Especially since they are all in letters. If they say anything that isn’t representative of their chapter, they’re out. This video missed the mark sadly.
@@Unknown-us1fc I live in Poland and I think that the biggest diffrence between Poland and USA when it comes to being student at Univeriaty would be that still many people live with their parents. Especially if you live in bigger city and you attend at Univeristy in the same city, people stay with their parents.For exmple i live in Warsaw and if someone has moved from their hometown to warsaw then they can rent an apartament or rent ,,akademik,, which is building just for students.
I would like to see a similar video about fraternities but with ex members this time. And talk about elitism, hazing, pledging, party culture, secrecy, parental pressure and expectations to join a fraternity, money, alcohol and drug abuse, sexism, both physical and sexuaI harassment by other members. I was in a fraternity and sometimes really sucked. We need to touch more serious issues and have deeper conversations.
Also nepotism. I'm guessing that hazing is a thing in frats/sororities because a lot of them have connections to some of the most powerful but corrupt people in the country, and if you are willing to keep the most despicable hazing crimes a secret, you can pretty much keep any atrocities in the government a secret too, and maybe even participate in them. Honestly, if I am a corrupt leader, I would trust someone from the same fraternity way more over stuff like political party or religion.
I would love an anonymous version of this. Mostly because it’s concerning to me that pledging system and hazing is still a secret that sororities and fraternities keep despite instances in the past that cross the line.
It depends on the sorority of course (and because it’s secret) but in my experience, recruitment wasn’t to judge the girls on arbitrary/superficial things, it was to make sure they had things in common with the other sisters and to see how easily they could make friends and get along with everyone.
Would be more interesting to see this done with ex-sorority girls OR even a middle ground with “Greek Life Members v. Ex-Greek Life Members”! It might have been hard for some of these girls to be transparent about their experiences since they’re all still bound to their respective organizations.
I really wanted to hear Kennedy’s take on “some sororities only take pretty people”. since she’s an AKA, they kinda pride & distinguish themselves by being the “pretty girls” of the Divine 9 sororities. being pretty has become a large part of their group identity, they even have chants affirming it.
Yes, we pride ourselves on being the "pretty girls" but that is not solely based on looks. Being a "pretty girl" is about your attitude and the way you present yourself and treat others. Everyone is beautiful but not everyone has a beautiful heart. No one is a part of this sorority because someone thought "oh, they're pretty" but because they resemble the internal qualities of the sorority.
@@semiyaamor7680 thanks so much for your response! I honestly admire the diligence of AKAs, y’all really are queens. but just like the other girls were saying they knew of sorority members who care about looks I’d suspect there’s AKA’s who probably believe girls have to be physically pretty enough to join. her response could’ve opened a larger dialogue
Yes, my same feelings exactly! Love my sister greeks I also can't ignore that historically they are the only D9org that has/ had colorism associated with membership recruitment. Hearing that someone hasn't felt pretty enough or thin enough to be apart of a paid social club is heartbreaking.
They used to do a thing called brown paper bag test where a woman couldn’t be darker than that to join the sorority. I never wanted to be AKA because of that history. However i still respect their foundation and being the first officially recognized black sorority and help pave the way for many black sorority women.
It relates to being prissy, classy, and ladylike when they say "pretty girls" rather than physical appearances. Pretty in your actions and the way you carry yourself, like how people say "beautiful soul". But in every sorority, there will be bias based on appearances but that's not what AKA's motto refers to.
@@becca-tg5pn It is though? Unless you can elaborate? I’ve seen many documentaries, and have did personal research on this topic, I personally wouldn’t join any organizations like these, or any in general.
Imo college is 50% the education and 50% the networking. Technically don't need to party to network, but the job fairs, clubs, group projects, etc. are great for your career. I have definitely reached out to college friends before to get interviews or just to learn more about the company they're at when I was thinking of switching jobs. It's easier to make friends and connect with people in college compared to when you've started working. Mostly it takes a lot more effort and financial investment to make and maintain friends after school because schedules don't always match and people usually disperse into different places and start living their own lives.
i think it depends on the school you go to, at mine obviously networking matters but if people constantly see you out at the big parties they will become more familiar with you and they will see you more, especially at a very big school
In a sorority lol. Unfortunately most sororities don’t really care about your education as long as you aren’t failing classes. They want you to be socially popular
My mom was a delta and she wanted me to join. I had no interest in paying to be apart of a sorority, but what I will say is that they stick together. If you’re a part of the same sorority people will look out for your whether it be in social settings or career opportunities.
As someone who doesn’t live in America I always found sororities a bit creepy and cultish like a house full of white blondes who do fun things together but watching this actually made me see them with a bigger perspective
@@rrachhelll yes three people hand picked out of millions of sorority members. The people in this video don’t represent accurate demographics of most sorority members.
You all did not dive deep enough into the issues with these questions. Ask about hazing, more about the recruitment rush process, entitlement, legacies, etc.
they attempted to cover the hazing question with the "i've been made to do things that i was uncomfortable doing" part but i think the girls were being willfully ignorant about it... "i was uncomfortable being social" or "i was uncomfortable having to enforce dues as the vice president" were such cop out answers
@@asyuruu Most definitely. But I'm pretty sure they could get themselves or their whole chapter into major trouble if they had spoken openly about any hazing. It would've been interesting to hear from some graduates or ex-sorority members, though.
@@asyuruu I think it's because there are many sororities that have done away with hazing. Definitely not in the deep south, but my chapter in CA does not haze.
I think it's funny how that one girl said not going to parties makes you irrelevant and a ghost. Like the point of college is to get an education and be successful in a career, not have a bunch of people knowing your name.
She was saying for in a sorority. And she is the vice president who deals with new people directly all the time in her chapter so she most likely understands how social connections in sororities work better than you
Sororities are a lot of times how rich people network, so the parties and socializing helps you get access to important people. I personally never saw them as appealing and thankfully neither of my schools had strong Greek life. My university had no Greek life but the sports teams all had their own townhouses and basically had raging parties. My graduate school had a few frats and sororities but they weren't a big part of the overall campus culture, just sort of their own entities. Just always seemed expensive and like you HAD to follow certain rules and I personally just wanted to enjoy school and not have expectations of my free time and who I spent time with.
I disagree. I'm not from America. But the friends you make in university, became your connections in the real world. It's not always about who's the smartest, but the people who know other people.
did anyone else pick up on how the girls weren't being 100% truthful with their answers? no way that girl thinks that we'll believe that she's paying $1000 per semester for philanthropy when there are plenty of free philanthropy organizations out there 🙄
Yeah I raised my eyebrow when she said that. You can do philanthropy on your own for free. Why pay to do it? Honestly I feel like people join these organizations just to belong somewhere
@@tnago916 You mean more cringe than what we have just witnessed in the video like some girls saying that they only accept pretty girls or the requirement to join a sorority is they also have to party, like that's whole another level of cringe. Also you realize these girls are clearly filtering their opinions and not really being honest.
@@everythingisawesome2903 That's your opinion, like i have mine. What about it was cringe tho? These girls were actually really cool. I don't know if you're just mad I said that episode would be PEAK CRINGE but alright 💀.
@@tnago916 That person literally answered your question in the very comment you replied to asking what was cringe in the video. You're the one who seems to be worked up about someone considering sororities cringe (which a lot of people think btw because they ARE!)
Most student organizations have some sort of "dues," not just Greek organizations. Dues go toward running the chapter, paying for the events they put on, etc. A difference with Greeks is that a lot of times dues are a bit higher, and that's because they put on more social events that just cost more money to host. Things like food, drinks, decor, event spaces, etc - these things don't just materialize out of thin air :) The student organization has to pay for them with the dues they collect.
Dues can be very expensive, depending on the school. That’s part of the way I decided not to rush in college because it can really add up. I went to a college catholic school and mine even demanded for the sorority girls to live in sorority housing, hence that was also an additional fancy housing expense you had to do on top of semester dues. Feels like a trap at the end of the day and most sororities on my campus were stuck up
They should definitely talk to girls who are apart of sororities from down south, especially Bama (University of Alabama) sororities. Since they have one of the biggest rushes during the fall season,it makes me wonder what truly goes on during these times,but also they also aren't afraid to speak up about them.
