Unless you skip Hamish's last quest as Arthur and do it as John instead, Hamish is older and you get a cutscene of him showing John what Arthur caught.
yeah, I did it that way. John and Hamish get to reminisce about Arthur, and it felt like the "right" way for that plotline to end. Still a sad ending but a little more bittersweet. plus I guess that approach means Hamish gets to live some extra years.
I get Buell as early as I can and let him die on Arthur’s last mission with max affinity. Then it’s like Arthur gets to have one more moment with Hamish.
Mine is definitely the weird side quest in RDR2 where you have to do missions that always fail for some idiot called Dutch. I just avoid them and continue playing the main quest of being a cowboy.
Yeah and the permanent idiot ball Micah who magically makes characters stupid just for being near him. Even the first time I seriously didn’t want to rescue him and often leave him to rot for a really really long time. Wish they didn’t do that mission because I really doubt Arthur would let Micah out and just claim the town hanged him before he could get there. When he starts blasting everyone, this is doubled, a ‘high honour’ Arthur would just let Micah die to the hornet nest he kicked up.
One theory about Thop's unfortunate demise and the one I subscribe to is that he died from exhaustion: the spell was his life's work, but was rejected by his elitist peers and dismissed as a bluntstone. Thops perfected his theory, this power he discovered, after pushing himself to his limit. I still pay my respects to Thops whenever I'm passing through the Academy as my sorceress character: of all the scholars in the Academy, Thops was more worthy of the stone crown than any of them.
It’s also worth mentioning that if you look at the lore/usability of the spell is actually incredible. There’s a similar spell called “Carian Retaliation” that also blocks spells and is generally better… but Thops’ spell can block Incantations. This means that the spell can block sorceries AND faith based abilities, it really is a major breakthrough.
@@karmicrespite5737 Yep, yep! Thop's barrier actually holds it's own against some of the final bosses' attacks if timed right: it's a true breakthrough and I only wish he or future mages could build upon it further.
I personally find the idea that some of the mages murdered him funny, because sure now he finished his awesome anti mage spell, but they still batter you with books and make effective use of those heavy stone crowns.
I'm not sure if it's a side quest, but in Mass Effect 3, you're able to make choices involving people at the station. One is involving someone with PTSD in therapy. If you go to a certain point in the hospital enough times, She tells her therapist that she'd feel safer with a gun and the therapist tells her she'll send someone a request to see if she can make that happen. If you choose to let her have a gun, she takes her own life with it. It doesn't affect the story, but it's a bit depressing.
Wait, doesn't it damage your war assets? I thought she killed some other people before turning it on herself. I could be confusing her with Rana Thanoptis though.
NPCs in Elden Ring never die at the end of their side quests, they just turn into some cool talisman I can wear or a ball of spirit to give to the husk so I can still shop with them, it's a win-win!
If you fix the reincarnation cycle at the end of the game, you can at least ensure they'll be reborn into a better world. Unless you sided with Dung Eater for some reason, in which case their accursed souls will wander forever. What did you expect from a guy named Dung Eater?
There's one side quest I will always feel bad about completing in Ori and the Will of the Wisps. After building the first houses in the glades, a Moki outside one of the houses asks you to tell his family that there's a new home for them and gives you the key to his house. But when you get to their house in Silent Woods, you find them turned to stone and take his childs stuffed animal back to him in the glades. The quest ends with him running back home, never to be seen again. Though, if you visit the house... You'll find him there with his family, turned to stone. Oh, and fun fact, when you check the quest in the completed quest menu, it calls it a good deed, despite the fact you just sent this Moki to his death. If you never complete the quest, he'll never know anything happened to his family and that's probably for the best.
HOLY HECK, seeing Geneforge on a list here is something I'd never thought I'd see. The moment I saw the "Find stolen knife", I was vaulted back to my childhood playing that game. Absolutely wonderful seeing the game get some love here on this channel! :D
There are several quests in _Skyrim_ that you might not want to complete for various reasons -- let's see, right off the top of my head there are: * "The Blessings of Nature" - if you gave Danica the sapling, the game forgets to remove the "dead Gildergleam" model from the plaza before adding the new one to replace it. It's so incredibly obvious but has never been (officially) patched. * "Paarthurnax" - Delphine inevitably asks you to slay this dragon. You CAN choose to just ... y'know, NOT go kill the dragon, but you can't officially "opt out" of the quest in your journal and you can't do any _other_ Blades quests while this one is still active. * "Darkness Returns" - The Daedric artifact of Nocturnal, the "Skeleton Key", functions as an unbreakable lockpick. So, just how important is it to return this unique item to the Temple of Nocturnal? Depends in part on your (the player's) skill at Skyrim's lockpicking minigame, and whether or not you want the "unbreakable" perk at the top of the Lockpicking skill tree.
Somewhere along the many versions of Skyrim, there was a "fix" implemented for Paarthunax that removed the quest if Paarthunax is alive at the end of Dragonslayer. As for the Blades, they will not work with you if Paarthunax lives. The opposite is true of the monks.
The Skeleton key is worthless when by that point in the game you should have hundreds of lock picks that breaking picks means nothing. Besides it locks you out of three powerful powers for a very minor convenience.
Well, on the Switch version at least, the controller makes a small rumble when I reach the sweet spot that lets me successfully unlock whatever it is I'm lockpicking. Therefore, I don't really need the Skeleton Key, just my natural skills as a thief. 😏
@@ddjsoyenby I mean, if you find an easily missable item you can give Boc a happy ending. You just need to find a way for your character to boost his self esteem (trying to keep it semi-spoiler free).
If Borderlands was my style of game, I'd definitely do the quest! "Bonerfarts" is an awesome name! It's the epitome of "Well, we've ran out of fucking ideas, but there's no shame in that!"
in Elden Ring one of the characters you can meet is Sorceress Sellen, you first encounter her in some ruins in the weeping peninsula who allows you to become her apprentice and learn glintstone spells from her. At the conclusion of her questline, you either kill her with the help of Jerren or she's transformed into a school of graven mages.
My pick is Oblivion, the Brothers' Separated at Birth questline. You can get it in the very beginning. It gets you the Honorblade of Chorrol, an ebony sword that can't break, is weightless, and deals its damage as magic so it ignores armor and harms ghosts and such that are only harmed by spells with no weapon charging nessesary. You can even grab it at the start, never level up, an go crazy as a character fighting level 1 and 2 enemies with your endgame-level weapon as it spawns as an ebony sword no matter your level. The quest never times out or cancels, so completionists can just save finishing it for the very end of their game. Something to think about if Skyblivion happens before ESVI.
it always bugs me when you have missions that take away really useful items, especially since they often dont tell you finishing the mission removes it from your inventory so you finish it expecting a reward and instead they take away a useful item and give you something far less useful.
