@@stevensko9153didn’t they try a tail like that on a modified Blackhawk iirc? Seems like I remember them putting a ducted tail rotor on a Blackhawk but I can’t remember if it was just to test a pusher prop or that it was movable, seems like I remember them referring to it as “thrust vectoring”!! I may be wrong about that and it may be only to test a pusher prop design but I do know for a fact they modified one with a ducted pusher prop in the back and iirc it was movable to test turning and maneuverability and stuff like that!!
That's exactly the same thing I have been thinking about! I dreamed about five years ago for an aircraft better than V-22 and that one is exactly my answer! I know that fantasy is not design. I just want to say it's really amazing to see somebody making your fantasy true!
No torque counter for hover, it’s a cross between the raider and the invictus. People are saying that the competition was rigged, but the best designs went forward. I really like the Bell design, but I believe that Sikorsky takes this round.
4:00 now that’s cool af!! Almost as cool as the NOTAR design from McDonnell Douglas Helicopter Systems or MD Helicopter Systems, of coarse it was designed by Hughes Helicopters first and MD came about it with their acquisition of Hughes and they continued development of it and brought it to market but that’s got to best and most simplistic designs I’ve ever seen!! This is smart as well but adds extra parts to break and extra initial cost and no doubt maintenance whereas MD’s NOTAR design is so simple and doesn’t add a lot and if anything removes a lot.
2:15 damn man I’m sure he was going to get to that if u hadn’t interrupted!! Seems like he mentioned their experiences with tilt rotors to show they had some experience that they could also apply to this design as well!
I can see this design working in flight but how do they plan to hover mid flight ? the pusher prop would swirl vertically to give additional lift but can that positioning work as anti torque for the main rotor ?
Karem Aircraft has received 738 million dollars of the government funding. What are they actually going to offer for the money? Just CGIs and tiny models? When are they actually going to build anything if prototype phase is in Feb 2020 and only 2 contenders will go forward with actual prototype manufacturing? And it is very unlikely that they will choose this childlike perspective of FARA program. What tangible engineering will be offered for 738 million dollars?
Why do you not ask SIkorsky, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, etc the same thing? Unlike them, this design will have equal lifting capacity in hover but superior range due to superior aerodynamics. The only problem I have with 100% of EVERY turboprop is that they are horrifically noisy and these are supposed to be recon birds... Encase the prop in a shroud or go home. So, S97, Karem, and others get a giant thumbs down due to noise.
I agree. The raider family is incredible, reminds me of the modularity of the UH-1 / AH-1 common's propultion, transmission etc. . . However, the Bell Invictus is a strong contender. The others have no chance.
@@zackthebongripper7274 the Invictus looks like a damn sexy design but it just doesn't bring enough to the table. It just looks like a good solid heli, which won't be enough. The raider changes the game with its incredible speed and agility. If the raider does face adversity it'll be its costs and noise level.
emosh73 having a side-by-side set up like the Karem, Raider, and AVX designs make it easy for the airframe to be constructed. If they are going to have cabin seats then the front cockpit needs to be the same width as the rear cabin for easy manufacturing. Only the bell 360 design has the tandem pilot set up. But it can’t carry any troops. This particular Karem design is interesting because it has a rigid rotor like the Raider, but only a single main rotor which keeps the profile and height low and possibly maintenance is easier
The Sikorsky birds have the most innovative and capability enhancing design IMHO. The tilt rotor helo's are great but I don't think they can deliver the increase in performance and agility that Sikorsky's design will, plus its more cumbersome design doesn't allow it to access some of the LZ's or locations typical birds land at! If the Army truly wants a new bird with drastic increases in performance, agility, and the ability to confidentiality take on and complete new complex ever changing missions the choice is clear, nevermind all the PR and listen to what real helicopter pilots say about it!! It's a legit "Game Changer", bottom line.
So what? Do you really think war play by rules? If china can copy , meaning NSA is incompetent, one does not simply copy by look at it, they need blueprints
@@boiboiboi1419 So you grab your USB stick ... walk onto a US aircraft carrier. Get those blueprints and then for good measure get into those nuclear reactor rooms and get all that data as well. Anyone could do it really.
@@DyslexicPalindrome That's funny considering I actually work on one of the programs still competing 😂 You might want to stick to commentating on UA-cam rather than trying to lecture anyone here
@@reyalexandro Sure and u also won publishers clearinghouse, ur the king of Tonga, an action star, and an admiral in the newly formed Space Force. None of the competing programs (single-engine) could compete in lifting characteristics during hover takeoff/landing, or speed over ground in flight. But u would know this if u actually worked on one of those competing programs. The key being ... single-engine. And it fits in a 40' box for transport. So yeah ... it is funny ... reading ur tripe. Go back to cereal and comic books bub. Or at a minimum peddle ur garbage somewhere else. Not impressed with u admiral.