@@RoseAllDayyy Oh it's VERY serious. Some southern sororities are base off how much money your dad makes, certain cities you're from, some sororities also help you determine who you'll marry or what you're marrying into. It can get very intense. It's obvious the girls in the video are from the west because their sororities don't put as much pressure about social status and looks as southern sororities do.
I was a member of a sorority in the SEC. Recruitment was a generally terrible experience, and the sororities did feel a bit like a social caste system. I was on financial aid at a very wealthy school, and I saved up all of my money from working a retail job over the summer and breaks to pay my own dues. I made some friends in my sorority, and it gave me something to do, but I don't know that it was worth the time and money at the end of the day. I wonder now what I could have done if I had been able to save that money and use that time to explore additional educational opportunities. It also might surprise a lot of people to learn that hazing really isn't a thing in a lot of sororities, especially national sororities. I was literally never hazed. Fraternities are a very different story, however.
i’m glad they brought up the “diversity chair” for the blonde girl’s sorority. it shouldn’t always be the burden of the black woman (or person of color) to educate traumatic things that anyone can teach themselves.
I agree, but I also think having POC in positions like that has a lot of value. Sometimes there are blind spots people have simply because they aren't part of a certain background. We need to hear from people with different lived experiences than us. Maybe they could expand the diversity chair to a panel to relieve the pressure off one woman and distribute it more to several people from various backgrounds who are passionate and educated on the subject.
@@whateverwhatever4026 A lot of members don’t live in the house. And sororities foster valuable connections post-college, plus provide an easily accessible social life to accompany the academic side of college, so not exactly meaningless.
When they say they didn’t do anything they weren’t comfortable doing, i almost don’t believe them, and I also think their perception of what’s a reasonable request might be very different from a normal persons because they have gone through it and it’s part of the culture.
I was in sorority and had never felt uncomfortable in my sorority even when I surrounded by racist people when doing community service with my sorority. The racist people were the local residents or homeless not my sorority. I have friends from other sororities that never felt uncomfortable in their sorority at all. Maybe my sister’s Asian sorority once but it was just because the community service chair signed people up to clean around the school campus.
That's cause a lot of sororities don't haze; they are more time-consuming than anything because of meetings. We used to have chapters on Sundays, which pissed everyone off cause we wanted to be home studying.
A lot don’t actually haze. Mine never did, at least on a wide scale. When we heard about someone trying to haze we immediately dropped them. Sororities have a lot higher standards that we are held to. Probably because we gossip and would be able to keep our mouths shut to be honest 😅
ok i hope i wasn’t the only one who peeped at 14:49 grace hesitating with the “racism exists within sororities” prompt until she saw everyone move to strongly agree…baby i saw you turn to disagree lol
Come on, this sounds super nitpicky. Definitely seems like she moved too early before the counter was done. When she finally did, she still went in the same direction she was going to before she apologized. Some people would say anything to make someone (they don’t even know or understand) look bad.
Yeah and when she said “we have a person of color who is well educated that teaches us”. I cringed a little 😬. I don’t think it was coming from a bad place though, not at all, I just feel like she isn’t quite aware of her privilege
These women are all kind, intelligent, and caring it’s pretty impressive. I hate to be that person but if you get a bunch of frat bros to do this it won’t be anywhere near as informative and positive
Why is it impressive that women are kind, intelligent, and caring? Are you saying that most women are not those things because that’s what I’m feeling from the comment… and it’s a tad offensive.
@@saltmymanif they have a sorority house then yeah. But it’s also to cover food or decor for events and mine went on a trip every semester so it included that and also any sorority related clothing. And every sorority has a philanthropy (like a charity) so everyone is required to contribute and donate
Whoa whoa whoa The topic of posting alcohol. The girl in the very back brought up a great point, and one that made me think about how hypocritical sororities are. It’s not that the girls aren’t drinking like the frat guys necessarily, they just can’t post it. That always rubbed me the wrong way.
@@karmicobsession1636in all fairness, if I was in a sorority, I wouldn't want the possibility of a bunch of drunk, college-aged men roaming around my house.
@@kausha7135 so you'd rather have your only option be to go into a male-dominated, alcohol-dominated space that has little to no rules or direction? The houses are huge, people can stay in their rooms. Women would make their parties a safe place where they can still have fun.
@@kyliep5376 imagine if I didn't want to go to a party at all and joined a sorority for the purpose of networking and having a support group throughout college...you know...the thing they're actually advertised for.
if you’re not in a sorority or haven’t been in one, it’s easy to have preconceived ideas about it and frown on it. but there are a lot of positives and fun memories, it made my college years so memorable and i did meet life long friends. also people who are not greek still like to “party”, that’s a college thing not just a greek thing, and i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that if that’s what someone wants to do :)
you can definitely see the difference between "popular girl sorority sisters" and others in this video. like some of these girls are clearly more high status, with not paying dues and how they view partying and rush. It's hard because some days I feel like sororities are such a fun cool experience I wished I joined, but other times I realize how humiliating or unfair The Who greek system is. with financial status, pretty privilege and how sisters are treated by each other and the guys from frats.
i see joining a sorority/fraternity is very similar to being in a sport in college. i can only speak on cheer but i have dues to pay, mandatory team bonding, and bonding out side of practice like partying/going to bars. it’s very similar when you think about it, bc there’s also hazing involved.
Was this in the states? You're definitely expected to basically eat, sleep, and study with your team. That's how all my friends who were on sports teams lived and traveled.
@@HouseMDaddict yeah i’m talking about in the states, but it’s also the same. i think it’s just depends on the sport on how strict they are about those things.
Here’s the thing if the white woman with blonde hair got up and started teaching about how to treat black people or minorities people would scrutinize her and say why doesn’t she have someone with experience teaching them on the subject. I’m black and it feels like when you are white and especially blonde there’s no way for them to win. People keep trying to tell them they aren’t doing enough. And keep in mind she’s the only sorority pledge that actually talked about inclusion. The rest of them preached exclusion smh.
Facts lmao. Some black people actively work to make it difficult for white people to be allies. There is no perfect way to be anti racist, fully educated, an educator on diversity issues and taken seriously as a blonde, thin white woman. It will almost always come off as disingenuous bc people have their own insecurities and projections within. Also, black people in black sororities telling non black people to justify their interest in joining at the same time have a problem with predominantly white sororities trying to include diverse people in their ranks. Damned if you do; damned if you don’t. If I was white in 2023, I’d really stop giving a damn.
The women of color did not preach exclusion, on the contrary, they just said that there has to be a genuine and meaningful reason as to why a white individual would want to join an all black sorority. Black sororities were originally in place due to the exclusion and racism black women faced when trying to join white sororities (and that's if they were even allowed to apply to the college).
I honestly agree. As a woman of color in a sorority I definitely notice a difference between having a POC Vs. Non-poc in that position and I personally prefer having a POC because they know what it’s like to live as a POC. I also agree that it shouldn’t be the burden of POC to educate white people but I just feel like generally the perspective gives you a different insight into the experience of a person of color and I also just feel more represented as a WOC myself when it is a POC in that position but 🤷🏽♀️
I’m so grateful for the D9 and Latina Based representation. As a member of Latina Based, multi cultural org, we’re so over looked so I’m grateful for the representation ❤️ love from Lambda Pi Chi 🦋
As a Frenchman, most of Jubilee's recent videos feel incredibly weird. It's like the US is in its own little bubble. As for this video in particular, it seems these girls see college as everything but a place of education.
That’s why the US is filled with incompetence, because of these corrupt institutions or organizations. You have barely educated individuals gaining access into high-paying positions with little to no morals. But then again, it’s also just stupidity on management as a whole to hire individuals with no sense of morality and common sense.
@@dailysamira I get your point. Channels from other countries may also feel odd to foreigners. However, I doubt the mentality and culture gap would be as large and disturbing as the one pictured via such a channel as Jubilee.
and also, do you talk to ur friends about education 24/7? Sororities aren’t like a club for connections for academic goals like Pre Nursing club. It’s just a friend group
i rushed at a big 12 school and transferred to a smaller college closer to my house, and the difference of how the sororities are is just massive. a lot of the “bad” sororities, the looks based, party only, and etc mostly just are at the big name state schools in the south. the sororities at my smaller state school are extremely laid back and accept members of all races and body types, which i love. not to say we don’t have one or two more so “traditional” sororities, it’s just much less frequent. it all really depends on the individual schools!