Can tell they made quest items that way specifically because of how terrible they were in Morrowind, but they didn't consider the consequences of doing so.
@@davidmcgill1000 I miss how crazy morrowind items could get. Like those scrolls that let you jump a few miles in a single bound like superman if he was a soft squishy level 1 player character instead of an indestructible demigod.
You forgot another one for Borderlands 2. In the Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragons Keep, there is a quest where Claptrap wants a beard for his wizard look and in starting the quest you will be given one of the best pistols in the game: The Grog Nozzle. It's a Moxie Gun with the ability to heal the character and usually always comes in Slag, which boosts your damage of other gun types. The gun will also not only heal you, but you might also have your shots multiply like you are seeing double when drunk. But as soon as you turn in the quest, you lose the gun and cannot get a permanent version anywhere else
i got the full geneforge game set both vershions of 1 and 2 to 5 and love the games. my first runescape acc was named after the first fire lizards you can make
I imagine Andy wailing like that at the tragic end of every tragic mission in RDR2. Which means Andy is tearfully wailing a lot. We feel your pain Andy.
Thank you. This channel has provided me with hours of entertainment and allowed me to see more games than I'll ever be able to play. I was really depressed but watching these videos has actually cheered me up. I appreciate the time and effort put into them and I'm very glad videos are still being made years later.
I completely agree. NWN was my intro into fantasy RPGs and my (late) teens. I played that game for hours on end, downloaded modules from NWVault, made a few very short modules of my own. I still have the name of my first character that I use in other games.
I love it, was also pleasantly surprised to see it here. I just played through the whole enhanced edition last year, i'd played a bunch of the wailing death campaign decades back - but for the first time now played both Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark. I knew people said the dlc campaigns were good - but wow, I loved them - and fell in love with Deekin too, he's legitimately my favourite bard now - bar none.
I loved it and NWN2 when I was younger, but boy have they not aged well. Also good and burnt out on the pseudo-turn based combat style. Really a shame though, because they were some of my favorites back in the day.
@@SimuLord I mean.. yeah, it's literally based on D&D both mechanically and narratively. They're pretty transparent about that too, and were heralded as the ultimate digital take on tabletop gaming. Not sure why you expected otherwise.
I CANNOT deal with Barbas’ barking constantly. I’d rather deal with his human voice. But he constantly gets in the way and never shuts up, so I just end up telling him to fuck off until I can finish the quest.
LoL, I pretty much will never "fast travel" in Skyrim, that ridiculous barking made me ignore my self imposed rule, and fast travel to be rid of him ASAP.
The 'what happens to your horse thing' is exactly why I usually save Hamish's last mission for the epilogue. Sure Hamish's death loses some of it's impact with John but I'd also feel really guilty getting his horse killed after promising to take care of him lol
Every time I think about keeping Barbas while playing Skyrim, that feeling is almost immediately thrown out as he is a solid block of an NPC; always pushing me when trying to sneak around or blocking doorways worse than any humanoid companion ever could.
Greatly pleased to see Geneforge here! And Jane is absolutely correct, it’s a victimless crime. Besides, no matter what class you choose, you are from the Shaper Sect and therefore you are a shaper. Is the knife not a shaper artifact? Sounds like it already has your name on it!
You should definitely finish Thops' mission though. By not doing his missions you essentially don't let him to accomplish something in his life (which is in fact huge innovative discovery as you will learn from the item description) and die for what he loves.
@@robonerd125 Even though it is golden, it is far from pure, we burn away the impurities and bring back destined death which is a good thing. Destined death being stolen was why corpses started walking around instead of going back to the tree/crucible to be reborn.
@@dominicmanester8125 yeah, destined death was stolen, from being locked up by Maliketh, Destined Death was locked away by Marika to create immortality, the reason corpses started walking around was cause it was freed by Ranni so she could commit half-die with it (and for some reason Godwynn was half-killed too, just the other way around). Its another case of Fromsofts half baked immortality lore. If you fix the ring, people die for good again, and as far as i know, you fix the ring in all endings except dung eater's and flame of frenzy endings, both of which torture the immortal souls for eternity.
@@robonerd125 Nah, fixing it returns the cycle of life and death where souls return to the tree. Marika sealed death after using it on the giants out of fear that someone would use it on her or her kids. Even before the elden ring, life followed the same cycle except the tree was a crucible of life with it's own culture built around it before Marika and the outer gods came to take over by force and turn the crucible into a giant tree.
Xenoblade Chronicles 2's Torna DLC has a number of sidequests where you can recruit people to come to Torna to help Addam's party fight Malos, the most memorable of which to me were these two children from another Titan who's father had left and mother had died so you can reunite them with their dad and everybody's happy. Then you remember this is a prequel DLC and not only does the Torna titan sink and a _lot_ of people die, the survivors are later hunted down by the evil pope. Some of whom are captured and subjected to horrific human experiments! So just....maybe don't do the sidequests.
Thank you very much for mentioning Geneforge 1 - Mutagen! Was quite a laugh! Finishing the Inerny quest also gives xp, so I suggest returning the knife when you're done with it.
Yeah. First round, I sided with Pheobe. Wow. For some ungodly reason, I did NOT see it coming when I should have. Like standing on train tracks, watching the light get closer and the horn get louder but shrug and say "Eh. It's fine.". Since then, I just let her be mad at me.
@@FallenAngelHiroko To be fair, I also thought, since they're the last one alive, they might just have been immune to the plague. And they promised to keep their distances. Neither the player nor Pheobe got sick either. I was truely shocked when I heared that the plague spread.
In Gothic 2 there is a side quest where you are send (by Lord Andre i think) to track down the Thiefs Guild in the city of Khorinis, if you finish the quest the whole guild will be soon killed (or you can even kill them yourself) and you get some small reward (some gold and exp), but if you never finish it you can join the Guild, get new side quests (mostly about stealing things), help and training from the guild members, and you can sell some goods for better prices. So the choice is quite easy!
I feel like you could put ANY of the friendly NPCs in Elden Ring on this list an-waaaaait a minute…that list has already been done! As for The Blood Fever, I was expecting you guys to put “One Very Bad Day” xD
While you might not use thoppe’s barrier still carry a staff in an offhand with it memorized. Your ghost clone now can instantly swap weapons to devour any magic cast at him, and gains missile swords for it.
Holy crap! I did not expect to see *Geneforge* on any mainstream channel. I love Spiderweb software and it's nice to see them get noticed on a larger stage.
One side quest I have always avoided was/is in Final Fantasy XIV. After finishing “A Realm Reborn” you can find a quest called “The Greatest Story Never Told”. A whole bunch of puzzles and teleporting to get only 10 Gil after being told it’s an amazing treasure.