Just like the Raider looks exactly like every push rotor configuration before it ... Unless you go buy a dual prop push rotor from France? This is no Raider flying into a hot combat zone. Not with the wingspan this thing has. This thing is also not dual coaxial like the Raider. The Raider is just one of many, many push rotor contestants. And they all look very alike to the untrained eye.
This is by far the most interesting design in the competition, but the down-select was rigged for Bell and Sikorsky before they even started.
correct. which means our troops will not be getting the best product available.
@@stevensko9153didn’t they try a tail like that on a modified Blackhawk iirc? Seems like I remember them putting a ducted tail rotor on a Blackhawk but I can’t remember if it was just to test a pusher prop or that it was movable, seems like I remember them referring to it as “thrust vectoring”!! I may be wrong about that and it may be only to test a pusher prop design but I do know for a fact they modified one with a ducted pusher prop in the back and iirc it was movable to test turning and maneuverability and stuff like that!!
Clever design . The Army always wanted an airplane but the AF keeps shutting them down .
Would love to see a fully weoponized model. Very innovative desighn.
Would love to see it double up as a nuclear weapon submarine drone, or a missile.
That's exactly the same thing I have been thinking about!
I dreamed about five years ago for an aircraft better than V-22 and that one is exactly my answer!
I know that fantasy is not design. I just want to say it's really amazing to see somebody making your fantasy true!
Raytheon will pull out all stops to get the deal done don't you worry Karem..
No torque counter for hover, it’s a cross between the raider and the invictus. People are saying that the competition was rigged, but the best designs went forward. I really like the Bell design, but I believe that Sikorsky takes this round.
4:00 now that’s cool af!! Almost as cool as the NOTAR design from McDonnell Douglas Helicopter Systems or MD Helicopter Systems, of coarse it was designed by Hughes Helicopters first and MD came about it with their acquisition of Hughes and they continued development of it and brought it to market but that’s got to best and most simplistic designs I’ve ever seen!! This is smart as well but adds extra parts to break and extra initial cost and no doubt maintenance whereas MD’s NOTAR design is so simple and doesn’t add a lot and if anything removes a lot.
For a max. of 200 knots is truly amazing!
Kareem born in Baghdad Iraq not so many knows that.
2:15 damn man I’m sure he was going to get to that if u hadn’t interrupted!! Seems like he mentioned their experiences with tilt rotors to show they had some experience that they could also apply to this design as well!
they put helicopter rotor on submarine body lol
lol
Yes makes Indian helo's look very very slow. Push rotors can go twice the speed or regular lift rotor configurations.
they might also have flying torpedoes
Col. Sanders grills the guy.
I can see this design working in flight but how do they plan to hover mid flight ? the pusher prop would swirl vertically to give additional lift but can that positioning work as anti torque for the main rotor ?
pretty sure he said it will swing sideways... if it would be swing up it would work like chinook than
Karem Aircraft has received 738 million dollars of the government funding. What are they actually going to offer for the money? Just CGIs and tiny models? When are they actually going to build anything if prototype phase is in Feb 2020 and only 2 contenders will go forward with actual prototype manufacturing? And it is very unlikely that they will choose this childlike perspective of FARA program. What tangible engineering will be offered for 738 million dollars?
Quick answer is more than was offered for the F-22 or Joint Strike Fighter’s at the same stage, Ha! 😂 I hear you though for real.
Why do you not ask SIkorsky, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, etc the same thing? Unlike them, this design will have equal lifting capacity in hover but superior range due to superior aerodynamics.
The only problem I have with 100% of EVERY turboprop is that they are horrifically noisy and these are supposed to be recon birds... Encase the prop in a shroud or go home. So, S97, Karem, and others get a giant thumbs down due to noise.
@@w8stral Pretty sure they will implement 'whisper mode'.
@@herc1305 Hiding a magic wand are ya?
@@w8stral There's Blue Edge tech and also their pusher props are fan like optimized for low Db's
5:10 I dont know how they expect anyone to fit in that , its tiny .
It's KFC delivery unit.
that's a good looking RC helicopter.
My money is on the S97
I agree. The raider family is incredible, reminds me of the modularity of the UH-1 / AH-1 common's propultion, transmission etc. . . However, the Bell Invictus is a strong contender. The others have no chance.