Late to the party, but I think this style of video with girls who go to southern universities would be so interesting. Such as SEC schools like Alabama, LSU, Auburn, A&M, etc. I attended UH and was in Greek life but the culture and experience there were much much different compared to my friends who went to big Greek life schools. I've heard horror stories about SEC schools, both in sororities and fraternities, and the pressure and financial aspects are truly on another level. I don't regret my time in my sorority, but the system as a whole needs a major reboot, and it's definitely not something everyone would enjoy. LICO.
I’m from the UK and at my university I was part of a cheerleading team. At my university the sport teams were very similar to Greek life in America. I can agree that finances are biggest issue. So many friends who were at sports team we were told about basic costs but not everything else. It cost so much money and it was a source of stress. I will say it was worth it though because of the social connections you make.
Have you even been in a sorority because I guess not. Not once did I feel like I was in a cult. We had sisters that were in cult like societies growing up due to parents forcing them.
@@mewesquirrel6720 Not at all especially the Mormons. We only had a few people get drunk on rare occasions. We have had members that never had alcohol before.
In theory, I would love to join an organization that is designed to unite and uplift women. But with so many underlying issues around racism, beauty standards, money, social pressures, homophobia, etc-sororities really only have negative connotations in my mind, which is sad and I honestly think has a lot of roots in the patriarchy.
When I saw the girls I knew IMMEDIATELY who the AKA was and who the Delta was. Colorist has been a problem within our own black community for centuries. Light-skinned over here, dark-skinned over there.
I moved to America in college and was instantly confused by Greek life. I don’t know why it’s a thing and anyone who tried to explain it to me couldn’t actually explain it. In the end, I likened it to Hogwarts houses except you replace magic with just normal social status. I guess I’m just non-American but that seems very counterproductive to holistic human progress
Why are so many foreigners so butt hurt abt sororities? If you don’t know what it is then look it up. They’re not meaningless and actually provide a lot of opportunities after college. *This is copypasted from another comment, ppl like you need to see it
I wish everyone wore their sororities just to see everyone’s perspective, one thing I do like to see is the diverse group of girls because for me personally I only know about D9
I wish they would have asked Racism AND Colorism exists in sororities. Because within some frats and sororities colorism exists, many foundations of some black frats and sororities have beginnings of building their chapters based in colorism or techniques used to "filter" out what they would like their chapter to look like such as the brown paper bag test. For example, AKAs are known within the black community as the "pretty girls," and their beginnings consisted of lighter, fair skinned, or biracial black women. And Deltas' beginnings consisted of the dark skin girls. It's just something I think we sometimes overlook because these social communities shape our way of thinking and how we view the world. And colorism is still a huge issue within the black community.
on the alcohol point - sorrorities are huge organizations with an insane amount of power and influence. they do have the influence to actively work to dismantle mysognism in our society. by upholding this double standard, they are failing the women who are in these groups.
0:23 I pay to have friends - disagree. 1:59 I love to party - strongly disagree!! being around alcohol and drunk people makes me uncomfortable 3:22 some sororities only take pretty people - slightly agree 6:59 I've been made to do things I'm uncomfortable with while in a sorority - strongly disagree 10:40 I don't worry about money - disagree. More about the future than the present though 14:48 racism exists within sororities - strongly agree 21:06 I regret joining a sorority - strongly disagree
I’m in a sorority and them talking about how expensive the social aspect is and WOW YES it causes a barrier having to work and not be able to go out like the other girls
I don't party and I know a ton of people on my campus. Its because I'm a social person in school, am an active member of multiple clubs, and like to put myself out there. College can be very different than how they portrayed it. It often seems like social sorority girls put themselves in a bubble and forget that this is a whole different world of being a college student that they are missing.
i don’t get why they pretend like they aren’t paying for networking and then act like they don’t want to be there. If you don’t want to pay to play then don’t. The real world is saturated with cliques especially in banking where you got 20 VPs reporting to a ED that have been there ages. their complaints aren’t exclusive to sororities.
As a someone from Asia, the American school “caste” seems to me really military like. Of course in my origin country, Japan, we have a school caste. But it’s not such social-death or life camp in one building. There’s more like “racial privilege” there. If you are Caucasian, or ça Asian mixed, automatically pretty or popular
I wouldn't really consider it a "caste", greek orgs are mostly just school organizations that have a big focus on the social aspect (sometimes they have a educational/service focus as well). A lot of people go through college with little interaction with greek life, just because it's not their thing and they have no desire to join.
Are you saying if you’re Caucasian or Asian mixed in Japan you’re automatically pretty or popular? Because if you were talking about America that rlly isn’t true.
@@lotustew yeah in Japan, not in the US. Not only social privileges but job wise it’s often better as well. They say there are mo racism in Japan but there clearly is
I'm glad that's there's a variety of styles and personalities, I thought they would all look like a variation of a barbie or bratz doll (because you typically see sorority girls like that in movies and tiktok)
I had been so hesitant to look into sororities because people have this notion that it's a bunch of white girls living in a house (some sororities are to be fair), but I rushed a multicultural sorority which is much smaller, much cheaper, and much more inclusive. It's still a lot of work to be in a sorority, especially one that doesn't sit pretty on money because a lot of us have to work and don't get help from our parents, but our dues are reasonable. I will say there is a lot of partying and sometimes we do disagree on certain ideas, but that's whatever group you have a lot of members in. For me it's about networking and building connections. I have older sisters that have been able to link me to connections in the workforce and professors to help me organize events. I've also been taught a lot about professionalism and leadership. At the end of the day everybody has a different experience and it can be very time consuming, but i've built friendships and sisterhood that I wouldn't have had otherwise. Its easy from the outside looking in to judge, im definitely guilty of that as well. Just trying to educate that it's not all from one perspective! There's a HUGE difference between multicultural, panhellenic and D9.
I think a lot of these comments have really skewed, misunderstandings regarding sororities. Admittedly many sororities are SUPER cult like, no doubt. But there are chill sororities where it makes you feel like home. Someone once told me to try greek life because you really do just have to "find your vibe." I'm black so I have always been EXTREMELY apprehensive. I thought there was NO place for me in a sorority until I joined and realized there's so much more. I joined a super diverse sorority where I've been able to meet girl from all walks of life. My sorority recognizes there's still work to be done in improving things long term too. But it has been nice joining a sorority where there's people that look like me and where my input matters. I did join a chill chapter, however. If you seek a toxic sorority, you'll get just that. So many people go into rush looking for the "top house" and end up being miserable because oof the toxicity. There are many sororities I stayed clear from during rush because I walked in the house and literally no one looked like me, or they had insane expectations and requirements. But mine is super chill, and the friend's I've met are lifelong. Also, not all sororities haze. Love from the Gamma Phi chapter
The party question needs to be more in detail. Being in Greek life myself most people who have never had alcohol in their life before coming to college develop a very real binge drinking problem and people don’t talk about it as often. It’s almost the more harm you do to your body the more you’re accepted which I find really strange.
This was interesting to see. It was interesting that they pick one multicultural sorority and then 2 D9 members. I often feel like those two have different experiences than predominately white orgs. They should also do one with frats and also dig into more with the Multicultural and D9 orgs. As a member of D9 org who joined after undergrad, I'll say for sure that I gaining new lessons in life, especially from a career perspective.
