I finished painting mine about a month ago and today I got the Feldherr foam storage and its so nice. Can't wait for Mage of the Mirror and Rise of the Dread Moon...hoping some Mythic content will make its way into the latter as I missed out on the crowdfunding campaign.
Glad to see old school heroquest folks are enjoying the new edition. This looks like an absolutely great addition. Sadly, I can't justify the space or price.
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 remake of space crusade would be awesome. But HQ only needed to remove the words chaos and fimirs. For space crusade thats really gonna be pushing it what needs to be removed. I also dont think games workshop wants to sell that particular game to hasbro. Edit: because look how they reacted to starcraft, they were mad 😂
@@Emperor_Atlantis Space Marines need a complete new look, shouldn't be that hard though, there are lots of other games/franchises with soldiers in space (Space Marines), but they usualy aren't named like that. Only GW Space Marines look like Knights, with Bolters that fire something like 30mm low explosive rounds. 😅 Chaos Space Marines & Genestealers need to be changed too, or replaced, again, not that hard, same with the Eldars. Everything else, I think, could stay the same, more or less. Pictures on cards, no big problem. After the success of HQR they might try more old stuff, like "Battle Masters", though that one might be a bit too much... 😅
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 now your spitting fire my dude. Battlemasters was awesome. I have/had the dutch version called "Ridderstrijd" what litterly translates to "Knightsbattle". Awesome game. Love that. Really a old school kind of wargame
I ordered nightwars from goblin gaming. sadly found out that everyone that has order from them will likely not get it. Even the local warhammer shop manager doesn't think they will get it. But we live in hope.
I'm hearing this from a few people (with different stores). Sounds like, just as with the base game, GW haven't been able to provide enough to their stockists to cover their commitments. At the moment my order with Element Games is ongoing, but I keep waiting for an email!
The fog room had a problem that I've fixed. For one the fog room generates monsters from the fog that are illusions. Basically the rules say you have to roll a combat dice to determine it you actually hit a monster or instead it becomes fog and disappears. I changed the rule to use the hero's Mind Points in which they roll a number of red dice equal to their Mind Points and if a 6 is rolled the illusion fails and the hero rolls for the attack or they successfully cast their spell upon the monster. If the roll fails the hero's attack or spell automatically fails. The monster then is moved to an adjacent space to where it was last.
always glad to hear your views on this stuff, thanks for the video! to me, without "Into the Northlands" or else an extensive list of homebrew clarifications, this is not a very fun quest pack to play. it's way too long and hard for kids to play, even if they mastered the previous expansions. it just wasn't given adequate playtesting back in '92, and a lot of good ideas were left on the cutting room floor (thanks lucapaschi for the notes!). but modern day Zargons, with a little help, can turn it into something playable
There are some great miniatures in this expansion. Just be aware, if you intend to use them with an old edition of HeroQuest, they are scaled up and will not fit inside the spaces of the original game board.
Still have to get this one. The Elf Quest expansion is on the way along with an all new expansion. I hope we also get new versions of "Wizards of Morcar/Zargon" and "Ogre Horde" expansions which never made it to the US back in the day.
Yeah I have already covered Mage of the Mirror on the channel and I’ve see the art for Rise of the Dread Moon but I’m waiting for some idea of contents before making a video about it.
They really gave value for money with this expansion. My 7 year old just loves the frozen horror, yeti and warbears. He has been playing with them since I opened the box. I may never get them back lol.
The same thing happens in my house with my five-year-old. He claims ownership of all the coolest miniatures! Totally agree with the value on this one. You really are getting a lot for your money.
I remember running this when it first came out under MB years ago. It was BRUTAL!!! Grinded through heroes that had played through every other quest and expansion (except Mage in the Mirror) and look forward to seeing what they changed, if anything.
They didn't really change anything, and it's still incredibly tough, but there is a downloadable quest called Into the Northlands which has some extra rules and items that make things a little easier.
can't wait to crack in to this box myself. Got it a few weeks ago but it looks great. Glad to see different content in terms of miniatures and enemy types
Yeah, Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord are good expansions, but by the time you get to the end of them, you really are craving some new enemies to face. This expansion really delivers on that front.
Love your videos , very professional and informative . I currently live in a part of the world with very cold winters ( minus 30 anybody ?) and amongst my circle nobody has heard of Heroquest ! Next trip back to UK I’ll be purchasing base game and this expansion . Great fun for my English language group.
Man, I'm pretty sure you just sold me on this. Still need to get the base game of course, but I think it'll be my next purchase. Impressed by pretty much everything shown. Even the dice are cool, and being someone who tries to paint by the book when it comes to game minis, I'm glad the artwork on the cards is vividly colored and detailed. Excellent work as always, man!
Thanks for watching. I'm glad you found the video helpful. HeroQuest really is a lot of fun, and I'm looking forward to getting deeper into this expansion to see how the campaign plays out.
