Fur Handling Coyotes from Start to Finish
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2020
- This video shows you Ed Schneider's methods of fur handling. This complete video offers you a great how to flesh coyotes to receive maximum value for your pelts. Ed discusses his freezing methods while on the trapline to conserve space, how he washes the pelts, fleshes for success, stretch to make the fur rise, and use the fur tumbler to make the fur shine.
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Didn’t even realize the man in this video ( Ed Schneider ) I watched couple times months ago was the Gentleman at the Frankfort / Herkimer show September 4 th in NY. My point is, as informative and genuine as he is on these videos ! a pleasure talking with and invaluable information he’s willing to share - first impressions AWSOME GUY ! Thanks Ed William Breault
Thank you William! I just got home and and had a great time there!
I just processed a coyote pelt for the first time myself. Based on your video instruction I was able to do a half decent job. Outside of some beginner mistakes that I made, leaving it to dry too long before flipping and left a little more grizzle around the head then I should have. your video was excellent and very helpful. Thank you for your teachings! 🍻🇨🇦
Your very welcome and you will get better with practice
What was the mistakes you made?
Excellent video, thank you for sharing your craftsmanship with us.
Amazing craftsmanship. Thank you.
Another great video Ed. A very good trapper taught me to borax the entire hide prestretching which eliminates the need to turn the fur - dry it fur side out. Works great! 👍
Thanks. good info.
ANOTHER great video thanks for sharing your expertise with us, nice pile of fur
Should also hold the knife flat when pushing as well.
Whoever said the curve of the knife should fit your beam was blowing hit air.
You should only push about 2" of flesh at a time,if the knife fits the beam you are pushing 7 plus inches of flesh and that gets you in trouble
Great video Ed, thanks for sharing 👍
Great job Ed another great video
Great video, very well done!!
Once your fur comes out of the tumbler and is finished what’s the best way to store it if the fur truck won’t be around for a month or two? Great video.
Yes! Freeze, dry, salt. Freeze drying works as well sleep
nice job on the coyote , i was told to do the ears on the k9's split and cartilage removed ,if they don't doc you for it ,i'll do my ears like you do . they make a great presentation with natural ears.
I understand that there are those who believe in removing ear cartilage. I did it one year and my average stayed the same from the previous year so what did I gain? Lol. I
@@edwardschneider2716 i can't argue with proven ways ,i enjoy watching your videos and learning new ways to catch coyotes ,the r j set looks extremely effective ,great video.
Thank you Judith
Very informative Ed and contained some good tips. I've always used solid coyote stretchers. I like your adjustable/ expandable stretchers better. I think they would allow better or quicker drying. May I ask where you find those?
Those were solld by A.W. Grawe. I'm also using Top Lot stretchers as well
Awesome video, very professional.
Im new to hunting and just skinned my first hide and I was wondering what’s the difference from putting borax, salting, and or tanning?
Borax and salt do help preserve the hide but actually tanning the fur makes it pliable and longer lasting.
O appreciate your comment
Borax and salting is to dry/sterilize a little. Tanning is what turns it from rawhide into hide
Nice video... it’s hard to find a buyer these days... I’ve just been skinning them for home decorations until the pandemic is over and find a buyer in my area....
I totally understand. Tight Chains to you
Hello Hendershot ...Kindly drop me ur watsapp contact , would like to buy few of them ...
Do you tan them?
Do you use borax in place of salt?
I bought a coyote pelt that says "no stretched & air dried" i only bought it to extend the arms that of a coyote coat that i bought, and repaired , so. i need to know how soften the stiff leather, i am very new to this, do you have any suggestions for me? thanks
I wish I could. I haven't tanned myself. However I suggest you call Sleepy Creek Tannery in Iowa and ask what can be done. They may be able to help
Thanks for the video. From a fellow New Mexican how did the recent trapping laws affect you?
They are terrible.
Nice looking coyotes Ed. What do you think the coyote prices are going to do with all the things that are going on right now? Where do you get your corn cub grit?
I wish I knew what the prices were going to do because all of my four was Place back in the freezer. The corn cob grit came from a farm store in Iowa
How long can you keep the carcass after harvest before skinning and how do you care for it before skinning .thanks, well done video
I skin my catch at dark same day usually with no problem. Hotter days you should skin much faster or more often. Thank you for the comment
@@edwardschneider2716 thanks for the reply. Few others do reply to our questions.
