We feed the KIVO brand to our dogs. Every meat roll says wether the stuff is complete or not. Although I could probably add stuff for our dogs specifically. Our dogs do great on this food!
definitely agree on the last point!! It's always so disappointing to me to discover a new pre-made brand that states it has "balanced meat, bone and organs" but you look at the ingredients and it's just liver and heart or lung ESPECIALLY if it's a novelty protein like noooooo I was so looking forward to kangaroo spleen and ostrich brain 😭
So much this. My kitty really liked Primal frozen Venison nuggets, and I was pretty happy with them until I started having trouble with dietary oxalates myself. This clued me into some hip and leg soreness she seems to have sometimes. If oxalates can cause arthritis in humans, they can do it in cats, too. I took another look at the ingredient list on the Primal venison, and the 4th ingredient is kale. KALE?!?! What cat needs a green so high in oxalate? We're switching to Small Batch!
I feed that to my dog too! I like the extra steps the company goes through to make sure their food is ethical. And it is balanced but I've talked with my holistic vet about supplements. I also rotate the protein
I was wondering about the Vit E for Cats. It's only found Plantbased. How do we know it is needed in the Cat's Meal? Should i really add Wheat germ oil to my cat's diet if they can't really intake it?
Hiiii! I love your videos, and I admire a lot your work. My great dane was diagnosed with hip dysplasia some days ago and I don't want to give him kibble, do you have any tips on natural ingredients I can add to his BARF?
I know they use synthetic nutrients in their formulas as opposed to nutrients derived solely from meat, bone and organs. There's nothing inherently wrong with using synthetic vitamins and minerals to supplement a raw meal, so it's really up to you to decide if you want to include it in your dog's diet.
as a science graduate there is no such thing as complete or balance diet. even if feeding whole prey each individual of whole prey dont have the exact nutrient make up of the same whole prey. i.e feeding whole duck one duck can be deficient in iron compared to the next whole duck which may be too high vitamin e based on what the levels should be for that specie of duck. so every animal although containing the same nutrients can have varying nutrient profiles even if its the same specie. lastly, we as humans do not know what constitutes to a complete or balance diet for most animals especially dogs since we do not what a dogs true nutrient make ups are. hence its an estimate or range values.
True, every animal has different levels of nutrients and every organ is different too. But using the set values according to aafco guidelines is better than not doing so at all.
I do a wmix of brands, i find that brands can use different animal parts so mixing them gives more variety, i use big country raw, primal, bold by nature and sometimes red dog blue kat, any thoughts about them? I have pretty bad anxiety so making a balance meal myself is very overwhelming, the ingredients lists on the brands I buy seem to me pretty good
You must be from Ontario! I also feed my cat big country raw. But I find that many people who are more versed in raw feeding tell me that Iron will raw is superior in meat quality. I just don't have space to store 3 boxes of different proteins from iron will in my apartment freezer compartment.
i feed my dog commercial raw. idk about the popular international brands, but i tend to buy from local brands, and my pet peeve is that sometimes they would say "single ingredient meal" which means like, if they say the main protein is lamb then all the organs and bones would be from lamb, too (not counting whatever veggies they might add in later), but when you read the ingredients list closely it turns out they also add in organs or bones from other, often cheaper protein source. it made it harder to feed my dog way back when he gets itchy from chicken. he's thankfully fine with any sort of protein now, but it still irks me that some sellers would advertise their product as one thing when really it's not.
That's unfortunate! Single ingredient is a big deal especially if pets have a sensitivity to another protein that may be snuck in - I'm sorry about that.
Is there a way to do a combo pre-made/ homemade raw diet? For majority of meals, feeding the complete and balanced raw patty and then adding in fresh whole foods as well? Not sure on how to do the math for all that 🤭
also, commercial raw food brands cannot be to AAFCO standards without having SOME form of synthetic vitamin, so you either get synthetic or whole fruits and veggies. so the point u mentioned about fruits and vegetables but also looking for AAFCO certification is contradicting.
I also feed " big country raw " dog and cat food. I also will try to incorporate some vegs and fruit in alternating days. Adding fresh yolk 1-2 X a week also helps. Once and a while I get another name brand of raw food as well as making a fresh bone broth from all my bones I keep.Dr. Morgan has a utube video of how to make a delicious 😋 broth terrific for our soups as well. Some times I do incorporate fish in a meal as well as trying to make a recipe of salmon, white fish, mussles and another fresh fish I can afford. I also feed raw bones 1-2X a week. Duck necks or chicken necks hearts, kidneys, any thing else I can source as well. I feel I am doing as much as possible to cover most if not all nutritional needs.