Skyrim, the final quest in the Thieves Guild Line. You can either give the powerful, unbreakable lockpick back to Nocturnal in trade for one of a few okayish perks, or you can keep it and not have to grind out levels in lockpicking or waste money on lockpicks.,
if i correctly remember in gta3 there was the "phone booth" quest for smaller gangs and if you finish the last of them they all start to hate you and shoot you on sight. I'm remembering loading the older save because of that.
oh, it's possible to get her back, but it's a pain in the butt. just re-do the mission where you first captured her... SIX TIMES. i think that's how many. the name of that mission will eventually change to "reunion", then do it once more.
an old favourite game I had as a kid was Darkstone whenever I made a new game in Darkstone I'd always restart over and over until the first campaign quest I got was the horn of plenty quest. and I'd never turn in the horn of plenty itself for the one-of-a-set endgame McGuffin because you could do it any time, and a magic cornucopia that literally produces infinite food in a game with a hunger mechanic is so much more useful, especially early doors, than a useless gemstone. I'll only need that gemstone when I face the big bad dragon at the end of the game! And that's AGES away! so let's just hope I don't forget...
Oh man... Darkstone, that takes me back. It came out after the first Diablo but before Diablo 2 and was basically Dollar Store Diablo, but it felt so much better and was less Memory Card intensive on my PS1. I may have to revisit that game soon.
As for the veteran in RDR2 I always just do all the missions except the last one as Arthur. Then as John I finish the story. Hamish and John have a moment where they reminisce about Arthur it's a nice scene. You also get to keep Buell forever as John.
One that comes to mind for me is the Van Graff’s in new vegas If you steal the armour from the box outside the store then it counts as a quest item until you complete or fail the quest (siding with Cass). It’s real useful for some early protection in stuff like Dead Money because it doesn’t get taken from you
Completing all the side missions for any character in Elden Ring results in a sympathetic NPC or suffering some other horrible fate. Usually the same character who was giving you missions.
You get a better weapon in Geneforge eventually. That isn't exactly a quest that you'd NEVER complete, but one you're better off DELAYING completing. You get to have the knife for a while, then once you find something better, turn it in.
It is, I feel, genuinely impossible to tire of Oxboxtra sarcastically speedrunning the overwhelming intricacies of difficult and long quests. And if you finished this lengthy comment, per Ellen, you’re allowed to have one of these for the endorphins *dun na na naaaa*
Grateful to the one gamer friend years back who warned me not to do the 4th "Veteran" RDR2 mission til the epilogue (and didn't tell me what the epilogue was either).
Arcanum, Half-Ogre Island, Possibly even better to not pick up the quest in the first place. One of the few quests to evoke a visceral feeling of disgust in any game.
Amazing how powerful the end of Arthur's story arc was. Just seeing that split second of his death scene brought back the sorrow of the moment all over again
7:48, There is a solution to the lack of stealth, completely abandon him and make a bee line for the cave, you'll find him already there, go in and then just let him run ahead and go stealthy after he's lost you, at the end you find him somehow going toe to toe with a dozen or so enemies.
Part of a Daedric prince going toe-to-toe with a handful of lowly vampires who are just desperate for a cure and happens to be at a shine dedicated to said prince. Yeah... somehow.
@@insaincaldo Sure if there was only a few of them, I'm pretty sure I found him going mono o' mono with like 7 or 8 of them at least - didn't count them as I didn't care enough to do so, just opted to get on with the sq and be done with it... was tempted to lop his head off though :)
Good job with the Geneforge mention. I know this was a commenter video, but still. I've been a fan of the developers since I first played Exile III and want their products to get as much exposure as possible. 👍
My playthrough of Hamish's missions was even more tragic. I really liked my current horse (Pony Curtis), so I figured I would stable Buell and go back to my original. Then I decided to go off of the trail on the HUD, misjudged the slope on a hill, and, well, rolled Buell to his death. I legit cried, although in my defense, I was near the end of the base game and was cleaning up as many side missions as possible, so I was already pretty upset about Arthur's condition, and this just put me over the top.
My suggestion for Skyrim is The Forsworn Conspiracy, as even after a decade of releases, upgrades, patches, etc. It still hangs my game when trying to complete it. (Literally happened last night to me).
Sidebar, I just realized I remember when the commenter edition videos started. I think this channel and OXtra are my longest follows where I still watch new content.
Thops managed to create a sorcery that's defensive instead of offensive, the only one in the game that can't hurt other people. He could have started a new conspectus. :(
Man I love the Barbaros sidequest. I was stuck forever trying to fight the vampires, and I was able to fit it easily with his help. Didn't know you could keep him.
Tempted to grab "Jade Empire" while it's on sale in the xbox store. Had "Neverwinter Nights" on my old PC back then and played the hell out of it online with friends, but never got to play "Jade Empire."
Shadow ghost is so relatable lol. Playing divinity right now and every character has some level of summoning. My MC is just a straight up summoner, he spends most of his turns summoning totems of which I usually have about twenty. Because all four characters can make them.
Neverwinter Nights was one of the first video games I ever played. I was super stoked to see it in a list video! But then you started throwing shade at licorice jellybeans (aka the beat jellybean) and now I dont know how to feel.
8:35 Well, correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure some notes slipped from Luke's desk to Andy's, unless Andy is actually Luke's ghost clone or vice versa ;p
@@Nynzy it's not the footage actually! It's the words, Andy says exactly the same thing as Luke in another video on Elden Ring! But I agree that some time, you have to re-use some material, especially when you post videos as often as OxBox and OxTra do!
The one that I hated was the lady parts of Brothers where you follow the girl in the cave. I know where it leads and it will leave some people if not everyone shedding a tear.
Old, old, old game but Illusion of Gaia on SNES. There's a sidequest to collect red jewels which were scattered throughout the game and you turn them into a guy in the starting town for various rewards after different amounts of red jewels have been turned in. Well, if you collect 100%, you learn he's a villain so it is a bonus boss fight, but also in order to get 100%, there is one quest where there is a town with slave trade going on and you have to tell a guard where the escaped slave is in exchange for a red crystal.
Can you do a video titled 7 times your best friend or friend was a boss or the final boss? Five suggestions for this list is Riku from Kingdom Hearts Pixy from Ace Combat 0 The Belkan War, any Undertale character, Gunther from Fire Emblem Fates Revelation, and Edelgard,Dimitri, and/or Claude (depending on the route you choice) from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
Wasn't really a side question but it sure felt like a 6+ hour long side quest to me was when you have to play as Abby in The Last of Us 2. Switching over to her at a very tense and climactic part of the game just took the wind out of my sails. I didn't like her and just had a hard time trying to care about all of her friends I just spent the previous 10 hours murdering. Didn't help that if she got into any sort of dangerous situations I knew she was going to make it out fine since she was still alive when she confronted Ellie. Great video as always, didn't think I could love Andy any more, but here we are.
