Door to door door salesmen. Going door to door selling doors. Normally this'd be hard because everyone already has doors, but because everyone has to many door to door salesmen, they need more doors.
@@comandokbra207 I know, right? That's what I first though if, as well. Feitorias would be overpowered. Portuguese for the win! even 3 feitorias would give you enough resources to dominate AND boom at the same time.
It would probablt pay off to have a couple feitoras, the idea of making profit from farms is better but it doesnt give stone and takes more time to build up. Wouldn't spanish have 20% more economy too? Looks like the iberians make the mist out of literally nothing lol
Prolly everyone would play as the Italians. Italians are OP in water, they get cheaper trading ships while the whole game would be about getting trading ships and beating others on sea.
Grey had me in stitches. "let's get all the kings in blue's castle"... seconds later... triple kill. Enjoyable match. Silly ending with everyone starved for resources. The lengths we go to for a win.
Since the moment when wood's price was less than ~4x higher than food's, they should totally build farms :O a single farm transforms 60 wood into 300+ food so instead of buing 100 food for 800 gold and 100 wood for 800 gold, you can have ~300 food for 480 gold (60 wood), profit
God I love the "____ nothing" games. All of them are interesting and unique in terms of watching it and the strategies players use. How is eBay a dead website? Lol.... my family owns a pawn shop and i can assure you its just as alive as it always has been. That being said some of the "rules" for selling and listing are absolute horseshit and also eBay will always side with the buyer in a dispute if one arises. Even if everything is _CLEARLY_ explained, photographed and documented via the seller.... doesn't matter. Can't tell you how many items we've gotten back because the buyer claims it was damaged or the wrong item when its quite obvious they just got buyers remorse. Don't be that worthless sack of shit of a person. Side note: The returned items wouldn't be bad except the seller eats the fees every time something is returned :/
note: (1:08:11) market trade food buy 821 - sell 743 wood buy 888 - sell 804 farm cost 60 wood, and can produce 550 food in imp age fully researched. if you have a corner walled in this late in game you can farm, sell it off and buy wood. the offside of this will be cheaper food for enemies
I was thinking that, I mean 20 pop space for a building that slowly gens resources? for a map like that, I mean certainly would help late game when trade becomes harder. you'll likely want to play defensively though.
If you try and convert a trade cart that has gold, it will automatically stop carrying gold and need to be retasked. A lone monk can absolutely wreck a trade route with proper micro
Settle down guys!!! 11 he's just testing this out. It's a way for UA-cam people who don't make it to twitch to have the live experience of the stream. Genius!! Thanks t90! You the pointy man!!
I love the Nothing maps, please keep uploading, while i rarely ever get to catch you live I often watch these long videos while eating. Thanks for the content
Anyone else really annoyed that UA-cam sent them here to this? No indication of what it was before clicking. Why does the option to make this sort of thing exist?
Because it only makes sense to have an option to inform your subs you'll be streaming on youtube?.. You lot are annoyed even before opening youtube it seems.
@@LaZieGoblin I don't get annoyed very often. Its pretty rare in fact This time I did, because it was annoying. Still, I'm back because I like T90's stuff, even with the annoying delay ;P and I didn't downvote it either.
@@LaZieGoblin Oh wait, I think I see the problem. When the video first showed up, it didn't say it was upcoming at all. it just had the normal thumbnail and the duration. It in every way looked like any other video until I tried watching it. That's why it was annoying. After that, when it did have the tag saying it would be coming up later, that was totally fine.
Thanks T90 for supplying this content haven't played AOE in years, I personally never played the game online but i did play Empire earth around the time the main servers for that got shutdown and played as a standard mid age rusher, great to see some RTS communities going so well.
I think an interesting strategy would be to manipulate the food/wood market. For instance the person who is making the most food could suddenly stop selling food and start buying wood at the same time. This would then drive up the food prices and force people to make farms which spike the wood price. Then just sell all your food when its at a high price and use the gold to buy up even more wood the next time you cut off food sales, rinse and repeat.