I was in a sorority in college, and can elaborate for some of the confused commenters. First of all, sororities have GPA requirements. They don't consider people with GPAs under whatever is their minimum for membership, and if current members drop below that number, they are put on some kind of probation until they can get it up (and are usually forced to have attend some kind of tutoring). My sorority in college had the highest average GPA on campus of at 3.7. As far as dues go, I went to a small school, so my dues were much less than sororities at big schools (like SEC schools in South). It was about $500 per semester, and I paid the dues myself using a monthly payment plan. The dues do not go towards philanthropy. Sororities do hold events to raise money for philanthropy, but the dues themselves go towards things like maintaining the house, food, events, nationals, etc. Sororities hold things like dinners to raise money for charities, and also do volunteer work. For housing, when I lived in the sorority house, it was actually cheaper for me than the on-campus housing and meal plan, even when we had a chef come in and all that, so it was a win-win. The main point of sororities is social. Many of the girls party, but not everybody. We held our own dances, and I enjoyed going to those more than going to random house parties (which I very rarely ever did, not my thing). Sororities encourage and want girls who are involved in other aspects of campus life, such as sports, clubs, newspaper, anything like that. Most sorority girls are very busy and involved. There are also opportunities to hold leadership positions, such as President, Vice President, New Member Coordinator, etc. And of course, you make connections. If you meet somebody who was in the same sorority as you later in life, it's an automatic connection because you have that in common. Unfortunately, hazing can be an issue in Greek life, but it is more common in fraternities than sororities. Organizations can get in BIG trouble if they are caught hazing, as in the chapter is shut down my the nationals. Overall, I was not the "typical" sorority girl. I was very academically motivated and just wanted to meet people and have something to do.
That black girl is GORGEOUS!!!!! Beautiful skin, hair is amazing, and just unapologetic black. I love what she said to the white girl about D&I it’s not our job to teach you about us.
Also on the DEI note- I'm not american but it seems like disability representation wouldn't be great there. I'd love to know the american perspective on whether there is ableism in sororities
I thought the AKA would talk about how their sorority is known to be mainly lightskin Black women when they talked about sororities accepting pretty girls, but she didn’t speak up about anything at all on that question.
As a current sorority girl, It was interesting to hear all of these different stories. I could relate to a ton of these stories especially the money aspect. I wish I could pay for girls dues.
There are free sororities. Those sororities are paid for by school typically small. You pay for other student organizations as well. Typically you pay but what you pay for covers a lot.
Lol gee its almost like every country in the world is different from the others. Im pretty sure you'll discover that if you look at China, Brazil, Uruguay, Polynesia, Zimbabwe etc.
@@sarahshere789 we go to school, learn and go home 😀 Basically. The social aspect of our education is very different. Some schools have some clubs or after school activities, but I feel it's quite rare. It's also very uncommon to have dorms or such. Most students live on their own or still at home with their family while studying.
@@jinna2726 that’s really interesting! Some schools in the US require first year students to live in dorms. It was okay for a year but was definitely ready to move to an apartment the next year!
@@karmicobsession1636 How come I've seen movies and tv shows (like House Bunny and Happy Death Day and Scream Queens) where the sororities throw parties?
I really love that they included multicultural and black sororities in this video. So many only use white sororities when having these discussions when there are experiences and options outside of that
It's so weird to me (and maybe that's because I'm not from America) that they already have to pay A LOT for their college education and on top of that they're paying voluntarily to be part of a sorority for "philanthropy"?
As someone in a PHC sorority at a university (not SEC) with a large focus on greek life, I agree with so much of what they are saying but they really didn't talk about how amplified all of these feelings are, especially during points like recruitment.
Can you please do a video on ex sorority girls? They can spill all the tea a lot more then current members.
Same thoughts lololol
Yes yes yess!!
They were definitely all scared to be asked about hazing lol
Exactly. These ones are too afraid to say the ugly truth because of the backlash from their sororities
@@clAssIcAllymINdless exactly because if they say stuff with letters on they can get kicked out.
As an ex sorority girl these girls are def filtering their experiences there’s so much they probably feel like they can’t say
Yeah, especially the girl in the dark green jacket. She reminds me a lot of the girls who towed the line and made the sorority horrible to be in
@@mintyhippo8125 this!!!
Especially since they are all in letters. If they say anything that isn’t representative of their chapter, they’re out. This video missed the mark sadly.
Like what?
@@mintyhippo8125 omg. im shocked, how did you get that impression?
As someone from europe, this was crazy to watch. American college culture feels like a feverdream
I’d be interested to hear about how college is like in your part of Europe
@@Unknown-us1fc They go there to learn and go home.
It’s horrible tbh. A real lack of morals in my opinion.
@@Unknown-us1fc I live in Poland and I think that the biggest diffrence between Poland and USA when it comes to being student at Univeriaty would be that still many people live with their parents. Especially if you live in bigger city and you attend at Univeristy in the same city, people stay with their parents.For exmple i live in Warsaw and if someone has moved from their hometown to warsaw then they can rent an apartament or rent ,,akademik,, which is building just for students.
Its a cult
I would like to see a similar video about fraternities but with ex members this time. And talk about elitism, hazing, pledging, party culture, secrecy, parental pressure and expectations to join a fraternity, money, alcohol and drug abuse, sexism, both physical and sexuaI harassment by other members. I was in a fraternity and sometimes really sucked. We need to touch more serious issues and have deeper conversations.
Agreed! This conversation was very surface level and missing a lot
Also nepotism. I'm guessing that hazing is a thing in frats/sororities because a lot of them have connections to some of the most powerful but corrupt people in the country, and if you are willing to keep the most despicable hazing crimes a secret, you can pretty much keep any atrocities in the government a secret too, and maybe even participate in them. Honestly, if I am a corrupt leader, I would trust someone from the same fraternity way more over stuff like political party or religion.
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Yes!!!!
I chose to not be in Greek life in college because of this. I know people who have been destroyed by it. I willingly chose to stay out of it.
I would love an anonymous version of this. Mostly because it’s concerning to me that pledging system and hazing is still a secret that sororities and fraternities keep despite instances in the past that cross the line.
At the end of the day if something is proprietary information then that's just what it is. Information is released though when things happen
It depends on the sorority of course (and because it’s secret) but in my experience, recruitment wasn’t to judge the girls on arbitrary/superficial things, it was to make sure they had things in common with the other sisters and to see how easily they could make friends and get along with everyone.
@@KCLARK98 lol hazing isn't "proprietary" information.
"Yeah I assaulted you but you can't tell anyone cause it's proprietary information"
Would be more interesting to see this done with ex-sorority girls OR even a middle ground with “Greek Life Members v. Ex-Greek Life Members”! It might have been hard for some of these girls to be transparent about their experiences since they’re all still bound to their respective organizations.
YES!!!
yesss do it
I really wanted to hear Kennedy’s take on “some sororities only take pretty people”. since she’s an AKA, they kinda pride & distinguish themselves by being the “pretty girls” of the Divine 9 sororities. being pretty has become a large part of their group identity, they even have chants affirming it.
Yes, we pride ourselves on being the "pretty girls" but that is not solely based on looks. Being a "pretty girl" is about your attitude and the way you present yourself and treat others. Everyone is beautiful but not everyone has a beautiful heart. No one is a part of this sorority because someone thought "oh, they're pretty" but because they resemble the internal qualities of the sorority.
@@semiyaamor7680 thanks so much for your response! I honestly admire the diligence of AKAs, y’all really are queens. but just like the other girls were saying they knew of sorority members who care about looks I’d suspect there’s AKA’s who probably believe girls have to be physically pretty enough to join. her response could’ve opened a larger dialogue
Yes, my same feelings exactly! Love my sister greeks I also can't ignore that historically they are the only D9org that has/ had colorism associated with membership recruitment. Hearing that someone hasn't felt pretty enough or thin enough to be apart of a paid social club is heartbreaking.
They used to do a thing called brown paper bag test where a woman couldn’t be darker than that to join the sorority. I never wanted to be AKA because of that history. However i still respect their foundation and being the first officially recognized black sorority and help pave the way for many black sorority women.
It relates to being prissy, classy, and ladylike when they say "pretty girls" rather than physical appearances. Pretty in your actions and the way you carry yourself, like how people say "beautiful soul". But in every sorority, there will be bias based on appearances but that's not what AKA's motto refers to.
I've never gotten the appeal of joining a sorority, but to each their own.
It comes with a lot of networking and social advantages. I’m a historically black sorority and a lot of my sisters joined due to legacy
@@zelinematthews It seems to me it’s more of a hivemind situation, which, in other words, a cult.
@@aus-li idk what movies you've been watching but it's not at all like that lmao.
@@becca-tg5pn It is though? Unless you can elaborate?
I’ve seen many documentaries, and have did personal research on this topic, I personally wouldn’t join any organizations like these, or any in general.
agreed and still don’t want to join one after watching this
“It’s harder to stay relevant if you don’t party” relevant to WHAT? 😭 girl I am there for the education
LMAOOO same
Imo college is 50% the education and 50% the networking. Technically don't need to party to network, but the job fairs, clubs, group projects, etc. are great for your career. I have definitely reached out to college friends before to get interviews or just to learn more about the company they're at when I was thinking of switching jobs.