One side quest that you shouldn’t even _start_ is helping Granny Rags in Dishonored. If you’re going for a no killing run you can soft-lock yourself during the first mission after your escape. In Dunwall if you help little old Granny Rags deal with her “gentlemen callers” she’ll reward you handsomely (if memory serves she gives you a total of like 300 coin and 3 or 4 runes). Perfect when trying to buy quieter gear and stealthier powers. But if you interact with her _at all_ then during the Dunwall Sewers mission you’ll run into a decision where you _must_ either kill Slackjaw or Granny Rags. There isn’t a nonlethal option. [edit: a no killing, never detected run. I.e. “clean hands + ghost + mostly flesh and steel” all at once… yes I did that.]
You can actually just run to the cauldron thing and it does kill her but doesn’t count as a kill. I did her quest line on a no kill run and got the achievement. It’ll ruin a ghost run that’s it.
Actually, I did that mission and got the clean hands achievement. You can get the key to escape and just leg it without any killing. I can't remember exactly where I went, (up into her house?) and then ran out of the gate.
I think you can leave Slackjaw to his fate and pickpocket the key from her and maintain ghost/clean hands. However now I have those achievements, Granny's days are numbered...
When I saw borderlands 2 I was thinking, “oh this must be the quest that gives the grog nozzle, the best healing gun (or only healing gun) in the game” didn’t expect it would be the bullymong quest.
Mayor Lewis's Purple Shorts in Stardew Valley. There's a bunch of fun easter eggs you can do with them, including wearing them in front of him, and blackmailing him at the Stardew Valley Fair for easy points.
In my first playthrough of RDR2 I was doing a high honor run and did Hamish's quests as Arthur and was using Buell for the rest of the game so I had max bond with him when my horse got kill I stopped playing for a bit before continuing then stopping again when Arthur died Edit: With Skyrim if you do the same with the Dawnguard quest get Serana and never take her to see her father she remains a permanent companion
@@maximaldinotrap True but if you take her to her father you lose having her as a permanent follower so if you start both you can have 2 followers with you without the use of mods
Unless you skip Hamish's last quest as Arthur and do it as John instead, Hamish is older and you get a cutscene of him showing John what Arthur caught.
yeah, I did it that way. John and Hamish get to reminisce about Arthur, and it felt like the "right" way for that plotline to end. Still a sad ending but a little more bittersweet.
plus I guess that approach means Hamish gets to live some extra years.
I didn't know that. 😭
I guess it's time to replay RDR2 again
Yeah and you get to make sure his horse is safe with you rather than out in the wild when Arthur goes
WHAT
I get Buell as early as I can and let him die on Arthur’s last mission with max affinity. Then it’s like Arthur gets to have one more moment with Hamish.
Mine is definitely the weird side quest in RDR2 where you have to do missions that always fail for some idiot called Dutch. I just avoid them and continue playing the main quest of being a cowboy.
Wish i knew that.....
Some "plan" he had.
I see what you did there…. 😃
Yeah and the permanent idiot ball Micah who magically makes characters stupid just for being near him. Even the first time I seriously didn’t want to rescue him and often leave him to rot for a really really long time. Wish they didn’t do that mission because I really doubt Arthur would let Micah out and just claim the town hanged him before he could get there. When he starts blasting everyone, this is doubled, a ‘high honour’ Arthur would just let Micah die to the hornet nest he kicked up.
Dont you wanna go to Tahiti tho ?
"It was already stolen... now it's just stolen by me"
Classic Jane 🤣
"You were supposed to capture the thieves, not join them!"
What really got me about the “bonerfart” naming thing was that the pups were named “bonertoots” 😆😆😆
If they‘re angry are they „raging bonerfarts“?🤣
Luckily, Skyrim can often make sure you never need to finish a side quest by just having the questline glitch out in some way
One theory about Thop's unfortunate demise and the one I subscribe to is that he died from exhaustion: the spell was his life's work, but was rejected by his elitist peers and dismissed as a bluntstone. Thops perfected his theory, this power he discovered, after pushing himself to his limit. I still pay my respects to Thops whenever I'm passing through the Academy as my sorceress character: of all the scholars in the Academy, Thops was more worthy of the stone crown than any of them.
It’s also worth mentioning that if you look at the lore/usability of the spell is actually incredible. There’s a similar spell called “Carian Retaliation” that also blocks spells and is generally better… but Thops’ spell can block Incantations. This means that the spell can block sorceries AND faith based abilities, it really is a major breakthrough.
@@karmicrespite5737 Yep, yep! Thop's barrier actually holds it's own against some of the final bosses' attacks if timed right: it's a true breakthrough and I only wish he or future mages could build upon it further.
I personally find the idea that some of the mages murdered him funny, because sure now he finished his awesome anti mage spell, but they still batter you with books and make effective use of those heavy stone crowns.
@@insaincaldo "Headbutt competition!"
(WHOMP)
"You lose!"
@@insaincaldo I think this might actually be the case. I think they murdered him for coming up with a new conspectus they didn't totally vibe with.
I'm not sure if it's a side quest, but in Mass Effect 3, you're able to make choices involving people at the station. One is involving someone with PTSD in therapy. If you go to a certain point in the hospital enough times, She tells her therapist that she'd feel safer with a gun and the therapist tells her she'll send someone a request to see if she can make that happen. If you choose to let her have a gun, she takes her own life with it. It doesn't affect the story, but it's a bit depressing.
Man i remember that little side bit, but i never let her have the gun so i didnt know she did that, but i suspected it would
yeah shes the one who felt guilty over killing Joker's sister
Wait, doesn't it damage your war assets? I thought she killed some other people before turning it on herself. I could be confusing her with Rana Thanoptis though.
I remember this... and as someone who suffered from PTSD it hit hard~
@@Nynzy I'm sorry to hear that dude. Hope life is treating you OK.
NPCs in Elden Ring never die at the end of their side quests, they just turn into some cool talisman I can wear or a ball of spirit to give to the husk so I can still shop with them, it's a win-win!
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I just did a kill all NPCs new game plus run. It was great. No more hunting items down, the twins have it all!
If you fix the reincarnation cycle at the end of the game, you can at least ensure they'll be reborn into a better world. Unless you sided with Dung Eater for some reason, in which case their accursed souls will wander forever. What did you expect from a guy named Dung Eater?
yeah.......plus when i become elden lord i can bring them back and make them immortal.....at least i think that i can.