@@gcranch9913 glad to do so
Ears are to easy not to take out the cartlege. About a minute per ear and they look way better and dont have to worry about rot.
Richard from Kansas;)
How confused is the dog in the video 😂
I thought I had a good sense of this, and then I watched this... shampooing and tumbling were not on my list haha.
im new to this but from this point what would be left to do if i wanted to make my own garment out of the fur?
The next process would be either tan it yourself or ship to a tannery by mail. They can garmet tan it for you. Personally, I like Sleepy Creek Tannery in Iowa. They are online.
Hopefully your 21-22 season was good , did U ever get out to that private ground in Colorado ?
I never did. I would love to do so
I am new to putting up my coyotes and I’m curious on what brand stretcher did you use.
Top lot stretcher now
So just a quick question. I tried to follow along as best I could. Are you putting the pelt in the washing machine before you flesh it or after?
He fleshed before
I wash before I flesh. Sorry I didn't make the timing clear
Can just flesh and dry method work for other animals as well ? Thanks alot
It can but the pelt will need tanned. Drying the hide is just a step in the process
Can you start the tanning process right after you flesh them? Basically is the drying process necessary or is that just for selling hides? Im not selling my hides im keeping them.
I don't know why you couldn't.
Great video sir, What brand are those stretchers? Homemade?
Most were from A.W. Grawe. I have since been buying Top Lot stretcher brands
Thanks for the video. Could I get a list of each step you take? Thanks
How long will the furs be ok to hang after dried can u leave them hanging from November December until end of season in March thanks in advance
They are generally good through March. If you can't get them sold just bundle and freeze them.
im from indiana and would love to learn to trap sadly no one in my family or friend group hunts or traps. my question is does anyone or Ed do you know what i should do? i love animal pelts and have had MANY since a little kid, I wanna get my own.
Same here, but I own 0 pelts. I'm from indiana, and want to learn trapping and hunting, sadly only a very distant uncle hunts and he only does it rarely. Been teaching myself because he said if I can hone my skills with a compound enough, he will take me deer hunting :/
What part of New Mexico are you located in? And do you sell the pelts?
I live in Kansas and trapped in west central New Mexico. I have sold many pelts to GFW
Where do you get your stretchers from? I don't see them anywhere online
Anymore I buy from Top Lot Stretcher
Might be a dumb question but I am just starting out and have heard of fur falling out? Is this due to improper tanning? Or is a tanning solution needed?
Fur Falls out due to a variety of issues. One is to not getting the fur skinned quickly and either frozen or getting it fleshed and dried out in a timely manner.
Try to consider your pelts as a ticking time bomb
Thank you so much any other tips or tricks you may have for a newbie? Have you ever used the tanning solution that comes in a little orange bottle? Or is there a benefit to brain tanning rather than chemical tanning? Going to subscribe and follow your page! Thanks for everything!
I love watching your videos I'm following it all.Im a Trapper in Wisconsin love catching coyotes and fox
Thank you!
Will this process work for a bobcat? Do you add any other product
I would not wash a bobcat. I just flesh and board. I will do a video for that one
I'm from kansas to
Where did you get those boards for stretching?
I have stretchers from Grawe Trappers Supply and from Top Lot Stretchers. Both are very good
Do you use a tanning process or just flesh and dry?
Just flesh and dry
What was name of shampoo? What do you do with upper lips and ears? Thanks for the great videos!
Its Mane and tail shampoo. Gronwald fur says they throw the head away so I do not finish the ears. And the bottom lip is thrown away
How much would one of those sell for? Thats a lot of time and effort put into it
50-70/pelt
I thought they were going higher with Canada Goose jackets being all the rage. Is that only from certain coyotes? I know there are Eastern, Western, etc but I don't know where you're at or anything about fur trading. Just curious.
The market is in question right now until the pandemic is over
I understand the fur's value and uses. But what do you do with the rest of the animal? Is the meat edible? What do you do with the meat if you don't eat it?
I have composted them with great success and makes a great soil improvement.
Several furbearers are edible such as bobcat, beaver, raccoons and opossum.
How much will it cost to have a pelt done? I have 2 Bobcats and a couple coyotes??
I don't do custom fleshing.