I'm surprised no one picked Portuguese for this map. A single Feitoria over 2 hours would have brought in 5,760 food and wood. If you had 6 instead of the normal villages + trade carts that would have been 34,560 which is probably close to twice as much as the average person was able to buy this game. You'd also have enough stone for 16+ castles and have an easier time breaking off alliances not having to worry about trade.
One thing I've found is kinda OP in maps like this is sappers. Food is relatively cheap compared to wood and you'll likely build quite a few vils early on. Therefore a good strategy is to get sappers and start taking out markets and TCs.
What if someone had dropped their castle in the middle with a bunch of villagers to get it up quick? Throw a wall around it as quick as you can. How much trade could wipe out before people rerouted? Plus you could keep trading diagonal corners and other people couldn't. With 8 players I don't think gating your market would be worth it, but with fewer players it might be. It's one of those things that if everyone did it it would shut down everyone else's economy, but if just 1 out of 8 does it it wouldn't have much effect. Would have been good to send a bunch of monks to convert the dead trade carts.
What if........................when all but 2 players are down, markets spawn at all 4 corners of the map that can be controlled by the players that generate resources. This can help the endgame fights. Or it'll be a meta where the enemy players must make sure not to destroy the markets of the players they're attacking if they dont want to dry up endgame LOL
This remember me way back when I play the AOE2 trial version online, exactly this kin of shit , no resources and if i remember correctly only castle age, but that was so many years back....
1:09:40 Now we know why it's called "trade nothing". In other news, I know nothing about Denny's but I love McDonalds. I come from the same town as McDonalds' CEO.
This is actually pretty amazing. All this trading gives it a lot of realism. People trading, defending trade routes, building castles around them etc. Starting wars is super expensive because it distrupts your trade and alienates people towards you. Theres lots of intruigue conspiracies and drama aah. We dont really have strategy games with actual realistic focus on economy.
Hey T90, been watching your videos for the past week, I'm basically in love. Just wondering, you say this went on for almost 3 hours but your video is only 1:42... do you speed up your videos? does your voice sound different in the twitch stream? lol.
what a wild game. Loved how Grey just RP'd after essentially getting knocked out immediately. Felt like Orange and Yellow should have teamed up and eliminated Purple before turning on each other, but probably a similar end result. I don't see how Yellow loses that in the last 40ish minutes outside of a ridiculously expensive snipe.
I know I'm late to it, and maybe someone pointed it out, but at 25:10, what FeAge says in chat is usually an acronym for an insult in french. If he doesn't know french, it might be a coincidence, but if he speaks it, I'd be surprised that he doesn't know it. Just saying, so you can make sure he doesn't say it too often if he participate again. Wouldn't want to get demonetized because a random player tells an insult in another language ;-)
Can we get salmon nothing? Each player starts with a TC on an island that can support enough space for 200 pop houses, a castle for the king and a dock with some fishing ships. Map is filled with water and salmon.
It would be really funny if it ended up 1v1 with no neutral markets and everyone runs out of resources so they have to agree to trade peacefully until someone starts attacking again.
1:00:00 - "A lot of 'khhkhhh' in German." Eh, no, just in the Black Forest German. Bavarian is very soft, in those same areas. "Ich" is more like "issh", with your tongue at the top of your mouth, instead of restricting the flow of air near the back.
I havnt played AOE in more then a decade but I still watch so many of these videos lol, I wish that it wasnt hard to get back into I would love to learn how to actually play
I wonder if it would be possible to create a "void nothing" map. Farms are disabled, trade is disabled, and there are no resources on the map in FFA. Each player also starts with enough Food, Wood, Gold and Stone to create a small army. When you kill an enemy unit, you gain resources equal to double that unit's resource cost to create. It would purely be on the player's honor not to intentionally trade/feed eachother's economy to then gang up on other people, but then they would still have to deal with each other eventually. In order to progress and win you'd have to be aggressive, and take efficient trades or end up draining what resources you have, and just feeding your opponent. It would likely be a fairly fast map up until the last two or three players where their economy from the war would start booming faster than they could spend it, but I think it might be an interesting mode?