@@minstrelofmoria I expected an important part of the ecosystem and was deeply disappointed
When Arthur stays with his horse and thanks him before he does it's one of the saddest parts of RDR2 and started the tears rolling
same........such a beautiful game.
There's one side quest I will always feel bad about completing in Ori and the Will of the Wisps. After building the first houses in the glades, a Moki outside one of the houses asks you to tell his family that there's a new home for them and gives you the key to his house. But when you get to their house in Silent Woods, you find them turned to stone and take his childs stuffed animal back to him in the glades. The quest ends with him running back home, never to be seen again. Though, if you visit the house... You'll find him there with his family, turned to stone. Oh, and fun fact, when you check the quest in the completed quest menu, it calls it a good deed, despite the fact you just sent this Moki to his death. If you never complete the quest, he'll never know anything happened to his family and that's probably for the best.
HOLY HECK, seeing Geneforge on a list here is something I'd never thought I'd see. The moment I saw the "Find stolen knife", I was vaulted back to my childhood playing that game. Absolutely wonderful seeing the game get some love here on this channel! :D
There are several quests in _Skyrim_ that you might not want to complete for various reasons -- let's see, right off the top of my head there are:
* "The Blessings of Nature" - if you gave Danica the sapling, the game forgets to remove the "dead Gildergleam" model from the plaza before adding the new one to replace it. It's so incredibly obvious but has never been (officially) patched.
* "Paarthurnax" - Delphine inevitably asks you to slay this dragon. You CAN choose to just ... y'know, NOT go kill the dragon, but you can't officially "opt out" of the quest in your journal and you can't do any _other_ Blades quests while this one is still active.
* "Darkness Returns" - The Daedric artifact of Nocturnal, the "Skeleton Key", functions as an unbreakable lockpick. So, just how important is it to return this unique item to the Temple of Nocturnal? Depends in part on your (the player's) skill at Skyrim's lockpicking minigame, and whether or not you want the "unbreakable" perk at the top of the Lockpicking skill tree.
they already covered the skeleton key one in a previous video
Somewhere along the many versions of Skyrim, there was a "fix" implemented for Paarthunax that removed the quest if Paarthunax is alive at the end of Dragonslayer. As for the Blades, they will not work with you if Paarthunax lives. The opposite is true of the monks.
The Skeleton key is worthless when by that point in the game you should have hundreds of lock picks that breaking picks means nothing. Besides it locks you out of three powerful powers for a very minor convenience.
Well, on the Switch version at least, the controller makes a small rumble when I reach the sweet spot that lets me successfully unlock whatever it is I'm lockpicking. Therefore, I don't really need the Skeleton Key, just my natural skills as a thief. 😏
@@azazeltheundyingdamienkali5700 Isn't that rumble standard on consoles, and typical just for moving the pick around?
Honestly I think “Side Quests You Should Never Finish” is the theme of Elden Ring
A FromSoft guarantee.
fromsoft: no you don't get joy only suffering..........now go d13!
@@ddjsoyenby I mean, if you find an easily missable item you can give Boc a happy ending. You just need to find a way for your character to boost his self esteem (trying to keep it semi-spoiler free).
A couple characters live, at least.
But you should . That the way to gather all their ash in one place so you don't have to teleport every where to buy item you need
Hearing Jane say "boner fart" was pure magic.
Certainly the highlight of my year
I CAME 🤷♂️
If Borderlands was my style of game, I'd definitely do the quest! "Bonerfarts" is an awesome name! It's the epitome of "Well, we've ran out of fucking ideas, but there's no shame in that!"
3:46
I'm just glad that on Earth, it takes just a simple prescription to get rid of bonerfarts, and not an automatic weapon.
in Elden Ring one of the characters you can meet is Sorceress Sellen, you first encounter her in some ruins in the weeping peninsula who allows you to become her apprentice and learn glintstone spells from her. At the conclusion of her questline, you either kill her with the help of Jerren or she's transformed into a school of graven mages.
My pick is Oblivion, the Brothers' Separated at Birth questline. You can get it in the very beginning. It gets you the Honorblade of Chorrol, an ebony sword that can't break, is weightless, and deals its damage as magic so it ignores armor and harms ghosts and such that are only harmed by spells with no weapon charging nessesary. You can even grab it at the start, never level up, an go crazy as a character fighting level 1 and 2 enemies with your endgame-level weapon as it spawns as an ebony sword no matter your level. The quest never times out or cancels, so completionists can just save finishing it for the very end of their game. Something to think about if Skyblivion happens before ESVI.
it always bugs me when you have missions that take away really useful items, especially since they often dont tell you finishing the mission removes it from your inventory so you finish it expecting a reward and instead they take away a useful item and give you something far less useful.
Can tell they made quest items that way specifically because of how terrible they were in Morrowind, but they didn't consider the consequences of doing so.
@@davidmcgill1000 I miss how crazy morrowind items could get. Like those scrolls that let you jump a few miles in a single bound like superman if he was a soft squishy level 1 player character instead of an indestructible demigod.
Jane saying "Johnny you love us really" after saying they screw them over reminds me too much of my players both in d&d and real life 👍
That was where this vid earned my like
You forgot another one for Borderlands 2. In the Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragons Keep, there is a quest where Claptrap wants a beard for his wizard look and in starting the quest you will be given one of the best pistols in the game: The Grog Nozzle.
It's a Moxie Gun with the ability to heal the character and usually always comes in Slag, which boosts your damage of other gun types.
The gun will also not only heal you, but you might also have your shots multiply like you are seeing double when drunk.
But as soon as you turn in the quest, you lose the gun and cannot get a permanent version anywhere else
They did that one already
I remember that quest! I loved that gun!
Essential for Salvador. Paired with an Unkempt Harold I used to tank everything
"2023 is the year of not finishing things" MY TIME HAS COME
You merely adopted the unfinishing, I was born into it.
*hides story universes that I should be writing*
@@fireblade295 A kindred spirit! ...my condolences
Nice to see a Spiderweb game (Geneforge) get a mention in a list. Makes be nostalgic to go back and replay one of the Avernum series.
I've just been getting back into Avernum, and I feel like it holds up shockingly well!
i got the full geneforge game set both vershions of 1 and 2 to 5 and love the games. my first runescape acc was named after the first fire lizards you can make
I imagine Andy wailing like that at the tragic end of every tragic mission in RDR2. Which means Andy is tearfully wailing a lot. We feel your pain Andy.
Somewhere, Johnny just felt a chill run up his spine for no apparent reason.
Bruh, if someone's cat is missing, I am ALWAYS ready to help find them!