Awesome addition.... And a pleasant surprise for me because I didn't had the old expansions. I also recently bought a tiny expansionj "The Rogue Heir of Elethorn" with 12 Game cards, 2 figures with a Gender Swap for the Rogue Class and I tiny Story card.
This is a really great expansion, but it can be brutal at times. The polar war bears are no joke at all. The companion app does have an option to enable Yeti hug breaks - roll a 5 or 6 on a red die while being hugged and you can break out of it, sort of like breaking spells. It’s been very helpful. Also, the app has been updated to include the Knights and Rogues now.
I didn't know they had incorporated a yeti nerf into the app. That's interesting, because that's an even more robust solution than what they provided online (which was basically just preventing Zargon from using hugs in solo adventures).
Got me one too. Now I only have to print out all the US version cards, cut them out and sleeve them. Same for the rules and hero boards, since I only have the absurd German version.
I really like how they are not just trying to cash in on the IP, but it truly seems like they want to show off how much they care by making the game a premium experience - right down from opening the box!:D
Thanks for the review. I'm planning on purchasing two copies in the future, one to keep (although I might sell most of the contents inside that aren't minis) and one to paint and sell. It looks like most of the sculpts will be fun to paint so that's a good sign.
hello friend!! One question. To the best of your understanding... i have just finished the main campaing with my fellow Quest heros... and we are ready to take on the frozen horror.. Would you recomend to start a brand new party? or is it better to take the more advance heros from the coreGame?
You are supposed to continue with the same team. The Frozen Horror ups the difficulty considerably, and a new team will almost certainly find it hard going. Also, you want to have a barbarian on your team. If you don't have a barbarian at the moment, run one through the three solo missions to get them up to speed with the rest of the group, and then go for it.
@@LordZelldePiacot Further to the reply above, there is a 'recommended order' for the quests -Main Book, Kellars Keep, Prophecy of Telor, Spirit Queens Torment, Return of the Witch Lord, then Frozen Horror (and Crypt of Perpetual Darkness after that). Even if you don't have the mythic expansions, Frozen Horror is such a difficulty spike it's worth going through both Kellars Keep and Witch Lord before doing Frozen Horror.
Thanks. Hasbro scaled up the size of the new edition, so the miniatures, tokens and overlays are all too big for an original board. I did a separate video on this issue, which you can find here: ua-cam.com/video/WWGbc_pNb5Q/v-deo.html
Great video, has me anticipating the arrival of my copy - shipping with Horrified, because of your recommendation. Incidentally, do you know, was there ever an improved model pack for Horrified? The figures look a little off the pace to me, quality-wise.
I think the miniatures for Horrified are decent enough for the type of game it is, and where it's positioned in the market. For a mass-produced game designed for the casual market at a relatively low price point, I wouldn't expect anything more. I am sure there must be a miniatures company somewhere that makes figures of classic horror monsters, though.
I’m really happy with this expansion too & the ease of availability (No sold out within the hour like GW & CC) is there any plans to do a speed-paint series on the Frozen horror set??
It's been good overall. A few minor blips, like the guardian knight. But decent overall. We've had a steady stream of expansions and hints for the future, online support, and app updates.
There are several online quests that Avalon Hill have made available: New Beginnings (replaces The Trial). Rogar's Hall (special training mission). The Forsaken Tunnels of Xor-Xel (links the core game to Kellar's Keep). Into the Northlands (prequel solo quest for The Frozen Horror).
You know what would be awesome? Advertising in the next set for a "Space Crusade / Star Quest" remake, that alone might be like birthday & christmas at once!
Ha. The HeroQuest campaign was never open to Europe, and at the moment, Hasbro's current crowdfunding campaign for HeroScape isn't available in Europe either (although apparently it will be eventually). That kind of trend doesn't bode well for Space Crusade, where the strongest market is in Europe. We live in hope, though!
@@GoldenSunAlex Which is a possibility, yes, but giving minis a new look, rewriting the story, changing pictures in the books & on cards, is still less work than doing a completely new game from scratch! Look at HQR, they used the same rules, same quests, same game board, the same tiles & tokens, just a bit bigger. People like it, it's a success. And people would like a SCR. I think this is a risk, but only a small risk, because people are willing to pay for oldschool games done with modern quality.
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 HQR just had to change the Fimir and rename the Chaos Warrior though. SCR would require a complete rework, and basically all lore rewritten, and the models would have to look completely different. Nothing would look the same as GWs legal team is very efficient. Any new game would bare zero resemblance to the original and would have to be remade from the ground up - essentially making it a brand new game. Unlike HQ, which is 'generic fantasy', SQ was very firmly set in 40K.
My original HeroQuest is a jewel in my collection. I spent months sourcing, restoring and painting everything and I would never abandon it. Hasbro's edition is the version I use to play now, as I'm not so precious about it, it uses the US rules, and Avalon Hill keep making new content for it. However, my original HeroQuest isn't just a collector's piece; it's now part of Advanced Heroquest. You will see a lot of HeroQuest components in my recent Advanced Heroquest playthrough on the channel, for example.