It's easier to make friends and connect with people in college compared to when you've started working. Mostly it takes a lot more effort and financial investment to make and maintain friends after school because schedules don't always match and people usually disperse into different places and start living their own lives.
LMAOOOO
i think it depends on the school you go to, at mine obviously networking matters but if people constantly see you out at the big parties they will become more familiar with you and they will see you more, especially at a very big school
In a sorority lol. Unfortunately most sororities don’t really care about your education as long as you aren’t failing classes. They want you to be socially popular
My mom was a delta and she wanted me to join. I had no interest in paying to be apart of a sorority, but what I will say is that they stick together. If you’re a part of the same sorority people will look out for your whether it be in social settings or career opportunities.
well now i will lie about being a part of one
Sounds like forced friendships.
@@strawbabbie there are plenty of ways of knowing if your lying so I wouldn’t recommend doing that
So like networking?
That's BLACK sororities
As someone who doesn’t live in America I always found sororities a bit creepy and cultish like a house full of white blondes who do fun things together but watching this actually made me see them with a bigger perspective
I wonder how typical of sorority sisters these women are?
"White Blondes"
Sororities are just yt women
@@aaliyaha.1285 you just saw 3 non white women on this vid.
@@rrachhelll yes three people hand picked out of millions of sorority members. The people in this video don’t represent accurate demographics of most sorority members.
You all did not dive deep enough into the issues with these questions. Ask about hazing, more about the recruitment rush process, entitlement, legacies, etc.
they attempted to cover the hazing question with the "i've been made to do things that i was uncomfortable doing" part but i think the girls were being willfully ignorant about it... "i was uncomfortable being social" or "i was uncomfortable having to enforce dues as the vice president" were such cop out answers
@@asyuruu I agree. Definitely willfully ignorant
@@asyuruu Most definitely. But I'm pretty sure they could get themselves or their whole chapter into major trouble if they had spoken openly about any hazing.
It would've been interesting to hear from some graduates or ex-sorority members, though.
@@asyuruu I think it's because there are many sororities that have done away with hazing. Definitely not in the deep south, but my chapter in CA does not haze.
@@CandesamoTheGreat omg YES they should get ex-sorority women
I think it's funny how that one girl said not going to parties makes you irrelevant and a ghost. Like the point of college is to get an education and be successful in a career, not have a bunch of people knowing your name.
very shallow
She was saying for in a sorority. And she is the vice president who deals with new people directly all the time in her chapter so she most likely understands how social connections in sororities work better than you
Sororities are a lot of times how rich people network, so the parties and socializing helps you get access to important people. I personally never saw them as appealing and thankfully neither of my schools had strong Greek life. My university had no Greek life but the sports teams all had their own townhouses and basically had raging parties. My graduate school had a few frats and sororities but they weren't a big part of the overall campus culture, just sort of their own entities. Just always seemed expensive and like you HAD to follow certain rules and I personally just wanted to enjoy school and not have expectations of my free time and who I spent time with.
Unfortunately, to get your foot in the door in a lot of spaces you need to know people. What you've learned can only get you so far 🙃
I disagree. I'm not from America. But the friends you make in university, became your connections in the real world. It's not always about who's the smartest, but the people who know other people.
did anyone else pick up on how the girls weren't being 100% truthful with their answers? no way that girl thinks that we'll believe that she's paying $1000 per semester for philanthropy when there are plenty of free philanthropy organizations out there 🙄
Yeah I raised my eyebrow when she said that. You can do philanthropy on your own for free. Why pay to do it? Honestly I feel like people join these organizations just to belong somewhere
@@Hknasw Human beings are hard wired to feel like they belong.
A lot of my sorority friends actually pay this much, so this wasn’t a shocker tbh
It’s probably a for profit sorority.
i’ve never heard of a philanthropy organization where you don’t pay money
Gonna need the fraternity side now please
nooooooo please noooooooooooooooo. That would be the most cringe episode ever
@@tnago916 couldn't be anymore cringy than this.
@@tnago916 You mean more cringe than what we have just witnessed in the video like some girls saying that they only accept pretty girls or the requirement to join a sorority is they also have to party, like that's whole another level of cringe. Also you realize these girls are clearly filtering their opinions and not really being honest.
@@everythingisawesome2903 That's your opinion, like i have mine. What about it was cringe tho? These girls were actually really cool. I don't know if you're just mad I said that episode would be PEAK CRINGE but alright 💀.
@@tnago916 That person literally answered your question in the very comment you replied to asking what was cringe in the video. You're the one who seems to be worked up about someone considering sororities cringe (which a lot of people think btw because they ARE!)
Thank you for including a Divine Nine and a multicultural sorority! We are over looked and our sorority narrative is not seen
I had no clue you had to pay to be part of a sorority, that was surprising
Same!
✨American economy baby✨
Most student organizations have some sort of "dues," not just Greek organizations. Dues go toward running the chapter, paying for the events they put on, etc. A difference with Greeks is that a lot of times dues are a bit higher, and that's because they put on more social events that just cost more money to host. Things like food, drinks, decor, event spaces, etc - these things don't just materialize out of thin air :) The student organization has to pay for them with the dues they collect.
Dues can be very expensive, depending on the school. That’s part of the way I decided not to rush in college because it can really add up. I went to a college catholic school and mine even demanded for the sorority girls to live in sorority housing, hence that was also an additional fancy housing expense you had to do on top of semester dues. Feels like a trap at the end of the day and most sororities on my campus were stuck up
People glamorize them but they’re very toxic places
They should definitely talk to girls who are apart of sororities from down south, especially Bama (University of Alabama) sororities. Since they have one of the biggest rushes during the fall season,it makes me wonder what truly goes on during these times,but also they also aren't afraid to speak up about them.
I’m not American but I’ve consumed enough pop culture that it’s evident that these orgs really would differ by region. SEC Greek life seems intense.
It would be interesting but I’m scared of what they will say.
@@RoseAllDayyy Oh it's VERY serious. Some southern sororities are base off how much money your dad makes, certain cities you're from, some sororities also help you determine who you'll marry or what you're marrying into. It can get very intense. It's obvious the girls in the video are from the west because their sororities don't put as much pressure about social status and looks as southern sororities do.
I was a member of a sorority in the SEC. Recruitment was a generally terrible experience, and the sororities did feel a bit like a social caste system. I was on financial aid at a very wealthy school, and I saved up all of my money from working a retail job over the summer and breaks to pay my own dues. I made some friends in my sorority, and it gave me something to do, but I don't know that it was worth the time and money at the end of the day. I wonder now what I could have done if I had been able to save that money and use that time to explore additional educational opportunities.
It also might surprise a lot of people to learn that hazing really isn't a thing in a lot of sororities, especially national sororities. I was literally never hazed. Fraternities are a very different story, however.
@@musiclover91ful This is crazy
i’m glad they brought up the “diversity chair” for the blonde girl’s sorority. it shouldn’t always be the burden of the black woman (or person of color) to educate traumatic things that anyone can teach themselves.
Same. I cannot stand that.
I agree, but I also think having POC in positions like that has a lot of value. Sometimes there are blind spots people have simply because they aren't part of a certain background. We need to hear from people with different lived experiences than us. Maybe they could expand the diversity chair to a panel to relieve the pressure off one woman and distribute it more to several people from various backgrounds who are passionate and educated on the subject.
I wish Jubilee explained what a sorority is cos I still have absolutely no idea
Did you look it up? I'm sure there are other UA-cam videos that explain it
Literally just girls in college living in the same house and calling it a club. It's meaningless.
@@whateverwhatever4026 A lot of members don’t live in the house. And sororities foster valuable connections post-college, plus provide an easily accessible social life to accompany the academic side of college, so not exactly meaningless.
Bro… google exists. So does youtube
@@TheALfever So basically meaningless
When they say they didn’t do anything they weren’t comfortable doing, i almost don’t believe them, and I also think their perception of what’s a reasonable request might be very different from a normal persons because they have gone through it and it’s part of the culture.