Fun fact: Both Clavicus Vile and Barbas are voiced by the same voice actor.
tbf half the game is voiced by the same voice actor lol
@@penteractgaming LMAO
@@SimuLord If both voice actors are still alive by the time the game is made.
Also the voice of Nick Valentine from Fallout 4
@@SimuLord “Easter Egg”, or “just how it’s made”.
I definitely agree with the Red Dead 2 selection. I was sad when Hamish died😭
Also coming back to complete the 4th part after the epilogue leads to some nice interaction
Thank you. This channel has provided me with hours of entertainment and allowed me to see more games than I'll ever be able to play. I was really depressed but watching these videos has actually cheered me up. I appreciate the time and effort put into them and I'm very glad videos are still being made years later.
Really appreciate the love for Neverwinter Nights! Genuinely one of my favourite games of all time.
I completely agree. NWN was my intro into fantasy RPGs and my (late) teens. I played that game for hours on end, downloaded modules from NWVault, made a few very short modules of my own. I still have the name of my first character that I use in other games.
I love it, was also pleasantly surprised to see it here. I just played through the whole enhanced edition last year, i'd played a bunch of the wailing death campaign decades back - but for the first time now played both Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark. I knew people said the dlc campaigns were good - but wow, I loved them - and fell in love with Deekin too, he's legitimately my favourite bard now - bar none.
I love it too but this one just makes no sense.
I loved it and NWN2 when I was younger, but boy have they not aged well. Also good and burnt out on the pseudo-turn based combat style. Really a shame though, because they were some of my favorites back in the day.
@@SimuLord I mean.. yeah, it's literally based on D&D both mechanically and narratively. They're pretty transparent about that too, and were heralded as the ultimate digital take on tabletop gaming. Not sure why you expected otherwise.
I CANNOT deal with Barbas’ barking constantly. I’d rather deal with his human voice. But he constantly gets in the way and never shuts up, so I just end up telling him to fuck off until I can finish the quest.
Barbas once pushed me off a cliff, I gave him back and took the Masque
LoL, I pretty much will never "fast travel" in Skyrim, that ridiculous barking made me ignore my self imposed rule, and fast travel to be rid of him ASAP.
11:47 in the words of Johnny: "Alfred Strangetide did not have it coming!"
Apparently I need to give in to peer pressure and finally watch those dnd streams
The 'what happens to your horse thing' is exactly why I usually save Hamish's last mission for the epilogue.
Sure Hamish's death loses some of it's impact with John but I'd also feel really guilty getting his horse killed after promising to take care of him lol
usually i get the horse as arthur and ride with him to the final mission, purely because then they can all reunite after. (in my mind)
Every time I think about keeping Barbas while playing Skyrim, that feeling is almost immediately thrown out as he is a solid block of an NPC; always pushing me when trying to sneak around or blocking doorways worse than any humanoid companion ever could.
Yeah without mods pets are annoying enough with being more in the way, but the worst by far are the sounds of war dogs, Barbas included.
Greatly pleased to see Geneforge here! And Jane is absolutely correct, it’s a victimless crime. Besides, no matter what class you choose, you are from the Shaper Sect and therefore you are a shaper. Is the knife not a shaper artifact? Sounds like it already has your name on it!
I love how proud of himself andy is for the ending bit. 😂
That was pretty funny
Love seeing Geneforge on this list. More people should know about Spiderweb games! They've been pumping out classics since the shareware days.
You should definitely finish Thops' mission though. By not doing his missions you essentially don't let him to accomplish something in his life (which is in fact huge innovative discovery as you will learn from the item description) and die for what he loves.
Is it just me or could you feel the sarcasm radiating through the screen from Jane in entry 1? :)
I just wanna say I'm always surprised by Jane's fashion displays on this show. She has a lot of drip in that wardrobe.
On my playthrough of RDR 2 I happened to not finish that quest just before he got impaled. So glad I inadvertently saved myself years of Trauma.
Finishing Thops quest is a good option, he manages to complete his life's work. He will be reborn from the tree anyway eventually.
you burn the tree though, and return destined death to the ring, so no.
@@robonerd125 Even though it is golden, it is far from pure, we burn away the impurities and bring back destined death which is a good thing. Destined death being stolen was why corpses started walking around instead of going back to the tree/crucible to be reborn.
@@dominicmanester8125 yeah, destined death was stolen, from being locked up by Maliketh, Destined Death was locked away by Marika to create immortality, the reason corpses started walking around was cause it was freed by Ranni so she could commit half-die with it (and for some reason Godwynn was half-killed too, just the other way around). Its another case of Fromsofts half baked immortality lore. If you fix the ring, people die for good again, and as far as i know, you fix the ring in all endings except dung eater's and flame of frenzy endings, both of which torture the immortal souls for eternity.
@@robonerd125 Nah, fixing it returns the cycle of life and death where souls return to the tree.
Marika sealed death after using it on the giants out of fear that someone would use it on her or her kids.
Even before the elden ring, life followed the same cycle except the tree was a crucible of life with it's own culture built around it before Marika and the outer gods came to take over by force and turn the crucible into a giant tree.
It's a fun experience to feel like we're back in 2005 because of the way this video was shot, while talking about modern games.
Xenoblade Chronicles 2's Torna DLC has a number of sidequests where you can recruit people to come to Torna to help Addam's party fight Malos, the most memorable of which to me were these two children from another Titan who's father had left and mother had died so you can reunite them with their dad and everybody's happy.
Then you remember this is a prequel DLC and not only does the Torna titan sink and a _lot_ of people die, the survivors are later hunted down by the evil pope. Some of whom are captured and subjected to horrific human experiments! So just....maybe don't do the sidequests.
The entirety of the Torna DLC is a train wreck if you play the main game 1st.
You forgot to mention that the story quest in the DLC are locked until you do a specific number of Sidequests in that DLC.
Thank you very much for mentioning Geneforge 1 - Mutagen! Was quite a laugh! Finishing the Inerny quest also gives xp, so I suggest returning the knife when you're done with it.
Jane is rocking that retro 80s style jaguar print sweater! Kudos to you! Love it!
The gratification of watching Jane look right into the camera while saying "Bonerfarts" cannot be overstated
To be fair, the only thing that happens if you leave the family to their fate is thay pheobe is mad at you for a short time
Yeah. First round, I sided with Pheobe. Wow. For some ungodly reason, I did NOT see it coming when I should have. Like standing on train tracks, watching the light get closer and the horn get louder but shrug and say "Eh. It's fine.". Since then, I just let her be mad at me.
@@FallenAngelHiroko To be fair, I also thought, since they're the last one alive, they might just have been immune to the plague. And they promised to keep their distances. Neither the player nor Pheobe got sick either.