Is it me or do the sculpts look a little better detail wise than the original HQ box? Either that or they are just designing more mindfully around the end quality of the models. Slightly generic mercs aside. They look much better to me.
Apparently they have changed their plastic, so it's not quite so bendy and will hold better detail. However, I don't know if that happened before or after they produced The Frozen Horror. The miniatures do seem better, but I can't say I have noticed any real difference in the plastic, so it may down to better sculpts, a better understanding of the production of these plastics, or maybe even the colour of the plastic making it easier to see the details. Regardless, I'm happy!
I am a bit taken aback by the power of these new creatures. I understand its to challenge fully kitted out heroes, but dang, the warbears are more powerful than a bloodthirster? Maybe put an upgraded Gargoyle card in one of the expansions?
Sometimes it walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, but it isn't a duck. Despite all appearances, there are no bloodthirsters in HeroQuest. I can imagine a trained polar war bear would be more threatening. They probably gain on speed what they might lose in resilience. But yes, absolutely everything in this expansion woke up on the wrong side of the bed and wants to wreck your day.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Lol fair enough. I guess I am not as generous to Frozen Horror as I am to the other Hero Quest expansions since it lacks the nostagia power, never having been part of my childhood. I just bought the Stls of the various minis, so at some point I will build this expansion too. The Warbears look suitably fearsome!
It reminds me of Bart at the top of the stairs that turn into a deadly slide into the vampire's den, saying, "I know I shouldn't, but when am I going to be here again?"
I recently managed to get the original Heroquest and all 4 original expansions that came out here in the UK, as I much prefer the miniatures in the original version. Probably nostalgia, but also Fimir are better than giant fish people! 😂 I wasn’t planning on getting the new version, but seeing this and the Mage of the Mirror expansions, which never released over here, I think I may have to. Ideally I’d just like to get these expansions, but as you showed in a prior video the new tiles don’t work on the old board, so I’d have to get the new base game anyway to use these. Plus I don’t think these new miniatures would work with the old ones, or maybe they would, these monsters would just look even bigger and more intimidating in comparison!
Well done on getting all the 90s expansions. You may know that I much prefer the aesthetics of the originals, and I am also not a fan of the fish men. The fimirs were always some of my favourites from the original!
There are also 4 brand new expansions (3 in the mythic edition which will likely be released to the public at some point) as well as the leaked but not announced yet 'Knight Quest Pack', in the same vein as MotM and TFH. It's really worth getting.
As someone who got an ‘89 set to rekindle my nostalgia and then bought the new expansions for it - make your own tiles set or board out of foam core - doesn’t take too long and scale it to 1” and you are good to go without needing the new core set.
I grew up with the original. It molded me, shaped me... but I would never play it over this one. The doors are a major reason. Man, those original doors just get worn out. No avoiding it. And the models are so brittle at this point, I couldn't handle the thought of people handling the models. But this new one, no chance of that. Plus, all the furniture looks so. Damn. Good. All painted up and indestructible. I could see still purchasing the old edition for collecting and displaying. But for playing? Gotta go with the new one.
You kinda touched on it. The mercenary minis are dull and honestly too meny. I enjoyed painting the horror and the barbarian is one of my favorite of the set. But the mercs. Very very bla
I don't know about too many. With four heroes who might all hire mercs, plus mercs showing up in some missions as enemies, it feels like it's not necessarily an excessive amount. I don't think the sculpts are as good as the monster ones, though.
I think the mercs are fine. Better than the original ones we got in Wizards of Morcar and Heroquest: Advanced Quest (which were super-fiddly). And I think we needed as many as we did, so heroes can hire plenty and also have them as enemies.
I got mind in the last week of September, but this is the first opportunity I've had to get the video finished and uploaded. It's been a crazy few weeks for me.
I think it's interesting that you prefer the female Barbarian sculpt in this box. I think it's a good mini, but I prefer the female sculpt included with the Mythic tier backers for the following reason: while the new sculpt does have a lot of unique parts of it, it also seems like she's from a completely different tribe. Honestly, it seems weird that the male Barbarian is from a Northern region, dressed as he is. The mythic tier sculpt looks like she's from the same group as the male Barbarian, but the new sculpt doesn't have much in common at all. I'm also glad you pointed out the bit about the multiple attacks. I hadn't seen that in this rule book, though I had noticed the repeat of the rule in the cards with the Rogue Heir, so good to know it showed up here. Honestly, an official FAQ or collection of rules would be good for this game. Those two things said, I really appreciate the Heroquest content you've been doing. It's good to see people having and keeping interest in this new release of the game.