1:01:27 This has all derailed now lol but just wanted to say, that is how you would read "ready" (beredt) in Norwegian (with an accent) haha. So complete miss on the German (bereit) but you almost nailed for another language :p ("berrayt" A native English speaker reading this should have the right pronounciation, with tongue-down hard R's) Edit: You know, the chchch's
@@Nuclear241 Ah. Yeah. Or that. Hey wait I think I commented b/c Norwegian stuff, not to explain the pronounciation of "bereit" but..... I lost.......... focus!
if there is nothing on the map, then what do people trade?
They must all be used car salesmen or door to door salesmen. Selling sand in a desert
Air. You know it is very valuable in this land, as there isn't any plants.
I stand corrected, there are a few cacti.
no textiles means those are super common @@AbokaseeRed
Door to door door salesmen. Going door to door selling doors. Normally this'd be hard because everyone already has doors, but because everyone has to many door to door salesmen, they need more doors.
They trade compliments.
They Trade Dirt
Feitoria Nothing! Everyone starts with 9 Feitorias, regardless of civ!
@@comandokbra207 I know, right? That's what I first though if, as well. Feitorias would be overpowered. Portuguese for the win! even 3 feitorias would give you enough resources to dominate AND boom at the same time.
@@SapioiT Probably is too slow, and 20 pop space is too big price.
It would probablt pay off to have a couple feitoras, the idea of making profit from farms is better but it doesnt give stone and takes more time to build up.
Wouldn't spanish have 20% more economy too?
Looks like the iberians make the mist out of literally nothing lol
They might be banned, possibly. Spanish are banned, I know that much.
Sad thing is this is probably only map of Portuguese being a pick would work
"Why is purple being so hesitant?"
21000 gold worth of trade carts. That's why.
A naval version of this would be pretty interesting.
Fish nothing!
Cog nothing
Prolly everyone would play as the Italians.
Italians are OP in water, they get cheaper trading ships while the whole game would be about getting trading ships and beating others on sea.
@@samuele9735 then play tzar burden of the crown.
There you can trade even between unbuilt markets/shipyards!
Has this happened?
Grey had me in stitches. "let's get all the kings in blue's castle"... seconds later... triple kill. Enjoyable match. Silly ending with everyone starved for resources. The lengths we go to for a win.
timestamp? I skipped around and missed it.
48:00
hahaha that was me!
48:00
>When Butterlord King Harlaus holds a feast and the Nords take the castle with all the lords in it
Classic Swadian butterlords.
M&B fan out there!
It's almost harvesting season
*spoilers*
Purple killed the Four Kings faster than I do in Dark Souls...
He sais "German is not that complicated" when half the sentence was in english :D
"Who needs Rosetta Stone when I can just cast Age of Empires?" I died lol
The feitoria would be valuable in this
Since the moment when wood's price was less than ~4x higher than food's, they should totally build farms :O a single farm transforms 60 wood into 300+ food so instead of buing 100 food for 800 gold and 100 wood for 800 gold, you can have ~300 food for 480 gold (60 wood), profit
What?? I have to wait 6 days? What am I going to do with my life all this time??
Elias Perez play one game of Forrest nothing
nothing.
I was in the hospital
what did u do?
God I love the "____ nothing" games. All of them are interesting and unique in terms of watching it and the strategies players use.
How is eBay a dead website? Lol.... my family owns a pawn shop and i can assure you its just as alive as it always has been. That being said some of the "rules" for selling and listing are absolute horseshit and also eBay will always side with the buyer in a dispute if one arises. Even if everything is _CLEARLY_ explained, photographed and documented via the seller.... doesn't matter. Can't tell you how many items we've gotten back because the buyer claims it was damaged or the wrong item when its quite obvious they just got buyers remorse. Don't be that worthless sack of shit of a person. Side note: The returned items wouldn't be bad except the seller eats the fees every time something is returned :/
Am i the only one who saw this got excited and didn't
have to wait the 6 days ... haha suckers!
note: (1:08:11) market trade
food buy 821 - sell 743
wood buy 888 - sell 804
farm cost 60 wood, and can produce 550 food in imp age fully researched.
if you have a corner walled in this late in game you can farm, sell it off and buy wood.
the offside of this will be cheaper food for enemies
*Capitalism intensifyes*
You'd have to buy the wood
@@NathanMcSwag so long as the wood isn't ten times more expensive than food, its worth it
Portuguese would be really OP on this map and gamemode
I wonder if the cheaper trade carts would still work for them.