I was truely shocked when I heared that the plague spread.
if I ever get a pet Bonerfart, I'll name him Napoleon.
GENIOUS
andy's beard-trimming game is on point 👍
Looks like he may be trying to sneak in a tache. Looks good
The stache is really working for him
In Gothic 2 there is a side quest where you are send (by Lord Andre i think) to track down the Thiefs Guild in the city of Khorinis, if you finish the quest the whole guild will be soon killed (or you can even kill them yourself) and you get some small reward (some gold and exp), but if you never finish it you can join the Guild, get new side quests (mostly about stealing things), help and training from the guild members, and you can sell some goods for better prices. So the choice is quite easy!
Siegmeyer of Catarina in DS was one of the saddest questlines.
I feel like you could put ANY of the friendly NPCs in Elden Ring on this list an-waaaaait a minute…that list has already been done! As for The Blood Fever, I was expecting you guys to put “One Very Bad Day” xD
I don’t even think it’s limited to Elden Ring, but more like FromSoft games in general 😂.
I saw "Penhold Staff" and read it as "Penfold Staff" and wondered if the quest ended by telling the staff to shush.
Oh, crumbs.
@@SimuLord You’re welcome. Though…I kinda wish the last time I saw him wasn’t as a character in a kart racing game. (I WISH I WAS KIDDING!!!)
While you might not use thoppe’s barrier still carry a staff in an offhand with it memorized. Your ghost clone now can instantly swap weapons to devour any magic cast at him, and gains missile swords for it.
Holy crap! I did not expect to see *Geneforge* on any mainstream channel. I love Spiderweb software and it's nice to see them get noticed on a larger stage.
One side quest I have always avoided was/is in Final Fantasy XIV. After finishing “A Realm Reborn” you can find a quest called “The Greatest Story Never Told”. A whole bunch of puzzles and teleporting to get only 10 Gil after being told it’s an amazing treasure.
Fool! The treasure isnt the gil, it's the fun you had along the way, And the frustration!
Jane saying the phrase “Bonerfart” is something I didn’t know I needed in my life until today 😂
Skyrim, the final quest in the Thieves Guild Line. You can either give the powerful, unbreakable lockpick back to Nocturnal in trade for one of a few okayish perks, or you can keep it and not have to grind out levels in lockpicking or waste money on lockpicks.,
At that point in the game, if you haven't maxed out lockpicking, you weren't even trying.
if i correctly remember in gta3 there was the "phone booth" quest for smaller gangs and if you finish the last of them they all start to hate you and shoot you on sight.
I'm remembering loading the older save because of that.
Metal Gear Solid 5 has a side quest where you'll lose Quiet as a party member. That's definitely one I wouldn't finish.
oh, it's possible to get her back, but it's a pain in the butt.
just re-do the mission where you first captured her...
SIX TIMES.
i think that's how many.
the name of that mission will eventually change to "reunion", then do it once more.
Oh Andy... You need to finish Hamish's questline in the Epilogue. Buell can live forever
an old favourite game I had as a kid was Darkstone
whenever I made a new game in Darkstone I'd always restart over and over until the first campaign quest I got was the horn of plenty quest. and I'd never turn in the horn of plenty itself for the one-of-a-set endgame McGuffin because you could do it any time, and a magic cornucopia that literally produces infinite food in a game with a hunger mechanic is so much more useful, especially early doors, than a useless gemstone.
I'll only need that gemstone when I face the big bad dragon at the end of the game! And that's AGES away! so let's just hope I don't forget...
Oh man... Darkstone, that takes me back. It came out after the first Diablo but before Diablo 2 and was basically Dollar Store Diablo, but it felt so much better and was less Memory Card intensive on my PS1. I may have to revisit that game soon.
@@rpgaholic8202 I wish I could but I keep getting an annoying bug that makes it rather unplayable DX
As for the veteran in RDR2 I always just do all the missions except the last one as Arthur. Then as John I finish the story. Hamish and John have a moment where they reminisce about Arthur it's a nice scene. You also get to keep Buell forever as John.
Perfect timing! I was just rewatching an older video
One that comes to mind for me is the Van Graff’s in new vegas
If you steal the armour from the box outside the store then it counts as a quest item until you complete or fail the quest (siding with Cass). It’s real useful for some early protection in stuff like Dead Money because it doesn’t get taken from you
Completing all the side missions for any character in Elden Ring results in a sympathetic NPC or suffering some other horrible fate. Usually the same character who was giving you missions.
You get a better weapon in Geneforge eventually. That isn't exactly a quest that you'd NEVER complete, but one you're better off DELAYING completing. You get to have the knife for a while, then once you find something better, turn it in.
It is, I feel, genuinely impossible to tire of Oxboxtra sarcastically speedrunning the overwhelming intricacies of difficult and long quests.
And if you finished this lengthy comment, per Ellen, you’re allowed to have one of these for the endorphins *dun na na naaaa*
Fun thing about Clavicus Vile. It's pretty much cannon that he doesn't actually intend to be malicious. He's just really bad at making a fair deal.
Didn't think I'd ever hear Jane say "bonerfart". I'm glad I was wrong.
I kept waiting for one of them to be renamed Napoleon Bonerfart, but I was sadly disappointed...
@@psyraven76 Oh that would've been cool! A tiny, overconfident, French bullymong chasing you around the map could have been great fun.
the Family Reunion sidequest from Ori and the Will of the Wisps
I was bawling at the end
I’m glad that I’m not the only one who is still upset with the ending of chapter 6 in RDR2.
Grateful to the one gamer friend years back who warned me not to do the 4th "Veteran" RDR2 mission til the epilogue (and didn't tell me what the epilogue was either).
Arcanum, Half-Ogre Island, Possibly even better to not pick up the quest in the first place. One of the few quests to evoke a visceral feeling of disgust in any game.
Amazing how powerful the end of Arthur's story arc was. Just seeing that split second of his death scene brought back the sorrow of the moment all over again
Well… consider me spoiled lol.
7:48, There is a solution to the lack of stealth, completely abandon him and make a bee line for the cave, you'll find him already there, go in and then just let him run ahead and go stealthy after he's lost you, at the end you find him somehow going toe to toe with a dozen or so enemies.
Part of a Daedric prince going toe-to-toe with a handful of lowly vampires who are just desperate for a cure and happens to be at a shine dedicated to said prince. Yeah... somehow.
@@insaincaldo Sure if there was only a few of them, I'm pretty sure I found him going mono o' mono with like 7 or 8 of them at least - didn't count them as I didn't care enough to do so, just opted to get on with the sq and be done with it... was tempted to lop his head off though :)
Even on good days, I cannot stand the dreadful and almost constant barking and being tripped or pushed by the Dogs in "Skyrim".