I was in sorority and had never felt uncomfortable in my sorority even when I surrounded by racist people when doing community service with my sorority. The racist people were the local residents or homeless not my sorority. I have friends from other sororities that never felt uncomfortable in their sorority at all. Maybe my sister’s Asian sorority once but it was just because the community service chair signed people up to clean around the school campus.
panhellenic sororities actually have super strict hazing standards. like you can’t have new members do a scavenger hunt or grab you a fork at dinner
That's cause a lot of sororities don't haze; they are more time-consuming than anything because of meetings. We used to have chapters on Sundays, which pissed everyone off cause we wanted to be home studying.
A lot don’t actually haze. Mine never did, at least on a wide scale. When we heard about someone trying to haze we immediately dropped them. Sororities have a lot higher standards that we are held to. Probably because we gossip and would be able to keep our mouths shut to be honest 😅
They are cappin lol
ok i hope i wasn’t the only one who peeped at 14:49 grace hesitating with the “racism exists within sororities” prompt until she saw everyone move to strongly agree…baby i saw you turn to disagree lol
shes hella weird
was hoping someone commented on this
Or she was just looking over or thinking about it.
Come on, this sounds super nitpicky. Definitely seems like she moved too early before the counter was done. When she finally did, she still went in the same direction she was going to before she apologized. Some people would say anything to make someone (they don’t even know or understand) look bad.
Yeah and when she said “we have a person of color who is well educated that teaches us”. I cringed a little 😬. I don’t think it was coming from a bad place though, not at all, I just feel like she isn’t quite aware of her privilege
These women are all kind, intelligent, and caring it’s pretty impressive. I hate to be that person but if you get a bunch of frat bros to do this it won’t be anywhere near as informative and positive
@@AmiriHipHop or just realistic and honest about the state of toxic hyper masculinity in America
Why is it impressive that women are kind, intelligent, and caring? Are you saying that most women are not those things because that’s what I’m feeling from the comment… and it’s a tad offensive.
@@charlistan9510 Sputtering at strawmen that you've conjured in your own mind never looks mentally sound, hanger-on.
@@FerretCuddles cry about it
@@charlistan9510 Projection from an orbiter as reaction to being pointed out. Many such cases.
You have to PAY to be part of a sorority? I absolutely did not know that.
Yep! Some cost $500+ a MONTH
me paying $1400 👍
@@laylonieandco that includes rent and bills?
I’m only paying $160
@@saltmymanif they have a sorority house then yeah. But it’s also to cover food or decor for events and mine went on a trip every semester so it included that and also any sorority related clothing. And every sorority has a philanthropy (like a charity) so everyone is required to contribute and donate
Whoa whoa whoa
The topic of posting alcohol. The girl in the very back brought up a great point, and one that made me think about how hypocritical sororities are. It’s not that the girls aren’t drinking like the frat guys necessarily, they just can’t post it. That always rubbed me the wrong way.
sororities also can't throw parties in their houses
@@karmicobsession1636in all fairness, if I was in a sorority, I wouldn't want the possibility of a bunch of drunk, college-aged men roaming around my house.
@@kausha7135 so you'd rather have your only option be to go into a male-dominated, alcohol-dominated space that has little to no rules or direction? The houses are huge, people can stay in their rooms. Women would make their parties a safe place where they can still have fun.
@@kyliep5376 imagine if I didn't want to go to a party at all and joined a sorority for the purpose of networking and having a support group throughout college...you know...the thing they're actually advertised for.
They can drink but they can’t expect the same results as the frat guys 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️. Women & men aren’t the same/equal in everything.
if you’re not in a sorority or haven’t been in one, it’s easy to have preconceived ideas about it and frown on it. but there are a lot of positives and fun memories, it made my college years so memorable and i did meet life long friends. also people who are not greek still like to “party”, that’s a college thing not just a greek thing, and i don’t think there’s anything wrong with that if that’s what someone wants to do :)
you can definitely see the difference between "popular girl sorority sisters" and others in this video. like some of these girls are clearly more high status, with not paying dues and how they view partying and rush. It's hard because some days I feel like sororities are such a fun cool experience I wished I joined, but other times I realize how humiliating or unfair The Who greek system is. with financial status, pretty privilege and how sisters are treated by each other and the guys from frats.
nah you gotta get deep south sorority girls in here
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What’s the difference?
@@hodzal5258from what I’ve heard, they don’t do things like hazing and they don’t party as much and are more like friends
Why ?
@@wonhosthigh265 ummmm that’s literally the complete opposite. They’re wayyy worse.
i see joining a sorority/fraternity is very similar to being in a sport in college. i can only speak on cheer but i have dues to pay, mandatory team bonding, and bonding out side of practice like partying/going to bars. it’s very similar when you think about it, bc there’s also hazing involved.
Was this in the states? You're definitely expected to basically eat, sleep, and study with your team. That's how all my friends who were on sports teams lived and traveled.
@@HouseMDaddict yeah i’m talking about in the states, but it’s also the same. i think it’s just depends on the sport on how strict they are about those things.
Here’s the thing if the white woman with blonde hair got up and started teaching about how to treat black people or minorities people would scrutinize her and say why doesn’t she have someone with experience teaching them on the subject. I’m black and it feels like when you are white and especially blonde there’s no way for them to win. People keep trying to tell them they aren’t doing enough. And keep in mind she’s the only sorority pledge that actually talked about inclusion. The rest of them preached exclusion smh.
Facts lmao. Some black people actively work to make it difficult for white people to be allies. There is no perfect way to be anti racist, fully educated, an educator on diversity issues and taken seriously as a blonde, thin white woman. It will almost always come off as disingenuous bc people have their own insecurities and projections within.
Also, black people in black sororities telling non black people to justify their interest in joining at the same time have a problem with predominantly white sororities trying to include diverse people in their ranks.
Damned if you do; damned if you don’t. If I was white in 2023, I’d really stop giving a damn.
The women of color did not preach exclusion, on the contrary, they just said that there has to be a genuine and meaningful reason as to why a white individual would want to join an all black sorority. Black sororities were originally in place due to the exclusion and racism black women faced when trying to join white sororities (and that's if they were even allowed to apply to the college).
I was thinking the same thing! They singled her out for no reason. Glad someone else felt this way
I honestly agree. As a woman of color in a sorority I definitely notice a difference between having a POC Vs. Non-poc in that position and I personally prefer having a POC because they know what it’s like to live as a POC. I also agree that it shouldn’t be the burden of POC to educate white people but I just feel like generally the perspective gives you a different insight into the experience of a person of color and I also just feel more represented as a WOC myself when it is a POC in that position but 🤷🏽♀️
exactly. and it’s not like the DEI chair was forced into her position that’s the type of thing you apply for
I’m so grateful for the D9 and Latina Based representation. As a member of Latina Based, multi cultural org, we’re so over looked so I’m grateful for the representation ❤️ love from Lambda Pi Chi 🦋
should have posed a question asking if they are aware of the outside of America view on it being cult-like lol
We're all aware people view us like that. Many sorority girls viewed them as one and realized when they joined it's not that serious
there’s americans that even think that it’s cult like 😭
Who cares? At the end of the day, they are Amerian with their own culture to worry about
Who gives af what non Americans think of them
Most Americans view it as that as well
ponytail with the hoops & I are speaking the same language. the misogyny in what frat boys can post vs sorority girls is infuriating
I joined a sorority and dropped it because of how expensive it was… it was like paying rent. SEC schools are another level
As a Frenchman, most of Jubilee's recent videos feel incredibly weird. It's like the US is in its own little bubble. As for this video in particular, it seems these girls see college as everything but a place of education.
That’s why the US is filled with incompetence, because of these corrupt institutions or organizations. You have barely educated individuals gaining access into high-paying positions with little to no morals.
But then again, it’s also just stupidity on management as a whole to hire individuals with no sense of morality and common sense.
I don’t get it? This channel is based in the US. So wouldn’t most of the videos be about americans? same with french channels like jubliee
@@dailysamira I get your point. Channels from other countries may also feel odd to foreigners. However, I doubt the mentality and culture gap would be as large and disturbing as the one pictured via such a channel as Jubilee.
and also, do you talk to ur friends about education 24/7? Sororities aren’t like a club for connections for academic goals like Pre Nursing club. It’s just a friend group
@@wstrat3623 I just hope that foreigners don’t think that Jubliee’s videos represent ALL americans.