The barbarian in the Frozen Horror is a homage to the original Frozen Horror barbarian, so although I don't particularly have any nostalgia for this expansion, I do appreciate that homage. Also, as I said, this feels like a different character with her own personality. The female barbarian from the campaign just seemed like the male barbarian using a TikTok filter or something. It's not a bad miniature, I just think they missed an opportunity to make something more distinct. Thanks for the kind words regarding the coverage. I love both versions of the game, although my original restored copy from '89 is now serving as expansion material for Advanced Heroquest while I play HeroQuest using the new edition!
I must admit, I like the monster sculpts of this box compared to the originals. The originals were too cartoonish on the Polar Bears, Yetis, and Frozen Horror. Sort of like the opposite of what I think of the new set compared to the old.
@@jameswhitehouse5706 Yeah, and the HeroQuest Advanced Quest core set. As I recall they also used the ogres from Horde in the elf quest pack. I’m not sure why they used different sculptors for the other enemies. Cheaper, I guess.
The minis are certainly better than the original ones. I've always had my doubts that the originals were done by GW and that MB had done them on their own. This expac does make Heroquest a slightly better game with more difficulty and better choices. I wish they had done a desert themed set similar to this back in the day. Maybe that's something for the future?
I think by the time you get to this point, if you are using the same heroes, you really need that jump up in difficulty. Also, it's so nice to go into a dungeon and see some new enemies. That was something I think the game really needs by the time you have made it through Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord. I like that this expansion has enough tiles to change the appearance of the board quite a bit (it's a shame they are double-sided though, as it limits which rooms you can put in your homebrew dungeons). A desert theme would definitely be good. Maybe something they could introduce with a new hero class.
It's not THE selling point, but it's definitely A selling point. It's an excellent expansion, and having the female barbarian is a nice addition. It's no more nonsense for them to include a female barbarian here than it is for them to include the male elf in Mage of the Mirror. There will be people who want to be able to choose between a male and female version (my 12 year old daughter is very pleased there is a female barbarian), but also, every new hero like the Rogue Heir comes with a male and female version. During the HeroQuest crowdfunding campaign one of the incentives to back was a set of alt-gender heroes for the core game. Those minis aren't available at retail, so these expansions are currently the only way to get alt versions of those heroes.
I love how it includes all the models and isn't $200. Heroquest retail is the best thing that has come along for decades.
Yeah. It's pretty amazing.
I finished painting mine about a month ago and today I got the Feldherr foam storage and its so nice. Can't wait for Mage of the Mirror and Rise of the Dread Moon...hoping some Mythic content will make its way into the latter as I missed out on the crowdfunding campaign.
Glad to see old school heroquest folks are enjoying the new edition. This looks like an absolutely great addition. Sadly, I can't justify the space or price.
As an oldschool european player I am glad I get to play this set.
I realy hope they do the same with "Space Crusade / Star Quest", THAT would be awesome
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 remake of space crusade would be awesome. But HQ only needed to remove the words chaos and fimirs. For space crusade thats really gonna be pushing it what needs to be removed. I also dont think games workshop wants to sell that particular game to hasbro.
Edit: because look how they reacted to starcraft, they were mad 😂
@@Emperor_Atlantis Space Marines need a complete new look, shouldn't be that hard though, there are lots of other games/franchises with soldiers in space (Space Marines), but they usualy aren't named like that.
Only GW Space Marines look like Knights, with Bolters that fire something like 30mm low explosive rounds. 😅
Chaos Space Marines & Genestealers need to be changed too, or replaced, again, not that hard, same with the Eldars.
Everything else, I think, could stay the same, more or less. Pictures on cards, no big problem.
After the success of HQR they might try more old stuff, like "Battle Masters", though that one might be a bit too much... 😅
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 now your spitting fire my dude. Battlemasters was awesome. I have/had the dutch version called "Ridderstrijd" what litterly translates to "Knightsbattle". Awesome game. Love that. Really a old school kind of wargame
Looks fantastic, may have to dig into my pockets for this expansion. Loved the little dig at GW. I feel the same about cursed city.
I do have a copy of Nightwars coming for Cursed City, but honestly, this expansion puts what GW is offering to shame.
I ordered nightwars from goblin gaming. sadly found out that everyone that has order from them will likely not get it. Even the local warhammer shop manager doesn't think they will get it. But we live in hope.
I'm hearing this from a few people (with different stores). Sounds like, just as with the base game, GW haven't been able to provide enough to their stockists to cover their commitments. At the moment my order with Element Games is ongoing, but I keep waiting for an email!