I was thinking that, I mean 20 pop space for a building that slowly gens resources? for a map like that, I mean certainly would help late game when trade becomes harder. you'll likely want to play defensively though.
@@TheShallowNight well make sure you have one feitoria and can protect it and then quickly rush to kill tradecarts
well the best counter against their organgun is siege. the most unavaiable troops here. so yeah you're right
but it would also draw a giant target on your back
If you try and convert a trade cart that has gold, it will automatically stop carrying gold and need to be retasked. A lone monk can absolutely wreck a trade route with proper micro
Didn't know that. Smart
Your German "chahrrchagh" is perfect! Lol
Why didn't FeAge convert a vil? He could even have offered gold for it, if he wasn't able to snipe one.
Litterally everyone had heresy
The pros need to do this...i'd love to see their metas that they come up with
feAge? literally 'iron age'? I like it!
Each time I hear him say "Fe-Age" Im a little confused as Im reading the name as "Iron-Age". 😂
Settle down guys!!! 11 he's just testing this out. It's a way for UA-cam people who don't make it to twitch to have the live experience of the stream. Genius!! Thanks t90! You the pointy man!!
Yeah, but t90 should be smart enough to start with a test better then this. But you're right, you should stay constuctive.
"ok in 2 minuten auf grun" actually translates to ""ok, I like cheese sandwiches, what about you?"
Why the fuck u lyin why u always lyin mhh oh my god
roechelrochen made me actually laugh out loud at 15:45 haha
I love the Nothing maps, please keep uploading, while i rarely ever get to catch you live I often watch these long videos while eating. Thanks for the content
47:30 FeAge could make monks and convert villagers and get back in the game though
Thank you for posting such long videos without ads. It helps me sleep through my insomnia
So, in the stone nothing map, i jokingly commented "TRADE. NOTHING."
...
Yeah, so i wasn't serious, but thank you anyways pal... :'D
Anyone else really annoyed that UA-cam sent them here to this? No indication of what it was before clicking. Why does the option to make this sort of thing exist?
Because it only makes sense to have an option to inform your subs you'll be streaming on youtube?.. You lot are annoyed even before opening youtube it seems.
@@LaZieGoblin I don't get annoyed very often. Its pretty rare in fact This time I did, because it was annoying. Still, I'm back because I like T90's stuff, even with the annoying delay ;P and I didn't downvote it either.
@@LaZieGoblin Oh wait, I think I see the problem. When the video first showed up, it didn't say it was upcoming at all. it just had the normal thumbnail and the duration. It in every way looked like any other video until I tried watching it. That's why it was annoying. After that, when it did have the tag saying it would be coming up later, that was totally fine.
Thanks T90 for supplying this content haven't played AOE in years, I personally never played the game online but i did play Empire earth around the time the main servers for that got shutdown and played as a standard mid age rusher, great to see some RTS communities going so well.
Really liked that map, thx for the good content, hope to see more trade nothing!
I think an interesting strategy would be to manipulate the food/wood market. For instance the person who is making the most food could suddenly stop selling food and start buying wood at the same time. This would then drive up the food prices and force people to make farms which spike the wood price. Then just sell all your food when its at a high price and use the gold to buy up even more wood the next time you cut off food sales, rinse and repeat.
Denny's is a national treasure, you watch your mouth. 😂
1:02:26
"Nein! Nein! Uchen guchen gochen MONKS" lmao
t90 clickbait reaches new levels
Was the title different before?
check the pinned comment, the video was uploaded like 6 days ago and we couldn't watch it
@@Tidalx Cry more
@@Tidalx I don't see something wrong in uploading early.
the early upload is not clickbait lol stop trying to attribute the term clickbait to everything
no, come on, 6 days? ffs
It's in the twitch vods
Ive met alot of people from Pennsylvania, I live in Minnesota. They tell me it has the nicest weather, and rarely snows.