One question about iron, I use iron drops (for humans) to balance my cat’s food if there is not enough iron in the meat (I calculate my “recipes” to be 100% of all the requirement nutrients) The drops are suitable for vegetarians/vegans so it’s plant based iron. Do you think the bioavailability is still okay if its already in a pure form, even if its not animal-based iron?
It’s a German product called “Ferro Sanol Tropfen” I can’t find any English instructions about it, but the main ingredient is “Iron (II) glycine sulfate complex”
Hello ! I would like to know your thoughts on the Bones & Co raw food. I believe that would a great brand to review. Also, is there any way you can speak towards ingredients that healthy skin and coat for dogs…more specific a raw food meal that support dogs with seasonal allergies?
Is there a way i could balance the patties i am buying ? I mix 3 proteins generally but two of them only have liver as secreting organs. Sadly i am a student and so busy right now , the idea of doing it all myself is overwhelming to me ! Could i had a few chunks of organ meats or will it unbalance it completely? Honestly i have been on this journey for almost a year and i can’t figure it out :(
I started feeding my Frenchie Bj raw dog food it’s great google them they have a variety of source protein and even whole prey as well I get the turkey mix which isn’t just turkey. It’s the whole turkey bones and organs ground, with beef, pork, salmon, bones and organs with natural supplements.
That last point seems so strange, if anything I'd figure getting the "weird" organs would be far cheaper since those get thrown out from anything prepared for humans. It's not like you'd find cow brains just readily availible anywhere all those waste organs feels like they would be easier to get than a liver which is still used for some human foods.
I recently looked at the label for a complete and balanced beef raw food. The first two ingredients are heart and liver. There was no muscle meat. This looks hugely imbalanced to me. The copper must be sky high. A dog needs liver and heart but in the proper proportion or imbalances will occur.
@@PawsofPrey I talked to the folks at Primal. They said they use mostly heart meat for the muscle meat portion of their foods. They claim their foods are balanced and that by rotating protein types you will avoid being unbalanced. They say that heart meat is more nutritious and more environmentally friendly. Yikes. Heart is good. Too much is bad. Just my opinion. I do not see how these foods can be balanced.
Dont know about the US but here most of the commercial raw isnt complete and balanced. Once I encountered a lady whose dog got hyperthyroidism from eating a blend with 70% pig throats. Seriously, who on Earth is selling that! Anyway, I make my own barf diet and I Enjoy it so ^^
Hyperthyroidism really sucks!!! The commercial raw from malaysia is really unbalanced as well. Luckily i found a nutritionist to help formulate a tailored made diet…
Im confused because you did speak on primal in the past that they are a good premade raw brand despite having 7% vegetables in their cat raw food. It is well known that cats can process fruits and vegetables that are lower than 10%. Dry food has so much more than that and raw food companies shouldn't be put as a red flag because they use a small amount of vegetables in their premade form.
Hello! I have a fun video idea lmao .... its kinda weird idk if it gonna work but hey. You can do a prep with me asmr like cutting the meat- NO THIS SOUNDS WEIRD UHM ACTUALLY NVM
We feed the KIVO brand to our dogs. Every meat roll says wether the stuff is complete or not. Although I could probably add stuff for our dogs specifically. Our dogs do great on this food!
definitely agree on the last point!! It's always so disappointing to me to discover a new pre-made brand that states it has "balanced meat, bone and organs" but you look at the ingredients and it's just liver and heart or lung ESPECIALLY if it's a novelty protein like noooooo I was so looking forward to kangaroo spleen and ostrich brain 😭
So much this. My kitty really liked Primal frozen Venison nuggets, and I was pretty happy with them until I started having trouble with dietary oxalates myself. This clued me into some hip and leg soreness she seems to have sometimes. If oxalates can cause arthritis in humans, they can do it in cats, too.
I took another look at the ingredient list on the Primal venison, and the 4th ingredient is kale. KALE?!?! What cat needs a green so high in oxalate?
We're switching to Small Batch!
Brilliant video. Have you checked out any of the RFVS conference videos? Great conversations on the debate of ‘create vs formulate’.
Is bones & co a good pre - made raw food brand ????
So.... i don't get it, is primal good or not?
Mine are fed Darwin’s raw food, is that a good brand??
Yes!
when a raw food company turns to fillers like potatoes in all their recipes and acts shady about recalls, no no it isn’t
Hi! What about dog foods that at NRC balanced?