The fog room had a problem that I've fixed. For one the fog room generates monsters from the fog that are illusions. Basically the rules say you have to roll a combat dice to determine it you actually hit a monster or instead it becomes fog and disappears. I changed the rule to use the hero's Mind Points in which they roll a number of red dice equal to their Mind Points and if a 6 is rolled the illusion fails and the hero rolls for the attack or they successfully cast their spell upon the monster. If the roll fails the hero's attack or spell automatically fails. The monster then is moved to an adjacent space to where it was last.
always glad to hear your views on this stuff, thanks for the video! to me, without "Into the Northlands" or else an extensive list of homebrew clarifications, this is not a very fun quest pack to play. it's way too long and hard for kids to play, even if they mastered the previous expansions. it just wasn't given adequate playtesting back in '92, and a lot of good ideas were left on the cutting room floor (thanks lucapaschi for the notes!). but modern day Zargons, with a little help, can turn it into something playable
I will have to see what I think about the difficulty myself once I'm deep into the campaign.
I haven't bought the new heroquest but am tempted to get this expansion just for the miniatures!!
There are some great miniatures in this expansion. Just be aware, if you intend to use them with an old edition of HeroQuest, they are scaled up and will not fit inside the spaces of the original game board.
Still have to get this one. The Elf Quest expansion is on the way along with an all new expansion. I hope we also get new versions of "Wizards of Morcar/Zargon" and "Ogre Horde" expansions which never made it to the US back in the day.
Yeah I have already covered Mage of the Mirror on the channel and I’ve see the art for Rise of the Dread Moon but I’m waiting for some idea of contents before making a video about it.
They really gave value for money with this expansion.
My 7 year old just loves the frozen horror, yeti and warbears. He has been playing with them since I opened the box. I may never get them back lol.
The same thing happens in my house with my five-year-old. He claims ownership of all the coolest miniatures!
Totally agree with the value on this one. You really are getting a lot for your money.
I remember running this when it first came out under MB years ago. It was BRUTAL!!! Grinded through heroes that had played through every other quest and expansion (except Mage in the Mirror) and look forward to seeing what they changed, if anything.
They didn't really change anything, and it's still incredibly tough, but there is a downloadable quest called Into the Northlands which has some extra rules and items that make things a little easier.
can't wait to crack in to this box myself. Got it a few weeks ago but it looks great. Glad to see different content in terms of miniatures and enemy types
Yeah, Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord are good expansions, but by the time you get to the end of them, you really are craving some new enemies to face. This expansion really delivers on that front.
Love your videos , very professional and informative . I currently live in a part of the world with very cold winters ( minus 30 anybody ?) and amongst my circle nobody has heard of Heroquest ! Next trip back to UK I’ll be purchasing base game and this expansion . Great fun for my English language group.
Thanks for the kind words. HeroQuest is a blast, so I hope you and your group have a lot of fun with it.
Excellent review, I've already purchased but getting through lots of hidden move games at the moment. Looking forward to playing this!
Thanks for watching. This is a really good expansion, I hope you enjoy it.
Man, I'm pretty sure you just sold me on this. Still need to get the base game of course, but I think it'll be my next purchase. Impressed by pretty much everything shown. Even the dice are cool, and being someone who tries to paint by the book when it comes to game minis, I'm glad the artwork on the cards is vividly colored and detailed. Excellent work as always, man!
Thanks for watching. I'm glad you found the video helpful. HeroQuest really is a lot of fun, and I'm looking forward to getting deeper into this expansion to see how the campaign plays out.
I got it some months ago and if you have at least 3 players I can tell you by experience that Heroquest will be an amazing game to play.
@@Retrofun69 Thanks for your comment! I'm definitely going to order it, as soon as my bank account recovers from the 3 I just ordered last week. Haha.
The kids and I are looking forward to this. Thanks.
I am sure you will have loads of fun with it.
Awesome addition.... And a pleasant surprise for me because I didn't had the old expansions. I also recently bought a tiny expansionj "The Rogue Heir of Elethorn" with 12 Game cards, 2 figures with a Gender Swap for the Rogue Class and I tiny Story card.
I preordered the Rogue Heir but mine appears to be lost at sea, so he hasn't arrived yet.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring hopefully you'll get them soon and review them. And maybe do a little Playthrough with the new miniatures!!! 🤗
Damn looks nice, might get it. Not much time with a small baby, but looking fwd to playing with him in the future!
It's a great expansion.
This is a really great expansion, but it can be brutal at times. The polar war bears are no joke at all.
The companion app does have an option to enable Yeti hug breaks - roll a 5 or 6 on a red die while being hugged and you can break out of it, sort of like breaking spells. It’s been very helpful.
Also, the app has been updated to include the Knights and Rogues now.
I didn't know they had incorporated a yeti nerf into the app. That's interesting, because that's an even more robust solution than what they provided online (which was basically just preventing Zargon from using hugs in solo adventures).
Got mine today 👍👍👍 the frozen horror sculpt is very very impressive with it's details
It's really nice. It has a good weight to it as well.
Got me one too. Now I only have to print out all the US version cards, cut them out and sleeve them. Same for the rules and hero boards, since I only have the absurd German version.