I'm surprised no one picked Portuguese for this map. A single Feitoria over 2 hours would have brought in 5,760 food and wood. If you had 6 instead of the normal villages + trade carts that would have been 34,560 which is probably close to twice as much as the average person was able to buy this game. You'd also have enough stone for 16+ castles and have an easier time breaking off alliances not having to worry about trade.
59:00 so the gold stays with the trade cart after conversion? ah, the things community games and nothing maps makes you wonder LOL
@18:27 T90- "To spectate you actually need to own the game"
Immediately after
A Hun- "No"
clicked to watch some aoe2, learned german instead. 10/10
"Crusader are attacking our Trade Rout"
Ray Nightshade even if they dont attack, he would still call for help
HELP! THE CRUSADERS ARE ATTACKING OUR TRADE ROUT
Don't forget! Keep exploring the map.
T90's running out of Nothing map ideas. He needs creative map-makers on his payroll now.
He doesnt make them, he only made forrest nothing
This is madness!
THIS. IS. T90OFFICIAL!
One thing I've found is kinda OP in maps like this is sappers. Food is relatively cheap compared to wood and you'll likely build quite a few vils early on. Therefore a good strategy is to get sappers and start taking out markets and TCs.
Whoever started with that nothing trend...
He is a god.
T90: "Nice and straight, I like it!"
... not sure if homophobic or super gay
Peter Unge Lmfao I was just about to comment this but your version was way better than mine
Peter Unge James Charles
I've actually never gone to Denny's. I've never seen one where I live.
LOL! MVP goes to grey. Moral booster
What if someone had dropped their castle in the middle with a bunch of villagers to get it up quick? Throw a wall around it as quick as you can. How much trade could wipe out before people rerouted? Plus you could keep trading diagonal corners and other people couldn't.
With 8 players I don't think gating your market would be worth it, but with fewer players it might be. It's one of those things that if everyone did it it would shut down everyone else's economy, but if just 1 out of 8 does it it wouldn't have much effect.
Would have been good to send a bunch of monks to convert the dead trade carts.
Kick Ass is really kickass! xD hahaha
56:23 "Blitzkrieg"
@T90Official FeAge isn’t Fee-Age. It’s Fe(iron)Age. His name is just a clever IronAge
Premiere Video: The only time my votes seem to matter!
Look at that Like bar move!
What if........................when all but 2 players are down, markets spawn at all 4 corners of the map that can be controlled by the players that generate resources. This can help the endgame fights.
Or it'll be a meta where the enemy players must make sure not to destroy the markets of the players they're attacking if they dont want to dry up endgame LOL
This remember me way back when I play the AOE2 trial version online, exactly this kin of shit , no resources and if i remember correctly only castle age, but that was so many years back....
1:09:40
Now we know why it's called "trade nothing".
In other news, I know nothing about Denny's but I love McDonalds. I come from the same town as McDonalds' CEO.
This is actually pretty amazing. All this trading gives it a lot of realism. People trading, defending trade routes, building castles around them etc. Starting wars is super expensive because it distrupts your trade and alienates people towards you. Theres lots of intruigue conspiracies and drama aah. We dont really have strategy games with actual realistic focus on economy.
Hey T90, been watching your videos for the past week, I'm basically in love. Just wondering, you say this went on for almost 3 hours but your video is only 1:42... do you speed up your videos? does your voice sound different in the twitch stream? lol.
When I started this I was not expecting a german takeover of the ingame chat
Trade nothing. starts in sand... ends in sand
can you explain why it looks like trade carts are dying right at the beginning?
what a wild game. Loved how Grey just RP'd after essentially getting knocked out immediately. Felt like Orange and Yellow should have teamed up and eliminated Purple before turning on each other, but probably a similar end result. I don't see how Yellow loses that in the last 40ish minutes outside of a ridiculously expensive snipe.
1:13:00 He could set airbolimb to neutral... then the castles won't hurt trade carts
Yellow playing the long game. Dude was down and out the entire freaking game until the very end.
Dude, I hear eBay and dead and I'm like, "Whaaaa?"