Iesha had a bar that y’all are not appreciating enough!! “A Black face in a high place doesnt equal INCLUSIVITY!! Let em know!!
i rushed at a big 12 school and transferred to a smaller college closer to my house, and the difference of how the sororities are is just massive. a lot of the “bad” sororities, the looks based, party only, and etc mostly just are at the big name state schools in the south. the sororities at my smaller state school are extremely laid back and accept members of all races and body types, which i love. not to say we don’t have one or two more so “traditional” sororities, it’s just much less frequent. it all really depends on the individual schools!
Late to the party, but I think this style of video with girls who go to southern universities would be so interesting. Such as SEC schools like Alabama, LSU, Auburn, A&M, etc. I attended UH and was in Greek life but the culture and experience there were much much different compared to my friends who went to big Greek life schools. I've heard horror stories about SEC schools, both in sororities and fraternities, and the pressure and financial aspects are truly on another level. I don't regret my time in my sorority, but the system as a whole needs a major reboot, and it's definitely not something everyone would enjoy. LICO.
I’m from the UK and at my university I was part of a cheerleading team. At my university the sport teams were very similar to Greek life in America. I can agree that finances are biggest issue. So many friends who were at sports team we were told about basic costs but not everything else. It cost so much money and it was a source of stress. I will say it was worth it though because of the social connections you make.
what uni?
is this birmingham😂😂😂
@@sneakerhead6625 I went to uni of Liverpool but Birmingham cheer team was lit!
Are intramurals as expensive as official uni sports?
Why are all of the foreigners in the comments upset? Jubilee is based out of LA.. why do you expect them to represent the world?
cool story
@@activistbook3809 you sure told them
this should be top comment
Honestly. It's weird. Always shading the US and mad we don't mind our business but then pissed when we do. It's giving obsessed.
Anything they can do to dog pile on "weird American culture." I guess it's trendy or something
Thank you so much for including Multicultural and Divine 9 greeks!
Sororities are really cult-like, if you look up what cults do and what sororities so it matches up a little too well for my liking.
How? Not all cults are bad ofc, but how is this cult like?
Have you even been in a sorority because I guess not. Not once did I feel like I was in a cult. We had sisters that were in cult like societies growing up due to parents forcing them.
@@xwrtk Did you guys get drunk a lot
@@mewesquirrel6720 Not at all especially the Mormons. We only had a few people get drunk on rare occasions. We have had members that never had alcohol before.
@@xwrtk wait you guys go to college
There is also a huge difference between sororities at small colleges vs big colleges
In theory, I would love to join an organization that is designed to unite and uplift women. But with so many underlying issues around racism, beauty standards, money, social pressures, homophobia, etc-sororities really only have negative connotations in my mind, which is sad and I honestly think has a lot of roots in the patriarchy.
When I saw the girls I knew IMMEDIATELY who the AKA was and who the Delta was. Colorist has been a problem within our own black community for centuries. Light-skinned over here, dark-skinned over there.
Are you sure it wasn’t the fact that the light skinned girl was wearing a jacket with the letters AKA.?.?.?
@@terminatorx6230 Nah, that just confirmed it later, lol
All I got from this is being in a sorority doesn’t put you above anyone else in the real world.
I wish they could have talked about hazing mostly with sorority’s who have brother fraternity. What these men do to women is very scary.
they would never answer truthfully though
What is hazing?
Damn,lol! The "I don't worry about money" question brought out the panhandler in them girls,lol!....All the sudden ALL? their sororities are broke???
I moved to America in college and was instantly confused by Greek life. I don’t know why it’s a thing and anyone who tried to explain it to me couldn’t actually explain it. In the end, I likened it to Hogwarts houses except you replace magic with just normal social status. I guess I’m just non-American but that seems very counterproductive to holistic human progress
Americans don't know either. Literally only the people in this group "understand" it and even they're not sure what they're doing....
Why are so many foreigners so butt hurt abt sororities? If you don’t know what it is then look it up. They’re not meaningless and actually provide a lot of opportunities after college. *This is copypasted from another comment, ppl like you need to see it
@@luvnor lol facts. It's not that big of a deal.
@@luvnor I just feel like it emphasizes on maintaining societal class systems which is honestly what progressive societies should veer away from.
@@luvnor they are a shitty version of Studentenverbindungen, like most American things
I wish everyone wore their sororities just to see everyone’s perspective, one thing I do like to see is the diverse group of girls because for me personally I only know about D9
Having black frats and white frats in the same room for this would be hilarious
I get why people join sororities but I could never justify it especially with how expensive they are.
I love and respect the vibe of each and every one of these girls
I wish they would have asked Racism AND Colorism exists in sororities. Because within some frats and sororities colorism exists, many foundations of some black frats and sororities have beginnings of building their chapters based in colorism or techniques used to "filter" out what they would like their chapter to look like such as the brown paper bag test.
For example, AKAs are known within the black community as the "pretty girls," and their beginnings consisted of lighter, fair skinned, or biracial black women. And Deltas' beginnings consisted of the dark skin girls. It's just something I think we sometimes overlook because these social communities shape our way of thinking and how we view the world. And colorism is still a huge issue within the black community.
It’s impossible to count the number of times the word “like” was said. 🤦♀️
So sorry for what Grace went through, hope she stays strong and is indeed surrounded with supportive people!
I’m so glad that multicultural/cultural based and D9 orgs being represented in this video
on the alcohol point - sorrorities are huge organizations with an insane amount of power and influence. they do have the influence to actively work to dismantle mysognism in our society. by upholding this double standard, they are failing the women who are in these groups.
0:23 I pay to have friends - disagree.
1:59 I love to party - strongly disagree!! being around alcohol and drunk people makes me uncomfortable
3:22 some sororities only take pretty people - slightly agree
6:59 I've been made to do things I'm uncomfortable with while in a sorority - strongly disagree
10:40 I don't worry about money - disagree. More about the future than the present though
14:48 racism exists within sororities - strongly agree
21:06 I regret joining a sorority - strongly disagree
I’m in a sorority and them talking about how expensive the social aspect is and WOW YES it causes a barrier having to work and not be able to go out like the other girls
I don't party and I know a ton of people on my campus. Its because I'm a social person in school, am an active member of multiple clubs, and like to put myself out there. College can be very different than how they portrayed it. It often seems like social sorority girls put themselves in a bubble and forget that this is a whole different world of being a college student that they are missing.
i don’t get why they pretend like they aren’t paying for networking and then act like they don’t want to be there. If you don’t want to pay to play then don’t. The real world is saturated with cliques especially in banking where you got 20 VPs reporting to a ED that have been there ages. their complaints aren’t exclusive to sororities.
All these girls were so sweet and talked openly
I had my stereotypes about sorority girls, these girls have proved me wrong. They are all so wonderful
As a someone from Asia, the American school “caste” seems to me really military like. Of course in my origin country, Japan, we have a school caste. But it’s not such social-death or life camp in one building. There’s more like “racial privilege” there. If you are Caucasian, or ça Asian mixed, automatically pretty or popular
I wouldn't really consider it a "caste", greek orgs are mostly just school organizations that have a big focus on the social aspect (sometimes they have a educational/service focus as well). A lot of people go through college with little interaction with greek life, just because it's not their thing and they have no desire to join.
Are you saying if you’re Caucasian or Asian mixed in Japan you’re automatically pretty or popular? Because if you were talking about America that rlly isn’t true.
@@candywings6902 You meant who are in Greek letter fraternity/sorority house?
@@lotustew yeah in Japan, not in the US. Not only social privileges but job wise it’s often better as well. They say there are mo racism in Japan but there clearly is
Iesha is so beautiful and seems like a cool person! I love the style too.
I have fallen in love
im so happy a divine 9 sorority was included
I'm glad that's there's a variety of styles and personalities, I thought they would all look like a variation of a barbie or bratz doll (because you typically see sorority girls like that in movies and tiktok)
Can we please go back to the black set/decor, it gives more depth and dimension to the segment
Nah. I prefer it this way. It's more appealing.