I feed my cat SmallBatch and I absolutely love this brand. I would love to hear your thoughts or watch a review on this company if you had the time!
I feed that to my dog too! I like the extra steps the company goes through to make sure their food is ethical. And it is balanced but I've talked with my holistic vet about supplements. I also rotate the protein
my dogs get Small Batch Turkey 8oz patties & do very well on it
I was wondering about the Vit E for Cats. It's only found Plantbased. How do we know it is needed in the Cat's Meal? Should i really add Wheat germ oil to my cat's diet if they can't really intake it?
Hiiii! I love your videos, and I admire a lot your work.
My great dane was diagnosed with hip dysplasia some days ago and I don't want to give him kibble, do you have any tips on natural ingredients I can add to his BARF?
Green or blue lipped mussels. Powdered or fresh may help with joints.
@@_PlentyofPancakes_ thanks a lot!
What do you think about “Instinct raw”?
Have you herd of or done a review on Ross-Wells Titan Red/Blue Fine Grind Complete Diet?
I know they use synthetic nutrients in their formulas as opposed to nutrients derived solely from meat, bone and organs. There's nothing inherently wrong with using synthetic vitamins and minerals to supplement a raw meal, so it's really up to you to decide if you want to include it in your dog's diet.
as a science graduate there is no such thing as complete or balance diet. even if feeding whole prey each individual of whole prey dont have the exact nutrient make up of the same whole prey. i.e feeding whole duck one duck can be deficient in iron compared to the next whole duck which may be too high vitamin e based on what the levels should be for that specie of duck. so every animal although containing the same nutrients can have varying nutrient profiles even if its the same specie. lastly, we as humans do not know what constitutes to a complete or balance diet for most animals especially dogs since we do not what a dogs true nutrient make ups are. hence its an estimate or range values.
True, every animal has different levels of nutrients and every organ is different too. But using the set values according to aafco guidelines is better than not doing so at all.
Thanks for sharing this! I feed Steve's Real Food and will have to reach out to them now and ask some of these questions!
What feedback did you get? I feed Steve's raw beef nuggets to my dog.
I do a wmix of brands, i find that brands can use different animal parts so mixing them gives more variety, i use big country raw, primal, bold by nature and sometimes red dog blue kat, any thoughts about them? I have pretty bad anxiety so making a balance meal myself is very overwhelming, the ingredients lists on the brands I buy seem to me pretty good
You must be from Ontario! I also feed my cat big country raw. But I find that many people who are more versed in raw feeding tell me that Iron will raw is superior in meat quality. I just don't have space to store 3 boxes of different proteins from iron will in my apartment freezer compartment.
i feed my dog commercial raw. idk about the popular international brands, but i tend to buy from local brands, and my pet peeve is that sometimes they would say "single ingredient meal" which means like, if they say the main protein is lamb then all the organs and bones would be from lamb, too (not counting whatever veggies they might add in later), but when you read the ingredients list closely it turns out they also add in organs or bones from other, often cheaper protein source. it made it harder to feed my dog way back when he gets itchy from chicken. he's thankfully fine with any sort of protein now, but it still irks me that some sellers would advertise their product as one thing when really it's not.
That's unfortunate! Single ingredient is a big deal especially if pets have a sensitivity to another protein that may be snuck in - I'm sorry about that.
What commercial do you use?
@@enough425 i use local brands, so unless you live in indonesia i don't think i can help you with this, sorry.
We have a pre made raw but they make sure to tell that you have to add your own vitamins and minerals. And that it is not balanced
That's great!
Is there a way to do a combo pre-made/ homemade raw diet? For majority of meals, feeding the complete and balanced raw patty and then adding in fresh whole foods as well? Not sure on how to do the math for all that 🤭
also, commercial raw food brands cannot be to AAFCO standards without having SOME form of synthetic vitamin, so you either get synthetic or whole fruits and veggies. so the point u mentioned about fruits and vegetables but also looking for AAFCO certification is contradicting.
I also feed " big country raw " dog and cat food. I also will try to incorporate some vegs and fruit in alternating days. Adding fresh yolk 1-2 X a week also helps. Once and a while I get another name brand of raw food as well as making a fresh bone broth from all my bones I keep.Dr. Morgan has a utube video of how to make a delicious 😋 broth terrific for our soups as well. Some times I do incorporate fish in a meal as well as trying to make a recipe of salmon, white fish, mussles and another fresh fish I can afford. I also feed raw bones 1-2X a week. Duck necks or chicken necks hearts, kidneys, any thing else I can source as well. I feel I am doing as much as possible to cover most if not all nutritional needs.