I really like how they are not just trying to cash in on the IP, but it truly seems like they want to show off how much they care by making the game a premium experience - right down from opening the box!:D
It really feels like a nicely produced and generous product.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Totally!
Thanks for the review. I'm planning on purchasing two copies in the future, one to keep (although I might sell most of the contents inside that aren't minis) and one to paint and sell. It looks like most of the sculpts will be fun to paint so that's a good sign.
You should have a blast painting that Frozen Horror.
Great unboxing. I’m waiting for mine to come from Hasbro pulse hopefully by next week. It would be great if you get to demonstrate a play through
That's definitely my plan as soon as I can get set up for a playthrough.
Wonderous review, thank you from the States; ready for "The Mage of the Mirror"?
Thanks. I’m very excited for Mage of the Mirror but I have plenty to keep me busy until then.
hello friend!! One question. To the best of your understanding... i have just finished the main campaing with my fellow Quest heros... and we are ready to take on the frozen horror.. Would you recomend to start a brand new party? or is it better to take the more advance heros from the coreGame?
You are supposed to continue with the same team. The Frozen Horror ups the difficulty considerably, and a new team will almost certainly find it hard going. Also, you want to have a barbarian on your team. If you don't have a barbarian at the moment, run one through the three solo missions to get them up to speed with the rest of the group, and then go for it.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Thanks so much! Im always looking forward to your reviews Great channel on UA-cam and IG aswell.
@@LordZelldePiacot Further to the reply above, there is a 'recommended order' for the quests -Main Book, Kellars Keep, Prophecy of Telor, Spirit Queens Torment, Return of the Witch Lord, then Frozen Horror (and Crypt of Perpetual Darkness after that).
Even if you don't have the mythic expansions, Frozen Horror is such a difficulty spike it's worth going through both Kellars Keep and Witch Lord before doing Frozen Horror.
I really laughed hard here 🤣🤣, "…an expansion that contains miniatures…" oh yeah, pun intended ! 👌🤘
Nice review! But it's still not very clear to me if I can use the original HeroQuest with this expansion given the size difference
Thanks. Hasbro scaled up the size of the new edition, so the miniatures, tokens and overlays are all too big for an original board. I did a separate video on this issue, which you can find here: ua-cam.com/video/WWGbc_pNb5Q/v-deo.html
Great video, has me anticipating the arrival of my copy - shipping with Horrified, because of your recommendation. Incidentally, do you know, was there ever an improved model pack for Horrified? The figures look a little off the pace to me, quality-wise.
I think the miniatures for Horrified are decent enough for the type of game it is, and where it's positioned in the market. For a mass-produced game designed for the casual market at a relatively low price point, I wouldn't expect anything more. I am sure there must be a miniatures company somewhere that makes figures of classic horror monsters, though.
I’m really happy with this expansion too & the ease of availability (No sold out within the hour like GW & CC) is there any plans to do a speed-paint series on the Frozen horror set??
I won't be speedpainting HeroQuest. I do plan to do regular painting on this stuff, but I have a backlog of other things to get through first.
I would love to see a solo playthrough.
It's on my list of things to do, for sure.
The support for heroquest has been solid. and its a great game to start dungeon crawlersm
It's been good overall. A few minor blips, like the guardian knight. But decent overall. We've had a steady stream of expansions and hints for the future, online support, and app updates.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Exactly. its not perfect... but its consistant and that feels good to me as a consumer and player.
That online quest, "into the Northlands" says Online Quest 2. Does that mean there is an online quest 1 somewhere I don't know about?
There are several online quests that Avalon Hill have made available:
New Beginnings (replaces The Trial).
Rogar's Hall (special training mission).
The Forsaken Tunnels of Xor-Xel (links the core game to Kellar's Keep).
Into the Northlands (prequel solo quest for The Frozen Horror).
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Wow thank you! That is very exciting!
You know what would be awesome?
Advertising in the next set for a "Space Crusade / Star Quest" remake, that alone might be like birthday & christmas at once!
Ha. The HeroQuest campaign was never open to Europe, and at the moment, Hasbro's current crowdfunding campaign for HeroScape isn't available in Europe either (although apparently it will be eventually). That kind of trend doesn't bode well for Space Crusade, where the strongest market is in Europe. We live in hope, though!
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Well, they gave both games a 2nd chance, so, maybe... 🤗
Space Crusade will likely never get a remake - it's taken SO much from GW, a remake would basically be a completely new game.
@@GoldenSunAlex Which is a possibility, yes, but giving minis a new look, rewriting the story, changing pictures in the books & on cards, is still less work than doing a completely new game from scratch!
Look at HQR, they used the same rules, same quests, same game board, the same tiles & tokens, just a bit bigger.
People like it, it's a success. And people would like a SCR. I think this is a risk, but only a small risk, because people are willing to pay for oldschool games done with modern quality.
@@eldritchmorgasm4018 HQR just had to change the Fimir and rename the Chaos Warrior though. SCR would require a complete rework, and basically all lore rewritten, and the models would have to look completely different.