Good job with the Geneforge mention. I know this was a commenter video, but still. I've been a fan of the developers since I first played Exile III and want their products to get as much exposure as possible. 👍
My playthrough of Hamish's missions was even more tragic. I really liked my current horse (Pony Curtis), so I figured I would stable Buell and go back to my original. Then I decided to go off of the trail on the HUD, misjudged the slope on a hill, and, well, rolled Buell to his death. I legit cried, although in my defense, I was near the end of the base game and was cleaning up as many side missions as possible, so I was already pretty upset about Arthur's condition, and this just put me over the top.
My suggestion for Skyrim is The Forsworn Conspiracy, as even after a decade of releases, upgrades, patches, etc. It still hangs my game when trying to complete it. (Literally happened last night to me).
Sidebar, I just realized I remember when the commenter edition videos started. I think this channel and OXtra are my longest follows where I still watch new content.
Thops managed to create a sorcery that's defensive instead of offensive, the only one in the game that can't hurt other people. He could have started a new conspectus. :(
Man I love the Barbaros sidequest. I was stuck forever trying to fight the vampires, and I was able to fit it easily with his help. Didn't know you could keep him.
Neverwinter nights... Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
Tempted to grab "Jade Empire" while it's on sale in the xbox store. Had "Neverwinter Nights" on my old PC back then and played the hell out of it online with friends, but never got to play "Jade Empire."
Shadow ghost is so relatable lol. Playing divinity right now and every character has some level of summoning. My MC is just a straight up summoner, he spends most of his turns summoning totems of which I usually have about twenty. Because all four characters can make them.
...The primly postured Ms. Jane Douglas perfectly pronouncing 'bonerfart' had me cackling much harder than it should.
Neverwinter Nights was one of the first video games I ever played. I was super stoked to see it in a list video! But then you started throwing shade at licorice jellybeans (aka the beat jellybean) and now I dont know how to feel.
8:35 Well, correct me if I'm wrong but pretty sure some notes slipped from Luke's desk to Andy's, unless Andy is actually Luke's ghost clone or vice versa ;p
Hey if they have the footage from another member of the team, use it!~~ xD
@@Nynzy it's not the footage actually! It's the words, Andy says exactly the same thing as Luke in another video on Elden Ring! But I agree that some time, you have to re-use some material, especially when you post videos as often as OxBox and OxTra do!
@@casualgameuz7639 yeah, 7 Elden Ring NPCs Whose Lives you Ruined
I was not expecting Clavvy V. Excellent.
I forgot who, but they actually used hand sanitizer during the plague; they had ~corner stones which held vinegar.
In borderlands, if you ignore the Quest of Scooter of visit TK Baha, TK never dies.
The one that I hated was the lady parts of Brothers where you follow the girl in the cave. I know where it leads and it will leave some people if not everyone shedding a tear.
Old, old, old game but Illusion of Gaia on SNES. There's a sidequest to collect red jewels which were scattered throughout the game and you turn them into a guy in the starting town for various rewards after different amounts of red jewels have been turned in. Well, if you collect 100%, you learn he's a villain so it is a bonus boss fight, but also in order to get 100%, there is one quest where there is a town with slave trade going on and you have to tell a guard where the escaped slave is in exchange for a red crystal.
Can you do a video titled 7 times your best friend or friend was a boss or the final boss? Five suggestions for this list is Riku from Kingdom Hearts Pixy from Ace Combat 0 The Belkan War, any Undertale character, Gunther from Fire Emblem Fates Revelation, and Edelgard,Dimitri, and/or Claude (depending on the route you choice) from Fire Emblem Three Houses.
Wasn't really a side question but it sure felt like a 6+ hour long side quest to me was when you have to play as Abby in The Last of Us 2. Switching over to her at a very tense and climactic part of the game just took the wind out of my sails.
I didn't like her and just had a hard time trying to care about all of her friends I just spent the previous 10 hours murdering. Didn't help that if she got into any sort of dangerous situations I knew she was going to make it out fine since she was still alive when she confronted Ellie.
Great video as always, didn't think I could love Andy any more, but here we are.
One side quest that you shouldn’t even _start_ is helping Granny Rags in Dishonored.
If you’re going for a no killing run you can soft-lock yourself during the first mission after your escape.
In Dunwall if you help little old Granny Rags deal with her “gentlemen callers” she’ll reward you handsomely (if memory serves she gives you a total of like 300 coin and 3 or 4 runes). Perfect when trying to buy quieter gear and stealthier powers.
But if you interact with her _at all_ then during the Dunwall Sewers mission you’ll run into a decision where you _must_ either kill Slackjaw or Granny Rags.
There isn’t a nonlethal option.
[edit: a no killing, never detected run.
I.e. “clean hands + ghost + mostly flesh and steel” all at once… yes I did that.]
_looks over at all my no kill runs_ Are you sure?
You can actually just run to the cauldron thing and it does kill her but doesn’t count as a kill. I did her quest line on a no kill run and got the achievement. It’ll ruin a ghost run that’s it.
Actually, I did that mission and got the clean hands achievement. You can get the key to escape and just leg it without any killing. I can't remember exactly where I went, (up into her house?) and then ran out of the gate.
I think you can leave Slackjaw to his fate and pickpocket the key from her and maintain ghost/clean hands. However now I have those achievements, Granny's days are numbered...
I pick Granny Rags, what with her shrivelled hand being in the sequel.
When I saw borderlands 2 I was thinking, “oh this must be the quest that gives the grog nozzle, the best healing gun (or only healing gun) in the game” didn’t expect it would be the bullymong quest.
Surprised that kill partherax wasn’t the Skyrim entry
They mentioned it before in another video~
I wonder if that would qualify for main quest, though.
Mayor Lewis's Purple Shorts in Stardew Valley. There's a bunch of fun easter eggs you can do with them, including wearing them in front of him, and blackmailing him at the Stardew Valley Fair for easy points.
In my first playthrough of RDR2 I was doing a high honor run and did Hamish's quests as Arthur and was using Buell for the rest of the game so I had max bond with him when my horse got kill I stopped playing for a bit before continuing then stopping again when Arthur died
Edit: With Skyrim if you do the same with the Dawnguard quest get Serana and never take her to see her father she remains a permanent companion
She's a follower anyway, not like you are losing out on a follower by completing Dawnguard.
@@maximaldinotrap True but if you take her to her father you lose having her as a permanent follower so if you start both you can have 2 followers with you without the use of mods
In NWN, with high enough charisma and persuasion you can finish the quest by lying and returning only the diary, while keeping the staff.
I actually go out of my way to avoid even starting A Daedra's Best Friend
The Mask isn't even worth it.