@@zackthebongripper7274 the Invictus looks like a damn sexy design but it just doesn't bring enough to the table. It just looks like a good solid heli, which won't be enough. The raider changes the game with its incredible speed and agility. If the raider does face adversity it'll be its costs and noise level.
@emosh73 double rotor and pusher prop isn't new or risky tech
the Russians pioneered this long ago
emosh73 having a side-by-side set up like the Karem, Raider, and AVX designs make it easy for the airframe to be constructed. If they are going to have cabin seats then the front cockpit needs to be the same width as the rear cabin for easy manufacturing. Only the bell 360 design has the tandem pilot set up. But it can’t carry any troops. This particular Karem design is interesting because it has a rigid rotor like the Raider, but only a single main rotor which keeps the profile and height low and possibly maintenance is easier
The Sikorsky birds have the most innovative and capability enhancing design IMHO. The tilt rotor helo's are great but I don't think they can deliver the increase in performance and agility that Sikorsky's design will, plus its more cumbersome design doesn't allow it to access some of the LZ's or locations typical birds land at! If the Army truly wants a new bird with drastic increases in performance, agility, and the ability to confidentiality take on and complete new complex ever changing missions the choice is clear, nevermind all the PR and listen to what real helicopter pilots say about it!! It's a legit "Game Changer", bottom line.
You're so close. Just make the Whispercraft from 6th day already. 😐
Abraham Karem was born in Baghdad! what irony is that the drone father use his genius to bomb target his own native town!
Could you not also direct downward thrust for maneuverability in helicopter mode?
Seems like we could go ahead and bypass the helicopter factor.
Hmmm, I see, but how does one fit in it?
exactly !
Nobody fits there. That's a scale model
@@rajughose8007 Then how do they know that it can fly?
@@rajughose8007 ..... no shit ? /wooooosh
It's a promising design. Abe karem's genius backed by the industrial might of Northrop and Raytheon. I just hope Lockheed doesn’t win it.....
Is this the RFP equivalent of fantasy football?
the rear propeller part would have put a high speed thrust turbine that reached 600 km, h and with the 2 main rotor blades a speed of 350 km.h
I think the French used a plane with a tilting wing in WWI
Boeing Superfrog?
Good for FARA replace apache, black hawk Uh 60 & kiowa Oh58 helicopter...!
Did he just say, "Less Draggy" !? Lol, someone correct me if I'm wrong but that's not a real word or terminology, Right????
6:40 is when he says it, hi-tech industry lingo!
Why is it so hard to give a thumbs up anymore?
This is a 50 year old idea tho
Nice. How fast? It's got to go fast enough to beat the Rusty Russians.
what you need is a swam of drones the size of this modal
The Chinese will copy this.
They copy only good projects, that´is not the case
So what? Do you really think war play by rules?
If china can copy , meaning NSA is incompetent, one does not simply copy by look at it, they need blueprints
@@boiboiboi1419 So you grab your USB stick ... walk onto a US aircraft carrier. Get those blueprints and then for good measure get into those nuclear reactor rooms and get all that data as well.
Anyone could do it really.
@@MrFlatage lol.. first they need to know about a server in the bathroom.. That takes some serious donation $..
@@j.thomas3207 No idea what that is all about.
No such data showed on my USB stick sorry.
The avx aircraft really sucks.
Bring back either the Rotordyne or the AH-56.
Game changer.
Not really
Rey Yeah ... “really.” U simply don’t comprehend the technological leap. U might want to stick to critiques about paper airplanes.
@@DyslexicPalindrome That's funny considering I actually work on one of the programs still competing 😂 You might want to stick to commentating on UA-cam rather than trying to lecture anyone here
@@reyalexandro Sure and u also won publishers clearinghouse, ur the king of Tonga, an action star, and an admiral in the newly formed Space Force.
None of the competing programs (single-engine) could compete in lifting characteristics during hover takeoff/landing, or speed over ground in flight. But u would know this if u actually worked on one of those competing programs. The key being ... single-engine. And it fits in a 40' box for transport.
So yeah ... it is funny ... reading ur tripe. Go back to cereal and comic books bub. Or at a minimum peddle ur garbage somewhere else. Not impressed with u admiral.
No way.
Rotodine
This looks exactly like the S-97 raider
Just like the Raider looks exactly like every push rotor configuration before it ... Unless you go buy a dual prop push rotor from France?
This is no Raider flying into a hot combat zone. Not with the wingspan this thing has. This thing is also not dual coaxial like the Raider. The Raider is just one of many, many push rotor contestants. And they all look very alike to the untrained eye.