Nothing would look the same as GWs legal team is very efficient.
Any new game would bare zero resemblance to the original and would have to be remade from the ground up - essentially making it a brand new game.
Unlike HQ, which is 'generic fantasy', SQ was very firmly set in 40K.
Have you abandoned the original Heroquest now, or do you swap between the two?
My original HeroQuest is a jewel in my collection. I spent months sourcing, restoring and painting everything and I would never abandon it. Hasbro's edition is the version I use to play now, as I'm not so precious about it, it uses the US rules, and Avalon Hill keep making new content for it. However, my original HeroQuest isn't just a collector's piece; it's now part of Advanced Heroquest. You will see a lot of HeroQuest components in my recent Advanced Heroquest playthrough on the channel, for example.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Nice to know. I prefer the original version, especially the miniatures.
Hot mine a couple of days ago, still painting so not looked at the rules yet.
Is it me or do the sculpts look a little better detail wise than the original HQ box? Either that or they are just designing more mindfully around the end quality of the models. Slightly generic mercs aside. They look much better to me.
Apparently they have changed their plastic, so it's not quite so bendy and will hold better detail. However, I don't know if that happened before or after they produced The Frozen Horror. The miniatures do seem better, but I can't say I have noticed any real difference in the plastic, so it may down to better sculpts, a better understanding of the production of these plastics, or maybe even the colour of the plastic making it easier to see the details. Regardless, I'm happy!
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I'd love to paint that Frozen Horror, great sculpt! They did the right thing making him super size I think.
Yeah, it's really cool to have a massive threat looming over you.
Looks really cool. Still not a game I’m going to get in to myself but it continues to look good quality and I really like the theme.
The quality for the price point is very good, I think.
I am a bit taken aback by the power of these new creatures. I understand its to challenge fully kitted out heroes, but dang, the warbears are more powerful than a bloodthirster? Maybe put an upgraded Gargoyle card in one of the expansions?
Sometimes it walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, but it isn't a duck. Despite all appearances, there are no bloodthirsters in HeroQuest. I can imagine a trained polar war bear would be more threatening. They probably gain on speed what they might lose in resilience. But yes, absolutely everything in this expansion woke up on the wrong side of the bed and wants to wreck your day.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Lol fair enough. I guess I am not as generous to Frozen Horror as I am to the other Hero Quest expansions since it lacks the nostagia power, never having been part of my childhood. I just bought the Stls of the various minis, so at some point I will build this expansion too. The Warbears look suitably fearsome!
Yeah, this is my first time playing Frozen Horror. It's definitely a step up in terms of challenge! Even the gremlins are no joke.
Great review, thanks!
Thanks. Glad you liked it.
I’m really tempted to get Heroquest now that I’ve got the Speedpaints mega set big boxes of minis don’t scare me anymore!
Speedpaints can really help to make a dent in a big pile of miniatures like HeroQuest.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring will be sure to take some inspiration from your cursed city tutorials!
Thanks for watching the Cursed City videos. I hope they prove helpful.
Oh no! I hit the slide trap... Weeeeeeeeeee!!
It reminds me of Bart at the top of the stairs that turn into a deadly slide into the vampire's den, saying, "I know I shouldn't, but when am I going to be here again?"
Worth the wait, but finally got mine. Wow you're right, that's a chunk of plastic!
The Horror lives up to its name. It's a great miniature.
I recently managed to get the original Heroquest and all 4 original expansions that came out here in the UK, as I much prefer the miniatures in the original version. Probably nostalgia, but also Fimir are better than giant fish people! 😂
I wasn’t planning on getting the new version, but seeing this and the Mage of the Mirror expansions, which never released over here, I think I may have to. Ideally I’d just like to get these expansions, but as you showed in a prior video the new tiles don’t work on the old board, so I’d have to get the new base game anyway to use these. Plus I don’t think these new miniatures would work with the old ones, or maybe they would, these monsters would just look even bigger and more intimidating in comparison!
Well done on getting all the 90s expansions. You may know that I much prefer the aesthetics of the originals, and I am also not a fan of the fish men. The fimirs were always some of my favourites from the original!
There are also 4 brand new expansions (3 in the mythic edition which will likely be released to the public at some point) as well as the leaked but not announced yet 'Knight Quest Pack', in the same vein as MotM and TFH.
It's really worth getting.
As someone who got an ‘89 set to rekindle my nostalgia and then bought the new expansions for it - make your own tiles set or board out of foam core - doesn’t take too long and scale it to 1” and you are good to go without needing the new core set.
I grew up with the original. It molded me, shaped me... but I would never play it over this one. The doors are a major reason. Man, those original doors just get worn out. No avoiding it. And the models are so brittle at this point, I couldn't handle the thought of people handling the models. But this new one, no chance of that. Plus, all the furniture looks so. Damn. Good. All painted up and indestructible. I could see still purchasing the old edition for collecting and displaying. But for playing? Gotta go with the new one.