@@edwardschneider2716 ok thank you🙋♂️🤓
Do you remove the ear cartilage from your coyotes ?
I don't
Hey ed. I was wondering how to buy your furs? Please get back with me
Email me at kansastraplineproducts@gmail.com
And I will be happy to discuss it further with you
what fleshing tool do you use
I've liked the Weibe Elite
Do you do any kind of tanning or is that it?
I don't. I just prep them
What if you shoot the coyote and don't trap it. Will this method still apply? I'm wanting to make some fur lined clothes for winter.
Same applies to fur that is shot. You will want to do good head shots as good as you can.
@@edwardschneider2716 can you stitch the hole? I gotta give up the jaw an ears 4 bounty
@@Mbnewman087 you can sew them up. Just makes it easier when you don't have to!
I used knives i forged and found that i had to sharpen them often.
How much are you selling your fur for? I would sure like to purchase a few of possible.
The price varies from 40 to 150.
If you are in the area you're welcome to stop in and purchase
Amazing video! Great way of doing it. But just a small thing, to keep your fur a little cleaner while fleshing, try not to put it back onto the board where the meat and fat gets on your fur. Just something I recommend :)
I appreciate it
Great video, thanks! It seemed like after you washed them, you hung them to try fur side out, but then in the next scene, you showed us how to turn the furs from inside-out to right-side out. Do you hang them to dry fur-side in, or were those steps switched or something?
Thaw and wash fur then hang fur side out day 1
Day 2 flesh and hang fur side in
Day 3 turn hide and brush fur out.
Around day 5-6 take fur off and store
I was wondering the same thing thank you, it was a bit confusing about the sequence
@@edwardschneider2716 what keeps fur from slipping? No salt or borax on the whole inside?
@@carboncopy110 it will hold for a short time such as a month or two but it will need to be tanned for long term preservation
@@edwardschneider2716 thank you for the speedy response. I’m just getting in to this. Your videos are very informative.
What if I don’t have a corn cob turner machine?
Some guys use old dryers with the heat element taken out. Just getting the fur clean and a brush is as good as it needs to be
Do you sell those stretch boards
I'm sorry but no. Made by A.W. Grawe with Grawes Lures
How sharp do u keep your scraper
It is pretty sharp. I use a steel once in a while to remove any burrs. But pretty maintenance free
When you put it in the washing machine was that after skinning, fleshing but prior to stretching/ drying ?
Prior to fleshing. It flashes like butter after that
@@edwardschneider2716 good to know. I see some people fleshing like hot butter.
I am doing deer hides currently.
Who makes those stretchers?
Those were made by A.W. Grawe. I also have some by Top Lot Stretcher
Those were made by A.W Grawe.
How much money do you get per fur?
Back then 25-50. Today about $2 -$10 each
What caused the pink belly ? Thx
Early signs of Mange I believe.
@@edwardschneider2716 Good to know .....Thx again
How's that coffee taste now?🤪
Wonder if I could wash mine at the local laundry mat 🤔 cause my wife is not gonna let me lol
More good info, tight chains
Could a hatson 25 cal airgun kill a coyote?
It sounds big enough if distance isn't too great
Hello, I'm from China, I want to buy wolf skin and wolf skin scraps,
Here is a link to a friend of mine I believe can help you out. Thank you.
www.barneshideandfur.com/product-page/wolf-2
@@edwardschneider2716 thank you
What happens to all the meat 🍖 from all them animals??
Many are donated to a zoo
I'm a decent fur handler but when I goof its always on the tits of a gip yote whats a good way to avoid this. I've been using a skinning knife around them with a bit better success but its slow going whats a good way to use my fleshing knife without popping them.
That is a harder area to do. I knick a few of them each year. I use a pretty light fleshing knife over that area and when I feel it I just flesh around it.
It would be much better if your camera is focussed closeup on the hide and not yourself
I will bet the coyote thought it had a great fur. Nice you can find another use for it!
I would love to start keeping the hides of the animals I've killed. I've harvested over 30 deer in my life and the thought of all that beautiful fur going to waste makes me feel wasteful
If anyone is selling bobcat hides I am looking to buy some for about 15 dollars per hide if it is in ok shape
Who knew if Ed Gein had a youtube channel?
Great video brother good luck for this season Trapper from Wisconsin here see in my page