I’m currently feeding my Frenchie instinct raw beef..I heard primal raw is better??
One question about iron, I use iron drops (for humans) to balance my cat’s food if there is not enough iron in the meat (I calculate my “recipes” to be 100% of all the requirement nutrients)
The drops are suitable for vegetarians/vegans so it’s plant based iron. Do you think the bioavailability is still okay if its already in a pure form, even if its not animal-based iron?
Can you link the drops so I can take a look?
It’s a German product called “Ferro Sanol Tropfen”
I can’t find any English instructions about it, but the main ingredient is “Iron (II) glycine sulfate complex”
How much plant based diet dogs can have?
Hello !
I would like to know your thoughts on the Bones & Co raw food. I believe that would a great brand to review.
Also, is there any way you can speak towards ingredients that healthy skin and coat for dogs…more specific a raw food meal that support dogs with seasonal allergies?
Is there a way i could balance the patties i am buying ? I mix 3 proteins generally but two of them only have liver as secreting organs. Sadly i am a student and so busy right now , the idea of doing it all myself is overwhelming to me ! Could i had a few chunks of organ meats or will it unbalance it completely? Honestly i have been on this journey for almost a year and i can’t figure it out :(
What is the brand you're feeding?
Also puppy and adult dogs have different nutrients requirements but many commercial raw companies claim it’s suitable for all ages.
Foods stating they are suitable for all life stages *should* be meeting the puppy requirements as well
@@PawsofPrey true but most are not sadly from where i live 😣
Your videos show how intelligent you are,thanks.
I started feeding my Frenchie Bj raw dog food it’s great google them they have a variety of source protein and even whole prey as well I get the turkey mix which isn’t just turkey. It’s the whole turkey bones and organs ground, with beef, pork, salmon, bones and organs with natural supplements.
Anyone here use “Instinct”???
Its a very good brand. Their raw food is properly balanced but they add all the nutrients.
That last point seems so strange, if anything I'd figure getting the "weird" organs would be far cheaper since those get thrown out from anything prepared for humans. It's not like you'd find cow brains just readily availible anywhere all those waste organs feels like they would be easier to get than a liver which is still used for some human foods.
These "weird organs" are often used as fillers in feed/food products created by big business.
Can you review instinct raw longevity there new formula
My cats don’t eat pre-made raw 🙈 I bought some for days with no time or when I’m sick, but they don’t want to eat ground up food, only chunks 😅
Well that's a plus for their teeth! lol
Great video!
I recently looked at the label for a complete and balanced beef raw food. The first two ingredients are heart and liver. There was no muscle meat. This looks hugely imbalanced to me. The copper must be sky high. A dog needs liver and heart but in the proper proportion or imbalances will occur.
Oh wow, yes that's a huge red flag - I have't ever seen that before actually! Pretty scary
@@PawsofPrey I know. I was shocked. I had not.looked at commercial raw ingredients lately.
@@PawsofPrey primal pork and beef formulas do this… time to Google and find out if this is very bad ( =n=)
@@PawsofPrey I talked to the folks at Primal. They said they use mostly heart meat for the muscle meat portion of their foods. They claim their foods are balanced and that by rotating protein types you will avoid being unbalanced. They say that heart meat is more nutritious and more environmentally friendly. Yikes. Heart is good. Too much is bad. Just my opinion. I do not see how these foods can be balanced.
Dont know about the US but here most of the commercial raw isnt complete and balanced. Once I encountered a lady whose dog got hyperthyroidism from eating a blend with 70% pig throats. Seriously, who on Earth is selling that! Anyway, I make my own barf diet and I Enjoy it so ^^
Hyperthyroidism really sucks!!! The commercial raw from malaysia is really unbalanced as well. Luckily i found a nutritionist to help formulate a tailored made diet…
Can u make videos of u reading bedtime stories please
Im confused because you did speak on primal in the past that they are a good premade raw brand despite having 7% vegetables in their cat raw food. It is well known that cats can process fruits and vegetables that are lower than 10%. Dry food has so much more than that and raw food companies shouldn't be put as a red flag because they use a small amount of vegetables in their premade form.
Yes for cats you can find better, but for dogs it's a better "readily available" brand
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Hello! I have a fun video idea lmao .... its kinda weird idk if it gonna work but hey.
You can do a prep with me asmr like cutting the meat- NO THIS SOUNDS WEIRD UHM ACTUALLY NVM
LOL I have thought about it before actually but people don't seem to love the ASMR videos as much :(