This is pretty cool nice unboxing sir
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it, and you get bonus points for the puns.
You kinda touched on it. The mercenary minis are dull and honestly too meny. I enjoyed painting the horror and the barbarian is one of my favorite of the set. But the mercs. Very very bla
I don't know about too many. With four heroes who might all hire mercs, plus mercs showing up in some missions as enemies, it feels like it's not necessarily an excessive amount. I don't think the sculpts are as good as the monster ones, though.
I think the mercs are fine. Better than the original ones we got in Wizards of Morcar and Heroquest: Advanced Quest (which were super-fiddly).
And I think we needed as many as we did, so heroes can hire plenty and also have them as enemies.
I had mine for a few weeks now and I have not opened it yet...
I got mind in the last week of September, but this is the first opportunity I've had to get the video finished and uploaded. It's been a crazy few weeks for me.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I need to find myself a company in my little corner of Scotland, my family refuses to play :D
@@BearXXII They are missing out! At least there's the app if you get really pushed for people to play with.
I think it's interesting that you prefer the female Barbarian sculpt in this box. I think it's a good mini, but I prefer the female sculpt included with the Mythic tier backers for the following reason: while the new sculpt does have a lot of unique parts of it, it also seems like she's from a completely different tribe. Honestly, it seems weird that the male Barbarian is from a Northern region, dressed as he is. The mythic tier sculpt looks like she's from the same group as the male Barbarian, but the new sculpt doesn't have much in common at all.
I'm also glad you pointed out the bit about the multiple attacks. I hadn't seen that in this rule book, though I had noticed the repeat of the rule in the cards with the Rogue Heir, so good to know it showed up here. Honestly, an official FAQ or collection of rules would be good for this game.
Those two things said, I really appreciate the Heroquest content you've been doing. It's good to see people having and keeping interest in this new release of the game.
The barbarian in the Frozen Horror is a homage to the original Frozen Horror barbarian, so although I don't particularly have any nostalgia for this expansion, I do appreciate that homage. Also, as I said, this feels like a different character with her own personality. The female barbarian from the campaign just seemed like the male barbarian using a TikTok filter or something. It's not a bad miniature, I just think they missed an opportunity to make something more distinct.
Thanks for the kind words regarding the coverage. I love both versions of the game, although my original restored copy from '89 is now serving as expansion material for Advanced Heroquest while I play HeroQuest using the new edition!
I must admit, I like the monster sculpts of this box compared to the originals. The originals were too cartoonish on the Polar Bears, Yetis, and Frozen Horror. Sort of like the opposite of what I think of the new set compared to the old.
I think Hasbro did a great job with these monsters. They're really good.
The original Heroquest sculpts for the base game and expansions were by GW Citadel i think whereas the 2 US expansions had different sculptors
@@jameswhitehouse5706 Citadel also did the miniatures for the henchmen in the Frozen Horror.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yes you are right I’d forgotten that. They used the same henchman sculpts from Wizards of Morcar
@@jameswhitehouse5706 Yeah, and the HeroQuest Advanced Quest core set. As I recall they also used the ogres from Horde in the elf quest pack. I’m not sure why they used different sculptors for the other enemies. Cheaper, I guess.
The minis are certainly better than the original ones. I've always had my doubts that the originals were done by GW and that MB had done them on their own.
This expac does make Heroquest a slightly better game with more difficulty and better choices. I wish they had done a desert themed set similar to this back in the day. Maybe that's something for the future?
I think by the time you get to this point, if you are using the same heroes, you really need that jump up in difficulty. Also, it's so nice to go into a dungeon and see some new enemies. That was something I think the game really needs by the time you have made it through Kellar's Keep and Return of the Witch Lord.
I like that this expansion has enough tiles to change the appearance of the board quite a bit (it's a shame they are double-sided though, as it limits which rooms you can put in your homebrew dungeons). A desert theme would definitely be good. Maybe something they could introduce with a new hero class.
Whoo!
I dislike the mercenaries design, I did prefer the old one
The original mercs were very cool. None of them beat the Advanced Heroquest henchmen, though!
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Selling point is the female version of the barbarian? Okaaaaay. People focus too much on that non sense.
It's not THE selling point, but it's definitely A selling point. It's an excellent expansion, and having the female barbarian is a nice addition. It's no more nonsense for them to include a female barbarian here than it is for them to include the male elf in Mage of the Mirror. There will be people who want to be able to choose between a male and female version (my 12 year old daughter is very pleased there is a female barbarian), but also, every new hero like the Rogue Heir comes with a male and female version. During the HeroQuest crowdfunding campaign one of the incentives to back was a set of alt-gender heroes for the core game. Those minis aren't available at retail, so these expansions are currently the only way to get alt versions of those heroes.