I had been so hesitant to look into sororities because people have this notion that it's a bunch of white girls living in a house (some sororities are to be fair), but I rushed a multicultural sorority which is much smaller, much cheaper, and much more inclusive. It's still a lot of work to be in a sorority, especially one that doesn't sit pretty on money because a lot of us have to work and don't get help from our parents, but our dues are reasonable. I will say there is a lot of partying and sometimes we do disagree on certain ideas, but that's whatever group you have a lot of members in. For me it's about networking and building connections. I have older sisters that have been able to link me to connections in the workforce and professors to help me organize events. I've also been taught a lot about professionalism and leadership. At the end of the day everybody has a different experience and it can be very time consuming, but i've built friendships and sisterhood that I wouldn't have had otherwise. Its easy from the outside looking in to judge, im definitely guilty of that as well. Just trying to educate that it's not all from one perspective! There's a HUGE difference between multicultural, panhellenic and D9.
Iesha: "A black face in a high place"
Barsssss
I think a lot of these comments have really skewed, misunderstandings regarding sororities. Admittedly many sororities are SUPER cult like, no doubt. But there are chill sororities where it makes you feel like home. Someone once told me to try greek life because you really do just have to "find your vibe." I'm black so I have always been EXTREMELY apprehensive. I thought there was NO place for me in a sorority until I joined and realized there's so much more. I joined a super diverse sorority where I've been able to meet girl from all walks of life. My sorority recognizes there's still work to be done in improving things long term too. But it has been nice joining a sorority where there's people that look like me and where my input matters. I did join a chill chapter, however. If you seek a toxic sorority, you'll get just that. So many people go into rush looking for the "top house" and end up being miserable because oof the toxicity. There are many sororities I stayed clear from during rush because I walked in the house and literally no one looked like me, or they had insane expectations and requirements. But mine is super chill, and the friend's I've met are lifelong. Also, not all sororities haze. Love from the Gamma Phi chapter
Wow this was so wholesome and encouraging to see women in my age group communicating like this. Thank you so much for doing this. This gives me hope
The party question needs to be more in detail. Being in Greek life myself most people who have never had alcohol in their life before coming to college develop a very real binge drinking problem and people don’t talk about it as often. It’s almost the more harm you do to your body the more you’re accepted which I find really strange.
This was interesting to see. It was interesting that they pick one multicultural sorority and then 2 D9 members. I often feel like those two have different experiences than predominately white orgs. They should also do one with frats and also dig into more with the Multicultural and D9 orgs. As a member of D9 org who joined after undergrad, I'll say for sure that I gaining new lessons in life, especially from a career perspective.
I was in a sorority in college, and can elaborate for some of the confused commenters. First of all, sororities have GPA requirements. They don't consider people with GPAs under whatever is their minimum for membership, and if current members drop below that number, they are put on some kind of probation until they can get it up (and are usually forced to have attend some kind of tutoring). My sorority in college had the highest average GPA on campus of at 3.7. As far as dues go, I went to a small school, so my dues were much less than sororities at big schools (like SEC schools in South). It was about $500 per semester, and I paid the dues myself using a monthly payment plan. The dues do not go towards philanthropy. Sororities do hold events to raise money for philanthropy, but the dues themselves go towards things like maintaining the house, food, events, nationals, etc. Sororities hold things like dinners to raise money for charities, and also do volunteer work. For housing, when I lived in the sorority house, it was actually cheaper for me than the on-campus housing and meal plan, even when we had a chef come in and all that, so it was a win-win. The main point of sororities is social. Many of the girls party, but not everybody. We held our own dances, and I enjoyed going to those more than going to random house parties (which I very rarely ever did, not my thing). Sororities encourage and want girls who are involved in other aspects of campus life, such as sports, clubs, newspaper, anything like that. Most sorority girls are very busy and involved. There are also opportunities to hold leadership positions, such as President, Vice President, New Member Coordinator, etc. And of course, you make connections. If you meet somebody who was in the same sorority as you later in life, it's an automatic connection because you have that in common. Unfortunately, hazing can be an issue in Greek life, but it is more common in fraternities than sororities. Organizations can get in BIG trouble if they are caught hazing, as in the chapter is shut down my the nationals. Overall, I was not the "typical" sorority girl. I was very academically motivated and just wanted to meet people and have something to do.
You can tell it’s a difference in experiences between CPH or traditional White sororities vs Multicultural/Cultural based sororities
Hopefully they’ll do a frat bro version soon!
Q4: Grace; if you felt uncomfortable last year, as you were in the sorority then too, shouldn't you have answered agree?
That black girl is GORGEOUS!!!!! Beautiful skin, hair is amazing, and just unapologetic black. I love what she said to the white girl about D&I it’s not our job to teach you about us.
Iesha's complexion is flawless.
Also on the DEI note- I'm not american but it seems like disability representation wouldn't be great there. I'd love to know the american perspective on whether there is ableism in sororities
oh 100% there is. ableism is so common here, not blatant disrespect but it’s like nobody cares to consider them ://
I thought the AKA would talk about how their sorority is known to be mainly lightskin Black women when they talked about sororities accepting pretty girls, but she didn’t speak up about anything at all on that question.
no bc the girl w the afro is SUCH a queen ❤
Frat boys next! That would get messy real quick
i forget that some people's parents help them pay for college lmao
As a current sorority girl, It was interesting to hear all of these different stories. I could relate to a ton of these stories especially the money aspect. I wish I could pay for girls dues.
I’m proud to be in my sorority. Best decision I have ever made. These girlies seem so sweet🥰
You are proud to be in a cult?
For some reason I never realized you had to pay to be in a sorority but totally makes sense.
There are free sororities. Those sororities are paid for by school typically small. You pay for other student organizations as well. Typically you pay but what you pay for covers a lot.
This was so interesting to watch! I am from Finland (Northern Europe) and this college/university culture from the US is so different from ours!
Lol gee its almost like every country in the world is different from the others. Im pretty sure you'll discover that if you look at China, Brazil, Uruguay, Polynesia, Zimbabwe etc.
Hey! Just curious, what’s it kinda like in Europe?
@@sarahshere789 we go to school, learn and go home 😀 Basically. The social aspect of our education is very different. Some schools have some clubs or after school activities, but I feel it's quite rare. It's also very uncommon to have dorms or such. Most students live on their own or still at home with their family while studying.
@@sarahshere789 also I have to mention, most of our education is "free" (due to taxes). It somewhat depends on what you study though.
@@jinna2726 that’s really interesting! Some schools in the US require first year students to live in dorms. It was okay for a year but was definitely ready to move to an apartment the next year!
Went to a party school and never attended a sorority party. Stuck to the books. I was the minority there. No regrets. It's a personal choice.
Sororities don't throw parties. Frats do. yes it's sexist
@@karmicobsession1636 How come I've seen movies and tv shows (like House Bunny and Happy Death Day and Scream Queens) where the sororities throw parties?
I never went to college, I wish I could’ve gone and joined a sorority but being mentally ill has made it so I can’t
I surprised so many europeans are saying this is a crazy idea because I've heard in the Netherlands, the frat's hazing culture is insane
May be just Amsterdam?
Fraternities & sororities definitely exist in the Netherlands! But I don’t think it exists in any other European country
@@kaylarozz It exists in Germany as well. But it is seen as something outdated and conservative
It doesn’t exist in Germany.. or it’s very different than frats in the us not really comparable
@@fz1512 There are "Verbindungen" in Germany. Most of them are "Burschenschaften" which is a fraternity...
Okay Soror!!!! We love to see it!! Loved everything you said 🤍❤️🔺
I really love that they included multicultural and black sororities in this video. So many only use white sororities when having these discussions when there are experiences and options outside of that
Why didn’t the AKA speak up on the “pretty people” question lol
It's so weird to me (and maybe that's because I'm not from America) that they already have to pay A LOT for their college education and on top of that they're paying voluntarily to be part of a sorority for "philanthropy"?
As someone in a PHC sorority at a university (not SEC) with a large focus on greek life, I agree with so much of what they are saying but they really didn't talk about how amplified all of these feelings are, especially during points like recruitment.
10:10 it’s not the alcohol and the drgs making them do those things… if someone is a pred@tor they’re a pred@tor drunk and sober.
Facts
That black girl with the white and black outfit is stunning 😍