oh ok thanks

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  5 місяців тому

      👍

  • @j.petisch
    @j.petisch 2 роки тому

    Have you installed this yet?

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  2 роки тому

      No it is going in my 62 Galaxie behind a 393W BUT the stroker rebuild kit I ordered in November is still on back order SOOO everything is on hold.

  • @24theMoney
    @24theMoney 4 місяці тому

    T5 WC can handle alot of torque if granny shifted.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  4 місяці тому

      Makes sense, I have a friend that rebuilds T5s for a living and in his experience most failures happen on power shifts between 2nd and 3rd. The biggest problem is flex in the case causing the counter gear to move enough that it doesn't mesh properly with the gears on the main shaft and then bad stuff happens. Granny shifting it would likely eliminate that problem.

    • @24theMoney
      @24theMoney 4 місяці тому

      @@dazecars Has anyone seen a T5 ever blow during a Dyno run? There ya go.

    • @dazecars
      @dazecars  4 місяці тому

      Good point