"Fat camp" is a nick name in the military for required PT for those to fail the yearly(or bi-yearly i dont remember) Physical fitness/readiness Test.
If buy too much at market,does the cost 100 resource will increase till infinite?
You don't go to Denny's, you end up at Denny's.
The match was pretty much over after Green got teamed up on. The rest was just a stalemate slog.
Im addicted to youre content
I know I'm late to it, and maybe someone pointed it out, but at 25:10, what FeAge says in chat is usually an acronym for an insult in french. If he doesn't know french, it might be a coincidence, but if he speaks it, I'd be surprised that he doesn't know it. Just saying, so you can make sure he doesn't say it too often if he participate again. Wouldn't want to get demonetized because a random player tells an insult in another language ;-)
Can we get salmon nothing? Each player starts with a TC on an island that can support enough space for 200 pop houses, a castle for the king and a dock with some fishing ships. Map is filled with water and salmon.
It would be really funny if it ended up 1v1 with no neutral markets and everyone runs out of resources so they have to agree to trade peacefully until someone starts attacking again.
der Rachen des wachen Drachen macht krachende Sachen
Ayyyyyyy....best hour ( i guess) of my life just began
Would love to see Blue Coffee in trade nothing. 😂😂
Time to sit down and wait 6 days
This was really bad for missing almost every important fight in the match.
1:00:00 - "A lot of 'khhkhhh' in German." Eh, no, just in the Black Forest German.
Bavarian is very soft, in those same areas. "Ich" is more like "issh", with your tongue at the top of your mouth, instead of restricting the flow of air near the back.
two vils for a vil and a pair of towers makes for one hell of an early raid. good work grey.
"Tu mir den Gefallen" means "Do me this favour. :)
I havnt played AOE in more then a decade but I still watch so many of these videos lol, I wish that it wasnt hard to get back into I would love to learn how to actually play
4 keeps gone like that, damn
Why did some players kill trade carts in the beginning of the game?
To free up pop space for villagers.
What do people use instead of Ebay?
So, if you totally wall in a castle like yellow did with houses, what happens to the garrisoned King when he gets kicked out because of castle damage?
I wonder if it would be possible to create a "void nothing" map.
Farms are disabled, trade is disabled, and there are no resources on the map in FFA. Each player also starts with enough Food, Wood, Gold and Stone to create a small army. When you kill an enemy unit, you gain resources equal to double that unit's resource cost to create. It would purely be on the player's honor not to intentionally trade/feed eachother's economy to then gang up on other people, but then they would still have to deal with each other eventually. In order to progress and win you'd have to be aggressive, and take efficient trades or end up draining what resources you have, and just feeding your opponent. It would likely be a fairly fast map up until the last two or three players where their economy from the war would start booming faster than they could spend it, but I think it might be an interesting mode?
I like that name "FeAge". Very clever
Purple was a big backstabber, he lost though.
He even tried to petard kill yellows Town center, thinking there is king. :D
I go to Denny's on Christmas, because they are actually opened.
What about king nothing ? Everyone starts with plenty of armies, kings fill the map. The catch is only one of them is the true king.
THE LEGEND OF VWIEKICKASS
How about a PA meetup? Would be fun to have an old school lan party in PA.
I don't know man: it would probably be very dependent upon where, for there are many shady areas.
I wonder if this map is TRADEmarked
;)
What happens if you trade to a market that is next to each other ?
1:01:27 This has all derailed now lol but just wanted to say,
that is how you would read "ready" (beredt) in Norwegian (with an accent) haha.
So complete miss on the German (bereit) but you almost nailed for another language :p
("berrayt" A native English speaker reading this should have the right pronounciation, with tongue-down hard R's)
Edit: You know, the chchch's
You know, the Teutonic villager sounds
@@Nuclear241 Ah. Yeah. Or that.
Hey wait I think I commented b/c Norwegian stuff, not to explain the pronounciation of "bereit" but.....
I lost.......... focus!
This channel has Nothing good on it to watch.
;)
D4t5 gr8 j0k3 m8 *dabs * *does default dance *
Literally
*This channel has good nothing to watch ;)
Playing this as a civ without redemption is... tough.